Thread 716438506

>hear good things about this
>Emulate it
>The most horrendous controls I've ever fucking seen in a video game
This came out after Mario 64. How were they so retarded???.

>>716438506 (OP)
another day another zoomie filtered by classic game

>>716438506 (OP)
you don't know what bad controls are

>>716439020
Megaman Legends 3, whatever happened there

>>716438506 (OP)
>It's a "zoomer discovers tank controls episode"
AND STAY OUT!

>>716438506 (OP)
theres way worse controls out there, but i agree mml is particularly egregious for such a well remembered game. i feel like most people that talk it up only played it when they were a child with few options, and never again.

>>716438506 (OP)
>game controls like a modern PC game
>too much for zoomies
Weird timeline.

>>716439565
It's not tank controls, it's directional.

>>716439565
It's not tank controls zoomer

I played through it again recently, sure MML2 has improved controls but you're honestly a retard if you can't figure the controls out. It's really not too bad.

>>716439609
>modern PC game
what did he mean by this

>>716439849
You're being filtered by using the shoulder buttons to turn the camera?

>>716439992
those arent modern pc controls

>>716439849
wasd shouldn't be this hard for you

>>716439020
>classic game
It was considered shit back in the day. Only zoomers like it.

Home...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CixMfmKO7jc

>>716438506 (OP)
This was the era where YOU got good at the controlls are you just didn't play. Not this pussy shit we got today.

>>716438506 (OP)
>hear good things about this
mega man fans are literally insane and will recommend anything with the brand name attached to it.

It's a 6/10 game at best. And yes the controls are bad.

t. gen x.

>>716441901
>t.AVGN

>>716441210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HngjsPqC4os

>>716441901
HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PAST

Another retard filtered by tank controls.

Anyway, sex with Tron

>want to play this game every time I see pics of it
>anons keep warning me how dogshit it actually is
>never play it and pretend it is one of the best games ever in my head
thank you anons

>>716438506 (OP)
I don't mind the controls, but it's a children's game and cannot be enjoyed as an adult or even a teen.

>>716438506 (OP)
I emulated it like a year ago and just swapped the tank controls on the bumpers to the stick and it played just fine like that. Nip devs were retarded then (they are retarded now)

>>716442350
I replay it every few years or so. The controls are obtuse but not a dealbreaker. They feel nice to master even if the combat does eventually devolve into just running in circles with little threat of ever getting hit.
You should give it a fair shot one of these days. It's a SOVL overload

>>716439565
>>716442348
They're not even tank controls holy fuck I hate this place you people are retarded.

>>716439573
I played it blind just last month and loved it. What now?

>>716438506 (OP)
>>716439020

I still like the controls.
Game is maximum soul

>>716438506 (OP)
Never played a MegaMan game. Always was interested in Legends cause it's 3D and the artstyle is great. Just booted it up on Cuckstation. This game controls fine, you're just a fag.

>>716438506 (OP)
Literally the same controls as the first Kingdom Hearts. How is rotating the camera with shoulder buttons this hard for you?

>>716438506 (OP)
>>The most horrendous controls I've ever fucking seen in a video game
just move the left/rigth camera buttons from the bumpers to the left/right stick/dpad and it plays like a regular TPS game

the only thing you can't do is shooting while moving back or sideways, otherwise it's completely fine

I don't rotate the camera with the shoulder buttons, I use the strafe on shoulders config, always have, it's kino-esque
I play this game at least once a year, it's not the greatest game ever, in fact it's objectively mediocre, but I love it with all my heart and soul

>>716438506 (OP)
>The most horrendous controls I've ever fucking seen in a video game
you clearly haven't played a lot of video games

>>716438506 (OP)
The sequel is a bit better in this regard as it has a modern TPS control option. (left stick = move/strafe, right stick = aim)

>>716438506 (OP)
>old game has outdated controls
the zoomer mind cannot comprehend this

>>716438506 (OP)
NIGGA STRAFE
RUN NIGGA RUN
JUMP AND STRAFE AND SHOOT NIGGA

>>716446314
As opposed to what?
NIGGA ROLL
NIGGA ROLL
NIGGA ROLL

>>716438506 (OP)
Literally all you have to fucking do is strafe and the game is trivialized after. Retards like you are why they ruined it in the second game with the shitty half baked lock on system.

>>716446451
you roll a lot in mml actually, it's rollslop you might even say

>>716446314
listen to this man. The sidejump + shooting in the air maneuver is a must-learn

>>716442206
Man, I never realized MML2's Flutter theme was a remix of the first game's Flutter theme. Continuity like this is so based.

>>716445612
The game was definitely not built to accommodate that kind of control scheme. There is literally nothing wrong with the default layout and it complements the gameplay perfectly-- it's insane to me that people have so much fucking trouble with it.

>>716444789
>objectively mediocre
I definitely don't agree. The *only* arguably mediocre thing about it is the repetitive dungeon design. Even then, the sound direction is so good that it manages to make what is essentially just a bunch of corridors seem like a genuinely dangerous place.

>>716441210
Based

It boggles my mind that so many devs making 3d games saw Mario 64, played it, saw how groundbreaking the movement was, and still went "nah let's just make some dogshit fake tank controls"

>>716443223
>Literally the same controls as the first Kingdom Hearts.
No the fuck it isn't you dipshit
God that anon was right, Mega Man fans are fucking unhinged and desperately try to pretend their shitty game is on the levels of any other 3D title

It's unreal how tendies can only play two games and get confused by everything else

it just takes getting used to, but they are worse than today. dual sticks werent common yet

>>716448872
You have free movement and can rotate the camera with shoulder buttons in both games.

>>716450028
>Shows Mega Man moving in 4 directions
>Shows Sora running around in 360 degree movement
>"YOU USE THE SHOULDER BUTTONS FOR THE CAMERA SO THEY ARE THE SAME"
I can't with Zoomers

>>716450321
you're right, he's wrong, but he'll say some retarded seething 3rd worlder spew, but just know you're right

I'm still fucking mad about Legends 3.

>>716442825
Yeah they are.

>>716450561
It's a shame the fans weren't interested :(

>>716450321
>this is 4 directions
Boy I love when stupid little zoomies pretend to have played old games.
>>716450503
Nice samefag. I'm the one who's right though. You stupid fucking zoomers hate on MML for no good reason and claim its all tank controls even when its literally fucking not.
Ask any one of you faggots why you think the controls are bad, first thing you'll do is call it tank controls.

>>716451273
i'm the 2nd guy, i like mml but you're a retard, first of all, that isn't 360° movement, nor is it 2d controls, which kh is
tank controls (3d controls) are controls that are always player-relative, which is what megaman legends has, same as god hand
you may kneel now (or keep doubling down like the retarded thirdie you are, idc i won't read your reply)

>>716451273
Show me Sora running diagonally
Cmon now, they're the same so cmon

*sips*

>>716451434
>that isn't 360° movement
I never claimed it was, I said they control the same, and reiterated that both have free movement and a camera that can be rotated via shoulder buttons.
>nor is it 2d controls, which kh is
What the actual fuck are you talking about, KH is literally a 3D game, now you're just truly outing yourself as a complete retard.
>tank controls (3d controls) are controls that are always player-relative
Tank controls are where you can only move forward and back, and turn or veer left and right, hence the fucking name. Resident Evil games are the perfect example.

>>716451456
How stupid are you? You think Sora can't run diagonally?

>>716451434
>tank controls (3d controls) are controls that are always player-relative, which is what megaman legends has
You're genuinely stupid and wrong.

>>716451818
>How stupid are you? You think Sora can't run diagonally?
I said show me.
Show. Me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cNIkAMK4Pc
it's a disgrace what they did with the localization however

The KH and MML control schemes are fairly similar but what KH has that MML doesn't is an adaptive camera that tries to reorient itself. In MML, the player has to put more effort into controlling the camera via the shoulder buttons, which evidently is too much for some people.

>>716438506 (OP)
You just described every highly rated PS1 game ever

>>716450561
I will NEVER forgive Capcom for cancelling MML3. To this day I haven't purchased a single Capcom game since

>>716452257
And N64 too

>>716451874
Wow, the guy who can move in more than 8 directions can move in one of the 8 directions! Who would have thought it was possible!?

>>716452337
based grudge holder

>>716452492
Thank you
I hope by that webm you can realize how stupid you were in your claim that MML and KH have the same controls

>>716452349
Nah, N64 games all had timeless controls

>>716439020
Legends was panned, there's a reason you couldn't get anyone but contrarians here to back 3.

I just flip the strafe and turn buttons and play it as if it were tank controls. Yes I know the camera changes, I don't care. I'm steering mega man and going forward and backward along the way I'm facing. L1 and R1 are used to circle strafe around enemies and that's it

>>716452920
They do have the same controls in that they have the same free movement and camera control.
They only differ when you go into what the face buttons do and all, but you know damn well the movement and camera is what the topic of this thread is about, its what EVERY thread bitching about MML controls is about.

>>716452946
Must be why no one uses M64's shitty controls then.

>>716453285
Every 3d game uses Mario 64's controls Mega cuck

>>716438506 (OP)
>oh I want to play this old gMe but OOHH its so clunky
Im glad a dumbass like you got filtered by tank controls

>>716453459
None of them do. Nintendo themselves dropped it for future 3D Mario games. Why are you so stupid? Did your single mother buying you a N64 for Christmas fuck your brain up this much?

>MML thread devolves into some tendie throwing a tantrum
These threads are sacred ground. Leave us.

does the n64 version control better?

>Not a single suggestion of changing the controls
What is wrong with you people?
Go to options and swap turning to left and right, strafing to L1 R1
It fixes the fuck out of the game.

I truly cannot imagine not doing that.

>>716453604
Yeah you're trolling
Ok

>>716453668
But anon, the zoomers HATE tank controls.

>>716453668
Mega Man fans are unhinged
They have a weird purist mentality, I guess mad because nobody thinks about their series anymore

>>716453741
>n64tendie
>he's retarded
Yup, checks out.

>>716453827
Ok

>>716453786
Legends is one of my all time favorites, but I've never gone more than like an hour with the default controls. Even when I was 5 I knew to change that shit.

>>716453786
>They have a weird purist mentality
I've never seen anyone talk shit about changing the controls. People often say to bind dash to a shoulder button in X.
Of course I play with the default though. Had no clue you could rebind controls as a kid and I just got used to having my thumb cover 3 buttons at once to the point that its comfortable and I even change some games like Cuphead and 20XX to play like that.

>>716438506 (OP)
I was able to play this game perfectly fine and enjoy it when I was eight. What's your excuse? Are you dumber than an eight year old child?

>>716454347
You probably are dumb yeah

>>716452337
Pathetic.

>>716438506 (OP)
The controls aren't great, but that pales to its biggest problem, which is shitty level design.

>>716453668
But anon I already said that

>>716455646
it's called having principles anon. I bought a fucking 3DS just for this game

>>716452337
Based.

>>716443026
Congratz on your transitioning sis!

>>716452949
>Journalists have retarded takes
Yes, nothing has changed

>>716456510
>He didn't preorder a game but preordered a console
Fucking kek

>>716453128
You already got BTFO.
kill yourself now brownie!

>>716456974
I preordered a DS for Lunar Dragon Song. I loved SSSC and Eternal Blue and couldn't wait for the new one. The wave of nausea and disappoint that flooded over me as I was playing it for the first time was unbelievable. It's the single most shameful thing I've ever done

>>716451482
This shit is never going to be released, I have given up already on this Ill straight up pirate it if it comes out

>>716457058
I'm white as a sheet. Now go kill yourself, pajeet.