It will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All they want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. You could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and they'd like it, because they get more time with the characters. At some point they became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.
Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is DoC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is First Soldier good? No, but it gives us more time with Sephiroth

I wish someone loved me as much as Barry loves FF.

>>716424370 (OP)
What's funny about this pasta is the people who get most mad about it also confirm it's true in their responses

>>716424370 (OP)
The execution is just so laughably bad, whoah another Soldier that has a beef with Cloud could be cool but the end result is Roche.

>>716424370 (OP)
>this game sucks, so here's a copypasta
>I love this game so much I want people to talk about it
>>716424920
>has a beef with Cloud
It's a bromance. He even rescued Cloud multiple times.

i just think its fun.

I just think it's not fun.

.nuf tsi kniht tsuj I

>>716424370 (OP)
>Is 7R good? N-
Yes, and it gives us great characters.

There's no writing shit enough to turn people away once they're obsessed enough with a cast. Sometimes I think the people writing the modern ff7 stuff are taking bets on how bad they can make it and still get retards calling it deep and genius and making multi-hour long youtube videos unlocking the TRUE meaning behind everything.

>>716424612
you and the pasta are under the pretense there is something inherently wrong with liking characters

>>716425641
There is. Only an NPC interacts with people. True chads let life happen around them.

>>716425641
Who said it's wrong to like characters?
The problem is when the love for the characters blinds you. If you like sonic the hedgehog, fine. But if you like sonic the hedgehog so much that you think all sonic the hedgehog games are great and get upset when anyone criticizes them then there's a problem.

>>716425426
>There's no writing shit enough to turn people away once they're obsessed enough with a cast.
people have been saying for years that some aspects AC, DoC and CC arent good.
What do you want them to do? ignore everything completely just because you didnt like something in AC or something?

The most neutered part of the remake

>>716425641
I love that you're going to keep trying to pretend the pasta is saying this when you and everyone else knows it isn't.
Please keep it up, because it helps prove the pastas point if you always show up with this terrible counterpoint which boils down to "and what's wrong with that???"

>>716425907
>people have been saying for years that some aspects AC, DoC and CC arent good.
And they're all wrong because AC, DoC and CC all show us more of the characters, right?

>>716425641
Congrats anon, you got HIM triggered. When he starts to samefag >>716425891
>>716426043 you know you won.

Can you really say Dirge of Cerberus is a bad game if Vincent Valentine is in it and he does things and has lines of dialogue?

>>716426154
Who said "all wrong because AC, DoC and CC all show us more of the characters"?

>>716425891
no one is being blinded by love fag. you're making shit up to win some gay argument you've formulated in your head about the way people have interacted with the remakes so far that annoys you. You're already assuming shit in your reply using sonic as some sort of vehicle to prove your imaginary homosexual topic. people like the characters, its not that deep

7? good
7R? good
CC? good
DoC? good
AC? good
BC? idk never played it

I enjoyed rebirths combat system a lot and would 100% like ff17 to use its system

>>716426167
how ironic

>>716424370 (OP)
The accuracy of this post seems to have deeply upset one person. And not for the first time.

>>716426270
>you're making shit up to win some gay argument you've formulated in your head
Now point out who said it's inherently wrong to like characters

>>716424370 (OP)
It's the best ps5 game ever released, 10/10 game

>>716426902
>best ps5 game ever

>>716426573
nobody, I extrapolated that information using context from the pasta and your homo posts to the best of my ability. If it's wrong so be it, but I am reacting to blatant ragebait whereas you have some sort of vendetta against rebirth fans

>>716424370 (OP)
This argument is as empty as just saying "FF7 is terrible, theres definitely SOMEONE out there who just likes it because it has the name FF" as an argument to make people feel embarrassed for liking FF7 or FF in general.

>>716424370 (OP)
You sort of have a point. It explaines why I don't recommend Rebirth despite having enjoyed it while playing it.

>>716427117
>nobody, I extrapolated that information
lmao
Okay, so after you had it explained to you (more than once) that nobody is saying it's inherently wrong to like characters, are you going to let go of that miraculous insight of yours or are you just going to cling to it even tighter? Surely you have a better counterargument than wilfully misinterpreting and reframing the point?

The funniest thing about v is the worst the so called game is the more attention v gives it

Death stranding 2 forgotten , rdr2 forgotten, marvel rivals forgotten

What gets threads every day ff7 remakes , the last of us part 2 , elden ring and re4 remake and more

If you hate it play the original for fucks sake

>>716427184
Not really. It's very easy to understand.
Imagine there was a great game starring Solid Snake. Then imagine there was a shit sequel starring Solid Snake, but people insisted it was good entirely on the grounds that it stars Solid Snake and we got to spend more time with him and find out more about him.

why does everyone who is angry at OP need to pretend he is saying something different in order to try refute it?

>>716427516
>Imagine there was a great game starring Solid Snake. Then imagine there was a shit sequel starring Solid Snake, but people insisted it was good entirely on the grounds that it stars Solid Snake and we got to spend more time with him and find out more about him.
Has this ever happened?

I exercised my free will, and I enjoyed Rebirth.
/v/ FF complain threads sounds like boomers on facebook.

>misses the 7R threads so much he just makes his own now

>>716427774
That's how one guy in this very thread feels about DoC

>>716427601
It's strange isn't it

>>716427308
nobody is reframing anything, there is already a consensus the writing of the game is flawed and could have been better, but the one thing it did right was characterization and interactions, which is what people have gravitated to since they liked the original cast. The problem is you people are trying to make it seem that fans are completely ignoring all the flaws solely because they only care about spending more time with the characters. People have bitched about the writing since day one, yet you take the part of the games people love and turn it around in their face making it seem its they're fault the games aren't up to the standard we expected and because they don't complain means square will keep doing the same thing and nothing will change. Why don't YOU do something about it, because so far this pasta has seemingly only been used for ragebait. Why don't you say what your end goal is with all this?

>>716427884
That's because most FF fans are certified unc status. As a younger fan, pic related made these threads make a lot more sense. Its all jaded, and probably fat, 40 year olds

>>716426043
Oh this is definitely the case, lol

>>716428447
>there is already a consensus the writing of the game is flawed and could have been better, but the one thing it did right was characterization
So OP is right, I see.
>ragebait
If it's ragebait how come you're the only person mad about it?
It seems more likely that you're just a little too overdefensive, insecure, and quick to anger. If it was ragebait maybe someone else would be mad but it's only you.

>>716424370 (OP)
Considering the arguments 7R fans are currently making in response to this I'm inclined to say you are 100% correct

>>716424370 (OP)
>>716424612
>>716428823
Obvious OP smelling his own farts

>>716424370 (OP)
Yeah and? I enjoyed ac in my edgy high school years
>BC
Never played it, I don't know if it can be emulated
>CC
Had fun
>First Soldier
Gacha shit, I just YouTube it, wish they added bc and doc already to get new models
>DoC
Guilty pleasure
>Remake
Yeah I had fun

Feels good not being a depressed faggot

>>716429050
>Yeah and?
This.
OP is correct.

>>716429118
Yeah
And?

>>716429231
And nothing. I also think OP is correct.

>>716424370 (OP)
But that happens all the time, ask Yakuza fans about Kiryu, there are a lot of fans and haters of Kiryus fate.
You get 20000 Fate spin offs/multiverse because people want more Seibah and Archa
FFX got a sequel, a lot hate it but others like it because they like Yuna, Rikku and the gameplay
13-2 was actually good

>>716424370 (OP)
You sound the obsessed one anon, you okay?

>>716424370 (OP)
>It will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what
I fucking hated Remake and somehow ended up loving Rebirth. Explain.

I spent $20 to pick up the game and could barely make it through the flashback tutorial, does the combat stop being braindead or is it just another "dude you have to play on chastity cage mode and not use x y or z and it's the best game ever"

>>716429279
Ok OP

>>716424920
Maybe I was expecting too much, but I was thinking he would be a Remake excusive new party member.

>>716429324
>13-2 was actually good
Does it take a bit to get going? I recently started it up but the intro felt like an incomprehensible mess.

>>716429543
This has to be bait

>>716424370 (OP)
I want more nuYuffie and I'm not defending it.

>>716424370 (OP)
Personally I liked what they did with Barret in the remake, I always liked his character, interested in the Wutai part since that part was always rushed in the OG

>>716429615
I think his part was just the team training in case they remade advent children

>>716427774
MGS2 and MGS4 both fit.

>>716429324
It happens all the time, it's not unique to FF7. But someone gets very upset about it being pointed out. Probably because they can't deny it. Yakuza is a good example.

>>716429638
Why? I literally didn't have to do shit besides mash the attack button for a nearly three hour sequence, and it didn't exactly make the game seem very appealing

>>716429682
>that part was always rushed in the OG
Howso?

>>716428708
care to comment on the rest of the reply or are you going to only read what confirms your biases?

What's with the people who are mad at OP despite agreeing with him?

>>716429996
What part? Where you want ME to do something about how SE writes their games? I don't know what you mean by that.
But the part where you confirm OP is correct was good. Do you want to comment on the fact that you're the only one who is angry about it and calling it ragebait?

>>716430009
To understand that, you have to realize reddit rewrote the meaning of fan over the past 15 years in the normalnigger sphere. Standards are a personal attack, you're faking being a fan to harm brand. Not even hyperbole, that's how it goes now.

I'm not prepared to call any ff7 media bad if it allows me to see the ff7 characters again

>>716424370 (OP)
This thread is a slam dunk. Nice work OP.

>>716430212
>What part?
all of it, go line by line and explain the flaw in reasoning. The issues of characters and writing is a subsect of fundamental issues with the remake trilogy as a whole but for some reason you want to zero in on it to paint fans in a bad light just to say your right. So go line by line and either confirm or deny each point

I unironically agree with all this. So much so that it feels like you copied a criticism I made of the game and the people who glorify it back when I was asking why its good in some threads.

AYO
CLOUD

>>716430796
>go line by line and either confirm or deny each point
We have already established that you are furious about OPs post, even though you yourself have proven it correct. You're assuming everyone else is as invested as you. You really sound very autistic.
I'll try to make this simple: if you're major counterpoint is that all of the compilation entries (which is what we're really talking about, but you KEEP specifying remake - telling me what you're mostly sensitive about) are flawed but you give them all a pass on the grounds that you like the characters, then you're only proving OPs point.
>yes DoC has problems, but the characters are good, so you CAN'T say it's shit!!!
You are everything OP is describing and you don't like it. No wonder it's got you so heated. It's too close to the bone.

>>716424370 (OP)
Evidently true

>>716431181
you haven't actually given a real argument yet, you just keep attacking my psyche and emotional investment as if it means anything. Based on the rest of your reply it's obvious you know my reply has merit as a bit more centrist than doubling down but you don't want to admit it so you keep trying to convince me I am in denial. Actually respond to the reply or even run it through ChatGPT if it takes too much brain energy to critically think. And yes i am only talking about the remakes, they are the most recent, when people discuss characters 90% of the time its the remakes

>>716431796
>And yes i am only talking about the remakes
I guess my analysis of you isn't all that bad after all then. I'm going to assume the "angry and autistic" parts were true too.
But okay, tell me exactly what you want me to respond to and I will do so. No I won't scroll up.

>>716427113
Rebirth deserves more sales than GoW Spooderman and Horizon Forbidden Diet

>>716432124
True. It has Tifa and Zack and Sephiroth in it, what more could you ask for

>>716431181
Why are you still speaking in third person anon

>>716424370 (OP)
>The unknown journey continues
>Turns out the unknown journey is the exact same journey as last time
What did squenix mean by this?

>>716424370 (OP)
It's okay to like things

>>716432638
How dare you

>>716432614
if they were actually brave enough to do something new I'd be impressed. but so far it's 95% the same and I've lost interest.

>>716432638
Not when you can't afford the hardware to play it.

>>716432638
You just triggered the Op and /v/

>>716424370 (OP)
It's okay to like things no matter what if a character you like shows up in it

>>716424370 (OP)
I wonder if Persona 5 is so forgotten since it got 200 spin offs yet people can't stop being obsessed over ff

>>716432638
wtf!

>>716424370 (OP)
The recent MtG set proves it too. 99% of the people buying them don't give a shit about MtG but they see Cloud on some cardboard and they gotta have it. Or they're scalpers who know others will pay anything for them. Because you are correct.

The commander from junon mogs every other single woman to come out of this franchise holy SHIT

>>716424370 (OP)
Yeah like Yakuza, trails, persona, Sonic, Pokemons, etc etc etc

>>716433004
HAHA ikr grown adults spending their hard earned money on things they like! GOTTEM

>>716433103
>persona, Pokemons
Don't the characters change for these?

>>716433226
But they don't like MtG

>>716432767
Exactly. That's my hard earned money.

>>716433226
if scalpers liked them they wouldn't be scalping them

>>716433321
what are you the MtG police? gonna ask me how many games i've played and cite me if i don't meet a monthly quota?

>>716424370 (OP)
No matter how bad or forgettable it was. It will always have been worth it for femboy cloud.

>>716424370 (OP)
I actually feel FF7 did it better than P5 with the extras. If you want more Zack or the Turks just play those games and that's it

>>716433540
I'm just saying the vast majority of FF MtG cards were bought by scalpers and non MtG fans. Why the insecurity? I'm not accusing you of anything.

>>716432638
OP BTFO'd

The guy I was talking to disappeared the same moment a bunch of pissy samefags showed up

>>716433321
They may like it now. That's the point of hooking people
See 2B in 400 different gachas

>>716433719
How? They're proving him right

>>716433226
You know what after seeing the roasties going after literally who porn indie games I can sense the op might be another of those roasties mad the the Tifa/Aerith fanservice which is why she always sound this passive/agressive

I'll like anything that gives us more time with Cloud and Sephiroth. OP btfo!

>>716433934
Believing that might make me feel better, so I will

>>716432638
Based. Fuck these "can you stop?" feminazis shaming men for having fun

Getting a little desperate now. You really don't have a better counter?

>>716433321
You don't know that.

>>716424370 (OP)
I would buy dirge remake to have more Shelke yes.
Actually they should make 7-2 with adult Marlene, Shelke and more Yuffie

>>716432767
That's what we're all saying

>>716424370 (OP)
I just boughted Kaname Date's new game because I love Kaname Date, sue me Collective Shout hag

>>716432767
>>716434404
Based

>>716434404
I buyed Rean and Ryza games.

>>716424370 (OP)
I wish you changed that to:
>Is BC good? Yes, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it regardless.

Anyways, I agree with the actual sentiment.

>>716424370 (OP)
Before Crisis is actually really good, but not many people played it, SE should just remaster it or some shit

>>716435010
And every time people reply to confirm it's true. No wonder we keep seeing it.

>>716435091
You are mentally ill OP

>>716424370 (OP)
FFVII First Crisis (FF7FC)

A prequel based around ancients and the time when Jenova came to earth for the first time. Revamped battle system (turn based), with revamped "materia" mechanics (obviously not materia but ancient using lifestream to cast spells). Completely new characters obviously, and it ends with Freezing Jenova.

FF7 Grand C-something (FF7GC)
FF7 sequel set 500 or more years in the future. New characters, new villains, new story. We only meet Vincent at some point, and old Red XIII, who dies at some point of the story of old age.

I would gladly write everything for you, Nomura. Just give me a budget and i will start working.

>>716435091
Out of all the hills to die on you pick this one. Why not advocate to shelter the homeless?

I hope and pray for the 3rd entry to pull some FFX-3 shit. The mental breakdowns of all the shippercancer faggots if Tifa cucked Cloud with a literally who and then he got his head blown off would he legendary. They only like FFVIIR for "doing something different" as long as its completely predictable and doesn't affect the status quo in any way.

>>716424370 (OP)
for me it is one of the greatest games of all time. I love the combat system and the legendary soundtrack

https://youtu.be/ujrn-yfo8Ts?si=Vpib2Xu9MdDjTt2r

>>716434825
how many times can we fall for this trick

>>716435558
Every "I like it because it's different" poster would slit their own throats if Tifa hooked up with Barret even if it was the most beautifully written romance ever put to screen.

>>716432767
For some reason this angers bitter feminists who hates to see people have fun

>>716435751
true, after remake I was ready for shit to play out differently but hilariously theyve alienated all but the most sycophantic 7 nutgobblers, rebirth has done exactly 0 to change the narrative in any meaningful way, they want to have their cake and eat it too while they essentially dilute the original with nomura nonsense

>>716424370 (OP)
I dont get why they didnt just make the entire map of the size of the grasslands with some locked out areas that get unlocked as you progress through the story.
This thing where you have a big empty map that you need to unlock a new chocobo so you can go tap points of interest is so fucking tiring. It almost feels like the game revolves around chocobos.
A linear game like Remake would have been even better

>>716435010
Maybe some Tifa cosplayer cucked this woman

Rebirth peaked with Dyne.

>>716424370 (OP)
I would love a FFX prequel with Auron and Braska though

>>716436330
Incredibly unlikely, but if a fantasy this far fetched is what helps us cope with OP being right, I'll gladly take it

>>716436457
>OPhag replied to my post
Uh, guess I might be right after all

>>716434404
The whole collective shout and tea leak really blackpilled a lot about women bro, they really found this place

>>716436538
Definitely. Be sure to expose her with this tale every time you see the pasta from now on.

Uhh guys i think OP left

>>716437170
Doubt it, she will say "OP is right again" while seething
Premenopause really drives women crazy

>>716429118
OP said 7R is not good therefore she's wrong.

>>716432767
You need to ask women permission to like things now

>>716424370 (OP)
You sound like a really depressed person

>>716432767
That's the key to enjoying life

>>716424370 (OP)
It's true, I played this because I love the characters.
I'll play the third game as well.

>>716437450
BUT WE ARE OFFENDING WOMEN BY LIKING THINGS!!!!

>>716432767
>>716437827
Based and same

>>716428478
>42
This guy is 45 10 years ago

>>716437827

>>716437660
It's a copypasta and a shitpost but it's rooted in a certain level of truth. One of the problems I have with 7R's narrative is how noncommital it is and how it seems like decisions are being made with marketing in mind, rather than narrative integrity.

Look, I like Zack. Seriously. Even if I think Crisis Core was not worth it, I still like Zack. The amount of Zack wank has crossed over into ridiculous. I was willing to let slide the fact that Zack invented Seventh Heaven. I was willing to draw the line at Zack barely having anything to do with the critical events of CC. I was even willing to let slide the fact that Zack went from being ambushed by 3 people to soloing an entire Battalion. Because the teenager in me appreciated him even as the adult in me is critical of it 15 years after the fact. With that being said, I have to draw the line somewhere. And I think that line is this shit right here.

Why the fuck is Zack so important nowadays. Don't tell me it's because of FF7. Zack barely existed and the game is still popular to this day. Zack has been entirely uplifted by marketing and fan reception, to the point that now his ghost can have a back to back team up with Cloud against Sephiroth. Even though he's supposed to be fucking dead. Why hasn't he diffused into the Lifestream already? You can argue Aerith has Cetra bullshit but what's Zack's excuse? It feels like I can't take the FF7 universe on its own merits anymore. Future and past events will be dictated on popularity rather than the setting which just shatters the immersion of FF7 being a place that could exist.

>>716438040
who is this, what did he do?

>>716437827
Well, I appreciate that you can just say it. For the record that's the only reason why I'm still watching it.

>>716438295
>Don't tell me it's because of FF7. Zack barely existed and the game is still popular to this day
Zack was added last to FF7 and nojima has said multiple times that he regrets not being able to do something else with him back in the day
it is the reason why crisis core was invented

>>716438295
>noncommital
That's actually a modern problem, specially in Japan. You can't make characters 100% bad or make your heroes do something bad. It's limiting writers a lot mostly because fans cry A LOT instead of taking this art as entertainment to pass the time.
I heard is really bad in gachas since you can have a bunch of transbians and chinkcels mad if a female talks to a male or some shit, guess Nasu was lucky since fgo is from 2016 or something
>Why the fuck is Zack so important nowadays
Anon, notice the obsession with NUMBERS? You get the compilation because AC got BIG NUMBERS
You get Zack because Zack got BIG NUMBERS
You get 7r instead of some fitting timelines remake experiment with 8 because 7 had BIG NUMBERS
In the end people just get what they deserve

>>716438567
Okay fine. So he wants to bring more attention to Zack. And you know what, I'm not fundamentally against that. Zack is, no snark or bullshit here, a genuinely likeable guy. I totally understand why someone like Cloud would want to model himself after Zack considering how Sephiroth turned out. If the Remake series limited it to flashbacks contextualizing the type of person Zack was, I wouldn't have complained even though that wasn't present in OG. And TO REMAKE'S CREDIT, I think the idea of Cloud misremembering the lost trooper as Zack was a truly inspired decision. Really my irritation comes with the idea of forcing Zack into the present day. I have a theory on what they're doing with the Dream Worlds. But while I think it will be very emotional in the moment, just like the DMW, I think it will not justify a whole series of tolerating them.

>>716438567
Some people think less is more, but not in this case. Imagine how much better FF7 would have been with more Zack scenes

>>716424370 (OP)
The only good Final Fantasy game of the last 20 years

>>716439043
is Jack's game.

>>716424370 (OP)
At this point, I'll never have a true remake, so my only hope is that pt 3 fails so bad, square decides to never approach the subject again, sparing 6, 8, 9, and 10fags. I want "3" to do so poorly, by comparison rebirth is a smashing success

>>716438940
what's the theory?

>>716439201
Rebirth IS a smashing success even if SE say otherwise

FF8 proved theres no writing bad enough that cant be fixed by an autistic theoryfag
No matter how bad they fuck up 7s plot you'll still be hearing about its secret genius in 30 years

>>716438295
He's dead.

>Remake Midgar slums
>Oh it's a happy go luck poor community everyone has a heart of gold helps each other bla bla
>Remake Kalm
>Due to retarded compilation shit, they did the whole town was burned down and was replaced by a replica in turn fucking over og Nibelheim story
>Remake Gongaga
>While expanding on this section is good again with the whole happy genki go luck kumbaya community shit. If there was anything you could say about it in the original was that it was depressing bum fuck dump in the middle of nowhere. Oh and Shinra creating a monument to their fuck up is just so out of character for them
>Remake Corel Prison
>Went from a place that was pretty much a death sentence packed to the brim with cutthroats and scoundrels of the worst kind. Its basically just a bunch of weirdos at this point
>Remake Cosmo Canyon
>Turned into some kind of tourist trap
>Remake Nibelheim
>Due to Kalm now stealing the OG Nibelheim story they decided to turn it into some kind of health resort for the robed men

>>716439409
>I like it, so it's good
When square was so quick to brag about remake sales, but haven't officially released figures for rebirth a year and a half later?
Try again, anon.

>>716439710
>>Oh it's a happy go luck poor community everyone has a heart of gold helps each other bla bla
like the original

>>716440189
>everyone has a heart of gold
lol what
The slums is full of scumbags

>>716439201
I do like the remakes, but i am secretly hoping they make a Kingdom hearts final mix type definitive edition with all three remakes in one with an original experience mode that is a direct copy of the OG FF7

>>716440270
who?
that was wall market
in sector 5 and 7 people were poor, yes, but they took care of each other

>>716439525
It's not genius. I fucking hate it

>>716439368
So it comes down to Sephiroth's TotA speech and what the Dream Worlds are supposed to be. Sephiroth's goal is the same as OG, absorb the Lifestream. His intentions however are more altruistic. In Sephiroth's head, he's going to invent Eternity. Everything has to die one day, including the Planet itself. But if Sephiroth can wrest control of the Lifestream from the Planet, he can undo death as a concept. But as Aerith says, this is not the way it's supposed to be. I know that stupid ass final battle was flashy nonsense but it established the point that Sephiroth can already join the Dream Worlds into himself using despair as a base. The problem is that Sephiroth accidently allowed a dead Aerith and a dead Zack to just wander in and help Cloud.

So what's the theory? Sephiroth has just displayed the ability to bring back dead people. So when the bubble pops and Cloud understands that Aerith is dead, he will NOT get better. Rather he'd get worse. Why not help Sephiroth? He can undo the worst tragedies of everyone's lives. Aerith can come back. Zack can come back. Tifa's Dad. Myrna. All the stuff from that flashback in the Temple can be undone. But Aerith wouldn't want that. And Cloud has to accept that. So Cloud will have to fight against Sephiroth.
Which means knowingly let Aerith, Zack, and his mother go forever. And accept that they're gone. It will be an active decision on his part this time.

>>716440348
Not happening

>>716440620
>more effort is spent reproducing shit hair than good hair
Motherfuckers.

Anyone else just grateful we get to spend more time with the characters?

>>716440620
Would to both.

>>716440772
Yes. Although it looks like they made her younger

>>716440348
If subverted expectations is your jam, I guess reach for the stars.

>>716440750
Yes but dont let any women hear you saying that

>>716440575
i know anon, you don't have to twist the knife in deeper

>>716440750
No, they made Tifa and Aerith shit.

i hope they add more stuff to the gold saucer a costa del sol in part 3

>>716435742
Not a trick. Try it. That being said it has a somewhat off Turk feel to it rather exclusively, so it doesn't feel tonally like VII, because it's a very thin slice of it built into a bigger thriller game.

>>716440965
I'm sorry anon.

Played it for my aerith wife. What a sweet, nurturing girl with such a tragic story.

>>716439525
>No matter how bad they fuck up 7s plot you'll still be hearing about its secret genius in 30 years
I think it'll end up being the opposite. The plot is fucking shit and only sustained by muh youtube theory crafters. When the last part comes out and we have all the answers and surprise they're just as disappointing as the rest of the story what's there to talk about?

>>716440750
It's not the characters I wanted, it was the idea of a honest remake I'd envisioned ever since that goddamn PS3 tech demo trailer 20 years ago
That's wanting and hoping time I'll never get back, and settling would only make that feeling worse

>>716441161
One of the few changes I like in Rebirth is making her more venerable and showing her situation more for what it was, pretty shitty, but trying to brush it off by acting as goody as she can in front of people.

>>716441373
I hope someday gen alpha can make a killing on YouTube by doing reaction videos to 6 hour long theories by autistic guys in their 40s who can barely hold back the tears while trying to convince themselves and the world that this garbage for 13 year olds was actually genius and the proof is in the shape of aeriths earrings

>>716441663
Yeah I appreciate that too. The Nibelheim Water Tower scene and even the beach scene were good

>>716441161
Can you imagine a whole movie with graphics like this

>>716440492
nice and you're absolutely right.
Very few people understand what these remakes are doing but not much can be expected out of the low IQ brownoids from /v/. Even Barry himself is some South American 3rd worlder.

>>716439525
The thing you're missing here is FF8 was fucking artistry for the time. Square was at the top of their game, it was very easy for something of that scale to get a following and inspire even if it wasn't very good. FF7R can't even move fanboys.

>>716442068
7R forced all FF7 fans to make a choice. They could accept they will eat any amount of shit just to see the characters again, or walk away. Now that the only remaining fans will lap up literally anything, it's time to get them hooked on the gachas.
It's pure whale hunting. SE don't care if they lose fans. They're simply targeting the big money whales by giving them exactly what they want. You think the zackwank, fujo pandering and waifubait is a mistake? They are simply jerking off an audience that will be loyal paypiggies forever by dripfeeding them their dopamine hits.

>>716424920
His final boss theme is pretty cool as it's a literal race before the degradation takes him, he'd be more than just a 3rd class soldier if he wasn't so ruthless and irresponsible https://youtu.be/IET38qNp7gw

>>716442509
oh hey what's up OP, welcome back

>>716432767
>>716442532
BASED

>>716442027
It's one of those things where the central idea is fine but why the fuck did you do it this way? Just make Cloud choose to accept his circumstances. Why do you have to manufacture afterlife pocket dimensions to get that idea across?

>>716442602
I'm not OP but I would love to know what they think about how their thread turned out

>>716435706
thats just a worse version of the original

>>716442756
they just wanted fans to get confused and make it feel like they're playing the story for the first time

>>716442532
that's very cool anon but that's nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVk6jv-I7XY&list=RDvVk6jv-I7XY&start_radio=1

>>716424370 (OP)
I really liked the combat system in Rebirth, I liked the characters and graphics. The story (I have played only like half of the original game) is kind of confusing to me. You are just chasing after Sephiroth? I didn´t have some clear motivation why I am getting from point A to point B most of the time. The game is also sometimes too weird - I mean the characters act very strange - cartoonishly exegerated so I can´t take it seriously and most of the interactions with side characters was awful due to this and I couldn´t immerse myself into the world.

But it seems a lot of work went into the game, and overall, I enjoyed it. The boss fights are great and again, the combat (fighting) system is very enjoyable and have different layers

>>716442756
because >>716442509

>>716442509
Is that why ever crisis is dying?

>>716443142
I was just going to say bow wow wow bow wow wow originally

>>716443348
With EC dying, FS already dead, and Rebirth failing to meet expectations, SE may have overestimated FF7s whale potential. Yes there are fans who will eat any 7slop, but not enough. Turns out there are FF7 fans who actually care about good gameplay and good storytelling - much to SE's annoyance.

>>716442509
what kind of mental gymnastics are these? is this what you come up with JUST so you can explain people liking something you dont?

>>716443772
He's right about the pandering though

>New Don Corneo Boss fight
>His boss battle theme heavily samples his voice
https://youtu.be/oefbvUzKbmw

>>716443772
How do you usually deal with people disliking something you like?

>>716424612
this really turned out to be true

>Had Rebirth installed for months
>Still three hours in
Should I just delete it? I just can't force myself to play this slop.

>>716445310
You've never played it

>>716445476
Okay turns out I played two hours and 50 minutes

>>716445790
It gets more and more tedious and your only reward is an ending so shit even the most deluded fanboys can accept its terrible

>>716445790
>didn't even reach the open world
Why did you buy it? you've clearly been influenced by /v/iggers into hating it seeing as you basically haven't played it.

>>716445790
Are the swimsuit scenes worth it at least?

>>716446001
meant for >>716445896

>>716445476
>>716445925
Take the fucking L with a little dignity you sad faggot
>waaah why did you listen to /v/ instead of me, and/v/ poster

>>716443608
They had a fair assessment of 7's popularity, but with so many different directions that varied so much from the original, I guarantee you if "remake" was an honest actual remake, fans would've come back regardless, but I imagine many born after the release of the original never gave it a fair shake because it's appearance would've got it anyway to finally see what the hype was about, and retain because 7 touched on a vibe for that time that felt iconic.

>>716446001
You've already seen the webms here. You could save a lot of time and money just looking at those.

>>716446228
What the fuck are you babbling about? If he had actually played the game and then had his buzzword riddled opinion that would be one thing, but to hate it while having played less than 1% of the game is pure /v/igger activities.

>>716446373
I dropped this after 3 hours because boring
>waaah you haven't played it
Here's proof
>WAAAAAHHH WHY DID YOU BUY IT WHY DID YOU LISTEN TO ANYONE SAYING ITS BAD

Jesus christ man get over it

>>716446308
Good point, guess that's 200 gigs and 40 hours saved.

>>716446228
Please do not feed the trolls.

>>716444025
I'm going to guess... really, really badly

>>716446483
I just call it like I see it /v/igger. You don't play video games.

ya'll think they will add more swimsuit stuff in costa del sol for part 3?

>>716446373
>buzzword riddled
I would pay 10,000 dollars to see you explain what you mean by this

>>716446240
7fags barely even like their own game, cried about a remake for 15 years they wanted it replaced so badly

>>716446373
>3 hours
>less than 1%
>game is over 300 hours long
Damn good thing he dropped it when he did

>>716446680
it was in the running for goty obviously people liked it

>>716447076
And it would have won if only it had no competition. As soon as other games started coming out its chances plummeted and here we are.

>>716447223
I thought it or Metaphor should have won. Astro Bot only won because Snoys forgot what platformers were and they thought it was revolutionary. Same thing will happen with E33 this year

>>716447312
Yes, E33 will win but like Astro Bot it won't count

Has anyone ever been more vindicated than OP?

>>716424370 (OP)
The best thing about it is that it makes you mald. It's great to see this game take up so much of your time and headspace. We should all bask in the fact that this game lives rent-free in your mind, and that you permaseethe about it even when you're not posting.

>>716447562
you tell us, OP

>>716447461
why won't it count?

>>716447791
That was already explained >>716447312

>>716447634
How do I learn to stop being angry about OPs posts and start enjoying them

>>716446674
Looks like I'm keeping my money.

>>716447998
DK will win, sorry chud

>>716424370 (OP)
Whats the point of your thread?

>>716448367
I wish... unlike E33 its actually a fresh take on the genre it belongs to

>>716441939
They should make a Final Fantasy movie set in a post-apocalyptic New York. Who should be cast in it? I'm thinking
>Ming Na Wen
>James Woods

>>716424370 (OP)
people will defend trash, we know. doesn't deserve a thread

>>716448394
Spam about Rebirth every day then point out how popular the game is here, when no one outside here gives a fuck anymore.

>>716448949
big if true