Train your archers NOW

This except with Wolt

>>716458105
There is nothing that Wolt can do that Dorothy can't do better

>>716458146
Support Roy.

>>716458105
The only way I'll train Wolt is by playing dodge the fighter. He loses more than he wins, though

Who do you reclass into a bow user in fe12? The default options suck

>>716458226
>wasting the main lord's support with Lilina or Sophia or Larum or your cav bros

>>716457821 (OP)
>>716458025
i already did. i wanted her to be like michelle from ROD, but hair and dress options do not match

Why are FE archers always either shit or busted?

>>716458338
Youtubers have conditioned FE fans to hate 2 range even though Sniper is consitently one of the best classes in the series

>>716458338
Which ones are busted? I don't think Bows were that good until Fates at least. FE6 is probably the best example before then, Klein and Shin are very good and there are a lot of annoying beefy Wyverns in this game. Maybe FE4 for the next strongest Archers, but they're still kinda weak in the context of their own game. One Archer in FE10's worth lugging around for the Double Bow eventually but it's not busted given the availability and lackluster performance beforehand.

>>716457587
More please

>>716457247
Food lmao isnt even that controversial. Ylliana after all is more relevant than 80% of the cast.
Sure Chloe is not 3H character but people like her enough to get art of her.

>>716457821 (OP)
i feed lots of xp to etie when i do tikis paralogue, and without fail she ends up terrible. at least rebecca ends up good and is cuter.

Cutesythea

Marriage with Marianne!

>>716458723
She wouldn't wear a dress like that

>Sniper is consistently one of the best classes in the series

>>716458821
PoV: (You) hearing the truth for the first time

>>716458723
>no eyebags
It's shit.

>>716458927
>PoV: (You) hearing the truth for the first time
from his point of view he sees a retard getting sucked into a jar?

>>716458983
Anon really didn't think that one through.

>>716458983
>>716459025
He is an archerfag, after all

newfag here. I finished Awakening the other day and just got to act 4 in Echoes. what do I play next? as of now I think I'll do fates next to finish up the 3DS then 7+8

>>716459075
That sounds fine. Fates will be familiar since it builds on Awakening's pair-up system.

>>716458632
SoV archers come to mind, and bows are really good in 3H too

Why are thieves/assasins and archers in FE usually so SHITE? Those classes tend to be beasts in other SRPGs

Ivy

>>716458610
The actual good class hated by ecelebs is armors.

>>716459152
Fire Emblem likes its squishy critical utility units.

>>716459152
>Thieves
Utility class, they're meant to be bad in combat to balance them out
>Archers
Depends on the game, but it's generally that ranged combat has harsh competition and they often struggle to offer something more than your other ranged options. Plus, unpromoted archers were given horrendous stats in several games for some reason.

>>716459152
Because in a 1990 Famicom game, the template for all future Fire Emblem games was established, namely str/def are king, enemy phase combat is king, high movement is king - all things archers and thieves tend to be poor at.

MAMACITA

>>716459207
I think that Armors are decent for the way that most people play, which is deathball slow pushing, especially in the games where the movement penalty compared to other units is not as harsh or they can get a horse.

the miss rate in Echoes is driving me fucking insane, bros

>>716459207
Have armors ever been good?

>>716458278
any of Palla/Catria/Caeda are good depending on the situation

>>716459635
one knight is often good to have, and great knights are usually great.

>>716459635
Yes, people just pretend that every good armor is an "exception case" for some unfathomable reason

>>716459635
Draug's alright in FE3. FE4 and 5, hell no. FE6, I read a comparison that shows that Bors and Barth are actually pretty decent units promoted with the first Knight's Crest. But they're not better than Alan or Lance, so you'd have to be insane to even consider this. FE7, Oswin is good. FE8, Gilliam's good. FE9, Gatrie's alright. FE10, not really. DSFE, Armors are a pretty great class actually. Mega shit in Awakening. Benny is like a really shitty Xander if you baby him to Wary Fighter in Conquest.

>>716459635
oswins a genuinely great unit that has to live in the shadow of marcus, sain, hawkeye and harken.

>>716459903
>Barth
>pretty decent
FUCK NO. Low skill and luck in FE6 - the game notorious for its shit hit rates - is a recipe for disaster. Almost literally no one can rescue him, so he's stuck walking everywhere. Bors isn't much better, but at least he gets luck. He can get noodle armed with bad RNG though.

>>716460287
>Oswin hitching a ride with Marcus while they banter about the damn youths who can't keep up
>Marcus deposits him in a choke and rides off to solo the other half of the map

>>716460431
I did read this comparison a very long time ago. I mostly remember it for the silliness of how well they performed even in Axe spam land. It's probably more theoretical than practical.

>>716459903
dalsin is bad in the long term but he's good for a bit, like a jeigan of sorts
xavier isn't outstanding but he's a staple team member
much better than bors, barth, gilliam

what about fe2? your armor took 1 damage and hit back hard, with some lion head boosts you could even double

>>716460450
too bad marcus can't rescue oswin after promotion

>>716460626
I actually haven't played FE1 or 2 so I can't comment on those. I guess I did play Echoes which I've heard is faithful, I thought Armors were OK there. I did want to go a bit more into FE5 because the armors they aren't anywhere near as bad as Ardan or Hannibal is in FE4. I'll give you Bors and Barth but I think Gilliam has better long-term potential than Dalsin. Xavier is decent but you get him very late at a point where you have plenty of strong combat units already. He's still a decent deploy.

>>716459903
>Bors and Barth are actually pretty decent units promoted with the first Knight's Crest
Dooming your actually good cavs by wasting the first knight crest is completely retarded and Barth is still shit anyways
>FE8, Gilliam's good.
One of the worst units in sacred stones. Marisa and Amelia are the only units I can think of that save him from the bottom spot.

>>716459903
effie and louis are both good

>>716461210
I don't really want to bring up Effie because she wants to get out of the class as soon as possible. That's not to say she's unusable as a General, she's built for OHKOs and the class is fine as supporting that, but her stat spread has much better prospects elsewhere. She's good, I agree. Louis I think is really damn good. Give the man a Greatlance and he can OHKO a good amount of shit for nearly the entire game and his bulk's great as long as you manage his match-ups. I used him on my second run and I was surprised at how good he is.

>>716461428
louis has the good fortune of lance general synergizing amazingly with sigurd emblem

>>716461194
>Dooming your actually good cavs by wasting the first knight crest is completely retarded
If you really wanted to, you could completely forego using unpromoted cavs and just ride Marcus, Zealot and Percival the entire game.

>>716461728
You can also think about it as promoting a disposable unit early to help them contribute while your Cavs are leveling. The next Crests are at 13 or 15 depending on route, then 16 and 16 also has a Secret Shop. So you can promote an Armor there and if you need more Crests you can get them later.

Armor knight < aroma knight

>>716461842
This would be a good idea if the fe6 armors weren't so bad. I typically early promote a cav as a disposable unit and bench him later on. You can train the over cav for the next crest.

>>716461983
Have you ever done bumsex with a cute girl? I would like to one day. I want to try bumsex. Like imagine? I think all my neighbours do that stuff.

https://youtu.be/biA8Wfvxz-I?si=1XJg9TELFvxya2oH

>>716462019
Yeah, the idea is fine, it's the units that are shit. Promoting whoever is worse between whichever Cavs you're using is definitely a better bet.

>FE8, Gilliam's good.
why do people keep trying to claim this shitter is anything other than bench juice? he is just about the most blatantly bad armor unit in the series

I take back what I said about Gilliam being good.

Lady Knight Sexy

>>716463287
I forgot she existed. She's mostly just worse than Louis.

>>716463472
>Tfw I am a hard only player so I can use Jade.

Great Knight > Paladin

>>716463607
She's totally usable in Maddening, but her niche doesn't really exist because the difference between her and Louis is that Louis gets ORKOd and she gets nearly ORKOd so it's pretty close to the same thing. And she trades this for performance everywhere else. Still good enough to use, and maybe more interesting outside of Armor because decent RES is not too common.

>>716463771
I really need to finish my maddening run. I'm at the volcano and every time I lure in titty dragon lady someone gets ganked and I choose to play other games

>>716459152
Thieves used to be mostly a utility class, so much so that half the time they didn't even let them promote since they weren't focused on doing combat. Now their utility has been getting taken away more and more with every new game without their combat improving that much. So now they suck because they're dodgetanks in games where hits below 50% are 1RN.

Say something to her

>>716464996
Now would be Engage where they have really good but expensive physical 1-2 range, or Fates doing similar with Ninjas and Outlaws getting Shining Bow nukes + staff utility, or Three Houses where while unlocking chests is useless, the classes are good chassis thanks to +1 MOV, ignoring terrain penalties and being cheap to certify on some units.

>>716465345
hairy cunt (this is a compliment)

>>716465345
Dont know her but she looks like a better Leonie.
>Dagdar kid.
Isnt that dude gay for Marty?

>>716465345
weak to anal

>>716465364
>3H
>Assassin Ignatz
Absolutely disgusting

I love dwagons.

>>716465680
Ass Bignutz is absolute killer in 3Copes fyi

Would you?

>>716457821 (OP)
the myrmidon chick they added in Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon (athena) ended up with god stats when i reclassed her to archer. Everyone else should do the same cause shes cute.

>>716466182
I will slay her with my Falchion

Who is the biggest stud in FE canonically? I'm betting on Stahl, motherfucker has the girls intrested in him before the A support.

>>716467024
Me

>>716467024
Camus

>>716467024
Takumi for me, I would be gay for him if he asked.

>>716467024
Kris has every girl horny for him, even the taken ones.

>>716467024
Canonically Byleth.
Mercedes wants to have crest babies with Sylvain?
Hilda fucks Caspar and is even in Felix room at certain month?
Flayn is cuddling with Ferdinand?
Yuri and Constance promise to marry each other?
Dorothea wants to be Brigid's queen partner?
That doesn't matter. Byleth will flaunt his massive girthy ring and the female (Or femboys) will choose him.

>>716467148
Why are you gay

>>716467827
Anon said they weren't gay, just that they'd be gay if he asked.

>>716457821 (OP)
>Train your archers NOW
I do, I give all stat boosters to my waifu Shamir because I love her

Animal girls

pre-3h release was fun

>>716469630
Sex with subhumans

>>716467024
Chrom. Just ask Maribellefags and femanons who played Awakening.

>>716465680
cry about it

>>716459635
Draug is ok in 3 and pretty good in 12(though you tend to switch off him to something different here). 11 Wolf and Sedgar are probably best as generals for a good chunk. Douglas has his uses. Oswin's legit good. Gilliam's ok but could be better, Gatrie's alright. Taruneo is alright to use in the dork brigade. Effie is good(least in Conq anyways), Louis gets a bad rap but he's good for an early engage unit.

Armors biggest problem is obviously they're slow and die to anything that even uses a lighter. Good luck getting Arden to any battle in genealogy of horses, and most hard modes they usually get chunked physically anyways so they lose their selling point as a tank.

>>716458338
IS has this weird boner autism where the early archer almost always come with absolutely dog water base stats for no reason.
Take Wolt for example. Even if you changed his class to Cavalier without any base stats changes he would be slower than Allen (the str cav), weaker than Lance (the speed cav) and frailer than both.

>>716470450
>Draug is ok in 3 and pretty good in 12(though you tend to switch off him to something different here).
if you're talking about using him as a horseman in lunatic mode you might as well mention the superior alternative, Roger
As for actually using armors, knight Kris is good in prologue and you'll likely use him and/or another good unit as a general until about chapter 15

They aren't ready for Sniper Minerva.
>Good stats
>Good growths
>C bows because Sniper
>Get her halfway through 11 and 12 so ample time to raise her stats and bow rank

Lissa

>>716471293
You can do whatever you want in FE11 and FE12, that's one nice things about those games. There's 20 or so really good units and you shove them into what classes you want.

>>716469630
Mine already.

>>716471367
What is that slut doing with Maribelle's scissor sister?

>>716471293
Minerva's bases are terrible what are you talking about

>>716471409
Reminder that the one on the right has unprotected sex with underaged dragon boys

>>716471483
her bases are better than jeorge and you don't get a lot of master seals early on in fe11, I used her as a sniper for a few chapters

>>716471609
I meant moreso for FE12, but I still don't get what you'd use her as a sniper for in FE11
she has one real weapon rank and one class that can use it, and it's a really good one

>>716472663
kill dracoknights, double some enemies

>>716472761
Dwagons

>>716472761
my future sister wife

>>716473792
Veyle would never eat ice cream

Robin sexo

>>716470313
Better yet, just ask all the FemRobin players that got CHROM'd.

Train blondes

>>716467024
Finn

>>716478857

>>716480094
Have babies with Citrinne.

so what happened to the relays

>>716471507
Nope.
Canonically she is dangerous when she plays, just imagine when in heat.
Only Corrin turned into a dragon can overpower her and keep her in check with copius amounts of creampies.

>>716465345
her boyfriend is useful

>>716458610
I love Snipers but let's not delude ourselves. They are typically player phase units that aren't fast enough to double regularly and struggle to kill things. They're good for chip but you know what else is good for chip? A javelin. Killing fliers is their only real niche (assuming the aren't fucked by low effective modifiers or wind magic isn't given fliers effectiveness) but that's just not enough.

I love scat

>>716459635
Genuinely they're always "fine", just with downsides that make them bad for the way the LTCfags of the community try to reinforce as the "right way to play".

armors are fine I just have a bad habit of maneuvering them right into the one dude on the map with an armorslayer

I wish atlus would make another SRPG...

relay doko

>>716458632
The strongest weapon in FE2 is a bow.
Archers are good in FE3.
Archers have solid combat in 4 but bad movement and EP memes on them.
The best archer/bow knight in 5 is Selphina.
The nomads and prepromotes are fine in 6.
Bow mains have it rough in 7 to 9. Although you can make a point to teach bows to Oscar for the triangle attack if you care about that.
Leonardo has his uses in the DB and Shinon's combat is good all game long.
DS FE Bows get stronger on higher difficulties because EP gets rough.
Bows in Awakening are weirdly enough not that bad despite the EP focus. Wind Magic has terrible base mt so bows can shoot down errant fliers where needed. They're also good in Apothoesis since they can dodge both Counter and Magic Counter. For the main story, their main use is to be pair up fodder and grow through dual strikes. Its a shame that DA+ is locked to Chrom/Lucina.
Bows have been consistently good in every game since Fates.

>>716459903
FE10 Gatrie is a solid unit that gets memed on by speed cap at the very end.

for me it's sniper merrin

Sniper Citrinne meme

I like this sniper.
Anyways the relays are dead again but would be cool if they could happen without a big thread dedicated to it.
Would it be fine if I pastebin the links and posted them here.
At most you would likely see 1 per thread.

>>716491454
Imagine the meltdown if this was confirmed

>>716491815
alcryst is lapiss's bride though

>>716491815
They wouldn't let Lapis whale go.