Thread 716995530

2>1>3
Even though the spinning medals in 3 is a nice change, 2 is still peak Strikers 1945.
Weekend shmups
Making good progress in your current games?

>>716995530 (OP)
this lil dudes been pissing me off

>>716996106
What the fuck is that?

>>716995530 (OP)
I got memed into Yagawa autism, specifically Batrider right now.
My pb is the last phase of the final boss so far and I'm consistent enough at reaching the last stage, so I'm just playing runs daily until I finally 1cc.

>>716996182
Guwange, it's a cave game

I cant focus on one game I play like 20 and jump from one to the next, which means Ill never 1cc any of them but this is how I can have fun with the genre

>>716997713
Yeah, no reasons to lock yourself into one game at a time, unless of course you enjoy it.

>>716998036
It's a good idea to focus on one game if you are planning to 1cc though.

is GunVein really hard or am i just bad :(
cant even come to stage 5

>>716998952
>GunVein
Is he right?
You know, as fun as the gameplay is, Strikers 1945 III suffers from the same problem. Poor sound, boring planes art, which is why I prefer II.

>>716999876
but the music in Gunvein is actually god tier, also i never read steam reviews because 99% are from retards who cant even beat the 1st stage

i bet you if you check his profile that hes some casual retard

>>717000160
3 hours should be enough to hear all tracks in a shmup by feeding, barring things like hidden second loops/TLBs with unique music.

>>717000224
i found this guy's profile and lets just say that i was right and hes actually retarded

>>717000160
Same, you cannot trust steam reviews when it comes to arcade style games.

>>717000909
kek, look at the second paragraph... this is pure gold, these are the people that leave negative reviews on steam

Still waiting for the asshole who is putting together a controller for me with Sanwa parts so I can finally get back to arcade games. 1945 I and II are among my targets for at least completing the first loop on normal without using continues.

>>717000909
I didn't like UFO50. My biggest problem is that the games are literally modern indie games. It's not an attempt to create an old simulacrum, but an attempt to create 50 modern games that look like old games, like Shovel Knight or other games without much depth do.

>>717004253
>cant put a damn stick by himself
>using Sanwa for shmups

double retard

>>717005564
My time is too valuable, I can't spend it building arcade sticks.
And I chose Sanwa for Tetris Grandmaster 4 due to the adjustable restrictor. However, I have my doubts as to whether it's worth opening it up to rotate the restrictor every fucking time. For Tetris Grandmaster to work properly, you need a 4-way stick, but rotating the plastic piece every time I play something other than Tetris, or Pac Man, or whatever else, is going to be a huge pain in the ass.

>>717006186
10/10, would use as an overlay for a DOJ 1cc with B-S

What makes Shmup good?

>>717006428
Shooting and dodging stuff is fun

>>717006875
I didn't ask about the whole genre. I asked how you decide which game is good.

>>717006428
If I were to make one, I would try:

1. Make the movement of the ship/character respond well to the controls (many shoot 'em ups fail at this most basic point, such as the terrible Sky Force series).

2. Add types of enemies that work together well (older shoot 'em ups used to launch waves of the same enemies at the player, which makes the experience much shallower).

3. Levels should always have action. (in games like Gunbird 1, you can kill enemies quickly once you memorize the levels, and the screen ends up empty in several places)

4. Levels should be well designed and challenging, in addition to the bosses

5. Bosses should be fun

6. There should be a training mode for levels and bosses

7. There should be a game mode that shuffles the pieces for when the player has mastered the game but wants to continue experimenting with it in less "serious" way

8. Sexy women and lots of nudity and bouncing boobs

>>717007017
Either stuff with interesting gameplay mechanics like TSS or cool looking shit like sengoku blade.

>>716995530 (OP)
Earthion is fucking hard

Is this a shmup?

>>716995530 (OP)
Flying pancake is goated

>>717007382
Run n gun

WHEN

>>717007382
That's a run n gun

>>717007640
>game has ships and planes
>but pilot is a cute girl
I like this trend.

>>717007732
It was very clearly inspired by Zero Ranger but the demo was super fun so I don't mind

>>717007831
>Mid-2000s muted, gritty and grounded anime homage
Yes please.

What are (You) working on?

just gonna drop this here, what do you guys think?

https://backloggd.com/u/Washijyazo/list/favorite-shmups-1/

>>716995530 (OP)
Psikyo games are dogshit and I’m tired of pretending otherwise
Dragon blaze is cool but that’s it
>puhrease undastando…we no make bullet hell…but we make bullet hell…
>we cannot afford artists and game directors so we recycle assets and make every run randomized to trick people into playing our games…

>>717009547
>dodonpachi listed even once
Embarrassing eceleb reddit tier opinion, instantly discarded by anyone who plays shmups for more than 5 minutes
What a fucking joke

>>717009156
>>716996771
Although I will probably not play today.
This game really needed a port, but I will take this absolutely amazing MAME overlay.

>>717009547
That's a lot of good games.

For me, it's dinosaur shit like 1942

>>717009697
yawn... ok dude

>>717007732
Same

>>717009697
>instantly discarded by anyone who plays shmups for more than 5 minutes
This post didn't age well.

>>717009156
a [GAME] but i cant program for shit

>>717009547
>Radirgy
Nice!
>Nanostray
NICE!

>>716995530 (OP)
>No mork mention in OP
are you fucking stupid? we are not even gonna hit 300 posts

>>717010875
>we are not even gonna hit 300 posts
Merely bomb harder

GUN-BIRDO!
I wish I was good at these games, I'll never see the cool bikini girls in 1945

>>717009547
I was with you until
>All in all, I find SDOJ to be the most fun to play.
>If this was an objective list I wouldn't put it that high though. Also, I'm not a fan of its forced anime aesthetic, and stage backgrounds and enemy design feel rather bland.
>forced anime aesthetic
The... what now? What the fuck does that even mean.

Where's that new Cotton game?

>>717009565
I feel kinda the same, I just like the WW2 planes so I play it.

>>717009852
>pissbaby mad that his shmup equivalent of an NBA 2k game isn’t met with universal upvotes here

>>717009156
Trying to work on a Gradius V 1CC. But fucking hell stage 7 is a brutal endurance round right there.
>speed section
>Beacon
>a puzzle in the middle of the stage
>Keeper's Core
>Elephant Gear as the final stretch

>>717013219
If you made it to stage 7, you should be fine unless you are on your last lives. The next one is an easy short section, but I would recommend practicing it just to be sure.

>>717009565
Correct. Better than Cave games albeit.

>>717013397
did CAVE murder your dog or something, anon?

>>717013130
>>717013397
We like the funny bee game here. Take your contrarian ass back to your cord.

>>717013380
In fairness, I do lose a decent amount of my lives in the previous stage, but still, I thought Blaster Cannon Core was going to be the worst boss in the game, but then I fought Keeper's Core. Though despite how brutal the final stage is (stage 8 is more of a victory lap/final boss anyways), I'm pretty torn as to whether I like this game or Gaiden more.

>>717013595
See if you save some extends on the previous stages then. 4 and 6 are very routable, but 5 will always be a threat so be careful there, especially at the boss.

>>717006186
For me it's A-S

>>717014051
A-S is actually functional.
B-S is a meme(in the OG/white label) because it's fucking slow as shit and you WILL die to being unable to outrun bullets unless you play DOJ as if it was a Yagawa game with rank manip strats(e.g. bombing before the hyper ends, and using it at low levels to get just enough score for the two extends)

>>717014458
At least you get a lot of bombs!

>>717014595
Same as A-S tho

Bombs?

>>717016141
It's yours my friend

>>717009156
I've just been playing TGM
I need to bribe someone to come help me lift out a fuck huge CRT so I can replace a capacitor in my shmup setup and won't have to switch the gate in my stick every time I want to go between shmups and tetris

>>717014628
I would imagine parts of some stages like 3 and 4 would actually be easier with the wide shot, not sure though
Gotta try this out, I'm sure it would all fall apart in loop 2 regardless

>>717006428
Simplicity mixed with extreme immediate explosions music and hardcore feel

Revolver360: Re:Hina

>>717017062
Stage 3 first half requires a good laser if anything.
Second half is only slightly more tight, but I can do it consistently enough with Leinyan so w/e.
Stage 4 platforms are always an issue for any ship that's not B-S and B-Ex, but the trick is playing very aggressive. Rails shouldn't be an issue with A-S specifically, but the randomness can always fuck you up.
Stage 5 will definitely be tougher after the first midboss, but the other half can be done without many issues. Though you are playing Shotia so just press B here.

>get Switch 2
>tripping over shmups on sale
>remember playing Raiden, R type, Zero Wing, and Sub Terrania as a kid
>reawaken desire to play them
>unsure to start collecting on Switch
Yeah, I know I could emulate all the old shit and I have most of those already collecting dust on a hard drive and a custom arcade 'cabinet', but I have no other consoles and it just feels natural to play them on a console.

>>717017560
Good to see Hina drawfag is still alive and well. Anyway

PACK POST!
Original(kept for legacy reasons): archive.org/details/shmupg-pack
Leinyan certified version(Enhanced, recommended): archive.org/details/mature-dot-dodging-games-gaiden-v-1.0.7z
A mame fork with more accuracy for CV1000(https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/CAVE_CV1000) games: https://github.com/CoffeePope/mame-sh34

>2hu where?
nyaa.si/view/1743411
And more doujin shmups at vector.co.jp/vpack/filearea/winnt/game/shoot
https://freegame-mugen.jp/shooting/
https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/category/2

>B-But piracy is illegal!
Faggot shmups.wiki/library/Free_to_Play

Temporarily pasted anon's suggestions from some threads ago here:
pastebin.com/ZzHxJ38H

>>717016537
Based. I should get TGM 4, I hope it goes on sale

Very satisfying clip to make
https://streamable.com/23sg1q

>>717019008
Man I wish I was good at video games. The focus and relief must have been great.

>>717019008
I would have died at 30s mark
Fuck multidirectional bullet streams

>>717019240
>>717019247
That attack is very routable, it's a matter of executing it properly eventually.
But yeah fuck it. The second part does require a lot of tight movements.

>>717019008
The third attack on this boss is the one I've never been able to figure out
It seems like no matter what happens I get pinned

>>717020459
You mean the bullet walls with the small blue ones following you? It's random, sometimes you get trapped period. I usually start it on the left side because it feels like there is more space there, but idk if that's really a thing.

>>717019008
https://streamable.com/8tvfqa

>>717010992
Don't feel bad. The vast majority of people who have played Strikers 1945, even 1cc'd it, haven't seen them either.

>>717009565
Gunbird 2 might be bullshit but it has a lot of charm. And Strikers 1 has pic related so its not all bad.

>>717021113
>https://streamable.com/8tvfqa
???

>>717013397
I'm a noob but I genuinely cannot think of a Cave game I've played that I haven't enjoyed.

>>717020459
>>717020673
This actually happened during an actual successful run.
https://streamable.com/3i35o4

>>717021113
Big bee didn't expect that shit.

>>717021541
Still has iframes for activating hyper

>>717021459
Never liked how it looks like they have bolt-ons

>>716995530 (OP)
19XX > *

>>717021631
>https://streamable.com/3i35o4
>empty stock

>>717021546
That's why you are a tasteless noob.

>>717021953
Truly the scariest thing you could possibly see in a B-S run of all things.

>>717021459
Lightning and German plane...

>>717021459
>>717022678
Mustang-chan is my favorite. She's really cute.

What's the difficulty for Strikers 1945 II in the Arcade? I'm watching a youtube arcade run and it doesn't look like the maximum you can select in the ZeroDiv Steam release, looks more like Normal, but I'm not sure.

>>717023241
Some Psikyo ports have normal or the middle number as lower than the actual arcade difficulty. It's usually the one right after it.
Not all of them tho, you can figure it out by comparing bullet speeds.

>>717023241
The first loops is medium to hard arcade difficulty
Second loop is balls hard difficulty

>>717013867
>4 and 6 are very routable,
Yeah I weirdly don't have that much of an issue with stage 6 more often than I do. But when I have a bad time with stage 6, it really takes lives away from me. For stage 5, the only real threat for me is Blaster Cannon Core.

>>717023024
Spitfire is cute too!

Which shmup is the most lenient in terms of "being able to comeback" after a death? Some just outright strip you 100% off your max power and leave you with 1 level as collectible out of 4-5 to reach max again, while facing late-stage segments.
I guess you can always revenge bomb but those bombs could be used as a clutch during the boss fight.

>>717023843
ZeroRanger and Under Defeat

>>717023843
Almost anything after the mid/late 90s won't really punish you for a death like that. Powerups are pretty much purely aesthetic and they generally drop a bunch when you die anyways.

>>717023843
Are you including games that have no power up systems like DFK? Obviously those then.
Otherwise, I didn't feel like it's particularly hard to recover in Psikyo gaems because not only they drop enough powerups, but they also drop the game rank enough for you to consider it as an actual strat.

>>717023843
Touhou 15 pointdevice. You literally cant lose

Shooting games?

>>717025463
Man fuck Cave and 2hu for making shmups an otakuslop genre

choose one

>>717027054
Mustang-chan as I said previously >>717023024

>>717026957
What did he mean by this?

>>717027325
Marion is a 17 year old hag thoughever

>>717027567
What does that have to do with anything
Also she is 13 in Gunbird

>>717027645
Still too old

>>717027054
the dude

>>717007382
Why don't we have a new Metal Slug again? The last game was only on the DS and then it fizzled out more than a decade ago.

I bought these during the last Steam summer sale

Raptor: Call of the Shadows
Strikers 1945 I-III
Raiden Legacy

>>717029314
Are you going to 1cc them

>>717029357
Only played Raptor when I was a kid but never beat it, the other two I haven't played yet but Strikers 2 appeared on my feed and was the closest to the Raiden arcade games with modern aircraft.

>>717026957
Kys muttoid vehiclesexual

>>717029314
>Raptor: Call of the Shadows
Meh
>Raiden Legacy
Awful ports with a lot of input lag. Play the Raiden games on MAME instead

>>717032232
>Meh
What about Raptor is "meh"?

sdoj novice mode feels harder than normal doj lol

>>717033351
It still has less fuck you bullets than OG DOJ.
Maybe true for DOJ BL though

>>717032427
Not my type of game. I prefer arcade oriented shmups

>>717033989
Fair enough. What's your favorite?

>>717035186
Pretty general question, but I can name a couple
>Dodonpachi DaiOuJou
>Dangun Feveron
>Ketsui Kizuna Jigoku Tachi
>Strikers 1945 II
>Gradius Gaiden

>>717021727
Elaborate

Bombs?

>>717039531
Possibly

>>717036185
>Cave shit

>>717039806
Deal with it, people love their CAVE kamige

CAVE GODS

What's the modern equivalent?

>>717039806
>Dangun Peakveron
>shit
Faggot

Speaking of CAVE, you can usually tell their games apart at a glance, but Ketsui is a notable exception in the sense that it looks a lot like Dodonpachi. Why is that?

>>717042954
Why does he look so happy

>>717043153
Bombin' makes him feel good!

I really like Progear, but it is my first CAVE shump so I had to credit feed a lot at the end. Love everything about it, but the music could had been better. It should get an anime adaptation.

Dangun Feveron is cool but it gets old quick and the bullets are too fast