Better than Ocarina. Sorry millenials.

Ocho punto ocho XD

midna sex forever

What exactly happened to Ilia that made her become so traumatized that she lost her memory?

>>716393697 (OP)
I agree
t. 33 yr old boomlennial

Well yeah its basically ocarina 2 and the last good 3d zelda

>>716393840
She got shot in the back by a bow and arrow

>>716393697 (OP)
God I miss playing this for the first time

>>716393894
Skyward Sword is overhated. It had some pretty cool dungeons

Depends on your values. In terms of presentation and setpiece gimmicks TP is arguably the peak of Zelda, and its dungeons in particular feel really good to work through in the moment. That said, it's not really a Zelda for those who want unfettered exploration, it's much better at sticking to its story beats. OoT is a game that's less focused on handcrafting moments, but in return is quite a bit more hands-off with its game design as a whole. It's a bit more jack-of-all-trades whereas TP picks a path and mostly sticks to it. OoT has something for everyone, but if you don't like what TP fixates on then you'll probably hate it.

>>716394050
Played the switch remaster. Didn't like it.

The main problem with TP is the slow start, SS has an even worse start and i seriously don't care about any of the characters

>>716394050
is there a way to play that game without wii gimmicks?

>>716395129
the switch port

>>716395157
worth the hassle of setting up CEMU?

I actually like most Zelda games. 2D, 3D, I don't care if it's Oracle of Ages, Tears of the Kingdom or MM.
Only Skyward Sword is the only one I'd never replay but other than that I replay all of them from time to time.

>>716395329
1995 here I should've added.

>>716393697 (OP)
lmao your "forgiveness" game only exists because OOT is GOAT and windwaker looks like shit

>>716393697 (OP)
It's like OoT 2.0, that's why it's my favorite of the series.

>tfw getting four friends together for FSA on dolphin

>>716394141
>That said, it's not really a Zelda for those who want unfettered exploration, it's much better at sticking to its story beats.
IMO TP has better exploration as well, with cooler content. While in OoT you might find a single room grotto, in TP there's whole cave systems or otherwise more interesting locations and puzzles. Like that one spot that takes you back to the inaccessible part of Goron mines.

>>716395971
>there's whole cave systems
what? I didn't know about this

>>716396057
Really? The one in lake hylia was so large I had to leave and get more lantern oil

>>716395971
>>716396057
"Whole cave systems" is a stretch but a definite point in TP's favor is being the only 3D Zelda with lantern caves. I wish there were whole systems instead of like 3 or 4 moderately lengthy ones because fuck yeah lantern caves. I would play a cave spelunking Zelda where you just fuck off for an hour or two doing pic related.

>>716396228
well, I last played the game in 06 when I was like 10 years old so I don't remember that part

>>716396407
Understandable. I didn't visit most places when I played it the first time.
I recently replayed it and enjoyed it so much I probably spent 10 hours just wandering and exploring the world. Even just riding Epona through the fields was comfy.

>>716396325
Protip: play without the minimap on screen. Much more immersive.

>>716393697 (OP)
How come the other games don't have something quite like this, I love this fanfare so much and how it becomes part of the Blizzeta theme as you're winning or when you're clashing swords against Ganondorf and you're winning, it's just so good. https://youtu.be/BgsVDLMksFY

>>716396325
The HD remaster screwed up the caves, you can very clearly see while inside a cave, you virtually don't need the lantern other than to burn webs

>>716393697 (OP)
I agree it was better, though, I beat it 5 times that first year after release.

>>716397087
It's a fantastic touch. I remember holding on to that sea snake boss and fucking repeatedly stabbing the eye while that glorious part plays.

>>716397208
I don't remember how many times I played through the game but I accidently deleted my save file the first time when I was very late into the game, rarely do I get so distraught over a game.

>>716396325
THE CHILDREN YEARN FOR THE MINES

If they do a port for switch 2 i might just get one.

In the meantime anybody know of any places with gamecube ROMs so i can absolutely avoid those places and maybe report them to nintendo ;)

>>716397347
I love the loop as you're overpowering Ganondorf so much, really makes you feel like you've become stronger than him

>>716397602
I think that they'll just release it on nso like wind waker which I'd personally prefer, I have the theory that implementing miiverse features in these two very old games was a pain in the ass and that they've haven't been able to come up with a replacement for the tingle bottle and stamps which is why they're some of the only games that never got a switch port.

>>716398027
Fuck the Miiverse shit, just bring back the version of these games with Hero Mode.

>>716395241
cemu is the wiiu emulator. get ryubing
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Ryujinx#Forks

>>716393697 (OP)
Its the same game

>>716398149
I'm not a fan of hero mode myself, having to stop what you're doing just to go buy a potion or something is just tedious to me, I'd rather have rarer hearts and smarter more aggressive enemies, Link always having his shield up while using lock on was a mistake, his stance is also rarely ever broken and there's usually no follow up attack when it does happen.

>>716397602
cdromance

>>716394050
It has some of the most fun gameplay in the series to me, but it's genuinely annoying how much it makes you repeat the same stuff and go back to the same places, it was so bad it convinced people that the formula was dated and needed to be completely replaced which is why we've ended up with games that have almost nothing in common with the games before them.

>>716397602
Myrient is the right answer, closest thing to vim's lair except with actual good download speeds.

>>716398342
I think the heart system is inherently broken. There's almost no point in investing in potions when item drops are as plentiful as they are, to say nothing of how much leeway you have if you ever remember that bottles exist. I'm for more aggressive enemies but no hearts and double damage has shown to me time and again that this should just be Zelda's default difficulty and not "hard mode".

>>716399090
well the thing is the combat in 3d zeldas is very simple so even if you pump up the damage, there's not many ways to make it work well. Imagine the pair of stalfos from ocarina being extremely aggressive and the both of them attacking you at once from different sides. How would you even handle it? Spam din's fire?

>>716398149
>Hero Mode
Link has to shit! Find a toilet or die!

>>716399302
That's so true and so untrue at the same time, because these games usually have very thought out combat mechanics and twilight princess has it's hidden skills, but it generally doesn't matter because just spamming b and forward solves everything

>>716399302
Movement and spacing? The lock-on system is clearly designed for one-on-one combat but Link still has a shield, pretty good maneuverability and a jump attack to quickly close in, nevermind stuff like WW's parries or TP's hidden skills. And that's just swordplay, you can also design combat around his whole arsenal, there's a lot of flexibility.

One of my favorite combat rooms in Zelda is the one in Snowpeak Ruins where you have to kill like 7 of the ice giant dudes. It completely breaks the rules of one-on-one because they throw ice spears at you every 3 seconds but a bit of good mobility will get you out of that room alive, and the ball-and-chain one shots them if you can get a hit in.

both are shit zelda games shouldn't have puzzles

>>716399847
The ball and chain was so much fun.

>>716400262
So you haven't enjoyed a single major entry since Zelda II. That's fair, but we're almost 40 years removed from those days.

Zelda has always been primarily about the dungeons and puzzles for me. The piss-easy combat was only there to give your brain a break.
But now in the new ones all the puzzles are relegated to these shitty little shrines sprinkled everywhere, and in TOTK all the puzzles in the few dungeons the game actually does have can just be circumvented by flying over everything.
I don't give a shit about exploring a gigantic empty open world. I want a linear game with a linear story that builds up in difficulty in a satisfying way. Like they fucking used to be. Is that so much to ask?

>>716400451
But muh Zelda 1! No Zelda since Zelda 1 has actually been like Zelda 1 anyways.

>>716400451
I really hope they scale the world down in the next one. It can still be big but I want a tighter experience with more focus on temples. I have a feeling we won't be getting that.

Just the fact that Midna is so much prettier, Zelda, most of the characters look better than even the new entries. Midna especially because everyone loves her giant ass

>>716400391
i enjoyed botw. if it wasn't for the shrines it would be the greatest game of all time alongside smb3 (yet to play totk)

>>716395971
>IMO TP has better exploration as well, with cooler content.
TP's map is on rail, with not really much more to it except to go to A for the quest A, then go to B for the quest B, then C for C, etc. It has precious few content to explore beyond that: Kakariko, the Cave of Ordeals, and three other cool secret heart pieces, more or less.

OoT, a game on a 4MB cartridge made in a cave with a bunch of scraps, has far more secrets, secret caves, secret interactions, interactions with NPC, and is less linear than TP. It did so 10 years earlier with a map 1/48th the size of TP.

TP has plenty of very cool, very cinematic moments. The best Zelda princess of the series. Some very good dungeons. A decent story. But there is a reason everyone says TP is linear and lack secrets.

>>716399715
>just spamming b and forward solves everything
Sure, but using other abilities is faster, effective, and most importantly more fun.

>>716401056
>has far more secrets, secret caves, secret interactions
Name a few?

>>716400795
Everything is a self-made puzzle in BotW. Sword and board feels fucking awful in that game.

>>716401056
TP only lacks secrets relative to the increased size of its world. It's not really any worse than OoT in that respect but because of the world design you don't really notice. Hell, TP has an abundance of minigames if you actually look for them.

>>716401259
>Name a few?
You can destroy wood signs with your sword, you can then repair them with the right song, the right song will make cows produce milk, masks change how NPCs react to you, there are like 5 different secrets interactions with Sheika stones, butterflies that touch your deku sticks become fairies, the absurd number of caves under many rocks or even under nothing at all, some having merchants

The secret deku theater, half of the lost woods interactions (including the target), the flying flowers from the magic beans that sometimes open new paths, half of OoT heart pieces location and/or mechanics to reach them, etc.

In OoT you can't make one step without falling on a secret. In TP you mostly follow the story on rails, with set pieces map, and if you're lucky if one (1) secret is somewhere on that map. It's not that bad, it's different.

WW managed to keep a mostly level number of secrets with OoT and MM, though on a far lesser density due to its ocean. It's a bit weird going from OoT, MM, and WW, to TP.

>>716402413
So OoT exploration is single room holes and floating flowers

>>716394161
The switch version is shittier then even most botched remasters because not only does it remove the blur filter but it completely botched the motion controls.

Unless your fat skywards sword has some of the best motion controls put into an actual AAA game.

>>716401967
Only minigames that I can personally think of are the lake hylia game, oh man there's actually a handful the more I think of it, down to that ball game haha

>>716402413
TP has its share of weird interactions - try going into the inn in Kakariko and attacking some of the furniture as a wolf, throwing the Gale Boomerang at golden bugs (and realizing how much of that quest you can break doing this), or play fetch with the dog outside of the STAR game tent in Hyrule Market. In fact, I'd say one of the best designed secrets in franchise history comes in the form of Rollgoal - you can easily beat the game without ever stumbling upon it, and yet it's a whole ass minigame that you can drop hours on.

>>716393697 (OP)
No one really disagrees with this.
TP is considered the best 3D Zelda for a reason.

>>716403280
STAR game, chicken gliding game, downstream canoeing game, Goron sumo wrestling, goat herding, the fishing hole in general, the thing in Kakariko where you shoot the pole on buildings, finding the cats in the hidden village, there's quite a few of them.

I had to go into first person the first time I saw her

>>716403284
>Rollgoal
First time I hear about this. I thought I knew the game already

>>716403580
see
>>716403280

>>716393697 (OP)
My first Zelda was 1. My second Zelda was Wind Waker. I have zero nostalgia for N64 Zelda (barely even played them) but Twilight Princess felt pretty weak on Wii. I enjoyed it a lot more on Wii U and it's definitely a great game. Didn't play Skyward Sword but Breath of the Wild is my favorite Zelda.

>still no good hack/mod to run this fucking game above 30 fps

torment.

>>716403825
If you do play skywards sword, play it on the Wii with Wii motion plus controller.

>>716404049
I would recommend not playing Skyward Sword.

>>716404049
>Wii motion plus controller
Nta, but I found one of those with a nunchuk in a baggie at Goodwill for $6. They really are way better. My original Wiimotes all make it look like I have palsy, but the motion plus is dead-on and stable as muh dick.

>>716404049
Yeah, I can't imagine playing it with the motion plus.

>>716404049
It's really quite fun, and there aren't many games where you get a similar experience. The few dueling bossfights were highlights. I remember I made short work of a pirate by bypassing his defences by performing thrusts. Iirc spider needed an upward strike and then downward stab. Cool shit. And the beetle was fun to control too.

>>716396325
TotK gave me that feeling when I explored the underground between Hyrule Castle and Lookout Landing. Just coming across that was fuckin' sweet.

>>716393697 (OP)
Should I play the HD version or dolphin GC?
When I played on my WiiU I had a fuck ton of input delay

>>716405178
Is it possible to play Wii games on WiiU?

>>716393697 (OP)
OOT and TP are both Millenial games though.

>>716405395
TP is for grandpa zoomers

>>716395850
Never happened.