From is the epitome of mediocre game developer

>>716477585 (OP)
TRVTH NVKE
The fact that this trash dev gets praised by nu/v/ really shows how far this board has fallen over the years

>>716477724
The same people worshipping From now would've called DeS jank trash back in 2009. Now every stiff animation and half-baked mechanic is "soul". It's not even about the games anymore, it's just brand loyalty cosplay at this point.

>>716477820
>it's just brand loyalty cosplay at this point
True, their similarity to Nintendo fans is striking

Worse than mediocre, their programming skills are shocking, Elden Ring runs off the same god damn engine they'd been using for 13 years prior and it was constantly breaking. It feels like discourse warps around all of their games post 2009. I find that while fanboys and detractors exist for every game the discourse at least feels honest. With Fromsoft because the praise largely stems from how difficult they are and how only elite gamurs can beat them the difficulty elitists completely took over and made it impossible to discuss anything else. You see other games with a few bugs and glitches get blown up to HOLY SHIT BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY status yet I see this in every god damn Souls game and I wonder if I'm playing the same game as everyone else. It feels like a cult, they repeat the same mantras over and over. It's just insufferable. I like the games generally but I just wish they would at least be honest about how technically shit they are. They can never be just ok, no they have to be PERFECT 10/10 DEVELOPERS otherwise I wasted my life playing the same game over and over for nothing. I dunno, it's just weird.

>>716477585 (OP)
After the flop that was Nightreign I don't know how anyone could be excited for their games anymore

>>716478043
>You see other games with a few bugs and glitches get blown up to HOLY SHIT BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY status yet I see this in every god damn Souls game and I wonder if I'm playing the same game as everyone else. It feels like a cult, they repeat the same mantras over and over.
Yep I've seen the exact same thing. It really is a cult moreso than any other video game fanbase on /v/.

>>716477820
Demon's Souls got big back in 2009 because it came out at exactly the right time when people were really starting to bitch about how easy games were getting. If it came out during the 90's-2000s it would have faded into as much obscurity as King's Field, Evergrace and all of their other obscure franchises.

You even had the president of Sony calling it janky shit back then and honestly he's probably right even though I like it, at least it was honest, same with Zero Punctuation's review until his friend couldn't stand that someone in the world didn't like Souls games and pressured him into liking it like all Soulsfaggots do.

>>716478172
>when people were really starting to bitch about how easy games were getting
This was never a thing

They only got big because of years of ecelebs and journalist shilling this garbage. It's another industry plant to be aware of that doesn't deserve the sales it got.

>>716478162
It's a fucking cult everywhere. You cannot discuss anything else about them, yet any other even slightly difficult game that doesn't have the magical From Software logo on it gets shit on for being too hard or buggy which again, at least feels organic. It's classic mass formation shit; people's brains just rewire for these games and these games only. bing bing wahoos at least don't pretend they're anything other than autistic losers half the time, Soulsfaggots act like they're just straight up better than you for liking them.

>>716478260
Maybe not for you because you weren't alive then
The "le doesn't hold your hand, feels so good to overcome le insurmountable boss" mantra started there and there was a reason for it. 2009 was when the easy movie game meme really took off and the reception to Demon's Souls was almost a repudiation of that. I don't think it would have done nearly as well if it came out at any other time.

>>716477585 (OP)
And yet, Dark Souls is a flawed gem and Sekiro is a masterpiece. Haven't played all of their newest games but just being the developer of those 2 games already puts them in a better position than 95% of the industry. You're just hoping in the Fromsoft hate bandwagon that started running with Elden Ring

>>716478308
I think the journalists started sucking it off in response to the following it was already getting and by the time Dark Souls 2 came out you basically just weren't allowed to say anything else.

>>716477585 (OP)
The average movie game offers more than a souls game because of effort and polish put into them. I don't get why a single human being plays souls besides gamer cred because those games are the same garbage through and through without a single change.

>>716478435
I was born in 90 faggot. Ninja Gaiden already held that title, deluded little fromdrone.

>>716478485
Sekiro is the only game I feel is even slightly worthy of its reputation. Elden Ring is a broken mess.

>>716477585 (OP)
After Dark Souls people just kind of forgot FromSoft was(is?) primarily a shovelware company. Like people complain about every Souls game being the same, but releasing the same game over and over again has been their business strategy since the 90s.

I'm 35 and I never understood how Demon's Souls or Dark Souls gained the traction it did. Most other games were more challenging than it in difficult modes. I never really find anything remarkable about cheesing a boss fight and putting no focus on anything while playing them. I found the NES game of yester years more challenging and in depth but I thought we evolved past that.

>>716478485
>Sekiro is a masterpiece
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>716478485
Sekiro is another souls clone.

>>716478059
this ! So much this

>>716478685
The thing about Souls is that the difficulty feels almost NESlike except obviously way easier because you can level up and summon and save and shit. If you get past the difficulty the games are incredibly short, especially DS1.

>>716477585 (OP)
Miyazaki is a hack that can only make one game

>>716478817
All those games belong in F tier.

>>716478685
It was because it was the only high profile game of its time to place emphasis on its difficulty specifically. A lot of old games even if bullshit hard didn't advertise themselves as such very often and the late 2000's was renowned for the baby movie game trend that was kicking off then, largely because of shit like Uncharted and Bam Ham

Microslop still seething

>>716478784
They offer nothing but meme difficulty. Most of the industry were pushing for more interesting venues of creativity and interaction while Fromsoft was stuck and is still is in the past. It still doesn't make sense that public bought into regardless of quality experience which these games don't offer.

>>716477585 (OP)
disagree + u retarded nigga

>>716478915
I think Uncharted is more enjoyable than a fake difficulty game that is sold on brand recognition alone and nothing else.

>>716479031
shit taste.

>>716478960
I have to disagree a bit there. Souls got popular precisely because the industry at large was just pushing the same movie/Cawadooty slop over and over back then and not much has really changed despite Souls being successful.

>>716478915
You know movie games had things called difficulty modes which offered more unique awards than the usual boring uniformity of rollslop.

>>716479031
Don't mistake me for being a Fromdrone, I'm just providing context as to why I think it got big.

>>716479069
Souls are more uninspired than Call of Duty and have worse performance and terrible graphics on top of it.

>>716479153
what a dogshit opinion.

>>716477585 (OP)
They're always 4 generations behind everyone else.

demons souls is goated
sekiro is probably the best action game ever

haters be damned

>>716479153
what a based opinion

>>716479230
Your framegen and other poovdia gimmicks are shit

They just make dark fantasy FIFA with reused assets with different zanzibart names.

>>71647915
I, another anonymous poster, am here to shit on your shit taste. this is a dogshit opinion and you should feel bad for attempting to perpetuate it here.

Idk how anyone can shit on the same era that gave us Portal, Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc.. and hold a shit game like Demon's Souls as the savior of vidya when those other games were pushing the medium much more than people give them credit for. Sure we had bummers along the way but at least they're far more interesting than Dark Souls and its clones.

Fromdrones do not want to admit but there are far better companies than it.

Discord troons are here to try and get you to believe that Fromsoft is worth your ire but in reality there are way worse companies than it.

>>716479580
>were pushing the medium
into becoming cheap movies watched with a controller in hand instead of in theaters.

>>716479917
Fromsoft is Japanese EA and deserve the flak they get for releasing the same game at full price for decades.

>>716479991
Incorrect.

>>716479269
>sekiro is probably the best action game ever
fromredditors getting uppity, it's mgr level slop except you die on bosses more and nearly everything else is worse

They're the first successful experiment on how brand name alone sells with the help of paid journalists in the beginning.

>>716480458
That's not Nintendo though

>>716478059
Uh oh melty

>>716480558
Nintendo deserved their recognition from helping the industry move on from the crash in the 80s and innovate more than Fromsoft ever has.

>>716478059
>Nightreign
>flop
Yeah, in your wet dream lmao

>>716480458
this. demon's souls was shilled like crazy by journos. look where we are now.

>>716481735
everything is shilled by journos. game you like is shilled by journos.

are we getting raided again

>>716481824
we have been getting raided regularly for a long time now arleady.

>>716481824
>people are waking up
>it must be le discord!
nah

>>716481814
Nobody actually liked Demon's Souls whereas games that usually get shilled don't need to be sometimes unless it's woke trash.

>>716477585 (OP)
I hate the discussion around their games on this site.
It's always either:

>Their games are worse than CoD and AIDs
or
Morons lining up to defend a part even Miyazaki himself would call a badly done hack job

>>716479991
This

>>716477585 (OP)
OPPBP

>>716479991
> same game
are you retarded

>>716480672
>Multiplayer live service game down to 10% of players after only two months
Holy kek embarrassing

>>716481996
>nobody actually liked demon's souls
get out of here tourist.

/v/ is always a From board
why do you try to gaslight me otherwise

can't wait for the next parry/dodge roll simulator to release

>>716482521
yes saar redeem the souls saar

>>716482521
More like tourists and industry insiders tricked /v/ that shovelware kusoge was good.

>>716482543
>he doesn't like demon's darkbornering II shadow of the ashes of the ringed crown of the old hunters: die twice: remastered
ngmi

>Souls games have a small following
>/v/ praises them as a filter for normies/journalists
>Souls games become mainstream
>/v/ starts pretending they were never good to begin with

At least bother changing the image of your bait thread

>>716483082
shit meme 2bh

>>716483082
Lmao how true

>>716483484
retard

>>716483112
>/v/ starts pretending they were never good to begin with
There is no pretending. They were never good to begin with.

>>716483780
historical revisionism.

>>716478059
atleast post the up to date image

>>716483981
Is what you are doing right now

They're shit and responsible for killing the video game industry. They're terrible and worse than mediocre.

>>716486075
retard

Fromsisters we lost...

>>716485182
>at least post botted reviews
lmao

Miyazaki ate my dog and cucked me by fucking my wife after showing her his poison swamp

>>716477585 (OP)
Bump

>>716477585 (OP)
OP is the epitome of gagging on BBC

>>716478172
Exactly. DS had the gimmick of being "hard" in a time when other games were piss easy. People were so starved for challenging games that they overlooked all the flaws.

>>716478059
this nigger got filtered by gladius

I love getting stuck on geometry.

I love having a dog shit camera.

I love shitty lockon.

I love attacks going through walls and enemies getting stuck in the geometry.

I love bad platforming.

I love input delay and input buffering.

I love artificial difficulty.