I know it's early but what does /v/ think of it so far? like one a scale of 1-10.
I'm feeling a 7.5-8 atm.

>>716435359 (OP)
i think you can wuchang on my wo long deez nuts

5. That's the biggest amount of points derivative unreal engine from clone slop deserves. Loses extra points for forcing femoid protagonist shit, additional for implying women could ever use weapons.

is that a hecking sekiro reference

>>716435359 (OP)
7/10 so far. Its fun but it has some really annoying and retarded shit. Like I am just hacking and slashing, hit an exploding jar and instantly die. Because of the generic UE aesthetics its difficult to identify these things.

>>716435359 (OP)
It looks like kusoge.
Regular enemies don't take any stagger from basic attacks.

>>716435359 (OP)
Another Souls wanna be. I'm so tired of them.
>Muh difficulty
>Look its just like Dark Souls
All so so tiring.
I give a 0 out 10

>>716437626
Cuckiro wasn't good

It's fun, i also coomed.

>>716435359 (OP)
Solid 7.5 for me

>>716436154

>>716435359 (OP)
I don't play ching-ding games sorry.
I have a hard rule: if the name of a game sounds like a sound effect from a classic Batman comic, I'm not touching it.

Difficulty is either really easy or really hard. No inbetween. Every human/humanoid can be cheesed with backstabs or big stronger enemies dont react to your hits and just stomp you relentlessly.

why is this mongoloid spamming his unfunny shit

Man the red eye niggas are so annoying, tons of health and they're super hard to get distance from to heal cuz they can leap 50m

>>716437954
Or if it sounds like something youd order from Wang Chungs Egg Rolls after a hard night of drinking

>>716437956
Modern development is full of incompetence. E33 story mode is basically hard mode. This game it's either too easy to say to hard.
It's like modern devs don't know how to balance their fucking games

>Crawling Boss stands up to expose their breasts when staggered and has jiggle physics when hitting them
Best souls game

>>716437954
Are people really this desperate to bait anons for a (you)?

>game lets you go anywhere
>but if you do, quest break
shadow of the erdtree "a charm has broken" garbage

Dunkey said it's shit and he'd rather play Donkey Kong so 0/10

>>716438472
Dunkey is also a cuck and praises Nintendo when they shit down his throat

>>716438613
He's the only YouTuber calling this chinkslop out for what it is, so I'll trust his opinion while you seethe out of your mind chang.

7.5/10

The parts its lacking in like enemy variety, some of the combat options being lame like not swapping out L1 moves or how few actually cool moves you can do because enemies just hyperarmor half the time is brought up because the level design is fantastic. Easily the best non-FROM level+world design and honestly better than fucking DS2/DS3 in that regard.

I'd say the bosses are kinda lame, music is lacking. Its going to be forgetable like Wukong and Khazan are but worth playing for how much nicer the level design is instead of being super linear.

>>716435359 (OP)
chinkslop/10

It's literally just a shitty Dark Souls clone down to all the shit things about Dark Souls

>>716435359 (OP)
I was having fun until commander Hong made me respec my entire build. Fucking infinity health cunt

>Get stunlocked by a flamethrower gremlin
Rude

Runs fine (on a 5090)
Looks good
MC has a flat chink ass
Combat is generic rollslop that I’ve grown tired of

6/10, worth playing on game pass, not worth finishing

Why the fuck did i waste my souls on the centipede armor

>>716437713
take the Axe pill

>>716438697
>upscales a 60$ game so you can sell it for $80
Nintendo slick for that one

>>716435359 (OP)
>spin camera in a certain area
>frames drop

I hear going too far breaks quests. What are the points of no return to look out for?

my feathers... they are falling....

>>716439135
>Whataboutism

>>716439451
the big ones break if you venture into the third area before finishing the second area (mountain area before snow area)

>can fail quests
This shit again? I had enough of it on Lords of the Fallen. If they want me to replay their game, make the world and characters cool and interesting. I will give this decent slop 1 playthrough and no more.

>>716439329
kek i wanted to make the same one
i'm getting my ass kicked

Is this for later? In the doomwillow area

>>716439758
you've missed a route before you enter the shu sanctum

>>716435359 (OP)
I don't play that many souls games. But I'm really not liking attack animation locks.
Some of the attack animations are so fucking, unnecessarily long.

>>716439826
Which way? Ive seen the panda

Man this bitch is rough, 50% of my health in one hit and she's not super easy to dodge.

>>716439558
>Can't deny it
There are still no real Switch 2 games

Would you?
What level weapon upgrades are you meant to be at for centipede and this boss? Feels like I'm missing some damage.

>>716437728

Do you get to have sex with the red cape lady in the true ending?

>>716439973
Spam the sweep fire spell then hit her tits in phase 2.

>>716439160
How come the camera shits itself everytime im coming down stairs? ie the first teleporter stairs

>>716438472
>muh e-celeb
I hope you're mum dies

>>716439451
This is my problem.
Too many quests without much direction of whether it's going to break or you've gone too far to go back for it.

Lies of P had it down really good, imo. Specially with having a little icon to tell you a general idea of quest location/return for it.

>>716440242

Why this nigga here

>>716440269

>if you go talk to this person, before this person literally right next to them, you fail a quest line
Are you fucking kidding me, how was I supposed to know Person B would give me something to hand over to Person A but if you talk to A before B, it fails.

Idc cant remember chink names

>>716440373

>>716440390
which area?

>>716435359 (OP)
Has the patch made it run better? I got sick so I wasn't in the mood to play today.

whats his endgame

I like about as much as the best non-TN soulslikes but I'm gonna wait for some patches to play further

>>716440473
Reverent Temple, after the world goes to shit. If you go inside and talk to He Youzai first he gets exhausted/tired, but you are SUPPOSED to talk to Fang Yao outside of the temple off a side path that I didn't see first. She gives you stuff to give to him, but since he is exhausted/tired he won't accept my items. This is definitely the tail end of the game though if you aren't this far. Kind of annoying since looking it up, two endings are locked to handing him this shit.

The fact that enemies can grab you when knocked down is stupid.

Everyone talking about quests and NPC but i have not seen anyone except your homie since the shu sanctuary

so, bird sorc is impossible, right?

The combat feels so clunky and... I don't know, unresponsive? Like, I don't feel the hits or the dodges I am doing.

>>716440729
Not enough hitstop

Is it me or the buildup from temperance is ridiculously low? Literally impossible to apply any status.

>>716440049
>tfw didn't even know I could upgrade weapon damage until the first human boss fight

>>716440693
oh, I'm not even close, thanks, I'll remember that

>Lose because the boss gets stuck on clutter and it fucks my dodge

>>716435359 (OP)
>Wulong
>Wukong
>Wuchang
Why the fuck do all these games sound the fucking same?

>>716440801
I think the UI is bad placed too. I often can't see I am running out of health or stamina.

>>716441000
For me, it's honestly Wu-Tang

>>716441000
incorrect translation

>>716440879
I only did it by accident before the centipede, didn't even know it was a thing for the first boss with the face makeup. Now I'm sitting at +2, but only really big attacks seem to deal good damage like the priest's blood spear spell.

Get fucked

>>716435359 (OP)
4/10. The gameplay is decent but it feels too floaty, the performance is dogshit, way too many instances where I miss an attack on a locked on enemy because it randomly decides to slash in a completely different direction and I hate the world layout and level design especially with how slow the run is.

daily reminder, chinks are based

>>716440693
At least you managed to to Fang yao
I fucked up and finished the end boss of the shaft before she moved to the shaft
now she's gone

>>716441382
>I hate DS1 level design
Lmao

>>716441902
>before she moved to the shaft
unf

>>716441570
basado

Why does this cunt have so much HP? She could have 50% less and it would still be a good fight.

i'm giving up. If countering 3 of her attacks in a row does fuck all, I don't know what the game wants from me.

>finally meet Xuanyangzi again
>He speaking about a boss i already defeated
did i brick my ending?

Can you break out of grabs? Some of these punish animations are really fucking long.

>>716441205
gratz. total dogshit boss. 2nd phase was so dumb cuz she just kept attacking

>>716441735
>harry potter shit
>knight armor
kek

>>716440729
>>716440801
>>716441072
I feel that too but during bosses. It's fine during the levels because enemies are simpler. But bosses are the weakest part because mechanically it's a bit sluggish and janky, and not as satisfying. Especially after playing BB and LoP, this feels like a big step down. The lack of defensive option means there's there's a lack of risk-reward trade-off between dodge, block, parry... since it's mostly all dodge here, it's a lot less interesting. Even the axe block doesn't feel good to use because it's sluggish too.

And yeah the HP bar at the bottom is such a weird choice. Sometimes I don't even "feel" that I got hit, and I don't see it either because of that. The UI is shit.

What's even the point of selecting spells with left dpad on the UI, when they're all accessible and activated with Y and shoulders?

But I actually like that the levels are the main difficulty rather than the bosses. I wish it used the rally/health regain and vial refill mechanic, after getting used to them it feels so weird without them, but the levels being so lengthy between bonfires are forcing me to alternate between consumables like buns instead of only relying on estus. That's more... DS2.

So many branching side paths, twists and turns, nooks and crannies, ambushes, vertical spots, locked doors, etc all over the place. It's great.

>>716441570
No pubes? Not based.

>>716435359 (OP)
This game closer to stellar blade or nier ?

>>716441962
You're not wrong. I spent 3 hours trapped in the catacombs at the beginning until all of my weapons broke and was forced to look it up online because the stupid jap cunt devs hid the actual way forward with a TINY little path that wraps around a mountain from firelink shire. Also Lost Izalith and Crystal Cave exist, in fact everything after Anor Londo sucks in that game.

>>716442270
try talking to gao hon lao bong to cultivate for the wu zhang jong

>>716442774
>Especially after playing BB
Yep. I fell it's a mistake playing this right before I just finished BB because it's really hard not to compare the two.

7/10 it keeps giving me fatal error crashes for some reason but its kinda fun and also is the longsword the only weapon that can parry?

https://youtu.be/t-heU1XbJr8?si=rrpkxse38G0ZJSHv

>>716442251
She's pretty vulnerable to corruption so grab the needle from the upgrade tree, shaves off a decent chunk of her hp when it procs. Make sure your weapons are at least +3 too. She was the first boss that took me more than 1-2 tries.

played for like 4 hours and just made it to the second area, underground
game is solid, it was a 5/10 for me the first hour or so, but now it's a solid 7 after getting used to the slower combat (compared to khazan and wukong which were the last "soulslike" games i played, whereas wuchang seems more focused on exploration than insanely good combat like the former
playing longsword but might spec into single handed sword a bit to fuck around

>b-but enemies dont stagger!

>>716441570
Damn

>>716442842
It's a literal Dark Souls clone

>>716442251
Basically you're only allowed to do damage via the back. I think her HP isnt even the issue its the damage she deals that makes the fight unfun.
She staggers on heavy attacks or the stab from the sword counter. I guess if you play axe it might be an easy matchup as well.

>>716442251
She's pretty easy to stagger especially after her big leg attack and air attack in phase 2. Once I figured that out the only issue was more with how random her moves' hit boxes were in the second phase. I hadn't unlocked parry at that point either.

>>716442774
>The lack of defensive option
He says about a game with like 6 separate defensive options that all have their own strengths.

>>716442842
Stellar blade, but it has a stamina bar like most soulslikes

>>716443083
I agree for the most part, combat is more janky than it's peers, but it's really nice there's very few checkpoints so the shortcuts are actually relevant in this one. Reminds me of Dark Souls 1.

>>716438472
>Nintendo shill is a Nintendo shill
Ok

>>716442251
So clash doesn't stop combos? I've done this fight parrying with long sword, and it did work.

>>716438445
(You) Are the problem

>>716443406
I think there's some nodes to let your clash interrupts combos somewhere

>>716443294
What the actual fuck. Why do long swords counters do so much but spear counters do literally nothing.

>actually useful tutorial tab

>>716439329
Took me one hour to beat her, in the first phase after her kick and in second phase after her jumping attack you can stagger her easily.

>>716443298
That's why I said "mostly", they're locked behind weapons and the skill tree, optional playstyles rather than one core design. Design doesn't feel as tight as a result. I'm still early so I hope it improves.

>>716443760
u can disable that gore plaguing the left side of ur screen btw

>>716443760
If you're struggling and in need of defensive options that early you should just drop the game now cause holy fuck are you a shitter. The game doesn't give you defensive options until later and makes you work for them cause you don't fucking need them where you are now. Just learn to dodge you vermin.

>>716443857
Don't get mad over me criticizing this chinkslop you fucking cock sucking faggot

>the game trains you to attack from behind
>attacks to the centipede from behind do not do anything
ok

>MGS3
>Sekiro
>Wuchang
What are some other games with boss fights in a field of white flowers?

so do you really have to go to blighttown before reaching the ming palace, i found a shortcut which bring me back to the shu temple but not sure if that was always there

>>716443957
lmao such a shitter he gets ass fuck mad and blames the game instead of his own lack of skill. What an absolute fucking loser bitch. How about next time you stop and think about maybe you being the problem(you are).

>>716443356
the lack of checkpoint annoys me desu cause the whole losing souls mechanic stresses me tf out for no reason and makes me play less aggressively than i normally would
also losing your souls OUTSIDE the boss arena in khazan was goated and i hope more games adopt that if theyre gonna do xp loss on death

>>716443975
Bloodborne
Wukong probably had one too

>>716443760
That's such an arbitrary outlook. The core design is using those defensive options and the game is balanced around it, that's how all good action games are made and especially action rpgs like Dark Souls. You can't just draw your own line in the sand, that's like saying souls is balanced solely around 1v1 boss fights and rolling.

>>716444113
>that's like saying souls is balanced solely around 1v1 boss fights and rolling.
Yeah...it is...

>>716444027
there is only one way to the palace and it's through blighttown

>>716443857
least rabid soulsfag when people don't want to put up with split second timings and punishments that waste hours of your life

>>716444113
Because he is seething at the game and trying to make up an excuse to pretend he's justified instead of just admitting that he's mad he got filtered

>>716443851
Already did. I cleared most of the area around the red temple.

>>716443957
You're not me!

>>716443857
I didn't say it was more difficult, I said it was less interesting. LoP is particularly well designed around the trade-offs between dodging and parrying. Parrying in LoP is much harder than dodging in Wuchang.

>>716444165
Sure, if you ignore the other 99% of the game.

>>716444058
Just play with low madness, you only seem to drop a portion of your souls then. If you need to reset it, just use madness incense or buy from the invoke store to cap out your madness, die somewhere convenient, and kill your devil clone.

>>716444239
I love the irony of people accusing soulsfags of deflecting all criticism when they're deflecting all criticism of themselves to a strawman of soulsfags deflecting criticism. I have heavily criticized Elden Ring for it's overtuned and poorly designed difficulty. Wuchang is simply not poorly designed no matter how much you cope.

>>716444265
>I didn't say it was more difficult, I said it was less interesting
In what way? It really feels like you're just trying to mental gymnastics an excuse to justify your biased opinion instead of organically coming to this conclusion cause your criticism is unbelievably contrived.

>>716444459
>wuchang is not poorly designed
>literally full of noob traps
Whatever you say

i already found the best outfit and i refuse to change it until the end of the game

>stuck on general fight, using spears
>his grab instakills me
>decide to switch to ming armor and just ignore the frostbite
>able to tank his combos spamming swift draw (ebb and flow) with life leech temper
>win in one try
i pretty much cheesed it but whatever, this boss was aids

>>716444567
So was Dark Souls 1 the founder of the genre. A game punishing you for being careless is not a fault of the game, it is a fault of you as a player. The game fully equips you with all the tools available to not fall into "noob traps" so if you still fall into them that is only a fault of your own incompetence.

the bikini girl with the dog skelly face just handed my ass to me. I can't get 10% of it.

I'm in the blood swamp after the centipede boss, I'm surprised at how large these areas are.

I hate how the perfect dodge in this game makes me feel I was hit. And then during combat I don't even know when I am actually hit.

>>716435359 (OP)
I gave the cursed thing to that girl at the temple, oops. At least I didn't give the cannibal dumpling to the grandma. Anything to check in the first zones before I head out for Cloudspire?

>get an item that grants access to benediction menu
>ive already had benediction the entire game
??

>>716444646
You just discovered the concept of changing builds to adapt to different scenarios, that puts you well above the average action game player. Congrats, anon.

>>716444657
No it literally spawns mobs behind you to get you when you don't know it's coming
Fuck off
>B-But DS1 did it!
Yeah that's exactly the point it's a retarded chink DS1 clone

This game unironically has better world/level design than DS2, 3, ER, Lies of P and Wukong. Games have been getting more straightforward or less optional paths and this game actually feels like DS1 but bigger.

>>716444405
i don't die often, i just have to play more carefully and experiment less with the longsword parry mechanic for example, which i can't seem to perfect the timing of, whereas without the loss on death i would just spam parry on every enemy until i understood it right
i disabled souls loss on death in elden ring and immediately started having more fun

>>716443857
Nigger.

>>716444972
>um actually DS1, the unoquivocal best game in the entire genre is bad
Ok nigger, opinion discarded

>>716445060
The entire genre is bad
Games that break out of DS1 conventions are all more fun

>>716444986
I wouldn't go as far to say the level design is as good as DS1 but it feels on a similar level to Bloodborne or Sekiro. But yeah definitely better than all those games you mentioned. I'm so glad there are still some games that remember that DS1 was good because of it's exploration not it's shitty action combat.

Does the scaling gets better with upgrades im curious if its worth swapping to dual blades for the Firearm blades or staying with my current build

>>716445231
I have honestly no idea. I love this game a lot but it does not explain shit.

>>716444986
Yes the level design is top tier so far. I enjoyed Lies of P a lot but in terms of level structure it crushes it. The good parts of Dark Souls 2 without the fucked up interconnectivity

>>716444113
>The core design is using those defensive options and the game is balanced around it
It's not. Parrying in this game feels like shit compared to games that actually have the mechanic in its core instead of something optional.

>>716445231
scaling seems fixed per weapons and you can see the scaling number from I to V

>>716444726
Who?

>>716445379
Hongliu

>>716445204
Nah there is just way more paths than BB or Sekiro. Those games have nothing on par with the Refugee/Marsh/Temple areas that all connect and as you explore them have so many alternate paths for loot or shortcuts. That part took so fucking long to do.

Like I am remembering going up Mt Kongo in Sekiro, and its not that impressive. The most you get is arriving at the castle, and having the path upwards to fuckboy, reservoir to the fucked up town, the path to the monkeys, and Mt Kongo path. Its mostly "now you are in this area" and its fun but not too many side paths or looping back.

>>716445323
They are in the core mechanics, the enemies even use the same exact mechanics on you. You're just being pedantic, either for literally no reason or doing so intentionally to paint the game as worse than it is.

>>716435359 (OP)
soulslike are for women.
go on twitch and look whos playing this mundane soulless soulslop.

>505 Games marketers in this very thread defending rollslop
You love to see it

https://www.twitch.tv/zackrawrr
>daddy playing Wu Chang
lets fucking gooo Poggers in the chat

>>716445554
It's obviously the latter.

>>716445549
Well I've only just gotten past the centipede boss so maybe my impression will change the further I get cause I'm obviously not that far in yet. I have heard people say the first area is the most linear and later areas do open up.

>>716445554
>They are in the core mechanics
They are literally an optional skill you have to unlock AND swap. This shit should be tightly locked to one of your buttons. It isn't. The game wasn't built around it, there's barely any incentive for it. The biggest proof about that is the fact your "mana" is mostly built around dodgeslop. The game has its strengths, having a good combat isn't one of them.

>>716435359 (OP)
It's a easy 10 out of 50.

>>716445536
Just killed her, she's unironically not very difficult. I hyperinvested in longsword and nothing else, maybe you just aren't used to your weapon(s)

>>716445669
This game is on the easy side so I think he will actually finish it unlike Khazan or Lies of P DLC. There is a handful of spikes but generally its about getting lost on a dozen available pathways.

>>716445669
W Asmon someone drop a gifted or TTS y'all

>>716445880
The fact that you seemingly can't make a single post without stuffing it full of meaningless buzzwords leads me to believe you're just pulling shit out of your ass.

this or ai limit?

>>716445880
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, in regards to this game or games in general. By your logic DMC is balanced solely around the basic starting mission moveset and everything else is just useless optional fluff, that's obviously retarded.

>>716435359 (OP)
I'd rate it 10 FPS out of 120. Not quite the performance I get but it sure feels like fucking 10.

>>716446104
This but AI Limit is also good

>>716446104
didn't play AI limit but I find Wuchang to be a superimproved Dark souls 2 with great world design/level design. Story seems alright too

>>716445926
He immediately gave up on Wo Long and blamed the game because he couldn't parry for shit though.

>>716446104
They're both good but this one is slightly better

>>716446104
AI Limit

>>716439048
Best physical defense

>>716435359 (OP)
Agree with 7.5 for its gameplay. I haven't played any souls game since Erdtrees release so I've had time away from them too.
One of the few unreal games I haven't had an issue with funnily enough but it seems everyone else is.

>>716445983
Counterargue or kill yourself, faggot.

>>716446138
I don't give a fuck about what other games do. I am saying that this game clearly didn't built its main combat around this mechanic and I provided the reasons for my line of thought.

>>716446350
>and I provided the reasons for my line of thought.
No you didn't. You just stated it as a matter of fact.

>>716438340
>E33 story mode is basically hard mode
what? doesn't it give you more damage dealt and reduced damage on top of more generous parry windows?

>>716439048
You can override armor designs if you want, my centipede armor is a bit different now

>>716446350
You haven't explained why Shimmer is in a separate category from Clash at all, actually.

>>716442251
I sincerely don't even get why people are bitching like this boss is an insane spike.The game makes sure to tell you a second before you face the boss about clash attack and parries, I've beat her in 4 tries. The longsword parry will absolutely fuck her hp and stance and all you need to do is to keep distance waiting for the charge attack. Deluxe shitters got no room to complain since from what I've seen the weapons you get have op skills.
The only thing that I grew to hate is how the normal dodge is clunky unless you use the premium evade from the 1h sword.

>>716444554
>In what way?
Have you played LoP? Dodge, block, parry are all incentivized in equal measures and which defense is best highly depends on the attack situation. For example, if you block you'll take damage but you can regain your hp with the rally mechanic - BUT you also take weapon damage which may break your weapon, so that sense of risk reward is what I'm talking about. Some attacks like the red attacks (like kanji attacks in sekiro) are mostly parry checks (they cannot be blocked or dodged, though you can run away, but parry will increase stagger which can lead to a critical attack). Dodge is easy and great for positioning but doesn't build stagger. LoP will constantly test you on mastery of all these defensive options, in ways that feel satisfying. For example, KoP/Romeo, first phase is slow and heavy (low risk to parry, will wreck blocks), second phase is fast combos (high risk to parry but easy to dodge etc).

Wuchang, again so far because I haven't unlocked most options like parry, feels to me like it's really designed to incentivize dodging above other methods, since it's your core method while others are optional. Dodging is even more incentivized with the shimmer reward.

So I'm maining my axe, which has a block, and I'm barely using it, because it's just more convenient and easier and more rewarding to just dodge through everything. It's more repetitive and one-dimensional. AFAIK it doesn't have overall balance mechanics like red attacks for parry or health rally for block or risks like weapon degradation, etc. to go alongside the dodge shimmer, etc.

I prefer Wuchang world design but LoP combat (which has been my favorite at merging all the fromsoft concepts into one cohesive style).

>>716445323
sword counter feels fine and is very generous

>>716446503
The longsword parry felt like cheesing her and ming general.
>parry, counter
>run away
>they both have a single opener, they will always do it if your like halfway across the arena
>parry it, counter attack
>run away
Repeat. I think people fighting her are using the Axe, or one-handed sword etc and don't have clash or parry. Axe lifesteal build seems good but dual blade clash seems broken.

>>716446560
I beat all of LoP and it's DLC and had zero issue ignoring parrying entirely. Also you get skills that boost various defensive options so YOU chose which ones the combat is focused on by shaping your build. It's an RPG.

>>716446560
Axe gets some lifesteal shit that lets you just face tank through attacks, even boss fights.

>>716446396
>The biggest proof about that is the fact your "mana" is mostly built around dodgeslop
The game doesn't want you parrying enemies, specially the multi hit ones.

>>716446472
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>716446104
AI limit is more fun and has a better story

It's a shame you can't make your own character, i don't play as a woman

>>716446812
You either haven't played the game or you're like 2 hours in and it shows.

>>716435359 (OP)
7.5
>quest breakin exploration
see pic related
>no quick get up because enemies can wombo combo you off the ground
>feathering is another magic stat that only works on spells and doesn't scale on any weapon without tempering
>nonsensical doors where you can miss out on things without knowing
>only 3 total weapons per class unless you buy the dlc

about my only complaints so far

>>716446728
I feel like Wuchang might shine on NG+ and with the whole tree unlocked. I'll see. Sekiro first playthrough was my least favorite but it's the one I ended up replaying most. Being able to easily respec is nice, I hated how absurd upgrading weapons got in ER.

I think im gonna change builds my long sword build is little bit too strong

>>716446873
I accept your concession.

bros I can't beat the centipede...

>>716447008
he stun himself if you let him charge the big ass stones

kek every time asmon stutters his game camera does a 720 sweep. camera movement is tied to fps??

>>716439758
its supposed to be a shortcut back to shu yeah.
go down the direction you found the first polearm red eye guy down the steps from shu and follow that. can lead back to reverent temple too

>>716447008
respec into magic, dodge and throw the basic spell at it until it dies lmao

>>716435359 (OP)
7 at best, it copies every shitty element from soul games
shit story, shit quest design, retarded magic system, and roll slop

>>716446905
>and doesn't scale on any weapon without tempering
Some weapons come with feathering, but definitely not many.
>>716446941
I beat the tiger/general dude at the temple and swapped off Longsword, but I think Dual Blades are stronger. Parry is worthless IMO, too many enemies mix in martial arts that fuck you, or require you to parry the entire combo to get the single counter attack back. Meanwhile I can Clash through shit on dual blades.
>>716446905
I've definitely broken more quests in this than Lies of P or Khazan. Even with them showing people on a map, its just so damn easy to break a quest when the maps are so exploration heavy.

>>716447008
Learn to dodge, lil cuh xD

What other moves can clash yet doesn't say so?
I noticed the 1hand discipline that summons a tornado can actually clash during the first part.

>>716438472
keep saying it

When you're heading to the ice zone, in the cave between the starting zone and ice town there's a yellow item up on a ledge I could not figure out how to get to no matter what I tried. Do you come back to it from a different direction later or did I miss something?

>>716446905
i forgot pic

>fall of ledge to dodge the nigger insect and instantly die
Holy slop.

>>716447174
>Some weapons come with feathering, but definitely not many.
do you know which ones?
ive just been using ol reliable soul arrows for dungeoning but feathering seems to have the more useful tools for shit so im wondering what can even scale off feathering compared to the magic one hander

i used an spell and now there is a fucking meteorite in the middle of the plaza in the palace which doenst go away while fighting hongiu

>>716447406
Outplayed.

>>716447406
lock on + tight spaces = shit happens

>>716447357
That shit's so fucking dumb lmao it's like barely hidden too you can EASILY think it's just leading to a side path or something.

>the entire underground area bellow the temple
If this is the type of level design this game has to offer, I guess I will just drop it.

>>716447454
Serpent Fang Longsword, this one is pretty far in the game IIRC
Zhanlu One-handed sword, also far in the game

Astral blade one handed sword is also the only thing I have that has magic stat innately.

>>716447640
Pussy

So what’s the lore
>japs were mining and eventually found hell

? That’s it?

>>716447627
There's literally no option.
>dodge forward and get poison build up
>dodge backwards and get corruption build up
>dodge sideways and fall to my death
So I guess my only option in not engaging in combat and just run past every enemy?

>>716447640
wassup with it? about to go there, think im done with all the shit surrounding the temple.

>>716447357
>>716447629
Its been long enough that I forgot that junction, but I failed getting the true ending here >>716440693

Felt VERY fucking dumb
>talk to dude
>talk to girl, she gives me items to give to dude
>talk to dude, won't accept my shit

Where the fuck is the kid on this map?
i got some bowl of him

>>716447640
>struggling with Blight Town for babies
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>716447740
prob some depiction of covid 19. chink games always like that. someone made a bat virus and it caused avowed-like shit to grow on people and turn them into call of duty zombies. not much more to it.
t. 300 iq, knower of all

>/v/ has been crying about how Soulslikes are all about combat these days and lack the exploration DS1 had
>a couple of Soulslikes focused on the exploration and world interconnectivity come out (LotF 2023, Wuchang)
>/v/ reaction: "meh"
This board is nothing but hypocrites.

>>716447751
Gravity, two type of status damage that will build up extremely fast (I literally backstab an enemy and the animation pushed me into the corruption gas) and annoying stunlock screaming enemies (this one can be dealt with with a pendant, at least). Not having a good time.

>>716447901
You forgot AI Limit

>>716447923
>literally backstab an enemy and the animation pushed me into the corruption gas
So don't do that?

>>716447818
Who said I am struggling? I already beat it. It's shit and if that's the level design I can expect it, the game is not for me.

>>716448028
You clearly did struggle since if you didn't you wouldn't be complaining about it. Beating it doesn't change anything you know.

Combat and bosses are decent, level design is ok, I want to fuck Wuchang.

7/10 it's ok, wouldn't pay 40 bucks for it

It's pretty fun.
I don't like rating games anymore because at this point I just want to have fun.
I'm having fun ergo it's a good game.
Like that they unironically have a lot of fashion sets and I also like sphere grid leveling.
Kinda weird the game doesn't have a CN sub though. I can't decide if JP dub for a Ming Dynasty game breaks my immersion or not.

>>716448104
>level design is ok
Stopped reading right there

>>716435359 (OP)
It's a solid 8.5 on gameplay but a 4 on story. Im mad that the cucked Xia siyuan only allow Han Chinese be killed. Meanwhile the main character is on the Qing side (manchu outsider) to kill Han chinese, (ming soliders and rebels). It's so fucking retarded. I want to kill shitskins and those fuckin bastards so much. I would nuke them if i can. But no i can't. IGN gives it an 8 because of that crap. Also it's likely this company is funded by non-han outsiders too. Even though most of the gameplay is done by han chinese. Just like most of the chips are done by han chinese. There always be a kike or a shitskin pajeets or an outsider overrepresenting it. I hate it. Fuck this game.

I wish there were maps already drawn cause I am getting lost in the area around Shu Temple, I opened some two shortcut gates and I can't find them again

>>716448076
>You clearly did struggle since if you didn't you wouldn't be complaining about it
are you retarded?

>>716448005
>don't do a simple core mechanism otherwise the game will fuck you up, not because it's not suited for the situation, but because the design is bad
Genius.

>>716447923
sounds like fun. guess u gotta stock up on anti-corruption and poison consumables before going there. i saw a couple of those in the madness shop.

>>716448207
Getting lost is part of the fun, retard.

Wukong vs Wuchang: only time will tell which was the best Chinese soulslike game whose title starts with "Wu".

I feel like im the only person using magic/one handed sword

>>716448252
Yes, which is why the level design is GREAT, not just ok. Dumbass. You misunderstood the direction of my criticism. You're underselling it, not overselling it.

>>716448076
What kind of gay ass logic is that, lol? You don't need to struggle to kill a cockroach to don't like it. It's a shit area, that's all, chinklover.

The mine and Doomwillow Beach seemed to be design with the intent to make you suffer and drop the game.
Then that fucking tree boss was literally insulting.

>>716448308
im probably gonna respec and try something else out

>>716448252
>wasting my time is part of the fun
And I'm the retard. Sure, pal.

>>716447650
interesting then. im only at the end of snow outskirts after i killed the big guy and have to now fight other guy.

thankfully theres respecs. one of the major positives i can give the game

>>716448235
>>716448347
Ok genius then why don't you describe your criticisms in detail. You absolutely wouldn't say something like "dealing with x was annoying so level is bad" right? You can do that for me right?

>>716448243
If that's your thing, go for it. I despise this shit. Also there's enough items around the area, not really necessary to buy anything.

>>716448308
its pretty fucking lame but works well. theres nothing cool to get in the tree when u obtain the first spell that autogrants spell charges

>>716448308
>>716448410
Is it good? I've been using longsword the whole time. I saw people say dual blades are good but to me they feel like shit. Maybe for mid-late game after respecing to get more useful skills.

>>716448308
its weak and its about the only magic weapon and feathering has all the cooler shit so its kinda boring after awhile.
good for exploring though

>>716435359 (OP)
I got bored, I'm not really invested into the world or the characters and everything looks generic.

It ain't perfect but yeah I've been enjoying it so far too and shit for $50 I'm happy
AI Limit felt like a steal at $35 at times

>>716448242
Yes, don't be a retard. Imagine actually complaining that you moved into the poison gas and the poison gas poisoned you, do you need safety barriers around them or something?

Who the fuck is the Taoist Priest at the Refugee Camp?

this nigger above me is getting filtered by some content so hard that he vents by shitting on others here lmao, so funny

can someone post screenshots of the areas where you're supposed to NOT go into YET or you'll break quests

>>716446454
The more generous parry windows got patched in later. They were identical at launch.

>>716448623
>Imagine actually complaining that you moved into the poison gas
I didn't, nigger. Did you read the post? Are you literate enough for that?

>>716448442
Already did.

>>716448761
Yeah, okay buddy. You definitely didn't use an attack that moved you forward into the gas at all, that was the game doing it all on it's own. Infact that gas actually moved closer, I saw it with my own eyes.

>your tits vibrate when going down the bumpy mineshaft elevator
Based

>>716447781
Turn around from the bonfire. Hug the right, go through the first building and up the ladder. If you remember the area well, leaving the house you should remember there is another ladder right infront. From up there, go left. You know you went the right way when you see two cannons shooting at you. The kids is in a house behind those cannons

>takes 5 million years to get up
>takes 5 million years to recover from stagger
>takes 5 million years to climb up a ladder
>takes 30 BILLION years to finish bonfire lit animation
this game is just so sluggish man

>>716448410
>>716448526
>>716448528
>>716448542
damn that sucks, I always like being a wizard in games...

>gray
>foggy
>speedtree
>quixel rocks
certified unreal engine vidya

>last area
insufferable

>>716449017
I wouldn't go that far, but this is the game where I've definitely noticed sprinting isn't THAT much faster. Like I should be going much faster when I am expending stamina.

>>716435359 (OP)
>DS1-level design, but even more tedious
>the worst boss design in any Souls game
>very braindead easy game for the most part
>you can cheese almost every enemy encounter or just run past and skip it
3/10

>>716448308
>Admitting to using magic in a Souls game
Oh no oh no who's gonna tell them?

>>716449118
i used magic exclusively in ds1, 2, 3, and I will happily do it in any game im able to, i like casting shit

>>716449157
same. swinging is dull as fuck. every weapon i tried in ds3 was the same unless u blew mana on weapon farts

>>716449090
>the worst boss design in any Souls game

disagree. Dark soul series and wulong are the worst.

>>716449090
>rates games when they dont even play them

>>716448939
>enemy is with its back for me, open for an backstab
>I do, from a safe distance
>the ANIMATION pushes me forward, leaving me over the gas until the slow animation is done
>this is somehow my fault and not the game's design
Lol. There isn't a playerbase more faggot than this one.

>>716448207
i know you lack of braincells to read that much.

>>716443345
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2522183327?t=06h09m03s
guess its intentional kek

>>716448963
thanks, he was there
how the fucxk they expect me to figure this out?

>>716435359 (OP)
Anyone thinking wuchang sucks is a shitskin.

>>716449391
I want to see his gameplay and the gameplay of a lot of the retards in here as well

>>716435359 (OP)
8/10
Every souls game is identical, however they are all fun.

>>716449391
You're not fooling anyone, chinkchang.

>>716449368
No clue, there was nothing about that house the first time through that made it seem important. Its just running around.

>>716449506
hey shitskin, go back to your shithole

>>716449506
Neither are you Ranjesh cause if you actually looked into anything you'd find out that the biggest haters of this game ARE the Chinks.

>>716449334
>be outside the gas
>do an animation that puts you in the gas
>somehow this is the game's fault

>>716449550
Learn how to write, Chang. You're barely trying to hide your slanted eyes.

>>716449593
You too, yellowman.

>>716449609
>do an animation
I didn't do shit, nigger. The shitty game designers did. The backstab animation is out of my control, but I am glad you understand that now.

>>716449682
at least im not a shitskin like you.

The hitstop in this game is so bad that if I am not constantly looking at my HP bar I will die without even knowing why.

>>716449764
Indeed, the developer's possessed your right arm for a brief moment and pressed the attack button, forcing you to backstab that enemy and inevitably die. Truly a tragedy.

>>716449391
>Anyone thinking wuchang sucks is a shitskin.
fat mutt with severe yellow fever hands typed this

>>716449812
>at least im not a shitskin
Neither am I, lol. Good job confessing and exposing yourself, Chang.

>>716449879
Retarded?

>>716449967
go back to your shithole, spic.

>Neither am I, lol.

>>716450010
nta, it's a real problem

>Just learned that this game exists
I can't speak on the gameplay, but the protagonist's design looks to be on the generic side as coomer protags go.

>>716449996
no, your genes are shitskins. So you are a shitskin doesn't matter how many bleach you washed on your face

>>716449886
>the developer's possessed your right arm for a brief moment and pressed the attack button
Nope, but they did design an animation that will fuck your position without any reason, so that's somehow worse. A tragedy indeed, but slop will be slop.

>>716450010
Yes, the game is.

>>716450084
No, it isn't. You're saying you're so stupid that you cannot make the connection that you have been hit because the game doesn't grind to a halt when it happens.

>>716450094
>doesn't matter how many bleach you washed on your face
Holy ESL, kek. Settle down, Chang.

I really fucking hate the jar lady demon mimic thing. At least it doesn't respawn.

I know what you are

>>716435359 (OP)
It looks fun but the PC version is absolutely FUCKED.
Why is it FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE, to jsut play the game at natice res with no bullshit going on?????????????????
There is no option to jsut use regular 1440p, natice res. I'm on a 4080 super and it looks like blurry shitmess no matter what settings I use. default is 50% res.
This generation of pc gaming is FUCKING DEAD TRASH NIGGER SLOP SHIT FUCK YOU NIGGERS FUCK YOU DIE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
WHY THE FUCK DD I BUY A 4080 SUPER YOU CAN;'T EVEN MAKE A FUCKING GAME THAT RUNS NORMALLY? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? YOU FUCKING OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING TO CHINA OR INDIA SO THEY FUCK IT UP SO ITS NOT PLAYABLE. ITS 2025 NIGGERS CANT MAKE A FUCKING PC GAME??????????? DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE NIGGERS DIE

>>716450257
nah, you aren't english either, brownoid.

>>716450245
Your character barely moves on gives off any indication you were hit depending on the enemy attacking it. Stop being a chink cum-slurper and learn to recognize the game have some problems.

My evil clone is very sexy. I love maxing madness just to see her.

>the dlc sword has lvl 5 magic scaling and does actual magic damage
fuck off why would they do this. fuck 505 they always make devs do scummy shit like this

>>716450359
>you aren't english
Lmao.

>>716450342
>got spoiled because i watched one of those "5 beginner tips you should know before starting!!!" slopvideos because of course those retards cant just give basic tips like just explain the convoluted UI without spoiling secret surprises
my fault for watching one of those in the first place

>>716450351
I agree. I detest this vaseline graphics age. Every screenshot in these threads look the same. Blurry.

>>716450413
why does the white robe guy say its his clone?

This game really feels like Stellar Blade 2.0. Not in terms of the actual game itself but in the absolutely blatant tranny hate campaign being pushed on /v/ unrelentingly.

oh dear

needs to be remade with wuchang

>>716450463
>he thinks i look like that, a negrofiled yellow man

KEK

>lets put a slow elevator you have to rewind before the boss
jesus, the devs just want people to be angry at the game

>>716441000
Kek

>>716450472
They made the first one too easy to spot, you can immediately tell what is going to happen. Luckily they quickly remedy that.

>>716450615
BONER

>>716450591
nothing like stellar blade. Stop acting like a fuckin schizo.

>>716450685
That's exactly how you look like, Chang. The fact you're so butthurt is proof enough, lel.

I knew I was pretty far ahead cause of the thread but damn most people aren't in the latter stages yet. Glad the game landed on my day off. Ill finish it after work tomorrow

>>716451004
how am i butthurt? I look def better than one thousand shitskins like you.

ZABITO BOGA

>>716451249
You're a little chink with tiny cock, slanted eyes and malnourished body. You don't look better than anyone, lol.

>>716450615
Do you have to farm the female knife crime enemies for that outfit?

>>716451346
Why are you so gay? My dick size is perfect fine. Fucked more women than an average shitskin.

>1 nigger filtered by a poison cloud
>the other fell into water and then got fucked by his double
>now both shitting on each other
xDD

>The blue feathered zombie guys make the same noise as the hidden Ravens you get feathers from
I love little lore details like this

>>716451423
>My dick size is perfect fine.
Kek.

Not sure what weapon to pair with 1h Sword.

>>716451405
secret thats missable if you choose wrong option

Axe seems OP

>>716451539
why you think about dick size that much? Shitskins love to do dick prolong surgery just because a tiny black dick is the worst can be right? That's why over 60 percent of dick prolong surgery are done to shitskin like you. Meanwhile my dick is a perfect 6 inches. Lost my virginity in highschool. Body count 28 so far. What about yours? I can make women cum and squirt. Meanwhile a shitskin had zero achievements in everything and also zero achievements on genetics. KEK

>>716451745
Axe, Dual Blades and Longsword all seem good. I've seen no proof that spears are that level, and one-handed sword is basically just for spell casting.

>>716451539
remember shitskin, you 7 billion still can't make a decent game. Cant make a decent anything. Can't create anything in history. Oh no no no.

>>716451604
None of the other weapons reaaaally fit all that much, 1h sword is pretty much the mage build so you probably want to invest more heavily into the generalist tree than the others since near the end there's a bunch of big magic/feathering stat clusters.

>>716451919
>and one-handed sword is basically just for spell casting.
so i should treat it like a staff and most of my damage comes from spells and basically ignore attacking with it?

Wtf enemies fight each other too

>5 weapon types
>3 of them are just sword, big sword, two swords
I'm so fucking tired of swords, why can't any devs out there think of anything more creative

>>716452127
Apparently you can kill yourself near strong enemies to get the demon phantom to fight them

>>716452050
Its the only one with passive skyborn might gain, so while you should still do it for melee just know all the shit should really go towards spending on spells. There is a nice big magic stat node far left of the main tree from the center.

>running into that big fucker in the jungle
kino

>go to cloudspire like the game leads you to
>NUH UH you fucking idiot you were supposed to go to the outskirts first now that you stepped in the entrance of cloudspire your run is bricked
this is fucking shit

I think I'm gonna restart with a non-mage build. Feels like a crutch throwing missiles at everything from afar.

>schizo Wuchang is hotter than sane Wuchang
what did changs mean by this?

>>716452293
Halberd is arguably easier even than that, you just super armor through everything.

>>716451604
Spear is probably the best fit because they both generally rely more on dodging skills, but spear also has easier access to the other mechanics like Clash too if you need. You'll basically replace Aerial Bulwark with the magic related dodges for it.

>>716452050
>basically ignore attacking with it
Nah, you should always be attacking. Use Alacrity to keep up basic attacks and protect yourself during heavy attacks, sling spells in between.

>>716452050
If you power Feathered you can hit hard with instant charged attacks and the swing that scales with Feathered (the one that emits white wings).

A lot of bosses are not going to give you much time to cast. At least when you get the passive that give you auto-dodge on some spells.

>>716452272
funny joke

Why does spear get it's sky charges from using skills without having sky charges so I can use skills with sky charges? This feels really dumb.

>>716435359 (OP)
id rate it a 32% based on 17,857 reviews

>>716443760
>Great Sage Lord Seventh has ascended several inches above the ground and is intangible to the touch of those below the Nineteenth Dang.

>>716435359 (OP)
Asmongold says it's a 6 or 7

>>716453076
It's sorta like 1h, but you store them up instead. Melee > Charge > Burst damage > repeat, seems to be the go-to.

>>716451537
was gonna say the exact same thing man
did you notice the huge buddha carved in the mountain

>>716453429
oh well if roach man says it

I can go to
>bloody door with a crying female behind it (must be a boss)
>a small bridge that leads to a sort of spooky forest?
>a large bridge down a hill
>the temple mechanism (priest key)
does one choice here brick quests?
how will I know if I make a bad choice

Is there a drawback to going feathering build? Considering it's a disease I feel like it's gonna fuck me over.

>>716453548
Lmao no, i didn't. Is that why the first place is called Buddha cliffs?

>>716453761
You're too early for any real bricking other than not fighting the bloody door boss, but this is 100% a follow every step of a guide to get the real ending game.

>>716453429
Meaning it's an 8

>>716449031
i like spell sword shit too but the only way to buff your weapon is limited charges on a weapon per fest. i like more flame effects and shit on weapons but thats all tied to skills instead

>>716454035
Asmongold says Dark Souls 3 is a 9/10 and Sekiro is 10/10 lol

>>716453806

>>716452293
you can respec for free anon

>>716453845
does that mean I should or should not fight her now?

what bonfire is closer to the snow guys boss fight? rebel camp or what

>There’s a major point of no return: interacting with the Storyteller in “Region 3: Mt. Zhenwu – Zhenwu Altar” will lock out the 1st region.

>>716437626
god that armor looks like shit. i put back on the slut wear when i tried that set

>just die a shit ton to a boss figuring out its whirly onslaught moveset and then get madness so its a lot harder hehe

>>716454215
All optional bosses must be fought.

Havent got any new outfits since the pirate one the npc gave me. Just killed the corpse tree

>heres a boss who does 3 ground slams dont fuck up or else he can hit you on wake up too because you cant side roll out of shit
good game design

>>716454669
quit mashing the getup, retard.

>lashing whip
guess im respeccing from 1h sword to longsword

>>716454751
>dont mash
>get hit by the next attack anyway as you get up
the issue is no quick roll to sides which you should have known if you read my post clear enough

>>716454669
You can roll to the side.

>>716455092
QUICK RECOVERY
you still get hit
lies of p had this for fuck sake

>>716441570
>no pubes
They could be even more based

Give it to me straight: how bad does it run, and will I be hating life if I pick it up with my 6700xt and 5700x3d?

>>716455135
Not if you time it right.

>deflect boss
>hit him once
>goes into grab move
lmao

>SC Chinese 25% positive
>English 70% positive
Any reasons of why Chinese are mad at this game?

>>716455135
>BUT OTHER GAME
I agree, in a similar vein I think Wuchang should have a Nitrous button and a drift option too. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit has those and it really makes traversal a cinch.

>>716455442
is need for speed hot pursuit trying to copy another racing game?

>>716455379
looks like the japanese hate it too

Is deflection not for bosses? I havent used it for them but soldiers

>>716455379
https://alineaanalytics.substack.com/p/chinese-audiences-have-been-a-huge

>>716455379
>>716455508
i increasingly suspect chinese and japanese just have shit taste. they also rated expedition 33 poorly. if it isnt braindead p2w gatchaslop they dont like it

>watch female "souls streamer" for a bit
>she got stuck on centipede guy for almost 2 hours
...

How can people play these games all the time and still be so bad when they play a new one.

>woman
Oh, right.

>>716455442
thats the dumbest fuckin way to be smarmy.
you legit have nothing to say and are blindly defending souls chink clone number 11

>>716455586
People only watch MissMikkaa for her Swedish tits and very long hair.

>>716441570
tf are those hamburger bun sesame seeds on her skin

>>716455465
Yes, it was attempting to copy Diddy Kong Racing for the N64. Two identical games in the same genre that are aiming for the exact same gameplay.

>>716455685
It wasnt mikka, it was some american chick with red hair and really whiny voice/personality

>>716455710
you wanna be a little faggot you would compare diddy kong racing copying mario kart but they decided to not include a drift button

>>716454829
>Centipede
>Night Spectre
>Whip sword
Yup, it's edgelord time

>>716455586
Most "souls veterans" are dogshit at video games and only manage to beat souls games by mashing their head against a wall until they get lucky and win.

>>716442251
>>716443294
I'm stuck on this cunt now. Will try again tomorrow.
Her 2nd phase is unironically bullshit though. She never stops attacking even when you're trying to get back up or heal.

>>716443657
Spear doesn't have a counter, it's a dodge and you need to buy the variants to make it good.

>>716455959
thats literally how the humanoid bosses fight
i've mentioned many times how this game needs a quick recovery for this type of shit. otherwise you are whaling on you during your get up animation with no invincible frames and you get up slow as fuck. so you might as well count yourself dead

I refuse to believe there is boss harder than commander Hong, 1st phase was easy but 2nd phase was ,legitemely the most fucking disgusting thing i have seen to this day i have no idea how to dodge the teleporting cyclone ended up getting lucky with the staggers and just mogged her but i could easily been stuck for another 3 hours unless i respeced

>>716455585
>they also rated expedition 33 poorly.
Based Asians. They have good taste.

>>716443294
>beat commander hong
>had no temperance except the fire one
jesus christ what zone did i miss

>>716455379
This "Yuanxu Feather", which tried hard to avoid and whitewash the atrocities of the Qing Dynasty, shamelessly regarded the game as "The Last of Ming Dynasty".

Of course, the author of "Hunger: A Thousand Miles Tour of the Late Ming Dynasty" is also a "Unity Ren" deeply influenced by the idea that "national unity is greater than heaven" and "the Ming and Qing dynasties are as bad as the Ming and Qing dynasties". He always claims that his game is not for the "Emperor Han".

But a "Unity Ren" who at least admitted that "the Qing army massacred the city in the late Ming Dynasty and killed countless people" was the sequel to the "Ten Days of Yangzhou" tragedy, "Ai Hong: Diary of the City Break Ten", which set the game boss as Duoduo, Prince Yu of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and the "demon king, golden-winged great roll", and the game's group of monsters is the Manchu Eight Banners Army.

And what about "The Feather of Yuanxu"?He directly regarded the culprit of the Sichuan Massacre, the Eight Banners Army of the Qing Dynasty and the Green Camp Army of the traitor, as "undescribable forces" and avoided mentioning it!

Instead, Zhang Xianzhong's Western Uprising Army, who had born Li Dingguo and Liu Wenxiu, was regarded as the culprit of the Tuchuan Tushima?

——Just four words: [The heart can be punished]!

When it comes to the theme of the late Ming Dynasty, the unanimous demand of billions of players is to kill Qing Yao!Kill the Qing Demon hard!!The more Qing Yao kills, the better!!!

This is not because we do not admit the failure in history, but because the ultimate winner in history should be us, and the Qing Dynasty Eight Banners Robbers Group was completely destroyed!

Therefore, we should be the masters who comfort our ancestors and write the current history!Do you still need to worry about the face of the remnants of the country and the country that have destroyed the race?

>9,293 people found this review helpful

>>716456351
you get more by skillin them in the tree to the left

>wei tri
This only counts the specific weapon type discipline? Not all?

>>716435359 (OP)
Soulslop that does nothing new or innovative. boring as shit could have been made by AI

>>716443294
>beat commander hong without parries, deflections or clash just unga my way very slowly only using heavy attacks
>Realize fight would been much easier if i just respeced

>>716456370
Yeah Chinese netouyos are review bombing it. The good thing is, CCP is against Han nationalism, so they won't crack down on this game.

>>716456370
I don't think CCP ever allow them to be a fan of any China dynasty
I assume these mad Chinese on internet will be erased within a week

Cloudspire Outskirts is the worst area so far in all soulslike games. The amount of concentrated faggotry in that area is astonishing, even Blight Town wasnt that bad.

>>716443294
her being able to dodge out of the follow up and whaling on you as you wake up is my whole reason i fuckin ate shit so much

>>716456370
Is there a name for han-boos? Kind of like wumao for CCP dickriders

>second boss the priest
>grabs you and puts corruption on you
>throws you on a wall which fucks up the camera so you can't see shit on the followup
i love effectively 100% damage attacks

>>716435359 (OP)
5 hours in I'd say a 5/10 so far, pretty uninspired. Assume combat will get more complex eventually as it and the bosses thus far have been mind numbingly bad

>>716456630
>I don't think CCP ever allow them to be a fan of any China dynasty
They obviously allow them to exist like this but do not promote them. Their position is they were all feudal dynasties that ruled for themselves not the people. Whereas socialism means a government for the people.
Which is true btw, a White man's ideology whether liberalism or socialism, is superior to feudal Chinese Confucianism.

>>716456881
Yeah it's huanghan (imperial Han)

>love soulslikes
>love the time period
>game is slop

SUFFERING

I dont like mines

>>716457163
i hate landmines
im so glad im out of that fuckin area

solder w the red eyes was legit harder than the boss at the top of the tower lmao. More diverse moveset as well

This honglan bitch is teleporting across the screen

>just heard a streamer say he hates the layout of the new wuchang game
>lots of shortcuts
wait wtf is it actually the one soulslike to actually understand classic souls level design complexity and what makes it good? wtf? no way, thats literally the only thing yhat would make me play a soulslike because even modern fromsoft cant do it anymore.

i either need a big video essay to confirm this, or a /v/tard I can actually trust that also understands good souls level design.

heres my fit

>>716457508
It has interconnectivity, but I've found every area pretty bland

>>716444913
Wait what????

>>716450671
in reality
>empty corridor
>wall/floor explodes
>or you get shot by a canon from 100 meters away and 1 shotted
lol

>>716457508
The areas are very expensive (Not open world-style, it's very mazey) with lots of shortcuts and a metric ton of optional areas.

>>716447008
Fight the half naked monster girl first. Centipede is easy af afterwards.

>open a shortcut back to the starting temple
>but it's a shortcut to nothing, there's never a reason to use it
it's like someone read talking points, but didn't understand the why.

>>716457768
SHORTCUTS ARE SOULSKINO BRO!!!

>>716448224
There is only one correct path. All the others just circle back around.

why the fuck is it impossible to stay at low madness?

>>716457508
Just accept that nobody online has any clue what level design means, nor do they know anything about game balance or mechanics.

>>716457768
There are shortcuts that are useful and there are ones that don't do anything but exist and are kind of neat. They are probably not brave enough to not let you teleport like in DS1.

>>716446812
>The game doesn't want you parrying enemies, specially the multi hit ones.
Sounds like Dark Souls one, back when Parry actually had risk reward

Game has been bad enough to make me reinstall Black Myth Wukong to try again

>>716457760
Outskilled

>>716457508
correct essayfag, i confirm it's more ds1 level design than most

i don't understand the point in making wuchang's lines unvoiced

>>716457712
Expansive btw

>>716457909
later on you can buy the divine gifts

>>716457941
>don't let you teleport
>but you have to check on NPCs every single time you step forwards
wouldn't have worked

>>716457760
This is still doable.They really start adding bullshit by the end of the game (pic related)

Final boss runs away from you so much and starts spamming aoe attacks that cover half the screen.

7/10 I would say. +1 for the mimic bonfire, that shit made me laugh

Why can't we just get a good fucking soulslike set in China???

Khazan mogs this

>>716438472
>uh guys I cant play this I need to go back to the game I've been waiting a decade for I've got another 400 hours to spend on that game and 48 more videos on it to make

>>716458253
yeah im just glad to get past the landmine outskirts but yeah he eventually died to fire from my temperence

>>716458473
First boss in Khazan is more intricate than every single boss I've faced in this combined so far lmao

>>716457929
>Just accept that nobody online has any clue what level design means
I accepted that a long time ago, once i started finding out that a lot of people just use "good level design" to either mean "Its open dude haha le epic" or "The level just looks so...immersive or something".

I could go indepth in explaining every single facet that makes Dark Souls 1 level design unmatched to this day other than by the peak of Tomb Raider level design (offers enough meaningful depth in difference of centering exploration around a jump button, lots of TRUE verticality, not just the word as a buzzword meaning sometimes you walk up and down some ladders or some shit)
But ive explained it so many times that I kind of feel like it wont matter.

If anybody wants some understanding of what makes a good shortcut though I could link an old thread I wrote up about shortcuts.

>>716457712
>The areas are very expensive (Not open world-style, it's very mazey)
That actually sounds so good. Im glad you understood that "open world style" would be bad, because I just saw somebody earlier in this thread imply that "more open levels" is better than linear levels, when 90% of the only reason ds1 level design works, is because it is unashamedly linear. Meaning there IS a right way, and that right way HAS to be mapped out in your head.

My only worry is something an anon in a past thread brought up. In that I hope the level design isnt like Nioh, or Jedi fallen order where the game has a BUNCH of shortcuts but doesn't actually understand how to use shortcuts, so it devalues the meaning of shortcuts by having so many (Makes it about convenience rather than function or purpose)
>>716458050
I dont know how you knew it was me weirdo obsessed loser. Or how you even noticed out of the sea of posts here.

This mogs Khazan

>Wuhan Fallen Feathers
Are these chinks serious?

>>716458405
Cause Japan is better

>starting to realize a lot of people hate this game for being similar to ds1
>starting to realize that the people likening it to ds2 are trying to criticize ds1 without criticizing it
>starting to realize that means a lot of the reasons people seem to hate ds2, is for retaining the soul of souls that even shitty demon souls had, but with execution that was just DIFFERENT enough that retards could nitpick it while pretending they were loyal to ds1
hmm interesting. and im someone who hates ds2, but i have the right to, because I genuinely love ds1 and its my number 1 game ever.

...im not seeing the right to here though. i always knew the love of ds1 was fake, i just could never prove it, because everybody used the same buzzwords to affirm and praise it "interconnectedness", "non linear" (even though thats antithetical to what makes ds1 work and ds2 is objectively more non linear more immediately, and naturally)
hm.

Better combat than Elden Ring

>>716458551
The level design kinda gets bad at the endgame. The final area has good design and enemies but really shitty level design as it is basically one big area you run around and the issue is avoiding giant eye laser statues (...yeah)

>>716458551
>once i started finding out that a lot of people just use "good level design" to either mean "Its open dude haha le epic" or "The level just looks so...immersive or something".
It's worse than that, they often think it just means only the map itself. I'm not expert myself by any means though, but it gets really egregious sometimes when it's about a game I like. Go into an SMT thread and defend the SMTV levels if you want to get a bunch of people angrily telling you nothing.

Level design would have been god tier if
>every area had at least 2 or 3 new items instead of 1
>at least 2 unique enemy mobs that are native to said area
Right now you get maybe 1 new weapon and a big maybe for outfits, and the rest are just red mercury, consumables and upgrades. Unique enemies are either just encountered in one area of a very huge map, mostly to throw you off or a mini boss that doesn't respawn

It's a 7/10 for me in this regard. Would have been an 8 with if the game actually ran properly so I could enjoy the atmosphere because it does look really good at times

>>716458405
You already have 2

Is it true that you play as a Manchurian and all the enemies are Han Chinese in this game?

>>716458405
You mean wuchang?

>>716459285
Nah MC is a pirate

>>716459285
No. The absence of any manchus are what's pissing off the chinese. At worst, Wuchang is japanese. Because she's a pirate. During the ming dynasty, japanese, chinese and some SEA wukou pirates a big thorn on the Ming's side because they kept raiding China's coasts. Most of these wukou were of course japanese from Shikoku and Kyoshu.

>>716458912
It's literally bottom tier combat??

>>716458906
DS1 doesn't have enemies leaping in the air, delaying their attacks for a second and then doing a mid-air 180 to track you, fuck outta here.

>>716459438
What is?

>>716459438
Nah I like the combat better than Wo Long. If Wo Long, a game made by TN, has a maybe 6.5-7/10 combat, then this game has 7.5/10. AI limit has a 6/10 while Lords of the Fallen has 5/10.

>>716458957
>The level design kinda gets bad at the endgame. The final area has good design and enemies but really shitty level design as it is basically one big area you run around and the issue is avoiding giant eye laser statues (...yeah)
Yeah, I wouldnt be surprised, even DS1 couldnt maintain consistency of top tier level design the entire game, and the game I think has some of the best level design ever (Tomb Raider 3) is also notorious as a series (to me) for having inconsistent level design. I have no idea what it is about game devs that results in this. For the souls series ive just settled on the fact that DS1 was a complete and accidental fluke, sometimes bloodborne makes me doubt that, because its also the only souls game with good level design, and I consider it to basically be "What if Demon Souls was good" since it has the exact same world and checkpoint design, just slightly more interconnected.

So im not surprised if Wuchang doesnt stick the landing, but whats more important to me is consistency, and if the last level is literally the only actual inconsistent poor level, then I might buy this game literally right now. And it will be the first EVER soulslike I will ever buy for being a soulslike, and not just the aspects I can ignore as soulslike because games suck at understanding the substance and coherence of souls mechanics (to be fair I dont blame them when ds3, sekiro, and elden ring are the most popular souls games that completely bastardize souls)

>>716459014
>Go into an SMT thread and defend the SMTV levels if you want to get a bunch of people angrily telling you nothing.
What do you mean? I thought in my experience SMTV levels are actually fairly defended atleast on /v/ as classic dungeon crawling or whatever, sure ive heard people say a bit that theyre samey or repetitive, but more often people who criticize it get called filtered i feel.

>try to engage enemies instead of just spamming magic
>this kind of shit keeps happening
don't even bother dealing with this kind of dishonest shit

>>716458906
You don't need some convoluted reasoning, anon. People hated DS2 because they were told it was bad by people they trusted, they didn't think any deeper than that. The same is true for why people love DS1, this is how humans function. Including (you) and I. The reality is that both games are both heavily criticized for flaws and praised for excellent designs that are then presented as unique to each title, when most of the time they're present in both. For example, the criticisms of grab attacks.

Dogshit game. Playing as a woman is disgusting.

whats everyone doing with their aurum feathers?

>>716459997
Pop some once I start getting filtered by a boss

>>716459814
There's a lot of people in those threads who call the Da'at levels all identical, nothing but endless desert cities basically. No discussion of the actual layouts of the maps or anything like that, they're bad because sand. Ofcourse V does have a lot of fans talking about it too.

>>716459997
Not using them. I hate using rare consumables that cant be restocked.

>>716459465
Are you retarded? Do you only understand the likeness of something if its near exactly the same?
A better counter argument would be to point out something about the game that couldnt or wouldnt possibly exist within DS1 design because its antithetical, rather than pointing to something thats more indicative of modern souls design from the same guy that made DS1. Besides, lack of enemy tracking is like the biggest flaw of DS1's combat arguably because of shitters posting backstab loops on 4chan to trigger me. I would genuinely agree that generally Classic Souls enemies were very grounded. And enemies that close the distance too quickly or easily is not what id consider good souls combat...unless youre designing your bosses like Sir Alonne in DS2, which despite my dislike of DS2, its DLC bosses are the absolute EPITOME of classic souls combat and boss design. Game is shit everywhere else though unfortunately.

>>716460110
fuck off nigger, this shit game has zero similarities to DS1 other than the tired conventions of the genre.

>>716460056
they sell for much?

>>716458551
your writing style and points of interest are always the same and easily identifiable

bonfires are quite rare. shortcuts you unlock are actually fairly rare and give easier access to those rare bonfires, that also double as hubs for npcs. the bonfire to bonfire tension is quite high. maximized by estus being limited to 3 at the start. and there are so many branching side paths, branches within branches within branches, vertical layers etc it can get overwhelming to mental map and explore fully, branches often lead to dead-ends with optional content or loop back to other parts of the level so it's a bit non-linear. it's all intricately interconnected.

it does the classic lead back to firelink after a few hours moment but it's a bit hollow.
but there's one climatic shortcut to the second hub that is absolutely incredible in terms of tension relief and usefulness due to its location, and pretty neat with how its integrated in the map (for once its not just a locked door or an elevator but a bridge across two cliffs)

sadly it's all a bit ruined by having fast travel available from the start.

>>716459707
I beat it(took me around 12 hours) and I can say at some point the way level design and shortcuts work become very predictable and there won't be any wow moment (like DS1 elevator).

I got lost probably 3-4 times due to the way everything was looking the same.

The bosses are forgettable and some have an annoying tendency to be 2 phase ones but only after you kill the first.

I dislike the hyperarmor some enemies have, meanwhile once I get hit it is almost a death sentence against some enemies because they have follow-up while you are down.

There is a trinket that restores HP on trash kill and that got me through the game

At late game expect Elden Ring bullshit

>>716459876
>Including (you) and I.
Absolutely wrong. I am unironically built differently. Dont like to toot my horn inb4 a certain someone calls me a narcissist. But if you knew anything about me, and the type of threads I used to make on this board, or my lengthy spiels about souls, youd understand.

I was always skeptical of DS2 hate. And I went into the game with a bias to love the game. Unfortunately I am too principled to be biased. So I didnt like the game. But I didnt dislike it for the same reasons everybody else did. Simply put, the reason why DS2 is bad, is because the enemies are significantly stronger and smarter than literally ANY souls game (The aggro range alone is insane) And despite that, the DS2 character is the weakest character of all souls games save for maybe Demon Souls.
>For example, the criticisms of grab attacks.
If youre talking about what I think youre talking about, this is a sort of self fulfilling prophecy. Because DS2 was the most criticized souls game, and you gained the most social validation for criticizing it. People therefore were more keen and aware to record every single little problem it had, and thats why the perception of it having uniquely bad hitboxes is self reinforcing. Its like a collectively realized anecdote that was always fundamentally illegitimate, but because people unironically think the plural of anecdote is data, it gets validated.

>>716459816
>those ghostings
damn nigga, you play like this?

how many quests can you break in this game? i did 2 other zones before the main one...

>>716459816
"a tale of two adventurers"

>>716460042
Oh wait, i just realized youre talking about SMTV and not 4. I have absolutely no idea about anything related to 5, so I really truly cannot even pretend to comment on it. So i just dont know. But I think i generally agree with your point. Even though I hate DS2 and even its level design, the way people criticize its level design always suggests to me an arbitrariness to level design principles.

>>716460585
Oh here, here's captain dickass here to harp on video quality on something that has to be compressed under 4mb

>>716460606
>post something completely unrelated from the first area of the game
>heh, i am very clever

>>716460253
>sadly it's all a bit ruined by having fast travel available from the start.
I do think the fast travel is a double edged sword. There are parts of me that just want things to be done with, especially since modern souls games have conditioned people to just start farming stuff from a single convenient location.
On the other hand, the lack of fast travel would really add more tension.
That said, I think the addition of fast travel is a dev admission that they know the level design isn't good enough to warrant people back tracking a lot and would give you the option to simply skip to important hubs. I wish it wasn't the case since this was a missed opportunity to capture that early game DaS1 feeling of being genuinely lost in a video game. Not to say this game doesn't but they could have done better.

>>716460212
>other than the tired conventions of the genre.
this is how i know you dont understand ds1. there is nothing about ds1's original design that is an actual genre standard, nothing remotely, not even the appearance of estus, because youre a retard that doesnt understand the difference between appearance and substance, and the substance of ds1's estus has never been maintained ever again. just humanity alone is enough to make the difference

>>716460748
every ambush is the same, check every corner

>>716459816
shouldn't you at least turn your camera around to see behind the corner a bit

>>716460693
use vp9 nigger

>>716460606
That courtyard in Worship's rise is just full of ambushes which is why it gives you the option to go up the roof tops and see all the guys hiding on the roof waiting to jump you.

>>716460492
>Absolutely wrong. I am unironically built differently
The people who say they're immune to things like propaganda and social influence are almost always the most susceptible, and being aware of your own bias doesn't make you immune to it either. That's not to call you bad faith or incorrect by any means, that's just how people are wired. Doesn't matter if you're college educated and the top of your class or actually double digit IQ.

>youre talking about what I think youre talking about,
Right topic, but wrong point. I was just pointing out how most people genuinely don't have deep reasons for it because they don't know what the reality is, it is just preference and social cues driving them. I've done that before plenty of times myself and used to qualify posts with stupid shit like "DS2 is the worst souls game, but..."

>>716460420
>I dislike the hyperarmor some enemies have, meanwhile once I get hit it is almost a death sentence against some enemies because they have follow-up while you are down.
Ah man, if this is true I really hate this. I really despise this sort of design in modern action games. No respect for poise and therefore spacing, and positioning via first hits, and spaced hits for mini crowd control lose substance.
Noticed this a lot lately in so many action adventure games. Can really break a game.

you people are fucking bugs, not humans. pedantic cunts

>>716458405
This is as good of a "soulslike" as you'll get set in China. They can try making another one I wouldn't bother playing unless it really changes things like by being open world and having a shit ton of build options like Elden ring.

the game does well with city landscapes minus the outskirts

but if it goes to demon world then i dunno anymore

>>716460884
>Doesn't matter if you're college educated and the top of your class or actually double digit IQ.
See, thats where you misunderstand. I agree with you and actually think it has nothing to do with "intelligence" atleast percieved intelligence, I think it alot more to do with principles and values. And let me just say. You are not aware of how much I care about meaning, value, and perception.

I've yet to talk about it indepth, because its development has led me to lose faith in social discussion, but basically I developed a little theory for myself to help myself parse through narratives because I despise them and how they corrode the possibility of indepth honest discussion. Its not that I dont have biases, and not that I am "simply aware". Its that there are principles I have formulated, and ALWAYS APPEAL TO, independent of my feelings.

Anyway its probably too elaborate and complicated for you to understand, its not an intelligence thing, we just have different constitutions. Even intelligent people dont tend to understand. Im starting to think understanding has less to do with intelligence, and more with something else. Not necessarily emotional intelligence but anyway im rambling

>>716460676
Don't worry, I also mix up IV and V all the time. The Roman numerals, not the games.

>>716460891
Spacing is important here but as I mentioned, few enemies don't like to play by the rules like the tengus on the rooftops of the rebel camp or some of the super enemies (they have red eyes and don't respawn). Stamina, range, hyperarmor limitations are just suggestions to them. One of the soldiers with dual axes after the first temple was harder than the boss, wtf is this balance.

Tip: always have throwables

>>716460920
its a chinese game what else would you expect

>>716461408
Hm, this inspires me to make the thread i wanted to makr about the specific action adventure games i had egregious problems with poise, maybe ill found out my true problem with some discussion there

im tired of humanoid enemies having hyper armor
its so fuckin gay

>fucked up a riddle answer so I can't get a whole armor set now in a game where meaningful rewards are scarce as fuck
>actually have to fuck up the last one on purpose to get a bunch of endgame shit including a whole boss

>>716462101
>in a game where meaningful rewards are scarce as fuck
stop guys, youre making the game sound more and more appealing...unless its "scarce" like how elden ring rewards are mostly bloat so its rare you find something relevant or meaningful

>>716461227
Honestly I think the foggy graphics fit blightown and demon world better

I'm at the tang castle thingy, how many did I miss?

>>716462636
You can go back, all of the manna vase are in special golden chests that can be easily seen

Good game so far. Trash enemies can be pretty frustrating.

Which weapon type is your favorite so far, /v/?

>>716463186
>>716461136