>Sequel is technically better in every aspect than the first game but it still doesn't feel as good as the first game

Either 1 is better or 2 is better. And it depends on what criteria you decide to judge them by.

You can come up with a criteria to judge them by but thats still subjective. You can point to the conensus on what game is preferred or say hey this one sold more, but citing consensus and popularity is a logical falacy, its just an appeal to authority.

Why does it matter so much to people that they must impose their tastes upon other people? It sucks.

inb4 evil within

2 > 1, ALWAYS.
only contrarian faggots disagree

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>>716533785
>le muh taste
only thing that matters in video games is gameplay. how deep it is, how immediate it is, how fun it is. literally nothing else matters. gameplay and structure. design and only design. no one cares about your casual baby retard taste stop holding humanity back and go get run over by a car or murdered by a nigger you jewish koolaid drinking redditor fuck

>>716532989 (OP)
Pokemon BW
Super Mario Galaxy
FFX

TOTK

Dead Space 2

>>716534101
Gameplay quality is subjective. Some people might prefer a game to be more or less linear, they may like rpg mechanics being added to their action games or find it annoying, some people might like parry mechanics some might not

And i know you dont think only design matters because if a game that had the best game play ever starred a black quadraplegic with vitiligo, youd say its shit -- and itd be fine to call it shit, but it would make you a hypocrite.

>sequel is better than the first in every way
>but because it changed genres no one gives it a fair shake and faggots shit on it because its too different from the first

>>716532989 (OP)
Spyro

>>716532989 (OP)
>first game is just more IMPACTFUL than the sequel

>>716534718
I'd play as the nigger if it was good
>muh opun world rpg mechanic skinner box
ain't good, kill yourself
there is no subjectivity to truth. video games are mental exercises and mental stimulation. a video game that accomplishes only one or neither is not fucking good. these subjective arguments are what lead to a loss of reason when it comes to game design and the mainstream embracing of actual fucking garbage.

>>716533883
Doesnt apply to:
>Zelda
>dmc
>dark souls
>drakengard
>force unleashed
>little big planet

>>716532989 (OP)
Max Payne 2. Gunplay is better, shoot-dodging backwards isn't a fancy way to commit suicide, the spinny reload during bullet time is cool and lets you fight more effectively, and the Mona sections weren't bad. It just couldn't recapture the magic of the first game, though.

>>716534927
>Doesn't apply to Zelda or Dark Souls
Yes it does

>>716532989 (OP)
deltarune is going that path

>>716532989 (OP)
for me it was re1 and 2. there's no barry in re2.

>>716534920
>I'd play as the nigger if it was good
If so then youre not a hypocrite, just a retard
>muh opun world rpg mechanic skinner box ain't good, kill yourself
I am not alusing to any specific games if thats what youre thinking and there are games that i would consider bad i just wouldnt have the audacity to insist that theyre bad objectively. And just because something is subjective doesnt make it invalid either.
>there is no subjectivity to truth.
There is no truth in which video game is better than another. You say this one is deeper or this one more polished, but there are many things that make a game good. We all like a game that feels good, controls good, has a good camera, has good mechanics, has good balance, but are controls more important than mechanics, is balance more important than depth? Is player expression more important than balance? Thats a good example, games with more freedom in character builds are intrinsically less balanced -- the absence of that freedom would intrinsically make it more balanced, everyone would have access to the same tools and it would be fair -- and at that, in this context i could say that it would objectively be more fair. Yet, i couldnt say itd be ojectively more fun.id be inclined to say the opposite but someone else might care more about balance.
>video games are mental exercises and mental stimulation. a video game that accomplishes only one or neither is not fucking good.
And let me guess, that stimulation only counts when it comes purely from mashing buttons? You cant honestly tell me that story means literally nothing, id rather play a dark fantasy hack n slash with 9/10 combat than a 10/10 gameplay rts where you run a burger chain, the setting alone affects the players enjoyment of the game i.e. fun

>>716532989 (OP)
KOTOR 1 and 2 but I usually enjoy full playthroughs of 2 more.

>>716534920
>these subjective arguments are what lead to a loss of reason
When you try to shut down the discussion with adhominems, and refuse to consider what i have to say you are the one who has lost reason
>when it comes to game design and the mainstream embracing of actual fucking garbage.
I think new games tend to suck to be honest, i dont buy games i dont like and i dont expect anyone else to either. How can acknowledging the validity of other peoples preferences alone ruin games? Its a commercial medium, how the fuck is that supposed to happen

>>716535985
"character builds" are exploiting your monkey ego's desire for self expression instead of challenging your mind and making you a better problem solver. video games are about problem solving. this is their ultimate form, this is truth. aesthetic design plays a decent role in how much I like a video game but that's because I'm a dumb artfag, but I will never praise a pretty game that plays like shit. that's missing the point.
video games at their most distilled are about fun through challenge. you didn't say anything about what makes games good, just what easily exploited retards worldwide like. you know what else they like? actual shit
>rts where you run a burger chain
burgerpunk warfare sounds fucking sick though
aesthetics do kinda lose the point when they mean nothing. in way too many games they mean nothing and the developers forget designing levels is writing poetry.
>>716536175
>validity
the opinions of retards are not valid
>commercial
this is a willingness to give everything up to exploitation and profit forgetting actual people make these games and sometimes they do it for more than money. the rat race still doesn't rob you of the freedom to actually live however you please. if you're making fucking video games and getting jewed by publishers there's a huge chance you're not doing it only for money, at least not in the 90s and 2000s

>>716532989 (OP)
the writing just wasnt as good, the climax just wasnt as good.

>>716532989 (OP)
Bioshock is exactly this. Basically everything is better in 2 except it loses the factor of discovering the setting which was one of the main draw of the first.

>>716532989 (OP)
death stranding

>>716532989 (OP)
FF tactics Advance
I played 1 a lot more for some reason but 2 is pretty objectively better balanced etc

>>716532989 (OP)
Xenoblade 3 to Xenoblade 2.

>>716536978
I felt like 2 was better in every way EXCEPT I love soul hacker

>>716532989 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma

Half-Life 2. A huge technological improvement over the original, but plays like a wet fart.

>>716532989 (OP)
Maximo.

>>716536848
I hear a lot of people saying 2 is better but I really don't get it. The gameplay is practically the same, except now you have characters you don't care about and underwater segments where you walk from point A to B.

Caligula 2
unironically lacking SOUL

>>716535685
well that's because you're 10 years older

>>716532989 (OP)
Black Souls 2

>>716532989 (OP)
Red Dead Redemption would be the easy answer

>>716532989 (OP)
Splatoon

>>716532989 (OP)
Kingdom Hearts

>>716532989 (OP)
Dark Souls 2

>>716532989 (OP)
Crash Bandicoot
The Dishwasher Vampire smile

>>716533883
>he actually believes this when DMC2 exists

>>716534125
>Pokemon BW
No, B&W2 obliterated the first game by far.

>>716532989 (OP)
Half-Life for sure

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