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>>716461593 (OP)
Reminder

>*sip*
>*whack*
>*siiiiiiip*
>*whack*

>>716461661
retard sniper main who gets shit on by based soldiers and demos

I just idort in this game. "Maining" is dumb and shows some form of autism

>>716461661
Anyone who knows how to bumpcheck hard counters Spy

>>716461661
Reminder

>>716462001
I main engineer and I'm a genius

>>716461661
>sniper has le no counters
>vaccinator
>scorchshot
>bonk
>blast jumps
>shield charges
>fists of steel
>spy
>ten thousand flank routes on every map
if i can pootis pow snipers as the biggest slowest target in the game there's no excuse

>>716461661
How many more years is this retarded board going to be stunlocked by this pic made by a faggot trying to apply balancing knowledge to a game he has had no interest in playing with a competitive mindset?

>>716462438
Post PhD

>>716461661
This doesn't even make sense. If you have hard counters that increases the difficulty of the class and therefore raises the skill requirement to play at a certain level all else being equal.

>>716461661
>*Airblasts your projectiles*
What now fag?

>>716462993
>faggot trying to apply balancing knowledge to a game he has had no interest in playing with a competitive mindset?
This is literally the entire community who are vocal with these things.

any balance discussion that doesn't start with medic is a shitposting grift

>>716464117
Medics needs buffs, not nerfs. His only usable melee is the Ubersaw.

>>716464214
He is not supposed to be meleeing people much

>>716464117
In what way is medic problematic and if the answer is "hes overcentralizing" than 1.
>every class in the game is in some way "overcentralizing"
and 2.
>what is the solution

I like typing like a retard in chat while top scoring.

>>716464030
>TF2 essay youtuber
>Has 0 competitive experience, refuses to improve on their gameplay at all costs ever since their first year playing the game, can never hope to ever hover the top of a scoreboard in a lobby filled with competent players
>Their opinion on balancing apparently matters to the community
This is what you get when the game has been promoted to be le friendly fun casual since day 1.

i like typing nigger and faggot into chat and having someone fail at votekicking me.

>>716462891
Spy cannot be a Sniper counter for as long as Sniper has the Razorback

>>716464810
The spy has a gun.

>>716463059
The last time I posted my pretty huge dick, I got banned.

UNCLE DANE THE ENGIE MAIN

>>716461593 (OP)
every single sentry has an angle its weak from

>>716461661
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1692913345357/
AUTISM

>>716464214
>Medics needs buffs
you are a slobbering retard

>Stock flamethrower for general damage, afterburn and maximum airblasts
>Scorch shot for harrassing snipers and shooting stickies
>Homewrecker to help my engie bros and making spies endlessly seethe

Oh yeah. It's fempyro gaming time.

>>716466943
>maximum airblasts
oh baby

>>716466943
I was 100% in agreement until I saw you were a gooner.
I joke with my friends that getting to use the scorch shot to fuck with snipers is the reward for using the homewrecker to save buildings

>>716466943
I love spy maining, top scoring, forcing the enemy team to switch to at least 3 pyros, then just walking the cart into the final point by switching to heavy

>increases fun by 500%

>>716462158
>Wait! I have to touch you!

>>716461661
here's your REAL reminder

>>716468631
GRU sucks, FoS is better since 90% of the time your opponent will forget you're weak to melee.

>>716461593 (OP)
Literally the only reason I started playing demo regularly

>>716468760
And even if they do remember, if you quick swap to your minigun (preferably tomislav) its a free kill unless they can somehow react in time to get to cover or out of your effective range, which is practically never since they're too busy wacking you with something

fulgur is kino

>>716468760
>takes 10,000 years to run back to the front if there isn't a teleporter

>>716469010
Better than arriving at the battlefield and getting immediately murdered from your reduced health bar.

>>716461661
>Demoman
>low Skill requirement
this image is still absolute trash maybe when the delay wasnt around but now this definitely not true. Soldier is by far the biggest knuckle dragging retard magnet in the game beating out pyro at the highest levels of play because of how reaction based and because he cant really function anywere thats out of his scope of range unless hes being the medics bodygaurd. and what makes that problem even worse is the Gunboats and how they enable Soldier to basically get rid of his weakness which is his speed for a minimal amount of health/fall damage which is nullified by getting overhealed by a medic shit needs to be nerfed its way too strong and it basically lets Soldiers jump at their foes with minimal risk of death for a pick or kill

>>716469389
Yeah bro, alternating between spamming M1 and M2 is the peak of skill.

>>716461593 (OP)

>>716469549
yeah man just like aiming at the floor and rocket jumping where barely anybody can hit you while you get free shots is so hard. see I can be a reductionist asshat too.

>>716469549
I'd argue with Demoman, the true factor is intuition.
A good Demoman needs to get into the Demozone in order to consistently land pipes and know when and where to place traps.
A good Demoman in the Demozone is truly unstoppable.

>>716469803
>yeah man just like aiming at the floor and rocket jumping where barely anybody can hit you while you get free shots is so hard
This still applies to Demoman too you fucking retard lmao

>>716469876
except demomen have to aim pills and still predict the movement of their enemies with thier now delayed stickies now in the air.

You're not winning this Soldiertard, you are actually so easy I tell newbies to play soldier instead of scout, niggas that spend time doing jump rollouts have earned my respect but for the average faggot its as easy as One two Three.

>>716464117
>2007
where does the time go fellow gamingsissies

>>716461593 (OP)
Do Scouts just forget they have a pistol for this exact situation

>>716470145
>Soldiertard
Soldier is like my 6th least played class in TF2. Don't be so asshurt that you start developing schizophrenia and inventing boogeymen now. It's not good for your health.

>>716470419
iam an actual schizo so whatever stop fucking talking to me you're wrong either way.

>>716464214
Anon, his entire purpose is keeping other people alive so they can fight everyone for him.

>>716469819
>and where to place traps
That's like 0.001% of any Demoman player I see now
The vast majority just uses it like >>716469549 said

>>716461661
There's a big difference between low skill sticky spamming demos and W+M1 rocket spamming soldiers, and the people who can use both effectively without getting gibbed at the end of whatever retarded shit they just tried.
Sure you can sticky chokepoints, but that's only gonna net you a pick or two before some scout gets through and starts ADHD rushing you.
Sure you can spam rockets at enemy groups, but all it takes is one Pyro with a rare 3rd braincell to airblast a couple times before you're rendered worthless.

>>716464117
Crossbow no longer autoreloads, reload time is increased by 40%, and damage is reduced by 15%, 12 shots in reserve
Overdose fires faster the more uber you have
Ubersaw now reduces max hp by 15 and gives 20% uber per hit, affects disguised spies
Vita saw starts with -10 max hp, and you gain 5 max hp for each kill, 170 max
Med beam no longer removes status effects like jarate, milk, bleed or fire
Afterburn(flamethrower) BLOCKS uber gain
Kritzkrieg has slower overheal gain, but also loses the bonus uber rate
Vacc heals people slower the longer you stay glued to one teammate, like reverse crit heals

Sniper gets a scope glint that makes him more visible
Bargain gets -10% firing speed
Classic can now headshot at any point(needs the same charge windup as quickscopes, otherwise no headshots), but the damage penalty also affects headshots
Fix the fucking huntsman hitboxes, +20% firing speed
Razorback lets the spy deal 51% of your max hp, but it also stuns him in place like old sandman
Darwins gives +25 hp and +50% ammo

Diamondback can't crit when disguised
Kunai has a cooldown on the heal to make chainstabs when pursued ineffective
Red tape +20% reach
Dead ringer display fix, crit notifications don't follow the spy
Disguise fix, they don't lose heads or legs, and use proper face flexes
Remove cl_interp command
Spawn outlines only work on engi buildings and objectives, cap points/intel now affected

Degreaser has higher airblast "firing" speed, standard ammo cost
Backburner +50% push force
Phlog has 150 max ammo
Scorch scales afterburn based on how close the flare exploded
Jetpack has faster switch speed
Gas passer slows people down
Volcano minicrits on flaming targets
Axtinguisher renamed and causes bleed on target
Rake heals on kill

Sandman restored
If not, the downside is slower swing speed instead of crippling hp reduction
Caber now deals 145 damage and explodes consistently
Steak gives hp regen for the buff duration
Active Wrangler shield disables hauling

>>716470582
Allow the Amputator to cancel its AOE taunt?
Make the Vita Saw reward hits in literally any other way than Ubersaw's shitty cousin?

>>716464889
>3-4 shots to kill a non healed sniper who is hanging out next to a sentry/the rest of his team who instantly erase you the second you start shooting him

>>716471424
Soldier no longer enjoys rj self damage reduction if his rocket damages an enemy
Bad box reduces med and medkit healing
Direct hit 20% reduced reload speed, has no damage ramp up, now deals the base 112 dmg at point blank
Conch heal reduced to 2/s
Bison projectile changes color if critical
Equalizer starts at 55 dmg, up to 120
Equalizer/plan block medic healing again
Gardener has 100% increased knockback taken

Demo swords have no extra range, except claidheamh
Eyelander needs shield to apply hp and speed boosts

Rescue ranger has +30% increased repair cost across the board

>>716469010
>GRU heavy arrives on the point
>he has 100 fucking HP and gets instantly erased by 8/9 classes
it fucking SUCKS

>>716468849
Brits actually have better dental health than the US. It's just that the US puts braces on kids if there's any visible crookedness.

>>716472791
What's wrong with that?

>>716468760
What I liked the best was how all he said about demoman was that he's black

>>716461661

>>716472240
You're supposed to only have the GRU out for part of the trip. Swap when you start moving, and put them away so your health can get back to max or close to it by the time you're near your teammates

>Shittiest map in the update was made by a tranny

>>716471424
>>716472182

>scout runs into room
>gets killed by my sentry
>grab it and move it to the other side of the room
>he runs in as demo and fires at its old spot
>dies to the sentry from behind
>move sentry further up the battlefront
>he dies to it before he's even ready

>>716474776
>maps objective is a giant HANGing spot
No better way to show what it's all about.

>>716464689
Competitive minded faggotry got us the matchmaking updates and "balance" crap you're pretending to have a problem with now because it made you look like a total retard, so who SHOULD we listen to then?

>>716461661
>sniper has the highest skill requirement in the game
actual bullshit. you press two mouse buttons and then you move left or right for a few seconds
meanwhile...
>rocket jump
>fire a couple rockets midair
>dump thee rest of them after you land
>finish them off with the shotgun after landing
wow so easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqCE-wZrQNk

We should delete Reddit

>>716469010
>Literally only relevant in maps where the distance is longer than max health penalty because the neurosurgeons in the comp community decided that the GRU needed you to rest for the same amount of time you save getting to the front lines and Valve was dumb enough to listen to them

>>716471962
can confirm this as fact
>ambassador headshot + bodyshot
>I guess I was one single HU too far for maximum HS damage with the assador
>deal 98 crit + 34 bodyshot and get quickscoped as a result
at least 1k hours spy player, doesn't matter when you have to line up a minimum of 2 shots under the absolute best case somewhat niche scenario and they just have to do what they practice doing on every single player.

>>716464117
>le medic gets countered by everyone but the uber counters everyone!!!
is the most retarded meme that came from tf2. it takes 1 braindead pyro or 1 non braindead engineer to completely shut down the uber push

>>716464117
what if syringe guns also healed teammates from range

>>716475163
Syringe gun is already better than the crossbow but tftumor brained retards don't want to hear it.

>>716475250
>pyro tries to w m1 me
>shoot him with blutsauger
>the retard doesn't understand that i heal faster than he burns me and dies
crossbow faggots will NEVER know this feeling

>>716475250
if you are not healing with medic, you are not pulling your weight
there is never enough healing
crossbow's main utility is burst healing, with ranged murder as a nice bonus
even if syringes could heal, they'd be worse because they can range and can murder but still can't burst

>>716474796
Which part angered you the most?

>>716468631
>"You're"

There's a way to beat a Sentry as Scout you just

>>716475529
*Yo'ure

>>716475339
I was a huge blutsauger user for the majority of my life, the thing you just described is euphoric, punishing someone far too confident with their too-predictable walk pattern
but the occasional yet insane clutch moments the crossbow provides makes it a tough decision; healing someone that is ABOUT to die is also great. ahhh... choices... choices...

>>716475603
yaoir

>>716474776
You know what I'm just deleting this shit ass map from the game files and the winter turbine. Even if it weren't for the troon crap the map sucks.
I'mma use that 69.9MB for more Fat Ass Pyro Pics.

>>716475404
>t. The medic laying on the floor dead because he did 60 in two shots on a scout because muh BURST damage (of 30)

>>716461661
the only class comparison chart that matters

>>716475149
>Be engie
>See ubered heavy
>Pick up sentry
>Run to cover (I'm not retarded so I built next to cover)
>Put sentry back down depending on how far the uber pushed
Ubers don't do shit to engies if they remember m2 exists.

>>716476365
Lol
If heavy was both weak and unfun nobody would be playing him

Heavy mains are such retards

>>716476618
>Heavy mains are such retards
I just like shooting at people, what did I ever do to you.

>>716476618
I don't think that image was made by a heavy main, it was made by a compfag who only plays 6v6 with a custom banlist that removes anything that could shake up the meta

>>716476618
>Heavy mains are such retards
which is why they think playing the class who instantly loses to half the classes without a medic huffing his taint 24/7 and consists of holding left click with only like 4 viable weapons fun

>>716462001
i main scout because i am fast irl

>>716461661
scout is the best class in the game with no hard counters, anyone that thinks otherwise is genuinely retarded or just really bad at scout.

>>716477119
A compfag would put demo and medic at the very top of the fun value. And dump spy and pyro at the very bottom.
This chart also implies that engi is very balanced, which isn't the case in any comp environment, not even highlander.

>>716469010
if there isnt a single teleporter you already lost

>>716461661
Fixed

>>716477460
You were saying?

>>716477638
What happened to the demoman
Where's Tavish anon

>>716470335
I can't remember the last time I saw a Scout run a pistol. Most I've seen have one of the drinks as their secondary and maybe every once in a while the Flying Guillotine

>>716477886
Whenever I use Soda Popper, I also take the Pistol, it's great for finishing off enemies who survived/dodged the primary's burst damage

>>716476365
As an engineer main I have to agree with engineer placement. It seesaws between having fun matches where you build sneaky sentries or single handedly defend an entire area against a push, and matches where there's a spy on the enemy team who just has it out for you and you aren't allowed to play. But I keep coming back to him

>>716473553
Time and money, I guess. Some would argue it removes "character".

>>716477642
*drinks bonk and makes your sentry kill you*
2ez

>pre mannconomy TF2
you just had to be there, honestly.

>>716479130
You'd think after more than a decade of retards embarrassing themselves by pretending to have played a game before it went free to play (which, reminder, is 14 years ago at this point), niggas would stop, but no it just keeps going.

>>716478546
*pushes into corner and kills you when your bonk wears off*
Try again :^)

>>716472791
all humans have had garbage dental health since the agriculture revolution (which was actually a mistake, unlike the industrial one), and the only ones spared from this are the humanoids that remained uncontacted, eating pork and other wild game for another 12k years in peace

>>716462158
>*Gets facestabbed for standing 3 feet close to them*
>Y-Yup! I can confirm that is a spy!

>>716479381
14 years is not a very long time, anon.

>>716479381
people have, in fact, either been playing the game for that long or played it during its prime and moved on.
not everyone started playing because they liked to customze their class in the same way they like to customze their body.

>>716464117
PennyArcade used to be so... I wouldn't say "good" but they definitely weren't mentally ill loony troonies back then

>>716477824
Huh? What's a Demoman? Who's Tavish? You okay buddy?

>>716479656
Nigger the floor for a felony conviction is a year. Yes 14 years is a long fucking time to pretend you're cool for starting to play a game at an arbitrary point in time to try to impress people on an anonymous image board.

>>716476618
I find Heavy fun but only with a shotgun secondary, until I rejected the Sandvich meme I found him boring

>>716464689
>competitive experience
fuck your retarded team quake

>>716479951
whats the point of heavy shotgun when minigun is better up close and doesn't have to reload. soldier can find himself out of rockets, pyro does more damage with shotgun then flame, but heavy shotgun is just for situations where you're probaly fucked anyway and trying to move while shooting

>>716471962
>i cant solo the entire enemy team, game bad

>>716479851
>What makes me a good...
>Oooh, I've really hit rock bottom...

>>716480063
You are not enlightened.

>>716461593 (OP)
only retards "main" for the sake of maining

>>716462158
I wish friendly fire was enabled by default and spies can't get bumpchecked.