>chink devs make chink game for chink audience
>chinks as usual have a melty
>only gweilos are enjoying it
lol

taiwanese gamers and hong kongers are seething again

>>716404617 (OP)
Most of those reviews are bad preformance on PC. Too bad, they never took the time to optimize it for PC, just rushed it out.

This ain't no Black Myth Wukong. We can safely ignore this game.

STOP THE COUNT

One hour is more than enough to see the bad performance.

>>716404728
Careful zhang, the CCP may catch you posting outside the great firewall.

>>716404728
You sound like a paid shill. And this ain't about taiwanese or hong kong players.
As long as it's a good game, players will give it good reviews regardless of where it's from. Black Myth Wukong proved that.

Wuchang is just garbage optimization on PC.

>>716404617 (OP)
I'll keep saying it again.
I genuinely think this is the closest China has attempted to making a piece of media like Blood Meridian. Showcasing the fall of the Ming as being akin to Hell on earth is a bold decision. Almost every npc in the game are complete jackasses who will take advantage of the chaos and have discarded their morals for whatever sliver of comfort they can get.
Of course many chinks who are already thin skinned as they are, are not ready for this kind of portrayal in their media.
Meanwhile for everyone else, I especially find it a very curious look into china's fucked up past.

They're buttmad about retarded Chinese history again.
>this game, *The Feathers of the Abyss*, which goes to great lengths to avoid addressing and whitewash the atrocities of the Qing Dynasty, shamelessly uses the abbreviation *The Late Ming Dynasty* as its title.
>When it comes to the Ming Dynasty's final years, the unanimous demand of millions of players is to kill the Qing demons! Kill them fiercely!! The more Qing demons killed, the better!!!

As the process advances and the fermentation of public opinion, an indescribable complex feeling gradually emerges, which stems from the game's choice of narrative framework for that painful history.The official background introduction of "The Feather of Yuanxu" clearly attributed the catastrophe of "human order disappeared" and "population declined" in Sichuan after 1644 to Zhang Xianzhong's Great Western regime, the remnants of the Southern Ming Dynasty, and the "yellow thieves" and other local armed forces.On this basis, elements of plague and demons are superimposed to build the game stage.As a player who has not yet fully passed the level, I know that the evaluation at this moment may not be comprehensive enough, and the subsequent plot may have a turning point or deepening, and I am willing to correct my views after passing the level.But as far as we see and feel at present, the setting of this historical background itself has formed an unavoidable core controversy point.

The great disaster in Sichuan in the late Ming and early Qing dynasties is an extremely painful and indelible collective memory of the Chinese nation.Its tragic level is shocking in the history of the world's population.The causes of this history are extremely complex. It is the result of repeated tug-of-war, melee, looting of many forces (including but not limited to Zhang Xianzhong's troops, remnants of the Ming army, local armed forces, and the Qing army that later took over Sichuan and carried out brutal suppression and massacre) and the combined effect of natural disasters and plagues.Any narrative that simply attributes the blame for such a serious disaster to one or several parties will inevitably face huge historical doubts and moral scrutiny.When constructing its worldview, this work selectively completely hides the key historical character of "Manchu Qing", making it a "undescribable" absentee in the game text and background description.

>>716405660
>Therefore, to comfort the spirits of our ancestors and write the history of the present, it should be us! Do we really need to spare the face of those barbarian remnants who caused the downfall of a nation and the extinction of a race?
>In the five-thousand-year history of Chinese civilization, the rule of the Han over the barbarians has always been the way of heaven.
>Like the Mongol Yuan and Manchu Qing dynasties, those who oppress the Han are defying the heavens and are not tolerated by heaven!
>Those barbarian remnants, to put it bluntly, have only survived thanks to the Han people's kindness and mercy, which forgave their irredeemable historical crimes. Now they dare to act so arrogantly, truly defying the natural order!

This is all from a top Chinese review with over 1000 people agreeing with it.

>>716405153
holy kino, it's about a half naked whore going around butt naked killing her fellow cannibal chinkoids, using the appeal of light hearted fan service to actually make a grimdark depiction of how sadistic and evil chinese are

>>716405706
This narrative choice made the game point the main spearhead of "Tu Chuan" to Zhang Xianzhong's uprising army (although there were indeed atrocities in the early days, the historical community had great controversy over its later behavior and death toll in Sichuan) and the Southern Ming army (there were also many outstanding generals like Li Dingguo and Liu Wenxiu who insisted on resisting the Qing Dynasty and protecting the country and safeguarding the people).This way of handling seems thin and distorted to players who know that history.

Perhaps the Chinese version of this work can be understood from a semi-abstract perspective, saying that "there is no power of the Qing Dynasty in the setting."

Although literary and artistic creation on historical themes has room for artistic processing and fiction, creators bear special responsibilities when it comes to core events of national collective traumatic memory.Avoiding key perpetrators, especially those who actually bear huge guilt in history, and focusing the main critical firepower on the internal conflicting parties, this narrative framework, whether intentionally or not, objectively constitutes a distortion of historical truth and injustice to the memory of the deceased.It weakens the deep roots of historical suffering, simplifies its complex causes, and may even inadvertently cater to some narrative tendency to try to downplay a particular historical culprit.This is not a demand for games to become a history textbook, but the expectation that when building such a heavy historical background, it can reflect basic respect and prudence for the basic historical context and collective memory of the nation.

In addition, from the perspective of players, I hope that the player group’s attitude towards adapting Chinese history from domestic and foreign works, and should not silently accept the rough or even distorted adaptations of Chinese history by foreign manufacturers, but bravely make their own voices

Those barbarian remnants, to put it bluntly, have only survived thanks to the Han people's kindness and mercy, which forgave their irredeemable historical crimes. Now they dare to act so arrogantly, truly defying the natural order!

Remember the movie “Dunhuang Heroes” from two years ago, which depicted the Tang Dynasty's “Guiyi Army” uprising and the reconquest of the Hexi Corridor? It was banned because the trailer accurately portrayed the Tibetan army's occupation of the Hexi Corridor, their forced assimilation of the Han Chinese people, and the Han Chinese military and civilians' resistance to assimilation.

The remnants of the rebel forces, who harbored deep hatred toward it, employed a set of “pretending to be loyal” rhetoric, claiming that this Tang Dynasty-themed film, which used the term “Tang people” instead of “Han people” and “the Guiyi Army returning to the Tang Dynasty” instead of “returning to the Han Dynasty,” represented “denying the existence of Han people = opposing the Han Dynasty,”

and there were indeed many gullible fools who fell for it... This reveals the cunning nature of the remnants of the rebel faction.

On the other hand, since the recent exposure of the Manchu-Qing remnant organizations colluding with the United States and “Taiwan independence” forces, with their leaders such as “Fu Cha Yan He” arrested, the “Qing Palace dramas” and “braid-wearing dramas” that had poisoned the silver screen for over two decades were halted,

even the “Qing History Revision Project,” which “Qing History experts” had painstakingly prepared for years, was directly halted, and they could no longer secure funding.

This "Yuanxu Feather", which tried hard to avoid and whitewash the atrocities of the Qing Dynasty, shamelessly regarded the game as "The Last of Ming Dynasty".

This is not to directly seize the label, so what?

Of course, the author of "Hunger: A Thousand Miles Tour of the Late Ming Dynasty" is also a "Unity Ren" deeply influenced by the idea that "national unity is greater than heaven" and "the Ming and Qing dynasties are as bad as the Ming and Qing dynasties". He always claims that his game is not for the "Emperor Han".

But a "Unity Ren" who at least admitted that "the Qing army massacred the city in the late Ming Dynasty and killed countless people" was the sequel to the "Ten Days of Yangzhou" tragedy, "Ai Hong: Diary of the City Break Ten", which set the game boss as Duoduo, Prince Yu of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and the "demon king, golden-winged great roll", and the game's group of monsters is the Manchu Eight Banners Army.

And what about "The Feather of Yuanxu"?He directly regarded the culprit of the Sichuan Massacre, the Eight Banners Army of the Qing Dynasty and the Green Camp Army of the traitor, as "undescribable forces" and avoided mentioning it!

Instead, Zhang Xianzhong's Western Uprising Army, who had born Li Dingguo and Liu Wenxiu, was regarded as the culprit of the Tuchuan Tushima?

——Just four words: [The heart can be punished]!

When it comes to the theme of the late Ming Dynasty, the unanimous demand of billions of players is to kill Qing Yao!Kill the Qing Demon hard!!The more Qing Yao kills, the better!!!

This is not because we do not admit the failure in history, but because the ultimate winner in history should be us, and the Qing Dynasty Eight Banners Robbers Group was completely destroyed!

Therefore, we should be the masters who comfort our ancestors and write the current history!Do you still need to worry about the face of the remnants of the country and the country that have destroyed the race?

>9,293 people found this review helpful

>>716405870
The game is pretty fucking metal if you consider that this is the first chinese game to actually go all in the grimdark nature of the human condition. Most chinese games that are supposed dark just has the game taking place at night, maybe zombies here in there, and spooky imagery. This game has bandits and ming deserters succumbing to primal urges and you see corpses of civilians strung up everywhere while cooking pots are filled with human meat. meanwhile lots of npcs talking about suicide like jumping into a river to preserve their dignity of being violated and eaten. Suicide by mass drowning is a pretty common thing in china in the face of imminent defeat, like what the Song imperial family did after the Song lost a naval battle against the Mongols.

>>716404617 (OP)

Why do straight men enjoy games that has them pretend they are strong women going around smashing the patriarchy with a katana?

>>716406331
all its doing is just ripping off souls tropes and transplanting them in china and retards are seeing it as some kind of controversial statement lmao, they are so mentally ill

let them seethe

>>716406485
Because most soulslikes only copy the atmosphere and quirky npcs but never actually copy the oppressive nature of the games, especially Bloodborne. Very few soulslikes dare to make the npc dialog actually be off putting and uncomfortable. Something like Gehrman's double entendre of saying you can use the plain doll as a sex toy to relieve some stress.

>>716406485
As sad as it's, it's refreshing to see a soulslike that copies the atmosphere and level design of DS1 instead of just "le prepare to die" and "this boss is so hard" memes.

>han
>ming
>qing
>tang
qrd? is it just standard tribal hatred going back thousands of year, but china?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people

how does steam count % of all players? 90% of players aren't even playing it, do stats only start counting after one or two hours?

>>716406331
I like the character design, I guess? Fantasy east asian armor looks great, especially on girls.

>>716406979
you see, the ching chong overthrew the ping pong then killed all the bing bong, but the ping pong were still alive and came back to kill the ling long

and then the Japanese raped everyone

>>716406938
The bloodborne style npcs hiding out in shacks and talking about the barbarism happening outside really adds to the atmosphere. No chinese game has ever made me genuine disgust like this. Makes killing mobs easier because they will likely rape and eat your corpse if they get their hands on you. Early on madmen even talk about chopping up a young boy and being annoyed another got away.

>>716406979
yes

To be fair a lot of the replies to that wall of text are like this calling him retarded over obsessing so much with a fantasy story about 17th Century

>>716406979
The game's setting is set in the land of Shu, which is in South Western China. This place is important because it has always been the destination to where chinese imperial families and seat of power flee to whenever an invading force comes from the north.
This game made the decision to depict Shu, the last bastion of the crumbling Ming dynasty, in the classic Dark Souls way of everything being in ruins and crazies are roaming around attacking everything in sight. You go around travelling through the crumbling palaces of previous ancient dynasties while killing supposed heroes of old and present, which again is just typical of Dark Souls, because they serve as obstacles that the player must defeat. Of course chinks view this as the game being a chink history rape simulator because you are killing off the very last vestiges of what is known to be the very last legitimate Chinese dynasty.

>>716404617 (OP)
>another flop
can't say I didn't see this coming

>>716405706
>>716405985
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>>716406291
That's a lot of words for game bad because it doesn't treat an era where the country got raped and gaped exactly the way we were taught about it

>>716407671
Isn't decadent Imperical China contrary to modern Chinese policy anyway? Seems a bit have-my-cake to me.

>tutorial says madness rises if you kill humans and lowers if you kill creatures
>kill chinks
>madness rises
??

>>716407671
Realistically, could they have set this story in literally any point in historical China with this kind of grimdark standard soulslike premise without people getting pissy about it? Or is this a particularly prickly subject? What if it had been set in, I dunno, Xi'an?

>>716406987
Kek

>>716408048
They honestly can't decide which is which but the main thing being that, the fall of the Ming caused the rise of the Qing dynasty, which was ruled by Manchus. The Manchus humiliated the conquered Han chinese, then proceeded to get humiliated themselves by all the nations of the world during the 19th century. Modern day chinks hate the Qing because it represents a huge stain in their history, and the Ming collapsing, allows the Qing to exist.
With that said, this scenario makes for a perfect Dark Souls setting because the series has always been about the slow, unimitgated collapse of once great empires and kingdoms and then the players exploring and sifting through the dregs and ruins that are left.

>>716408292
American Golem detected. Go back and report to your masters.

>>716408493
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>>716408406
Low IQ burger detected. This is not how the real world works. Go to school.

>>716408406
That makes sense. I have to wonder how the devs couldn't have seen this kind of backlash coming in the first place, though. Or indeed if it wouldn't have been more prudent/less volatile if wishy-washy to simply set it in a fantasy China setting independent from real history, not unlike what Dark Souls already does.

>>716408358
Well dark souls requires it to be bleak and grim dark so the other option is that fall of the Tang dynasty, but then you run into
>entire city eaten
>decisive Tang victory
Which would just be as worse. But then again, Wuchang already depicts everyone being cannibals out of desperation and people devolving into their most base instincts so I don't think it would change anything. Chinks would still be offended.

>>716408406
Are you perhaps projecting your insecurity about living in a nation that has almost no history?

716408580
>>>Low IQ burger detected. This is not how the real world works. Go to school.

>>716408736
What do you mean? I'm just saying the premise is legit interesting.
Give me an rpg where I can explore the ruins of the fallen Western Empire.

>>716408580
>>716408736
>no you have to respect our 10000 years of being cucked and pillaged

>>716408406
The problem is that Souls games require grand, captivating architecture and the entirety of east asia had maybe 3 buildings worth looking at before the age of discovery...

>>716408736
>4000 years of "history"
>not a single thing to show for it
>exist as the bootleg, cheap copy nation

>>716404617 (OP)
qrd on why the CCP censors would let this exist? Something about the Ming dynasty specifically?

>>716408847
>Give me an rpg where I can explore the ruins of the fallen Western Empire.
Man, you just reminded me of that shitty Ryse: Son of Rome game, which at least would've been more interesting if it had been about the actual fall of the Roman Empire instead of nonsense about being laid siege to by Boudica.

how do you perform instant heavy attack?

>>716409230
get the skill for it and have a feather stack

>>716409226
There's nothing interesting about a slow deterioration of a once functional society. If I wanted to "play" that I'd go outside and walk around.

>Find the first armor set on a corpse
>The bottoms are literally just a pair of panties
>I took panties off a corpse and can wear them
Awesome

>>716407048
Stats start counting the second you start the game I think
But I could be wrong since the stats for games that have been given away a million times have abysmal first achievement percentages

>>716409406
>beat a evil priest (male)
>get Naga the snake's outfit

>>716405153
>Almost every npc in the game are complete jackasses who will take advantage of the chaos and have discarded their morals for whatever sliver of comfort they can get.
And yet the MC can't get raped in the game if they beat her.
Sad.

>>716409626
Considering you're sick with gigaAIDS, understandable.

>>716409382
I mean it'd at least have value as trying to be historically accurate, instead of having no value and bafflingly stupid gameplay. To this day I have no idea why the fucking QTEs have a winstate even if you press the wrong button, it's bizarre.

>>716409626
There is actually an ending where the mc gets mindcrolled and becomes to doll toy for an evil sorceror.

>>716409736
I guess this is just a difference of opinion, because I think making a game fun and interesting is much more important than historical accuracy.

And you can't really depict the roman military in a position of strength as late as the fall - rome's military only got more and more feeble from 200AD onward

>>716409859
>Hypnosis sexdoll play
Kinky, just like in my doujins.

>>716409051
The ancient tang palace is basically the game's Anor Londo tbf.

>>716409626
i wouldn't fuck plague carrier either

>>716409934
>I think making a game fun and interesting is much more important than historical accuracy.
Unfortunately, Ryse had neither of those qualities, so it's kind of a moot point.

>>716408493
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>>716408736
This is why everyone laughs at you, Chang.

>>716410046
Everything is fucked and you're going to die.
Might as well get your dick wet before the end.

>>716409859
Hot

I was more than happy with the game and getting good performances (on 7800X3D and 5070ti) but yeah I'm noticing the stutters now. Game stutters more the more max fps you're getting. I was just playing at 60fps so it wasn't noticeable but yeah at native 120fps oof that's a lot of stutter.
The weird part is that not even framegen does not fix this at all. I tried with FG/MFG and even nukem's mod and optiscaler's FG and none of them can fix this, it just stutters anyway, because frameframe is just garbage in, garbage out, if it stutters at 60 it's gonna amplify them when interpolation to 120.
I hope they'll fix this because it's an excellent game so far and I kinda don't want to ruin the first playthrough with poor presentation now
Also sex with wu-chan

>>716408358
They're mad because it doesn't depict the Qing as the villains. It would be like the game being set in WWII but all the enemies are Maoist rebels and the Japanese are nowhere to be found.

>>716405153
>>716406331
an actually based chink game?
what

>>716409096
maybe the ccp censor have 0 media literacy

>>716409096
I am honestly surprised a game this shameless managed to slip through. Maybe it was too niche? Market the game with a hot girl to obscure the fact that it's actually about china's dark history?

>>716413351
Who are the villains, then?

>>716405153
The Hungry Lamb: Traveling in the Late Ming Dynasty is a VN on steam that shows how fucked late ming dynasty was. It's also really good.

why do chinks have higher standards than westoids?

The corpses you found in the game are also pretty gruesome. Like dismembered and mangled torsos on spikes, cauldrons, or just big heaps of ripped manflesh.

>>716404617 (OP)
I played the game for 30 mins yesterday to test it out after all the posts about the bad performance, and I had no problems at all other than the game looking a bit weird in some cases, a bit blurry or hazy. I guess than can be fixed by messing with the settings. I don't have the best pc out there, but I'm wondering if most people just have horrible rigs or if it is something else.

>>716414698
they don't, they'll slurp down any slop served to them so long as it has the right message

>>716409096
I thought the CCP basically denounced all of Chinas history before them, why would displaying one of its previous dynasties as bad be problematic for them?