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Anonymous No.716369009 >>716369048 >>716369117 >>716369127 >>716369485 >>716369697 >>716370519 >>716370576 >>716370657 >>716371709 >>716371793 >>716371839 >>716372337 >>716372561 >>716373019 >>716373082 >>716373170 >>716375023 >>716379601 >>716379845 >>716380116 >>716381575 >>716383857 >>716384726
Low Software Attachment Rate
The PS5 is approaching 100m units sold, yet no one buys games for it. Why?
Technically speaking there exist a ton of sold Playstations that have never started a video game.
Anonymous No.716369048 >>716369117 >>716369402 >>716372760
>>716369009 (OP)
There seems to be a slight discrepancy on that list.
Anonymous No.716369117 >>716369292
>>716369009 (OP)
>Technically speaking there exist a ton of sold Playstations that have never started a video game
We weren't joking when we said that a lot of consoles get scalped to China to serve as gacha machines.

>>716369048
Nice PC numbers.
Anonymous No.716369127
>>716369009 (OP)
quality is king
nintendo isn't having this problem
Anonymous No.716369292 >>716369536 >>716371563 >>716376271
>>716369117
>Nice PC numbers.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_games#cite_note-17
>"This is a list of video games for the PlayStation 5 video game console that have sold or shipped at least one million copies. "
It doesn't say:
>"This is a list of video games for the PlayStation 5 video game console and the number of sales each game has achieved on said console. "
Anonymous No.716369323
Fucking baffling that the only game over 5m is black Spiderman, which presumably was bundled.
Anonymous No.716369389 >>716369482
Wiki isnt a reliable source
Anonymous No.716369398
I mostly blame timed exclusives. There's no point in buying Stellar Blade on PS5 when the definitive edition is coming when the game reaches PC. If Elden Ring was and remained exclusive to the PS5 you could have added another 0 to the back of it's 'Copies sold'.
Anonymous No.716369402 >>716369536
>>716369048
Are you dumb?
Anonymous No.716369482 >>716369537
>>716369389
Guess what those little numbers in the squared brackets mean?
Anonymous No.716369485
>>716369009 (OP)
>sea of thieves is one of the best selling PS5 games
Anonymous No.716369536 >>716376271
>>716369402
See >>716369292
This is a list of games that are on the PS5 and how well they sold. Not a list of how well games have sold exclusively on PS5.
Anonymous No.716369537 >>716369627
>>716369482
Telling someone to guess something isn't a question and doesn't need a question mark
Anonymous No.716369627
>>716369537
True. I fucked up. Goes to show the importance of punctuation, huh?
Anonymous No.716369697 >>716369796
>>716369009 (OP)

Square Enix is the only company that has two entries on that list. No wonder Sony keeps paying them for exclusivity.
Anonymous No.716369796
>>716369697
What. Insomniac Games has 2 entries, EA Canada and EA Bucharest (lol) has 2 entries. Fuck Xbox Game Studio has 2 entries as a publisher and Sony Interactive have 5.
Anonymous No.716369867 >>716370198 >>716371376
it still weirds me out that XVI sold better than Rebirth
Anonymous No.716370198 >>716370443 >>716370557 >>716373401 >>716379501
>>716369867
I mostly blame Remake for being a huge let-down and not an actual remake. You can fool normalfags' nostalgia by slapping "REMAKE" on the cover of your game, but even the most braindead hyper-normie won't fall for the same shit twice in a row.
Should have just made a FF7 remake 1:1 with a new coat of paint.
Anonymous No.716370443 >>716370557 >>716373401
>>716370198

I think rebirth dug it's own grave. The moment it got out how far off the rails it was going (with the multiple worlds/dimension, shitting on Sephiroth as a villain, time jannies and so on) compared to the original story most people I know completely lost interest. It's weird that every one of FF13's unwanted bastard-sequels has outsold Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.
Anonymous No.716370519
>>716369009 (OP)
The PS5 is just a more expensive PS4.
Anonymous No.716370557 >>716373401
>>716370198
>>716370443
Yeah I think it's understated just how much a lot of people got mad that the FF7 remake isn't actually a remake and is a Days of Future Past-esque time travel/alternate dimension kind of deal
Anonymous No.716370576 >>716370809 >>716370834 >>716371410
>>716369009 (OP)
This thread is shit.
Where is EA Sports FC? Madden? College Football? Call of Duty?
Anonymous No.716370657 >>716370757
>>716369009 (OP)
Publishers don't like to give sale numbers.
Anonymous No.716370757
>>716370657
Sure they do. The sales numbers just have to be good.
Anonymous No.716370809 >>716370975
>>716370576
>Where is EA Sports FC? Madden? College Football?
In the trash where they belong.
>Call of Duty?
Pretty sure COD mostly sells on PC these days.
Anonymous No.716370834
>>716370576
EA Sports FC is on the list. The others just aren't as popular as they used to be. Everyone plays F2P Warzone now.
Anonymous No.716370975 >>716371286
>>716370809
>Pretty sure COD mostly sells on PC these days
DELUSIONAL
Anonymous No.716371138 >>716371250 >>716371362
I think it's an age thing.
>Nintendo has the built-in audience who will literally, LITERALLY, buy whatever they shit out and can essentially do no wrong to these people
>Xbox is dead, but at least they know it, and are trying to pivot into just being a publisher with multiplat consoles/portable PCs
>PC is practically the only "traditional" gaming device thriving thanks to FOTM, Fortnite and other garbage
>Smartphones are the new beating heart of gaming thanks to insanely low development costs, incredibly profits and being the only device that successfully pandered to zoomers
Playstation is just Xbox without the realization that it's a walking corpse.
Anonymous No.716371250 >>716371357
>>716371138
Delusional PC tranny
Anonymous No.716371286 >>716371493
>>716370975
Am I? I wrote "pretty sure", not "completely sure" mostly because I'm not 100%, but I thought FPS tended to do better on the device that allowed you to actually aim.
Anonymous No.716371357 >>716371449 >>716371473
>>716371250
>Revenue
>doesn't even list PC
Imagine being a Snoy, unironically, in 2025. That's a sad existence right there.
Anonymous No.716371362 >>716371531
>>716371138
>Nintendo has the built-in audience who will literally, LITERALLY, buy whatever they shit out
How did that work for the WiiU?

>Smartphones are the new beating heart of gaming
There's no way you wrote that with a straight face. Nice bait, 8/10.
Anonymous No.716371376
>>716369867
You don't sell more than a couple million without the normalfag audience, and the normalfags don't even know what Rebirth is. They got suckered into Remake and thought that was the entirety of FF7.
Anonymous No.716371410
>>716370576
i think it's only games that have some sort of confirmation
sportslop tend to not present sales-numebrs as their gacha is what makes the real dolla
Anonymous No.716371449 >>716371616 >>716371980 >>716372904 >>716389567
>>716371357
Heres your PC lil bro(most is roblox and fortnite not steam)
Anonymous No.716371473
>>716371357
A GPU that's capable of playing GTA 6 is at least $2000. Nobody is paying that much when the PS5 can play it for $500.
Sage No.716371493 >>716371708
>>716371286
>not "completely sure" mostly because I'm not 100%
Said it yourself, youre delusional
Anonymous No.716371531
>>716371362
WiiU was over a decade ago. I'm pretty sure Nintendo have beaten their cult into submission since then.
>There's no way you wrote that with a straight face.
How am I wrong?
>most profitable
>biggest audience
>most games
>lowest dev costs
>most units in circulation
>largest playerbase
And none of the above is even particularly close to the other "competitors".
Anonymous No.716371563
>>716369292
and the number cited is from an article published when they cross 1 million.
but don't try to reason with anyone it's a waste of time.
Anonymous No.716371616 >>716371707
>>716371449
>every console combined barely beats PC
>also falling further and deeper every year than PC
>based on numbers Steam does not disclose
I don't know what point you were trying to prove here, but you are a Snoy so I wasn't expecting much.
Anonymous No.716371707 >>716371795 >>716371854 >>716372807 >>716380116
>>716371616
>every pc platform falls to beat consoles despite billions of people owning a PC
You lost
Anonymous No.716371708
>>716371493
Being delusional and being incorrect is not the same. A delusional person thinks he's right with fervor no matter the evidence, a person who isn't sure is open to being corrected. Which you still haven't done by the way.
Anonymous No.716371709 >>716372469
>>716369009 (OP)
Sony loses money for every PS5 sold which means the quality to price ratio is higher. China is smart so they buy these machines to be used in other stuff like mining. Same reason why the military turned a bunch of PS3s into a supercomputer.
Anonymous No.716371793
>>716369009 (OP)
Can you even use "also on PC" as an excuse anymore when lots of third party non-exclusives sell well on Switch compared to the other consoles? Even when Sony is bending over backwards to please developers there's obviously something wrong going on with how Sony is trying to get PS5 owners to actually pay for games.
Anonymous No.716371795 >>716371915
>>716371707
>revenue
There's that word again!
Anonymous No.716371834 >>716372093
2 million for 7 remake part 2?
why hasn't takeshi kiryu just deleted final fantasy yet?
Anonymous No.716371839
>>716369009 (OP)
people who buy consoles nowadays are mostly normalfags/children and they only play f2p stuff. pc is where people actually buy games nowadays. pretty much a complete flip from years ago
Anonymous No.716371854 >>716371980
>>716371707
>2021
getting a little desperate aren't we?
Anonymous No.716371915 >>716372019
>>716371795
Revenue shows what people are spending money on
aka not on steam!
Anonymous No.716371980 >>716372019
>>716371854
>guiz trust me steam grew 1000% since 2021 even though>>716371449 shows it decreased since 2018!!!!
lol
Anonymous No.716372019 >>716372161
>>716371915
>>716371980
>one minute apart
Hmmm.
Anonymous No.716372093
>>716371834
It's weird right? To see THE standard bearer for JRPGs fail to outsell indie games must feel like a cruel twist of fate for Square Enix.
Anonymous No.716372161 >>716372453
>>716372019
Yes its called replying retard
Anonymous No.716372239
'analysts' now say forza 5 is ps5's best selling game of the year so far
Anonymous No.716372337 >>716372508
>>716369009 (OP)
Rebirth should have more sales than Spooderman 2
Anonymous No.716372453 >>716372631
>>716372161
Yeah, until you have profits or something that isn't 3+ years old perhaps you should stop doing it.
Anonymous No.716372469 >>716372671
>>716371709
Sony no longer loses money on each console sold, they stopped that with the PS4.
Anonymous No.716372508 >>716374976
>>716372337

Turns out the game has to be good to sell.
Anonymous No.716372561
>>716369009 (OP)
isn't that the whole point of consoles?
its like how gym owners brag about people who are paying a sub but never show up.
Anonymous No.716372631 >>716372794
>>716372453
Heres sony making more profit than ever lmao
Anonymous No.716372671
>>716372469
That's a great source you have there.
Anonymous No.716372760 >>716372907
>>716369048
>3.3 million
That's it? Months of shilling and that's the best it can do? Sad!
Anonymous No.716372794 >>716372904
>>716372631
>still not recent
>still no PC numbers to compare to
>still retarded
I think I might have to stop replying to you so that you don't actually kill yourself.
Anonymous No.716372807 >>716372856 >>716384889
>>716371707
>every pc platform
why do you retards always out yourselves?
Anonymous No.716372856
>>716372807
Not an argument
Anonymous No.716372904
>>716372794
>still no PC numbers to compare to
See>>716371449
Youre a poorfag platform for third worlders, never forget that
Anonymous No.716372907 >>716373005 >>716373017
>>716372760
Nah that was in may, on PC alone it's estimated to average around 3.4 million sales so the real number is probably around 5m somewhere.
Anonymous No.716373005 >>716373160
>>716372907
why would you think that they are only counting pc sales for that graphic?
Anonymous No.716373017 >>716373160
>>716372907
>real number is probably around 5m somewhere.
That's pathetic
Anonymous No.716373019 >>716374424 >>716375158 >>716389157
>>716369009 (OP)
Can't tell if everyone in this thread is an absolute braindead moron or trolling but the reason there aren't more games on that Wikipedia page is because when games sell on multiple platforms the devs don't usually come out and say "We sold x copies on PC and x copies on PS5 and x copies on Xbox S/X...".
Anonymous No.716373082 >>716373220 >>716373275 >>716376695
>>716369009 (OP)
Threads like this really expose the nintendo bias a lot on this site. They can't comprehend that people buy consoles for anything other than exclusives.
Anonymous No.716373160
>>716373005
No no, I assume the 3.3m announcement was the total back in may. Since the owner estimates (https://steamdb.info/app/1903340/charts/) are NOW around 3.4m on PC alone, which is why I assume the actual number is probably a lot higher.

>>716373017
Ehr, I don't have a horse in the race. If it made them happy, good for them, nice to have a new IP that didn't flop. If it didn't make enough cash? Oh well, sucks to be them I guess.
Anonymous No.716373170
>>716369009 (OP)
Probably sitting in store warehouses
Anonymous No.716373220
>>716373082
If you read closely it seems they can't comprehend buying a console for no video games.
Anonymous No.716373275
>>716373082
but why would you buy a console if you can play the games elsewhere?
Anonymous No.716373376 >>716373770
fake sales that only happened on paper. Sony follows the same psychology as steamcharts posting. The unit sales number must be big or else it was flop and number can't go down or oh no no it was a flop!
Anonymous No.716373401 >>716373590
>>716370557
>>716370198
>>716370443
I think a bigger issue is that it's not percieved to be complete. That people don't want to pay full price for a third of a story, and are waiting for the whole thing.
Anonymous No.716373590
>>716373401
>not percieved to be complete
It isn't complete.
>people don't want to pay full price for a third of a story
Didn't seem to stop them with Remake.
>waiting for the whole thing
People won't buy a bad game no matter how many bad games you glue together to make it.
Anonymous No.716373770
>>716373376
>fake sales
Wdym?
I'm pretty sure international conglomerates aren't legally allowed to lie to shareholders about sales.
Anonymous No.716374424 >>716389157
>>716373019
>The one post in the thread that reads like it was written by someone with at least two brain cells to rub together
>Won't see a single reply besides this one
Anonymous No.716374976
>>716372508
But Spooderman 2 COD and Fortnite arent good
Anonymous No.716375023 >>716375161
>>716369009 (OP)
This is honestly just baffling. Even if you added all those games together, the sum is only around 40M. Where are the other 60M in game sales? What are people even playing on PS5 if the console has sold 100M. At least with Nintendo the sales numbers make actual sense, like 50% of Switch 1 owners had MK8D and like 10 to 20 different games had over 10 million sales.

What on Earth are people doing with their PS5s?
Anonymous No.716375158 >>716376050
>>716373019
But they are supposed to disclose that... that is literally something meant to be presented in financial quarterly reports. Even if its a multiplat.

What games besides Spider-Man 2 has sold over 10 mill on PS5?
Anonymous No.716375161 >>716375335
>>716375023
Third party games exist autist
Anonymous No.716375335 >>716375554
>>716375161
That list is literally MOSTLY third party games and the sum is STILL only around 40M.

Unironically the single most logical explanation is that people (zoomies and gen alphas) are mostly playing Fortnite and CoD Warzone or other Free to play slop.
Anonymous No.716375554
>>716375335
No its wiki isnt constantly updated ignoramus, devs dont tell every single sale they make tard
Bloodborne is officially at 3 million sales last updated and sony leaks show its 7.5 million now but they never stated it officially
Anonymous No.716376050
>>716375158
>But they are supposed to disclose that
No they aren't, dumbass. Companies rarely ever disclose the exact number of copies of a game they sold. Even most of the numbers on the Wikipedia page are just guesses by some third party "analytics" website.
Anonymous No.716376271
>>716369292
>>716369536
How new are you? These lists are always specifically for that console's version.
Anonymous No.716376349 >>716376481 >>716388859
>stellar blade outsold astro bot
Anonymous No.716376481 >>716376524 >>716387376
>>716376349
Numbers outdated, astrobot is at 2.3 million now
Anonymous No.716376524 >>716377397 >>716387376
>>716376481
So...Stellar Blade outsold Astrobot.
Anonymous No.716376695
>>716373082
A lot of those games aren't exclusives, Monkey-sama.
Anonymous No.716377397 >>716377951 >>716379621 >>716387376
>>716376524
>2 milly is bigger than 2.3 milly
Anonymous No.716377951
>>716377397
I thought you said those numbers were outdated.
Anonymous No.716378861 >>716378936
Crazy that open world capeshit (black ver) sold that much.

Who plays this trash?
Anonymous No.716378936
>>716378861
People who aren't genetic dead end chuds
Anonymous No.716379501
>>716370198
It's kind of sad because Rebirth actually is their best ARPG styled game by like a mile. But as a big fan of the original it also kind of leaves a sour taste in my mouth and I know a bunch of people that played the first part and skipped Rebirth. My opinion of it is the same as the first part, the parts that they faithfully adapted are great and the added shit is mostly garbage.
Anonymous No.716379601
>>716369009 (OP)
They are being bought by china to scrape chips out of.
Anonymous No.716379621
>>716377397
3 million
Anonymous No.716379845
>>716369009 (OP)
if you have a favorite game that's F2P there's practically no need to ever buy new games
Anonymous No.716380116
>>716369009 (OP)
Close to 50 million people have Playstation Plus. They don't have to necessarily buy those games to play them.
>>716371707
Playstation, as an entire unit of Sony, has a 9.5% profit margin. Steam's profit margin is like 50-60%. Valve has had profit margins as high as 80%. You lost the moment you dropped out of school.
Anonymous No.716381575
>>716369009 (OP)
>approaching 100 m units
>last update was 77 million
Rumao
Anonymous No.716382754
Reminder that PlayStation has no stew.
Anonymous No.716383292
Mario Kart World alone will outsell that entire combined sales.
Anonymous No.716383857
>>716369009 (OP)
Snoys just watch Netflix on their PS5s
Anonymous No.716384726
>>716369009 (OP)
That list is extremely skewed. Why don't I see the annual 20 million call of duties and fifas?
Anonymous No.716384889 >>716390396
>>716372807
PC has multiple platforms. thanks for outing yourself as a tranny who exclusively buys on Steam
Anonymous No.716384904
Why would I buy games when I can just play Fortnite and Call of Duty and get content for free?
Anonymous No.716387376 >>716389512
>>716376481
>>716376524
>>716377397
Stellar Blade is at 4M now
Anonymous No.716388859
>>716376349
Stellar BASED
Anonymous No.716389157
>>716373019
>>716374424
Considering that is literally not what this list displays I think you might both be terminally retarded.
Anonymous No.716389512
>>716387376
It is at 3. Why would you lie about something I'm 1 google search away from debunking?
Anonymous No.716389567
>>716371449
Console games are being hard carried by Switch 1 not your movie machine
Anonymous No.716390396
>>716384889
pc is the platform you illiterate retard, what you have described are stores