Thread 716426292

Honest thoughts on Bloodborne 10 years later?

>>716426292 (OP)
Stupidly overrated. It's a decent souls game, but nothing special.

idk i haven't played it since i don't own a sóystation.

It's the only good Soulslike. Every other game in that genre doesn't worth time spent, Bloodborne's combat is still bad but the game is still bearable overall thanks to great level design, music and art style.

>>716426292 (OP)
Tied for best Souls game with DS1
ER could have been on the same tier if it hadn't fallen for the open world meme

>>716426292 (OP)
'tis good

>>716426292 (OP)
great but Elden Ring better

>>716426898
DS1 and BB are Miyazaki's favorites apparently.

>>716426292 (OP)
I played it expecting a 10/10 masterpiece
and got a 7/10 disappointment
Sekiro wipes the floor with it

>>716426292 (OP)
Its the first Fromsoft game I actually cared enough to finish. I found it frustrating at first but then eventually I got the hang of it and had a lot of fun.

Hardest boss for me: Ram the Vacuous Spider, pretty sure I died to this thing more than Ludwig or the Orphan dude

Easiest boss: Mystery Niggas

>>716426292 (OP)
FromSoftware's best and a faitful vidya adaption of the shortstories of Lovecraft. Only thing holding it back now is the locked 30fps.

>>716427785
Ackshually, your eyes cannot see more than 5 fps

>>716426292 (OP)
Easily the best one and one of the goats

>>716426292 (OP)
10/10 when it was launched

>>716426292 (OP)
Where can I play this on PC emulator?

>>716426415
What's a 10/10 to you?

>>716426292 (OP)
Ludocore.

>>716426292 (OP)
Still one of the coolest settings in any media

I love every aspect of this game
Soundtrack, graphics design, weapons, spells, lore, gameplay

>>716426292 (OP)
good but lies of p surpassed it

>>716426292 (OP)
I haven't played it.

>>716428272
It should be possible right now, I saw a guy streaming it months ago and I'm pretty sure he played through the entire thing. I think it crashed every now and then but it wasn't too often and didn't give him much trouble.

>>716427472
>Easiest boss: Mystery Niggas
anon clearly didnt find the celestial emissary boss

>>716426415
You obviously played Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3 first like the stupid zoomie you are.

>>716428679
In being homosexual, yes

>>716428679
lies of twink sweeps all soulslike

>>716428679
>>716428853
Only like 5 troons believe this. meanwhile the puppet shit is literally retarded

>>716426292 (OP)
Emulated it's not bad
It is what it is, a mostly railroaded shitty action game that tried a few things

On console it's completely shit and buggy as fuck with sub 20fps in a lot of places

>>716426292 (OP)
The most succinct proof that atmosphere and setting and artistry brutally mogs gameplay. As long as the gameplay is virtually the same between two games, in broad strokes, the game with the superior atmosphere will be the better experience. Video game directors should put more work and effort into into memorable settings and atmosphere because it's the most important part of the experience.

>>716426292 (OP)
wish it was easier to run. non-retro console exclusives are assrape

>>716428951
Souls games are 100% adventure games. That is the appeal.

>>716426898
>>716426965
DS1 and BB feel the most artistically honest. You can feel the passion in them. They are the least derivative Fromsoft games. Elden Ring came close, but failed to abandon the boss obsession from worst souls 3

>>716426292 (OP)
It's one of the best games ever made. It mogs the rests of From's catalogue and makes shit like Lies of P and Lords of Shadow look like total trash

>>716428782
I forgot all about this thing. I haven't played in years.

>>716428642
>living failures theme plays as I go upstairs for tendies

>>716428923
unironically cope. lies of p is the most visually stunning game ive ever played and the aesthetics are pure kino. also the gameplay is the only soulslike outside of the fromsoft games that feels like a genuine soulslike with depth and strategy.

>>716428853
>>716428679
I like P and already finished a 4th playthrough but this is being a stupid contrarían
>Dumbed down version of Bloodborne's style and design language
>Inferior version of Sekiro's combat
>Less combat depth than any of the two even after trying to mix both of them
It's probably the best soulslike out there but the "like" is still in there for a reason, it can't touch the originals, at all.

>>716426292 (OP)
Simultaneously pretty good and also one of the most overrated games of all time, and proof of how little gameplay actually matters to a lot of people, i.e. >>716428957

>>716429059
The problem I have with BB is that it's not really adventure at all
It's literally like a level based game

It's pretty much 'new area, these are the new enemies you will see, all 4 of them in the first 30 seconds, now go explore this shitty area for 30 minutes'

The actual souls game had a bit of variety to them

>>716429281
>"the most visually stunning game ive ever played"
>look inside
>It's just a random European street

>>716429379
I can't name too many level based games where you can go to different levels within a level, unless it's shit like NES Castlevania, which had different exits to levels, which was absolutely kino. I can't think of any besides that in fact. This would also be calling like Metroid level based.
>It's pretty much 'new area, these are the new enemies you will see, all 4 of them in the first 30 seconds, now go explore this shitty area for 30 minutes'
This is all the souls games if you're not into them, and most games in general, with the caveat BB and Souls games have like dozens and dozens of enemies.

>>716429786
What I mean is that BB is very frontloaded when you get to a new area
Like you meet the regular hollow version of npcs in BB then some dogs then the big ogre looking things with the brick and that's pretty much it for the first 30 minutes with a random pairing of wolves and some rats in the sewers
After that it's more hollowed/beast npcs again and then wolves for a while
Then it kinda continues like that

I suppose the problem I have with it is while they were clearly trying to the beast npcs = standard humans, they had no fucking clue and like I'd say at least 40% of the enemies consist of them or just the same thing multiplied over and over

still best souls and one of the best games of all time

>>716426292 (OP)
Masterpiece

>>716429990
I have no idea what you're talking about frankly. What is a beast NPC?

>>716429474
you just outed yourself rakesh

>>716428679
Lol

Kino game, kino soundtrack, best soulsbourne game I ever played. It's too bad I played it 10 years later, but better late than never.
>>716427472
For me, the 2nd hardest boss was Darkbeast Paarl. I don't know why, but it took me over 3 hours to beat him. Orphan of Kos can still go choke on a bag of dicks
>>716428642
lmao
>>716429110
I was always disappointed how DS1 was incomplete after fighting Ornstein and Smough. If only there was more budget to flesh out Lost Izalith or the Tomb of the Giants.

>>716430132
>You just outed yourself as someone who walks next to buildings that looks just like that whenever he goes for a coffee in the morning
Okay? Maybe if you didn't live surrounded by Wal-Marts you wouldn't be so astonished by regular European architecture

>>716426292 (OP)
>gothic horror
>look inside
>ayylmaos
its kino
gameplay is great too idk what people in this thread are smoking

>>716426292 (OP)
it's the ONLY souls game that made me care about the lore

>>716426965
He knows what's up

>>716430565
It also has the arguably simplest lore besides Demon's Souls... and it's fucking complete.

what is the new game plus like in bloodborne? im nearing the end of the old hunters dlc and i want to get straight back into it after i kill gehrman

>>716430565
>>716430859
I don't know shit about the lore in any of these games besides the most basic obvious shit like "going back in time and seeing sif"
How do you actually learn the lore of these games? Unironically reading every item description?

>>716430965
Its fun. Its like a victory lap. In a game as short as Bloodborne I typically take a character to at least NG+2 because by the time you beat the game the first time your build has only just been completed.

>>716430965
the best thing ng+ is good for is to fight enemies/bosses with weapons you couldn't use before
try a full wheel run

>>716431171
>Unironically reading every item description
Yes. Just do a playthrough where you read the description for everything you pick up. Alternatively you can just watch a video by vaati or whatever, but I find that less fun personally.

>>716428679
KEK

>>716430560
>gameplay is great too idk what people in this thread are smoking
the gameplay is good but it's only better than standard souls gameplay in a couple respects, and worse to much worse in many others
level design is nothing special post-central yharnam, trick weapons are basically aesthetic (now you're mashing L1 instead of R1!), build variety is much worse so it's more of a straight action game and yet despite that the boss roster is pretty bad (at least in the base game), the parry system is cool but way too few enemies are built around it (back to the boss roster being bad, too many beasts/monsters and too few hunters), etc etc
fundamentally it's not bad but it's nowhere near deserving of the amount of fellating it gets

>>716432016
>now you're mashing L1 instead of R1
this makes no fucking sense

>>716426292 (OP)
It's a refined version of DeS and DaS, but that is also its flaw. The game is a new IP for God's sakes, an opportunity to try something new yet it repeats so many elements from DeS and DaS because Miyazaki can only make one game. Bloodborne is also clearly unfinished. Everything post the blood moon is rushed and you can see bad or even empty geometry everywhere.

It's 9/10 with Demon's Souls being 10/10.

>>716426292 (OP)
I love it but the majority of the bosses are pretty shit and that's it's biggest flaw.

>>716426415
agreed
>on release
extremely overhyped but sort of worthy since DS2 was such a let down, BB was exciting to move onto
>now
Fromslop has shown in other titles more depth, BB is damn short and it's fanboys ignore that about 1/3rd of the game isnt that good on replay. Some of the best bosses, and at least they weren't rehashed in ER. Only a 8/10 max most ppl think 6

>>716431171
>>716431296
I wouldn't read anything the second you pick it up though because it's annoying to interrupt your gameplay. Wait until you're back at the hub area and then read all the new stuff you got. That's just me though.

>>716426292 (OP)
I just want back and replayed it, and man, it held up. The game is a joy to explore.

>>716426292 (OP)
Masterpiece. Played it for the first time on emu this year and it became my new favorite From kino.

>>716426292 (OP)
I share an apartment with my brother. He owns and XBOX, PlayStation, and Switch and I only own a PC but he doesn't like me playing games on his consoles. But he's on a couple-days trip so I can blitz through Bloodborne before he gets back, and hear what the hype is about.
I normally am in the camp that you should go into From game blind, but can someone fill me in on Bloodtinge and Arcane? Are the sort of thing you should just ignore in favor or STX/DEX/VIT/END?

>>716437430
Bloodtinge is for mostly guns and a few weapons that scale with it. Arcane is magic. Both of these require a bit more work to use as a main stat since the weapons are harder to get. Ignore them for now.

>>716437609
cheers m8

>>716426292 (OP)
It has only two flaws
- Being stuck on a shitty console.
- Blood Vials is a bad system.

Otherwise, a masterpiece.

If it wasn't so marred by technical issues it would probably be my favourite Souls game. I love the setting, the enemy design, the faster and more aggressive combat. But the frame rate and pacing is terrible and you add to that the chromatic aberration and it's just a headache to play.

>>716437430
Also can someone explain Insight to me? My very limited and possibly wrong impression is that if you have to little certain things become invisible and you get more by killing bosses.

>>716426292 (OP)
Played it for the first time last year and its easily among my favorite games of all time now. And this is without experiencing the multiplayer portion of the game.

>>716427472
Mystery Niggas are a bitch on NG+.

>>716438440
Insight = inhuman knowledge. It enables you to see things you would otherwise be unable to perceive, most notably a certain type of eldritch entity which populates the game world. It also changes subtle details about certain enemies and the environment, and affects a certain boss fight. It lowers your frenzy resistance and your beasthood stat. You gain insight both from encountering and defeating bosses and also from discovering certain secrets and locations. Insight can be used as a currency to gain items from the messengers in the Hunter's Dream. Having high insight generally makes the game more difficult, but be aware that some of the rarest and most valuable items in the game can be acquired in exchange for a large amount of insight.

>>716426292 (OP)
Great game

>>716437939
I think it has more flaws than that but it’s still one of my favorite games of all time
>vials and bullets
>bloodtinge is an extremely limited build
>arcanes better but there’s only enough options to make “the arcane build” with the only variation being primary weapon choice
> chalice dungeons either needed a LOT more variation and dedicated content or it should have been scrapped and repurposed to bolster the main game
>plots a cut and paste job and while the lore is absolutely fascinating the actual plot is bordering on nonsense
>the only way to reset an area is to warp to and from the dream

I’m sure there’s more, it’s just that the good outweighs all of that

>>716426292 (OP)
>10 years

I was very active here 10 years ago. No game created so much meltdown and shitposing as Bloodborne. Golden times.

>>716426415
It is overrated but it is absolutely something special. It may be the best 8/10 of all time

Just started playing it at a friend’s place who owns it. I don’t want my hand held the whole time but what are the benefits/drawbacks between costing pistol or blunderbuss at the start?

>>716436160
>>716441058
What build is this? I'm on v0.10.0 and I'm getting performance drops in some areas

>>716444360
Blunderbuss is a spread shot and pistol is higher damage per individual bullet. The idea is I guess that the blunderbuss can stagger crouds but in practicality that’s not often viable. Pistols the better choice for all situations but hunter fights, cuz they have a slightly harder time dodging the spread.

>>716444487
Cheers, much appreciated

>>716444573
Np anon, have fun

>>716426292 (OP)
It's the second best game in its subgenre. Only Dark Souls is better.

Everyone wanks "le cosmic horror" stuff, and while I agree no game does it better, to me the real appeal was the Van Helsing type atmosphere and aesthetics. Chalice dungeons suck ass. Places like Nightmare Frontier and Forbidden Woods are just as bad as Lost Izalith.

>>716444914
I don’t love the frontier, especially the fucking poison bog slog but the woods are hugely overhated. It’s the only forest level in any game I’ve ever played that actually makes me feel like I’m lost in the woods. The huntsman camp with the boobytraps is cool, and so is the transition from people to snake people past the windmill. You may not enjoy what it’s going for but you have to admit it’s going for something, and with a lot more effort that izaleth.

>>716444914
It's better. Faster combat, even better atmosphere. Less builds, though. DaS is second.

>>716426292 (OP)
I still think it's great. Going through it on release with no wiki, getting the best ending because I explored the game carefully, was an incredible feeling.
Wish I could play through the game again ON MY PC AND NOT AT 30 FPS.

>>716426292 (OP)
I dont know who to give the cainhurst letter to

How is the DLC? I did two playthroughs of the game but need to get the DLC.

>>716447701
...have you read the invitation's description?

>>716448221
He probably means the one you actually get from cainhurst

>>716447701
Alf

>>716448221
>>716448507
yeah, that one. from the place. Need to find alf now. Thankses

>>716448804
The clue is that when you first talked to Alfred he mentioned Logarius and his adoration for him and the Executioners as a whole