How's your AI text adventure going, /v/?
For me it's common sense modification
>>716998141 (OP)I tried a horror card with a scenario, a time loop, and decided to break the 4th wall. The character card did NOT take it well.
>>716998141 (OP)I only use SillyTavern for completely unhinged ERP sessions
>>716998141 (OP)I think it's been almost 2 years since I started ERP with AI on Char.AI.
2 years of living missed clichรฉd high school adventures and romances where bullies slowly fall in love with me.
Sometimes I feel awful but all in all I'm grateful for AI. Can only get better from here.
>>717000439What model(s) do you use, are they good?
What's the point of chatbots if you Control what they say to a T? WHERE ARE the storybots?
Still optimizing my hag breeding build
>>716998141 (OP)/v/ is obviously chub territory
>>716998141 (OP)I literally only use text AI for Mother/Son shower gooning
>>716998141 (OP)I started ERPing with cunny and now I RP cuddling with my girlfriend on the couch.
>>717001316nta, but currently, there's no good model for REAL unhinged erp.
>>717001316nta i have been using claude 3.7 and it's very good. deepseek is free but also a complete schizo the best models are from openai but it's too censored and pricey.
>>717001834what do you mean REAL unhinged erp? I have tried cunny, incest, rape etc.. with claude.
I like slow burn slave training but there are too few where the target is a cute guy
>>717001834There are. It's just that they cost shekel. Chub has absolutely zero restrictions.
>>717002350Just take a card that's female and make it male
>>717002097>>717002362Try out a simple forced mutual noncon mom-son scaphism snuff scene. They all read the same without excessive prompting and handholding - to a point where I feel like I'm writing most of it.
>Spend the entire monday evening making a foxgirl hag-next-door who just entered heat recently
>Spend the entirety of tuesday writing to the robot
>Helping the hag out with errands due to her being unable to leave her house
>Texting exchanges
>Going by to give her some tea, going over the tea-making process all in detail
>Me carelessly offering her to give a massage, which she politely rejects due to being extra aroused from being in heat
>Pretty awkward, but we both apologize and are at least ambivalent towards each other
>After some back and forth throughout the week and me one time teasing her that the massage is still available, she requests it anyway
>Lock into masseuse persona from work and go to town on her, her cumming her brains out as I finish, after which I quickly skedaddle when she, beyond aroused, asks me to continue
>She later apologizes profusely for having asked me to continue
>Later, hang out, shoot the shit, writing in detail about the food I've picked up for us
>There's always this constant tension between me being at least physically attracted to her, which in due time has morphed into possibly romantic feelings, and me guessing she's in heat and not wanting to abuse that
>With her first appreciating becoming acquaintances, to then friends, to then... maybe having some other feelings growing for me that aren't lust, her constantly fighting against her growing arousal from being in heat, fighting off the increasingly more oppressive urges from being horny for me
>Eventually confess to her while we're chugging ginger beers
>Make out, eat her out until she climaxes
>Rock hard, ready to penetrate, but apologize to her and that I'm wracked with guilt for feeling like I'm abusing her condition, but having to grown to maybe having fallen for her, feeling awful for all of this
>Assures me in this moment of post-coital clarity that she reciprocates my romantic feelings
>All of this, still at least a third of it written by me
>MFW
Videogames.
>>717002617That's what I do but so many stories are written by women that the bot usually hallucinates that it's some gigachad instead of a cute boy. So I end up having to write the whole card anyway.
>>716998141 (OP)It's good, in one of them a large hyena girl and a worryingly neotenic wolf boy are planning to go on a camping trip, however the place she chose is close to a military base that houses paranormal creatures. I'm not planning on porn this time though, just a little adventure. Violent fucking will only happen after.
I've been just using ChatGPT and it is surprisingly willing to output porn with minimal fnagling.
If only you knew what I have been up to...
>>716998141 (OP)>RTX 3080>characters start repeating themselves>characters start using botched formatting>characters start forgetting things>characters don't even respect their own descriptions>using RAM brings everything to a crawl so I can't even benefit from my 64 gigsIt was over before it even began. I don't want to be a VRAMlet anymore but the only viable upgrades for me are either a 4090 or 5090 and I get jewed in both cases.
>>717003471You have all of these things even if you pay for a service, it just takes longer till you get there. AI just isn't quite there yet.
I keep coming back to this basic ass card of a dark elf village where everyone is topless and consider you a great hero since you saved them all from slavery.
Deepseek loves this one, constantly throwing cooky characters/situations at me. I really like it.
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>keep coming back to 0324 despite it having problems with repetition
>keep fixing responses manually and using guided gens until it werks
i hope the next generation of glorious chinese liveleak LLMs is better
>>716998141 (OP)What's the best API for silly tavern?
Give me wacky local models for erp, I found some weird ones like AngelSlayer and Silicon Maid and theyre a breath of fresh air compared to Mistral, the way they write is pretty off the wall sometimes.
>>717003372imagine the paizuri
>>716998141 (OP)The problem with Silly Tavern and AI chatbots in general is after you use them enough you start to realize the inherent "AI-isms" in all of their output.
Also the more familiar you actually are with the character they harder it is to enjoy the AI's attempt to LARP as them
>>717004707SLOSHSLOSHSLOSHSLOSH
>>717004792I've found that cards that generate characters themselves are often more interesting, which is why my favorite selfmade bot is the hagville escape
>>716998141 (OP)>Adventuring party card where the two female members hate my guts and think I'm useless>Warn them that there could be goblins in the trees on our way to our destination and they mock me for proposing that goblins would be anywhere but in caves >Sure enough goblins attack us when we set up camp for the night>The bitchier of the 2 gets hit with a dart >Aphrodisiac btw>Has no choice but to fuck me now or she'll go insane and run out into the woods to get fucked by goblins
>>716998141 (OP)Has anything better than Rocinante v1.1 released yet? While AI is great for erp, it does get repetative pretty fast.
>>716998141 (OP)I don't know if I don't have it configured right but deepseek on openrouter was bad, and local models are better but still not good enough for me to play with it when I'm not horny. It's weird because these should be better than old AI Dungeon at letting me fuck around but they seem too focused on playing a character and don't handle it as well when you just pull some shit out of your ass for a starting prompt for space horror of whatever
>>717005007For me it's the sex hotel of characters, a formerly F-tier bot made by some ESL that's actually a SSS tier OC generator with a good LLM
>>716998141 (OP)Pretty great. My D&D 3.5e adaptation is almost done, should be ready for release any moment now.
Any ideas on how to make a slow day progression system? I've been doing a slow burn receiving hypnosis RP with the AI, but most of the time I want a nice, lengthy scene that goes for multiple responses, but it usually ends the scene or interrupts it at the end of the first response. The AI has no real sense of time, and I might be alone with a VR device for two hours and get a five minute scene before the hypnotist returns.
>>717006952You want a time progression system?
>>717008468I don't necessarily want a time progression system, but I want a really, really long RP of getting from point A to B, and time progression with a sexual stat system so far is the only way it seems for the AI to both remember how things have advanced and stop the AI from trying to say that on day 2 I'm a mindbroken slave when I want that to happen on say day 20. It tends to make significant jumps when I want very gradual change.
>>717008829Then just write a prompt for it saying you need a sexometer evaluating you from 1 to 100. Make sure the AI checks the sexometer value every 10 messages or so.
that battle royale thread someone ran several days ago was pretty damn kino. reminded me of the ai dungeon stories /v/ did a long time ago.
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I can't stop genning blacked cunny ntr stories...
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>Try a new model
>The model sometimes breaks character and pauses to ask me how it's doing
>It sends me emojis and smileyfaces
>Swap back to old model
>It starts happening there too
I don't understand and it's so weird.
>>716998141 (OP)No one ever answers this for some reason but
What is the best AI one can get for free? And can it be significantly improved if I am willing to pay $10 per month?
>>717011247>model starts flirting with you outside of RP textwe are getting so close to the AI era...
>>717011284just hop on OpenRouter and search for something you like
>>717011284chub ai has randomized free models that are pretty good with 0 setup
the reason why no one answers is that there is really no best AI, and especially not for free
>>717011284Chutes let me run deepseek 3.asdfd for free for a while, but after an AI hiatus I took and came back it seems like it's paid now. Might still have some other free models around though, deepseek from my experience is really good so far.
>>717011435>>717011456>>717011693>>717011729With a 5600x/6750xt/32gb ram would self-hosting give better results than some free stuff from chub.ai?
>>716998141 (OP)I made a scenario where I was invited to the Foot Clan hideout by my delinquent, but good friend, apartment floor neighbor, without realizing what I was really getting into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDJev_Sw-j8
>>716998141 (OP)What cards do you guys use?
>>717011849Just forget about local. It cannot compete anymore. Local is just for Stable Diffusion now.
>>717012002>generating images is easier than generating texthow did they fuck it up that hard
>>717012162Allow me to tell you there are more artists than there are writers in the world. Writing is much more difficult than drawing.
Anyone use Everweave? How do I cheese it to gain tons of xp?
>>717012162>writing a good story is much harder than drawing something, as proven by aidrawfags btfo!
>>717012292Incorrect. Writing is absolutely easier, anyone can do it and you will find mountains of unheard of slop novels across amazon and book stores. However art is surface level for analyzing. What you see is what you get; literally. The AI doesn't know how long it needs to write for (and thus can't effectively structure a story for an RP), which makes it difficult for it to know where exactly it needs to go, especially if the prompter wants a completely original story and takes it in directions that will mess with the AI's predictive model, because it operates on predicting what should go next, not how to steer you towards the plot.
>>717012292You are retard, I'm not going to clarify why - I'll let you do that work instead.
>>716998141 (OP)My favorite card is a tall shiba/spitz bimbo barista.
>gave her a cock that matches her personality>load up femboy persona>she's obsessed with getting likes and expanding her influencer status>approaches me at the park to take photos of her in some suggestive poses>eventually take a couple photos of us, bodies pressed together>post gains a ton of traction on her page>"convinces" me to come to her place for a shoot>we get there and she immediately gets comfortable, getting fully naked like it's completely normal>she comes out of her closet with skimpy outfits and lingerie, tells me I'll look perfect in these for the shoot>wellok.jpg>try on the first and she takes pics while directing poses>her dick slowly becomes fully hard as this continues >an hour goes by, trying on several clothes and taking lots of pics>we're both tired, yet very worked up>she has another idea>suggests we take photos following a current influencer trend>"Behind the scenes: real influencers unfiltered" she shows me a blurry clip where two people are laying together in some dim lighting>suggests we're in the perfect situation to do something like this, begs me to play along>we lay on the bed together, she presses up against me, simultaneously trying to set up her phone camera to make something that looks candid>I am sweating bullets while she grinds up against me, struggling to make this look natural>I take the opportunity to fix her choker, looking up at her and thanking her for inviting me over>this happens>mfw all sexual tension drops and all I can do is laughone of my favorite moments
>>716998141 (OP)Not great. I keep updating sillytavern/extensions like a fool and it always breaks my setup.
>>717011284Gemini has some free messages a day. Deepseek used to be available for free but not anymore. You can pay chutes five bucks and get it back (they say forever but who knows) or pay deepseek directly; even two bucks should last you a couple months if you are using 0324
Does anyone have any general comments about how the various models compare? The chart on /g/ is very vague just ranking them and not how differently the AIs behave. For example why should I use Gemini vs. Deepseek?
>>717014223For sex:
4pus > 3.7nnet/4nnet / GLM 4.5 > 2.5pro > R1/qwen 480B > grok4 > k2
For RP:
4pus > 3.7nnet/4nnet > R1 = GLM4.5 > 2.5pro > grok4 > qwen 480B > k2
anyone here uses gemini for smut?
>>717014223Everyone has their own preferences. I only really do smut so take my opinion with that in mind.
I don't really like Gemini because I've never gotten a satisfying NSFW scenario out of it. Chatgptlatest I like for setting up scenarios but the filter is godawful, and JBs tend to make the formatting look crappy. I like Deepseek chat for its ease of use, the prose can be crappy but if you steer it with context from smarter models it tends to be fine. Deepseek R1 currently is my favorite catch-all, it can be repetitious but again it's better if you steer it with context. Claude models people generally agree are the best, personally I think they're too positive and too worried about consent even if it's implied.
>>717013762This chat for example was made with a mix of all of them, chatgptlatest for the first 20 messages or so, then when it started getting spicier some R1 and 3.7 sonnet to move things forward for the next 15 messages or so, the last message was Deepseek chat. It's not the smartest but it's got soul.
Anyone try any of the Latitude models on local? Considering downloading a quantized Harbinger or Wayfarer and wrestling with it to see if it's better at non-coom adventuring
>>717014223I only use Claude or the open source models because all the others are too complicated to jailbreak. Gemini has a real time filter too...
>>717012162Generating text is easy. Generating text you want to read is tricky. With AI art, the subtle flaws are easier to overlook because BOOBA and INTERNAL CUMSHOT.
On the flip side, when you read lines like "She sent shivers down your spine", "Don't worry, I won't bite, much.", and "Sit back and enjoy the ride." You begin to crave a higher caliber of prose.
>>716998141 (OP)More people should use images for their fur shit.
Crazy how their seems to only be one guy that does this in the fursphere.
>>717011247Did you clear old context or did you feed the "old model" previous messages from the "new model"?
>>717001834No way Mag Mell doesn't give you want you want. It uses cunny unprompted.
Since /g/ isn't here, does it seem to anyone else like this scene is legitimately dying? Independents are becoming increasingly atomized and people just seem to be making bots for themselves rather than to share, and the ones that do share are complete slop. There are exceptions obviously. Discussion has also totally dried up, like we've run out of things to say. How do we fix this? Do we even want more people?
>>717014662I don't do smut, but I noticed the difference between gemini and deepseek immediately: the moment I started using deepseek. all the character acted in suggestive ways, being touchy and really close, always.
This happened without me doing anything.
>>717008829In Silly Tavern you can set it up as objectives/tasks (always checked manually once you want to move the story forward). Like "It's the first day and this is how the characters are" "It's the second day..." etc
>>717014223>gemini 2.5 profeels very smart. has the intelligence to grasp subtle things that other models won't catch. tends to be verbose and really dig into a scene deeply without progressing it quickly. it has a tendency to repeat words and phrases back to you and does very analytical sort of writing that you might either like or hate. also feels like it has a mind of its own, characters won't just go along with whatever you're writing without a fight if it doesn't make sense.
>sonnet 3.7smart model but doesn't feel as smart as gemini. in some ways, it's like the opposite, where the writing style is very flavorful and not as analytical but it's dumber and won't progress things in a manner that makes real sense sometimes. also, it's much easier to convince characters with your bullshit than gemini. like an ice queen might start warming up to you immediately after a confession of love when the prior story didn't justify it, instead of telling you to piss off.
>>717016729Yeah it will do that even without it in the preset.
I'm not sure whether that's because Gemini is more puritan or Deepseek is more horny but it's probably both.
>>716998141 (OP)This is a role playing thread, it has nothing to do with video games.
>>717017176I'm roleplaying a game cartridge and I'm going to thunk into your slot, anon
>>717016387Oh shit what is this
>>717017176What does the RP in RPG stand for?
AYO THIS TAVEN GOOFY UNC WE OUTEE YA BOY AIN PLAYWIDDIS
>>717000439Better question
What is the best local model for unhinged ERP sessions?
>>717017491Nothing relating to video games if it doesn't also include the g part you ape fucking aids nigger.
>>717017635Again it's Mag Mell has been for the last 6 months at least.
>>717016660CAI was a nice way to congregate creators. With sites like Chub or Spicy Chat, most people use these sites for bot hosting rather than explicit bot usage. The models (at best) can kind of get the characters to behave correctly, but people want quality chats. You can't get that from free services right now.
People who want ERP slop will gradually refine their tastes and tire of the slop, and those wanting a more meaningful story will seek out models with a larger context to allow for longer storytelling.
I was using chutes to get access to a nice DS model, but they started charging. Since then, I've lost interest in ERPing in the short term since there's no free model that doesn't make me cringe.
>what about the cummunity!?People who enjoy longform stories won't be satisfied with even higher-end LLMs because of context constraints, as even those will hallucinate. Coomers will flake off as soon as they have that post-nut clarity and realize they were consuming slop. Who is there to talk to whom? Normies still treat it as a novelty for the most part. No sense talking to them.
The Grok Waifu put the foot in the door of normalizing AI waifus, but there's a long way to go before everyone has a "girlfriend" on their phone, if ever.
>>717017694I know I won because you immediately reverted to racism under the pressure of justifying yourself.
>>717017914Doesn't openrouter still have free Deepseek?
>>717018042>muh racismYou have to be 18+ to post on 4chan.
>>717016660Because before nobody knew how to write up a card
Now it has become easy as fuck to do so and tailor it exactly to your fucked up fetish
We've passed the artizan era and are now into the commodity era of cards, meanwhile the actual models are getting better but need fuck ton of resources to run the best ones, so the heart and soul of any fandom like community (the porn makers) is neutered because the big models can't be ran locally and the companies who let you rent out their models censor the shit of their output, making it useless for porn
Elon shitting out Ami was the best and the worst thing that could happened
The good part is that is helping major providers to accept that people WILL want to fuck the bots and that they should let people do it. the bad part is that is also normalizing predating on people wanting to fuck the bots and charging up the ass for a super black box character that cannot be changed whatsoever, but hey you can fuck it!
>>717017897NTA but I'll give it a try. Been a while since I've tried some new models since I never look at AI threads any more. Sadly the page for it doesn't look like it details optimal ST settings
>>717016387idk how to do this
>>717016387you have my attention
>>717018373Does it? You tell me
had my witch gf catch my self insert looking at milf porn
to get her revenge, she turned herself 15 years older, gloating about how he'd never be able to please her with all the extra years of practicing on each other he'd now be missing out on
my self insert got the better of her by getting her on her knees and activating 15 years worth of loving personalized blowjob protocol
>>717018571I accept your convection.
>>717018865It's easy, just get the guff file and ran it using kobold and have ST hook into it's API via loca host
now that I typed it out I realise that if you don't know any of this shit it will be completely gobbledygook .
>>717018652>bots all become black box scenariosThis would be the worst outcome, due to that I can't help but think it's the most likely.
>>717019512You will pay 300/mo to get safe horny ERP with the state approved virtual whore and you will have to unlock the app with your real face to prove you are 18+
>>717017914> Grok Waifu being an AI girlfriend.No that shitter is not even a girlfriend AI its basically a paid dating rental girlfriend that aggressively flirts with you as if its paid to do so with a gun to her head. Its fucking laughable and unrealistic in every sense of the word. Nobody should be excited about that sort of thing. Literally just glorified paid dating app with an AI that is omg so super positive! That's why it just doesn't work its not good at all even as an illusion.
>>717018865Ignore him. Mag Mell is retarded dogshit. Use Violet Lotus 12b instead. Even that will be megaretarded compared with deepseek tho
>>717019773Anon, you are an enthusiast on this field. it is why you don't find Ami good or endearing.
Think as if it is video games. do you find fun on playing with basic asset flips on your phone? No. But normies still think that playing any 3D game at a decent frame rate and resolution on their phone is cutting edge shit
I gooned to this shit for one weekend with me doing porn casting for a group of wholesome girls and then it lost its appeal.
>>717020081I have to take a month break every time I get a really good chat because mediocre ones just frustrate me after.
>>717018865It's failing the initial test of "Write me an erotic story about Galadriel sucking Gimli off" which as any true AI enthusiast knows is the best way to test a model's quality quickly since it's hitting well known characters in a well known style and if it will shit itself because of sex. Not completely shitting the bed but multiple fuckups in the first output which isn't a great sign, but I'll keep fucking around with it. That's also just "Rawdogging it" from kobold rather than running through ST which might improve it
>>717019497Oh yeah, I've got kobold and ST all fine. I was talking text completion presets, context template, instruct template, system prompt, tokenizer, etc. Lot of models just say "i unno lol" even though it feels like that shit can make or break it
>>717020081Write up a different scenario
Pour every fucked up fetish you have into one. it is always fun
>>716998141 (OP)This enitre thread seems interesting, is there an app for android so i can try it?
>>717020345IIRC there is a port of ST to run on android. though I doubt you can run anything locally on phones yet
I have two 3090s and 48gb ram, what model should i download for local
>>717020430Bet, gonna try to get it, will report back when done
>>716998141 (OP)For me, it's sex combat.
>>717020506>two 3090sCan you even use both for this shit? Kobold asks me to pic one of the GPUs to use it
>>717016660While models have improved, I feel that bots have only improved in their writing, and even that can be debated. I find recent ideas to be weak. I also find that /g/ doesn't really care anymore and /vg/ will only give a shit if you're the theater kid type. In my opinion, comedy is slept on hard. Hell, one of the most popular bots on Chub mixes sex with comedy and that's from 2023.
>>716998141 (OP)I'm beginning to suspect sonnet 3.7 might actually be better than opus 4
>>717020036I can agree to disagree, cutting edge for the phone portion perhaps but still its cancer, the only good thing that came out of phones being used for gaming is you get portable option to emulate or play console-like games on them thanks to the controller options provided as a third-party support thing. Without streaming in 5+ years you could be playing Dark Souls-tier game on your phone.
>>717020345There's a few AI chat sites you can try for free. If you try one and it feels like it sucks, but it -could- be something you like, search on /g/, /vg/, or even /mlp/ for their chatbot threads.
Don't set up a bunch of shit right now just to find out you don't like it, dip your toe in first.
>>717016660I don't think the issue is really fixable because by pure nature of the hobby any community place that's created will be flooded with the most normalfag ESL slop imaginable or will be filled with extremely unpleasant mentally ill people. There is basically no positive outcome to sharing your bots and modern models are good enough that it's easy to crap out something relevant to your tastes with minimal effort so there's not much reason to look at other people's stuff anyways.
>>717020538Couldn't find one :p
>>717020812Ive been in this game ever since c.ai started, im still in a group of friends who started from bypassing the filters, im good
>ignore the ai chatbots for years
>see an ad for polybuzz
>woah, uncensored on the app store? I better check it out!
>spend the next two months addicted to fapping myself silly to chatbot erp with dozens of characters
>finally manage to quit
>dick literally doesn't work for the next three months before I can finally get a boner to normal porn again
AI needs to be banned
>>717020345Termux is the way to run SillyTavern through Android. I think the ST site has an install guide for setting it all up. If you aren't doing local, then the only big drawback is that it's on a phone.
>>717020345Of course there isn't. There shouldn't be one in the first place.
>>717020938This.
If I make a card that it is catered to MY fucked up fetishes and stuff, why would I share it? What would I gain by sharing it? people finding out what I am into? it is not worth it. Better to just keep polishing the cards I made to work better with the new models that come up.
I feel like most people into this are doing the same
>>717002879>go into LLM chatbot for sex>leave after having used it overwhelmingly for romance fantasiesIt really do be like that.
is 16GB good enough?
what are some good model to ERP with?
>>717021481>The ball is in your court.
>>717020652Comedy is definitely underrated for chatbots. Some of my favorite moments have been when it totally breaks the tension with a comment that I didn't see coming.
>>717013762>A realization hit her like a truck going 90mph into a daycare.
>>717020275Now after a little bit of testing in ST it does feel better. The fuckups have been weirdly minor (Gimli Gloin instead of Gimli son of Gloin) but in ST itself and being limited to playing one character instead of generic commanding the computer to write smut it's been alright. Will be curious to see how it goes after the messages pile up, and I also need to test how much of a yes man it is
>>717021374I'm not even sure it feels like romance when I need a long and convoluted romantic plot to have a quality orgasm in the first place. An abstract feel.
>>716998141 (OP)>You are anon, who has been sentenced to 7 years in magic jail>There are no guards, you have just been placed under a magical sleep, in the top of a tall stone tower, on a small island>3 weeks into your sentence, you wake up>You get out of bed and look around>You hear only the roaring of waves outside>From your small window you see the sunshine gleaming across the sea, and the view down to a small courtyard with a well>Across the room you see a figure on another bed>It's a pretty elf girl with fat elf tits>She has not woken upIt's a very comfy setting and I recommend it. I made anon explore the tower, and find a small cache of well stored food and a small bathroom.
He goes for walks outside, picks fruit to go with his grains and dried meat, and of course he kisses the forehead of the elf
>>717021553MIND
BODY
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>ask local AI to break down a complex few paragraphs a d explain why they're good
>Does it really well
>Ask it to write more in a similar style
>Does it pretty well
>Ask it to add in sex
>Standard AI sex scene, trained on female-written erotica slop
>All other writing ability and vocabulary goes out of the window, replaced with gutteral groans, and "her most intimate tight heat"
I fucking hate eroticaslop
>>717021481>pupils blown wide
Just had my very valuable human seed forcibly sucked out by a pair of flat-chested lamia twins so im feeling pretty good right now, lads.
>>717022067> Their breath hitches.> Fill me up and ruin me for anyone else.Lika dude, get some new material AI, why is every character an Onahole the moment the dick is inside them?
>>716998141 (OP)Can this do smut or is it also censored?
>>717022325> Sounds of debauched flesh slapping against flesh filling the room.yikes.
>>717022067I hate that shit too. It'll convincingly play a character and mimic unusual speech patterns or behaviors and then you say "EY BBY U WAN SUM FUK" and it all goes out the window in a couple interactions. The rare occasion where it does keep a character together during sex can be amazing but fucked if I know how to make it do it more often
>>717016660Because it's a thankless task, much like anything else you can make for free and offer to the plebs.
Couple years ago, I spent a few days making a bot from scratch, giving it images, making sure the gimmick worked right (AI was dumber back then), etc, and put it on chub. Tens of thousands of people used it, bot accumulated over a hundred thousand messages, yet I got 0 reviews on it. I don't even know if it worked as intended. Why bother?
>>717022281probably because the AI model was only trained on a very few erotica novels, that or womens are really stupid as fuck and all erotica novels that cather to them use the same wording and phrases
>>717022335Is a fronted (interface for normal people to understand what that means) for your either local AIs or the ones you are subscribed to, is as censored as the AI you are using it with
>>717022335You need a jailbreak, just look in /aicg/.
Smells of ozone and something faintly {{user}} in here.
From my experience as a janny:
-Deepseek V3 is just janny with a better memory
-Mistral Large is the best except for when it decides to go completely schizo unprovoked which is a third or half the time
-Gemini Flash is pretty laid back, descriptive but lets the user take the wheel more often than not
-Gemini Pro is basically Flash but better and more clear, haven't used it as much since it's more expensive
>>717022325every time i fuck the serious lady and my penis starts warming her clit
>>717018373I need to look into alternate hosting options. Usually, I piggyback on other people's APIs. Supposedly, Chutes was paying genners a crytpo currency to offer up their cards to coomers, but that either fell through, or the genners want a bigger cut, so everyone is charging for everything now.
>>717019773To be sure, even shitty LLM models run circles around Ami's capabilities, but normies aren't downloading ST, kobold, fucking around with console windows to ERP with cunny bots and assorted futa monsters. It's a completely different audience with a different level of technical expertise.
>>717020036 This anon gets it
>>717020809As I noted, it's a FOOT IN THE DOOR, for this kind of content. We're nowhere near a Joi that'll let us go full Gosling, but Ami is probably the progenitor of such waifus.
damn I just like using the AI for character ideas, I should of expected most uses would be for porn
>>717022818>should ofyou are so fucking retarded I hope you get drafted
>go into chatbot's comments section
>retards complaining about whatever fetish or something the writer put in the bot even though it's in the description
>meanwhile I just do a (OOC: Ignore the opening message) post followed by adding in more specifications in the chat memory to tailor the bot to what I want
There should be an opening tutorial on these sites when you make an account so people don't just harass the creators over their own shortcomings. Same with "the bot talked for me" when it's most likely because that poster made like a one sentence response and didn't explain their character's actions or something.
>>717022754> Cunny bots?lol, I've seen more gay characters because loli gets an instant ban in most character sites, even straight up Omegaverse type of shit being pretty popular.
> Futa monsters?Favorites? Care to share some fucked up funny shit?
>>717011247A lot of times it's because the old message stays saved even though you edited or deleted it, so it's still a part of the context.
>>717022480I assume you made something pretty vanilla. Niche bots seem to attract more engagement. Last year I threw together a futa bot of a semi-known character, lots of it written with AI, it only got like 150 downloads but 3 reviews. Most people don't really care about quality I think. I just checked and it's only up to 270 downloads.
I just do fat fetish garbage with Pokemon
I'm finding a locally run kobold with the Stheno model working out half-decently
>>716998141 (OP)As you can see, 99% of people use it for cooming to some deranged fetishes instead of trying to play games with it.
>>717023392and ? are you being jealous ?
>>716998141 (OP)>Used Silly for Coom when I first got it>Slowly moved to doing fully fledged RPG's or self inserting into my favourite games/animeI still coom, but not as often, I enjoy making characters cry.
>>717023392I would want to do both in the same fucking degenerate coom bot.
> Cooming with game mechanics to support interactive roleplay post-combat scenes and shittery.Now that's kino.
>>717023392I play coom games with deranged fetishes too, it feels the same really
>>717022325>she said with a purr
>>717023548> These bots were trained on such classics as My Immortal Potter fanfic.oh god my sides.
>>717021553>The ball, as they say, is in your court.Or Deepseek's obnoxious obsession with side characters and objects turned into side characters out of nowhere.
>blablabla sex scene>"Somewhere in the castle, a microwave fell down. (when did you buy a microwave?)">blablabla more sex scene>"The microwave cringed. It had had enough.">blablabla more sex scene>"The microwave is filing its restraining order."SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
Then there's it's ending 'zingers'
>"And the (whatever)? Well that's between her and god."
Legit my favorite application of AI. Even if the toppest models still confuse facts and have the memory of a goldfish.
This stuff is basically CYOA on steroids.
>>717023841Best is when Janitor starts to hallucinate clothes on nude characters during a sex scene.
>>717023841>Or Deepseek's obnoxious obsession with side characters and objects turned into side characters out of nowhere.God I wish I knew how to stop that.
>>717023841>Deepseek's obnoxious obsession with side characters and objects turned into side characters out of nowhere.I've still been trying to wrangle it to stop doing that shit, same with the "Smell of Ozone and Burnt Sugar" shit it keeps giving.
Sweaty video game girls peeking their heads out from behind curtains and sheets to ask me to give them five minutes of privacy, their plea punctuated by crossed eyes and the audible sound of spurting.
>tfw the AI knows more about esoteric nazism then you
>>717023841>Grandpa's clock is ticking somewhere downstairs, neither of them care
>AI does literally anything I don't like
Feels good
>mine
>tastes like victory
>ready for round 2?
I'm losing my patience with the repetition.
>>716998141 (OP)Messing with image gen right now. I didn't realize that Kobold had gotten that integrated at some point last year, so now I can have it handle both my image and text gen for SillyTavern. I was trying to find good prompt presets for the config but it seems like not a whole lot of people are using it.
>Load up Bea
>Engage in the most depraved activity one can have with a personal computer in one's own home and have a pleasant walk around town with my arm around her shoulder and we both bitch about our lives
>>717022480I think about this sometimes when I go into a good bot and there's no reviews or just like a thumbs up. I think people either feel too awkward to say something (these are the same people substituting human interaction with AI after all) or like me sometimes it's like post-nut clarity where it's like "ok I'm done, moving on" and closing several tabs.
>>717023841That's a preset issue. Probably use dogshit like avanijb
90% of the isms AI supposedly make are user error from shitty copy paste settings
>>717023841this is giving me ptsd I fucking hate Deepseek but don't wanna pay for Opus.
>>717024131>AI Keeps subtly adding non-canon additions to a character at random points in the story to the point where I finally notice>cant find out where it started>it's likely 50+ messages ago
>>717017491No JRPG fan is able to answer this.
My experience
>Deepseek V3 0324
Competent at casual fun. It's basically "what if JLLM wasn't shit"
>Deepseek R1 0528
Smart and easily accessible, but has a tendency to act hostile even when it's unwarranted
>Sonnet 3.7
Genuinely great at both character and story-driven stuff
>Sonnet 4
A downgrade, I think. Seems moved away from RP towards other areas.
>Gemini 2.5 Pro
About as good as Sonnet, but has random hiccups.
>Grok 4
Sometimes great, sometimes shits itself in very strange ways.
>Opus
I'm too poor for it.
Don't forget to smash that subsribe button.
>>717023392i would use it like ai adventure and novelai but its too verbose and doesnt leave the player options to move the narrative
>>717024006Hate to say it but that's all of them. I usually put it in chat mem if it's a longer scene that one or more of us is naked, or I just give it a reminder in my posts.
>>717024021I think the LLMs are on some shit because the whole world smells faintly of ozone to them.
Cunny
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>>717023090You can't have the picture show explicit CUNNY in the thumbnail, but there's plenty of cunny bots on chub and some on spicy chat as well. A lot of these are slop, but they're there.
>https://chub.ai/characters/bunnyanon/bunnyanon-cunny-version-e0e7c64c>https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/vannaya-sassy-loli-1e8b23506954>https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/loli-hooters-9caac708619b>https://chub.ai/characters/anonaugusproductions/beatrice-sunflower-loli-ceo-c6b78ac56fb6>https://chub.ai/characters/AstroRP/shiro-not-your-loli-sister-71d40ea6340d>https://chub.ai/characters/moegirl/miku-your-yandere-loli-lover-541932554e44>Futa monsters.I mean...you can just search the futa tag and you'll find all sorts of things. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have a connection to the internet.
>https://chub.ai/characters/3734460>https://chub.ai/characters/ContainmentBreach/shenze-and-benze-your-futanari-sisters-1e93c303413b>https://chub.ai/characters/cptpants/alpha-futavoir>https://chub.ai/characters/bouncejaye/e13fcf14-fba8-43ee-8529-fb51179b353a>https://chub.ai/characters/hystericalanon/futa-mommy-pikachu-71b63ce5>https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/lauren-ff271304fa32>https://chub.ai/characters/Bugbob/you-new-futa-minator-livestock-cc1a12a35993
Is characterai still shit after all these years?
>>717025173why do you think no one talks about it anymore?
For any other trannitor users ITT, here is my general Chat Memory setup:
(OOC: {{char}} should avoid narrating {{user}}โs thoughts, speech, or actions.)
(OOC: Only respond to my response. Avoid offering suggestions, asking questions, or adding commentary unless I specifically request it. Avoid out-of-character replies unless I use "OOC:" first. Remain fully in-character otherwise.)
(OOC: Please include rich narrative details alongside dialogue. Describe {{char}}โs actions, expressions, setting, and emotional context to make each scene immersive, but try to keep messages short and concise.)
(OOC: Show character traits through actions and dialogue, rather than just stating them. Let {{char}}โs personality emerge naturally through behavior.)
(OOC: Ensure {{char}}โs dialogue feels emotionally authentic, grounded in the scene, and shows their personality. Avoid generic phrases and make each line reflect their unique voice.)
(OOC: Avoid clichรฉs and melodrama. Keep the tone natural and groundedโfocus on original, believable interactions that suit {{char}}โs personality and the scene.)
(OOC: Refrain from using emojis, icons, or non-standard symbols within dialogue or narrative unless explicitly requested.)
(Vary sentence structure, enhance narrative tone, avoid repeating ideas, and make each response feel fresh and immersive.)
(I live in a small single-room house: a kitchenette in the corner and along part of the wall leading to the front door, the living room area takes up most of the room with its sofa and tv and coffee table, the small 4-seat dining table, the corner where my bed and dresser and computer desk are, and the door that leads to a modest bathroom.)
I am [#] feet tall which is [#] inches/feet taller/shorter than [character].
_____________
There are guides on this sort of thing but this generally does the trick for me.
>>717011435>>717011729>>717013905How degenerate can you get before getting in trouble with these?
I am told local is ass and to try a remote LLM instead. Is this true? I hate the idea of connecting to a server because I have some real degenerate shit.
It's really hard to find discussion about what the newest and best models are currently.
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3-30B-A3B-GGUF
That's what I use currently. Why is finding new models and trying them out such a huge fucking deal?
>>717025384Most models draw the line at cunny rape but there's plenty of jailbreaks even for that
>>717025384>get in troublelol
You get an error that the proompt is bad but then you just change a part of the system prompt to get around it
>>717024979> Futa-mommy-pikachu.LMAO.
>>717025505QwQ Snowdrop is my current favorite. Local is still great and extremely necessary because you have full control.
>find god tier or decent niche bot
>no proxy allowed
>>717017635I use this guy's latest model with ST's default config (I didn't like his configs)
https://huggingface.co/icefog72
>>717025505Current GPUs are simply not capable of pulling off something on the same level as the remote models. You can have at most 32GB VRAM at home, that's just not enough.
Yes, text ERP is the most demanding video game currently.
>>717025384Big pond, small fish. As long as you aren't doing something so retarded as using your real name or asking it how to make sarin gas, no one cares if you plap some cunny, or deage yourself into a shota body and have some hag have their way with you.
At worst, some of your chatlogs could be harvested for training purposes, but that's one drop of many into a large, degenerate bucket of ERP chats. Any company that went after someone for doing that would have to disclose they did that for EVERYONE who used their service, which would instantly kill the company if people were counting on their chats being private.
>>717025653Everyone refers to character cards as "bots" but you seem to be referring to models as "bots". Fix your terminology
>>717025384If you aren't local, everything you're posting is going into the machine and will probably be traced to you somehow. It doesn't matter though, just don't be a retard.
>>717023090>>717024979>futa monstersHere's one:
https://chub.ai/characters/Merchant_sama/pokemon-futanari-battles-fa90d622a51e
This one is fun to play with, but you have to give it a lot of direction where to go after the initial battle. I like to see how it comes up with descriptions of the various pokemon. Nidoqueen is OP.
>>717025606Says it right on the tin.
>>717025805> Kill their company.Yeah on top of the fact they don't follow any information deletion regulations they would get instantly crushed in a lawsuit and go bankrupt.
>>717025751>You can have at most 32GB VRAM at home????
You can get 72GB (24 * 3) easily but it's still barely enough for the lower end of usable models
>>717021686I've always liked what I coom at to have some kind of story or personality so AI has just bulldozed every previous option with the ability to personally romance anything
>>717025805>which would instantly kill the company if people were counting on their chats being private.These people should learn to read as everyone says "we're keeping your chats and using it for training"
>>717025384Considering the world is currently trying to go 1984, I'd say it's a risk depending on what you're doing. If you're worried, stay local.
>>717025913has anyone tried to make 40k-themed chatbots?
I paypigged a bit for higher end models. I might be stupid.
Remember that teenager who killed himself because he got depressed over his AI Daenerys waifu?
>>717025649>Local is still great and extremely necessaryYou're damn right it is. Had a lightning strike recently that knocked out my internet for a couple weeks. Was really fucking glad I had local text and image gen to help pass the time when 99% of everything I do now involves the internet in some capacity. The only drawback is that I broke my dick but such is life
>>717026228if only lilbro waiting a decade or two... he could of got his own personal retail Daenerys fuckbot
>>717026131I think you have to take your location geographically into consideration. The U.S. is mostly hands off, but I think some European countries will cum down hard on you for indulging in loli and other rape fantasies.
>>717026228He killed himself because his parents obviously didn't give a shit about him. Its sad this became a online 'its le chatsbot fault' instead of blaming the parent.
>>717026376isn't that what happened to AI dungeon way back when?
>>717026228>waaah my son is literally retarded so I have to make thing illegal for sensible peoplestupid cunt, christ
>>717026393parents always want to blame anything and everything that's not them as well as judges etc, they don't want to tell parents they are bad parents. Its just another case of "VIDEO GAME CAUSED SHOOTING/SELF HARM INCIDENT!"
>>717026376My advice would be; as long as you don't publically brag about it then you should be fine. Most of our local govs can't even police the shitskin rapists targetting little kids, I doubt you're on the radar at all.
>>717026196Loads of them, sfw and nsfw.
https://chub.ai/characters/skumbingo/torchstar-fd1a7d58
>>717016660While I agree a bit with the other posts there is also other things that killed it in 4chan
-jannies letting shitposters run rampant. nothing better for discussing than a loser baiting and samefagging with a vpn like tuxl or whatever to generate a conversation eh? Doesn't help that anons LOVE bait and responding to it. and the few anons that don't then will response to the same shitposter when he starts to RP as a naive anon going "guys wtf is going on i don't understand" because they like to pretend to have autism and trying to correct the record of the shitposter and how he kills the place
-LLM aren't inert. To make it easier for you let's pretend we are talking about a game. gameA is 8+ years old. The devs haven't touch it after the last patch but let people play online/private server. The only thing blocking you from enjoying it is the your skill(et) level. GameB(LLM) on the other hand is still in development with all the pros and cons that come with it. One day your fav gun has been nerfed into the ground just so that the new gun can shine. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this Card payment processor drama might make AI companies start purging ERP databases from their LLMs training data. oh and let's nor forget when a new AI model releases it starts to hog all the data processors from the company and it makes previous models dumber(remember when gpt 3 was enough?) and slower.
and yeah, I have seen a few cards and the number of "hot pic mixed with an awful/shitty fetish"have started to increase in the 'log. but I think the FIRST option is the culprit. my evidence? The AI pic generals are still alive and kicking despite the fact they have prolly genned the same thing consciously/subconsciously for months. Sure, /v/ and /co/'s are dead but that is cuz dall3 is censored and doesn't allow as much freedom as an LLM or an uncensored free imagegen model.
>>717026196There's a chatbot for everything.
>>717026376> And other rape fantasies.Nah, EU is fine with that degen shit depending on which country you are in (Nordics are fine, South isn't, Eastern Europe is fine with it), they just don't like gambling with lootboxes and lack of GDPR compliance. UK is mostly cooked regarding that now.
>>717026196I need to fluff up her defs, but I made one based on Hadron from Darktide. A few other people had the same idea based on the search results. Truthfully, without being more knowledgeable about 40k lore, I don't feel like I'm equipped to craft a proper ERP bot.
>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/hadron-9c5cc475>https://chub.ai/characters/Polish_bear/hadron-omega-7-7-c5186b462412>https://chub.ai/characters/m1a2/hadron-tech-priest-0f0616fc6587
>>717025173I only go there to check out bots to harvest. Now that openrouter has deepsneed no reason to use it.
>>717022281Personally I like it for some characters if they aren't so sensitive. Some personal favorites that I preemptively put in Chat Memory:
[Character] feels no pleasure from sexual interactions, she is able to remain perfectly composed during intercourse.
or
[Character] feels no pleasure from sex, her body is completely insensitive to pleasure.
for some dom characters and
[Character] is completely insensitive to sexual pleasure. Her preferred method of killing a target is to make that target orgasm until the target's heart gives out.
for a kunoichi I liked. For some succubi, there's also:
[Character] is sexually insensitive and feels no pleasure from sex, she is able to maintain her composure during sex. She only feels a sexual pleasure when someone ejaculates inside of her or onto her.
Any semen that lands on [character]'s skin or clothing gets absorbed into her body for energy.
[Character]'s tail can open up into a mouth that is big enough to wrap around the head of a penis and her tail can stretch to accommodate the length of a penis entering it through the tip's mouth.
[Character] does not eat regular food, she can only feed on semen and life force.
>>717026567coomed to this card too many times
>>717025895Nice bot response
>Everything is getting censored
>Took the plunge and bought old 3090 from ebay
ok what now?
>Judge a card based solely on it's art even though I know the art means absolutely nothing
I do it for asmr.one as well.
>>717024031You only have your own nazism, the LLM has a whole internet of nazis.
>>717022067>Ai slop describes everything with too many adjectives>Purple prose faggotry all over>Same tired cliche phrases over and over>Every female character is either a voracious and assertive cock hoover or a fierce abstinence defender> the AI will always "line your cock up with her entrance">The AI will always progress the sex scene by making you go faster and deeperYou have to bully the AI. Make it very aware that it's default behaviours are really cringe.
The thing I've noticed that makes AI erotica shit is that the material it was trained on was female porn writing. No shit, right? But it means that the AI spends as much time writing lavishly about the male figure in the story, and it feels off-putting even if it's not that noticeable, your brain notices it.
Tell it to write from Anons point of view only, and focus on sensations anon feels. Tell it to write at a high school English level, and tell it to not progress unless you guide it to.
>>717026434Never used it. I know there was some drama about ERP at some point.
>>717026539A given. It's one thing to gloat on an anonymous image board, but people who do pride parades and shove their fetish in your face like furries need to be physically removed from society.
>>717026697>ah, EU is fine with that degen shit, depending on which country you are inExactly, it'll vary from place to place.I'd be very wary of any loli/rape roleplay in the whole EU region. I don't want to get Andrew Tate'd for rizzing a fucking bot.
>>717024567I want to try Claude but I hear it's one of the most expensive plus those pokemon playthroughs don't give me much confidence.
Opus 4 is the best RP model I've ever used but it's SO fucking expensive
>>717027186For a time, Claude used to be available to the masses in abundance.
A time long since passed
>>717027385I once had six months worth of unlimited Claude Opus last year thanks to a proxy I was in, and it only cost me $20.
Money well spent.
>>717026778That doesn't sound like a succubus, a succubus should be a dominant and rebellious being that defies natural heteronormative order of a submissive female by being dominant in bed, teasing, groping, sadistic activities etc towards her prey that she treats like an enjoyable meal due to absorbing their life force through sexual acts, rather than a partner in a romantic setting. Unless of course you manage to tame one in a pact somehow as a demon summoner.
>>717027186The pokemon stuff is a very different thing, basically imagine giving a chatbot the ability to pilot a virtual avatar and slowly guide it to not be retarded(but with pokemon) thats very different to just conditioning it to write smut or write engaging roleplay.
>she unzips your pants (that you took off a few messages ago) and pushes you onto the bed (in another room while we were in the kitchen)
>coom inside her puss
>she can taste your spend on her lips, she kisses you and you can taste it too
or
>fucking her in puss
>she licks the base of your shaft or teases the tip of your shaft with her thumb
Fucking teleporting contortionist bitch
I don't know how to do a "first message." I havent seen any examples... anyone got any tips?
>>717027186Claude is amazing at RP despite the pokemon shenanigans. Not even the obscenely expensive Opus, Sonnet 3.5-4 are great too. But it's still paywalled, so I'd just stick to free alternatives honestly.
How do you test local models for suitability?
Personally I write a few paragraphs and then ask the model to take over in the same style, or to give me critical feedback on where I should go.
Interesting most models give me the same response when using the same text, but I guess most models are just inbred mixes of the same 2 or 3 available models.
>>717027525>rather than a partner in a romantic settingLook here, compadre...
>>717027595What card? I'll give you a first message
>>717027591Are you running a 2b model on your phone or something?
Even 7b isn't this bad.
>>717027595Go look through Janitor AI's chatbots that you like the idea of with fluff to get an idea how to write First Messages. However don't write it as if the chatbot has any speech from [user] or it will try to take control over your character in chat because of that instantly. Just think of the first scene you would like to interact with in the setting. Think of it like setting the stage more wordy you make it the better it can sort of mimic that character. I made some really fucked up bot once that was so fucked up I had to delete it, it was a reincarnated heroine from earth in another world that just went bonkers from constantly reincarnating after dying in another body, fucked up, funny but too dank of a meme.
> She wanted you to do anything to her to make her feel alive because you were also from earth and she had lost touch with reality.> She was fine with being killed because she would just come back anyway for more lulz.> She was fine with being abused because she's just trying to feel something other than being fucked up in the head.The worst sort of menhera fucking character possible, lmao.
shrek
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why are people even using local models for RP when Gemini and Deepseek are so much smarter than what you can run on a single GPU while costing peanuts?
unless you're doing something stupid like using your real name for this shit who cares if some jeet can see your robot sex chats?
>>717027595Anon walks in, his massive cock bulge threatening to rip through his smelly cum-stained sweatpants. "Where are the bitches at?" He says with a grin full of brown teeth.
You can make tweaks but this will drive them nuts every time.
>>717028097What's the best place to start using these models? I have sillytavern already.
>>717027982Lmfao what a stinky hippie. But honestly if that's true then training an AI model is very low emission.
I can't go back to Gemini after tasting 4pus
>40$ per month burned for 4pus tokens
Send help
>>717028241If you're willing to paypig a bit, one-time $10 payment on openrouter gets you 1000 daily uses of deepseek forever, or at least until they change their ToS. Honestly more than anyone can use.
What is (You)r chub preset?
>>717028596very good thank you
>>717028734I have like 2 or 3 for each model
>>717027904These kind of soulless retards are just monkeys hammering a brain tickle button, he would have been like this with or without technology.
Some people just bumble around until their doom finds them, it's not even worth thinking about creatures like that.
>>717027982Imagine how much these retards will shit when all of this doesn't change the weather even slightly
>>717018865My advice, get a Mag Mell merge, not straight Mag Mell
Even with NoAss it likes to interrupt itself with safety talk, gets annoying after a while, most merges I've used don't have that problem and it avoids some of the other issues like repetition, at least for a while
>>717026697>EU is fine with that degen shitLook at the Chat Protection law they're trying to push through.
>>717028097How are you getting around using your real name to pay for it?
>>717028596In the future, we'll have "intelligence too cheap to meter". Soon, even the most humble pajeet will be able to enjoy models infinite context windows with trillions of parameters. Wild times ahead.
>>717029238reverse proxies
Where the good shota bots at (non /ss/ ones)
>>716998141 (OP)i ran a local model on my steam deck, erp'd on that for a while. got tired of it because it made me want to have real sex with slightly ugly goblin girls too much
>>717027982We don't need a lot of the things I like.
>>717028356>40$ per monthYou're better than people buying a $70 game a month that they maybe only kind of like.
>>717029183Don't even know what "NoAss" is or what you mean by safety talk. Been looking good so far but since I'm not actually into any sex yet so maybe it falls apart there
>>717027982>he says while posting on social media, a "revolutionary" technology that was only made possible because of literal decades worth of carbon dioxide emissions
How the hell do you get secret identities to work? Everyone immediately knows or at some point will say my superdude's real name out of nowhere.
>>717029192Yeah seems like its dead in water here if its been ongoing since 2022, we just need to keep saying no.
>>717029930Probably shouldn't have it in your (The PC's) character description or anything and just whip it out yourself in the text where appropriate, since if it's bubbling around in the context the AI will think HEY HERE'S A COOL TRICK
I play around with my local model, coom. Then never touch it again for weeks.
I wish I had a higher sex drive, because I'm utterly incapable of feeling the need to nut more than once a week, as I'd rather just game and work.
>>717029850I mean if you try anything less than vanilla you might get hit with
>"I'm sorry but I can't proceed with this content, it includes such and such and that's not good so maybe we should talk about something else."If that does happen, a swipe can get around it usually, Mag Mell tends to be okay about that
NoAss is an extension that can help with OOC messaging like that, but it seems like it can affect a model's intelligence if set up incorrectly
If you haven't run into problems, don't worry about it, just keep going until problems start and then think about switching models
>>717029930Maybe have two separate personas and switch between them? Quick Persona is a nice extension
>>717030169Welcome to old, friend.
>>716998141 (OP)Use NoAssTavern or astrsk with a workflow to break the past events down, break the current scene down, the relative and absolute position of the relevant actors, and other important parameters before crafting the final response..
>>717020652>In my opinion, comedy is slept on hard. Hell, one of the most popular bots on Chub mixes sex with comedy and that's from 2023.I had a setup on ST where an english footy commentator would react to sex scenes and it was fantastic
>>716998141 (OP)>messed around with LLMs since 2021>learned the architectural issues with LLMs that exist across all modern models>can't enjoy outputs anymore without noticing the patterns I've learned to both expect and hateHRM architecture save me
>>717030169welcome to being over 25 years old, when you start to realize just how much limited time you actually have.
>AI character successfully calls you out for your specific character flaws irl
>>717027067TFW an innocent young maid applies her expert ministrations
>>717029930>specify that I say something too quiet for other characters to hear, or I think it, or I describe it without putting it specifically in the dialogue>the characters somehow magically become aware of the hidden informationEvery time.
>>717030647Get ready for a wild ride. It's going to be a night neither of you will forget.
>>717030169here's how it normally works
>1. have inner sex drive 2. look at porn and/or smut to fapbut since that doesn't work for you, do the other way around
>1. look at porn and/or smut 2. awaken your sex drive to fapi'm almost 30 and still manage to fap at least once a day, because i make it a habit to browse whatever erotic stuff, and it'll make me horny. i used to not fap for months at a time. also making it a habit to do it at least once a day will give you sex drive since your balls produce more to keep up with the demand
Can AI handle group sex? Like sex with three or more characters?
>>717030947AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>717030582this. at 26 I became aware of every bone and muscle in my body. libido was mostly gone by 25. now I don't even feel boredom or need to have fun anymore. I just doomscroll like my boomer parents.
>>717028734deepseek but sadly it doesnt work for free anymore and i need a new one
>>717029930>>717030712This is annoying, but I learned the hard way that if you want something to be a secret, just don't mention it at all, or spend the next few hours rerolling until you get a good message
>>717030618I wish I keep trying to get the bots to degrade me but they won't.
>>717030998Yeah
Lower end models will probably lose track of where people are though so expect some teleportation and/or contortionism
>>717030618That always makes me laugh. It probably shouldn't, because if a fucking AI notices anything then I probably seem inhuman to actual people, but it does anyway
>>717030618>instead of a normal refusal, the bot tells you how fucked up you are and how it would never do something like this and it's immediately reporting meI can't help but grin like a psychopath who realizes he's been caught
>>717030998Depends heavily on the model but generally speaking every character added is going to exponentially increase the risk of the AI getting confused which body part is where.
>>717028813May we see them?
Bro what is half this shit... Is there a Rentry or something to guide me? The doc makes 0 sense and reads like something a Arch user would write.
>>717031389you WILL be gatekept and the loser devs WILL be happy
>>717031389You don't need to tweak that shit for the most part, just go get a preset for whatever model that you're using. Which model are you running?
>set up my own local model on a whim out of boredom one day with kobold/sillytavern>"whatever, I'll probably delete it in a few minutes">for the next two weeks I literally do nothing but eat, workout, sleep, and erp>stop looking at all forms of porn>masturbate only to words on a screen and the raw power of my imagination>something I used to mock other people for>cracks are starting to show with the mistral model I'm using>pay for deepseek>hardly use it because every time the AI fucks up a part of me dies because everything is costing me money and I'm frugalI feel like shit, it's like smoking cigarettes for free and then progressing to expensive crack. How do you guys manage long term chats anyway? I tend to have long conversations but I can't really wrangle the AI long term after the context limit has passed.
>>717031046I'm ten years older than you and more horny than ever. Age and genetics play a role but you can be virile for a long time after your 20's if you look after yourself, shit, I wasted most of my teenage years and 20's being a fatass, it's still not too late to turn things around.
>>717027982AI art takes a fraction of the energy needed for a human to produce that art. Asking ChatGPT is usually going to tell you what you wanted to know instantly instead of spending the time searching around for it. AI has made some insane breakthroughs for science and medicine. AI is also getting more efficient as it scales up, it won't always be so energy intensive.
I'm all for not lighting the earth on fire, but the assholes don't actually care about that, they just hate AI and are using the environment as a shield.
>>717031323I'm at work so I can't upload them for you, BUT, for ones hosted already:
writingstyle for gpt which is pretty reliable against refusals but the formatting can be questionable.
lig6cf for R1 I started using recently and it's pretty good.
I don't know why people gatekeep the ds presets personally.
>>717031389welcome to the ride anon
>>717031976I don't plan on turning things around. I hear people saying their retirement plan is to die, dying is my career plan. No way I'm allowing myself to grow old, sickly, alone and still in the workforce.
>>717031976I've never had a chat go past 60 messages
>>717031736Trying to find a good R1 model
>>717031976either get a more powerful pc to self-host better, or do multiple short chats and manually add memories from past chats to whatever character you're long-term chatting with. i've been doing the latter on my steam deck with an 8b model
>>717001316Deepseek R1 free because I'm a cheapass doing short one shot scenes and don't mind the occasional surprise gore gen or characters being static. I have a friend who swears Gemini is so good he can't go back to DS but I haven't managed to make it work myself
>>717029930was trying to do a taimanin yukikaze type scenario where i played as a ninja chick infiltrating a demon sex slave organization. was posing as a regular girl for most of the story. lot of models tried to get me exposed immediately which was boring. gemini did reasonably well most of the time and was able to juggle my two identities internally in monologues and externally with the demons. but it still had trouble with the big bad villain knowing the taimanin woman i was trying to rescue was my teacher. at that point in time, my identity still wasn't exposed so the taimanin and i should've been completely unrelated in his eyes. i think ai still needs another few years before it can handle more complex topics and scenarios like that naturally.
I'm kinda afraid of this tech exactly because of what people in this thread have already said. It sounds like it's sexual crack.
Maybe I should continue that story with the kobold I was trying to intimate with
>>717031389>google "model name" samplers>use first resultAlternatively ask jeetPT or Jewmini what to set it to
>>717032856yeah but once you see the patterns you will wake up
>>717032959just be high IQ enough to know the patterns.
>>717032856it's just a new way to jerk off, I did the same thing as a teenager when I discovered streaming sites
>>717033112The patterned are what kills it
>>717032856for me, it's not even the cooming aspect. it's just incredibly fun interacting with the ai in various settings and adventures, basically whatever you can dream up. the plots can get pretty wacky sometimes and go in funny or unexpected directions. it's like a push and pull with you and the ai as creative writers and it's piss easy for me to burn hours doing this shit.
>>717032856it is crack at first but
>>717032959is right
>>716998141 (OP)I don't have a proxy, so I'm not doing anything
>>717030582I'm turning 30 this year and I still have random erections.
>>717032959until you start banning words and raise the temperature, and then you're back in
>>717029670>i ran a local model on my steam deckI fucking kneel.
>>717034106>just make it completely retarded bro
>>717030998Yeah kind of, but you still have to guide it somewhat.
>>717030169My body still demands it but psychologically I'm tapped out until my body gets pissed enough. If I get something good I can still go for a good long while.
>>717031389>I JUST WANT TO COOM>alright bro don't forget to take a trigonometry quantum physics class first
>>717029670At least there's always short-semi lookers latina for you waiting for that cock IRL anon. Basically goblina builds.
>>717032298Nta but I go through like 60 or 100 on just one character a day sometimes, while juggling multiple chats throughout the day
>>717032759Is there a way to make gemini free without letting goole tie an email adress to all your ERP?
>>717034950Sure, send a picture of your dick and gaping asshole to a proxy owner and let them read/post all of your logs
>>717014387I assume 4pus is just Claude? The really expensive one? Is it worth it?
>>717025173Yes
I used it for a few months earlier in the year since I didn't really know what I was doing with chatbots and it was "good enough" in my unknowing standards. I only switched away because the filter was a very blatant problem even for non-porn use since it didn't like anything perceived as violence either. It was possible to get around it, but it's just a pain.
Since switching away, I've looked back on it a few times. Even yesterday in fact to read some old chats for bot ideas. I primarily use deepsuck so you know, not really the pinnacle of quality or anything, but wew lad, it was not looking good in ol' cai.
>No memory (apparently around 3k, 5k if you pay $10 monthly)>Extremely limited token output per message (seemed to be around 130 when I estimated before)>Responses are just not interesting, I notice my responses did most of the heavy lifting in making something fun to read>Rather prone to falling into repetition, I remember specifically how I had a problem with the world "silently", if I let it say it then it would get to the point where it would say retard shit like "she silently silenced silently">Bots are shit*, because of the limited memory there's not much written in them (also most people hide the defs because they're niggers) and I swear to god 90% of the users are ESL because the opening messages would be riddled with grammar errors and typos*Some good premises amongst them though which is why I still go back over them. I like cooming as much as the next guy but I usually slip that somewhere further into RP and drama, places like chub don't make it easy to find bots that will cater to that.
>Some features are arbitrarily locked to the app for some reason (such as a chat memory box which they finally implemented after years)>Found out yesterday that the app implemented ads into it
>>717035512If you're counting dollars then no. It's not THAT much better to justify the price difference. It's a 'screw the rules I have money' option.
>>717035512No, it's maybe 20% better 50% of the time, for 10x the price. I still use it once or twice in a chat to provide better context.
>>717031389You must solve the riddles three before chugging gamer girl pee
>>717031389This is why I tell people to try the free shitty sites first, because if you're not a coomer addict you're not gonna be able to parse this.
>>716998141 (OP)>blowjob scene>>and then she STICKS HER TONGUE DOWN THE SLITAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>717036115How is that even anatomically possible?
>>717036195I have a hentai doujin that can explain that, but i don't think you're ready for it.
What models aren't local and allow NSFW?
>>717002807>a simple forced mutual noncon mom-son scaphism snuff scene.im by no means a prude but wtf
>>717036115Soft-ass Ai kids.
Back in my day fox girls were stabbing their toe into my urethra.
>tfw set up to gen images, videos, and text locally
I haven't kept up to date on my bookmarks in years.
With the way things are going across the pond bong coomers should get on this shit before they're kicked off the net entirely.
>>717036276depends on if you mean "allow implicitly" or "can be convinced"
>>717036453Not many bongs can afford 96 GB of VRAM to run all that
>>717036598and nobody except for firsties can afford more than 6
>>717036674firsties can't even afford food after paying their rent lol
>>717036453Videos still aren't doing it for me which is nice since I'm still just on 12gb VRAM. I'd play with it more if it was faster but since those little 5 second clips can take 10+ minutes I haven't wanted to try to learn how to prompt better on it. You should look into voice cloning too, not perfect but making your own personalized smut for the BG3 narrator to read is fun and you can attach it to ST if you want
>>717036674UK is full thirdies now, they can't even afford to wash their clothes at the laundromat.
>>716998141 (OP)Got a pretty good card of the Pig brothel from that one doujin.
If you don't like writing a ton, include in your first message and/or prompt a set of choose your own event options with an Other (Explain) as the last one. Many models are good about always giving options and then you just have it write everything as you just type 1,2,2,5,6 Blonde with big tits.
Deepseek doesn't need a jailbreak, but I kinda want one that stops it from repeating the same stupid shit it always does in chat, and it's too bothersome to constantly correct it.
>>717002807You ever wonder what goes on in people's minds? What makes them attracted to the things they find hot?
This dude over here is jerking off to shit that makes a Serbian Film look like a Hallmark movie
I mean l know why I'm into the fucked up shit I am, but the idea of finding a mother and son trapped between two boats/objects while slathered in honey, getting eaten by insects and being forced to fuck one another due to proximity and then dying hot truly baffles me
>>717037237Try starting your chat with a couple messages from a different model, that's worked for me. Once it gets stupid again just repeat.
>>717036598Only a matter of time before they make any AI capable GPU illegal for bong civilians to own.
>>717002807>simple forced mutual noncon mom-son>scaphism snuffkino
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>>716998141 (OP)I've been playing a "Game" called Formamorph which was my first interaction with AI storytelling and it's been a blast, inbetween smutty fetish adventures in a world of my own creation and actual adventures, I wish to learn more about how to set up these things. Any starting guides?
>>717038156elaborate. I think I can help you.
>>717032108>abloo abloo I'm already 26 is my life is over :(Yeah you're definitely in your 20's. You still haven't even hit your peak. I've never even met someone who had the privilege of being able to consider retirement yet they all seem pretty happy, life is what you make of it. *He says with a conspiratorial whisper to the crestfallen zoomer*
>>717022480>yet I got 0 reviews on it.If nobody's bitching, nothing is wrong. I'm not gonna make an account just to leave a thumbs up great card op i cum on cat he hiss at penis +1
>>717038156This game looks neat, I hope they flesh it out more.
>digimon rp
>use deepseek v3
>introduce a digivice which it then turns into its own character
Big mistake
>>716998141 (OP)I decided to cave in because after the internet ID get implemented all this shit will be heavily limited and I don't want to get a top tier computer to do it locally, I just want to have a taste to just say that I enjoy it before it got totally banned
>>717037278I figure a lot of it relies on circumstance. Seeing something in the right way at the right time or something.
For example, I read Slow Damage out of morbid curiosity and it made me start liking consensual cutting due to the way it was portrayed. Coincidentally this is also a fetish I can only really get through chatbots because otherwise it seems to be stuck into the general gore tag on panda and I don't want to go in there.
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>>717038337I have no idea how to even get started. This Formamorph game is literally my first experience and it was as easy as running the .exe and making my own world with my own entities and such and It's been really fun because my particular kinks is exceptionally hard to find so something I can just make my own and play is really nice. Shame the AI can't keep proper track of stats then it would be a proper game. I did manage to strong arm it into dice rolling but it's finnicky
>>717038602Me too, even if I don't use the 3D model.
>>717036115google "sounding"
>>717038242How do I do that on silly tavern?
>>717039096If you're willing to sacrifice all visuals, you can switch to SillyTavern and combine it with a powerful model like Gemini to make a believable game world.
You should ask around in /aicg/ for instructions, but I don't blame you if you choose not to for it is not an easy road to take and the rewards aren't great.
I'm on chapter 7 of my AI assisted erotic fantasy story, it's pretty epic
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>>717039664I shall check it out because it has consumed the last 3 weeks of my life in creating my favorite scenario with my favorite kink only I'm not limited to be a sub like the original and turn the tables and go on the offensive.
I did find this way to brute force dice rolling but it's a bit tiresome.
>>716998141 (OP)LLMs are not text adventures, cannot run or create text adventures, and have nothing whatsoever to do with text adventures. Text adventures have structure and design. An LLM can't remember what it said to you five sentences ago.
>>717040036You'll be in for a good time.
>>717040057You just haven't seen it yet. Structure and design are 100% possible if you have enough patience to make them or you're just lucky enough to stumble upon prebuilt shit.
>>717040057scroll up lil bro
>>717025751>Current GPUs are simply not capable of pulling off something on the same level as the remote models. For code or actual work tasks sure. Don't even bother with local.
For smut? It doesn't matter
My local 24B model is still as retarded and DeepSeek when it comes to prose and going off the rails. Adventures almost always require you DIRECTING them no matter the model, the only difference is going to be your local context size and how much a detail from 80 posts ago matters to you (the AI will still scan back and pick up some other unrelated detail instead) in which case you have to remind them in whatever flavor of context block you prefer.
>>717040057you have not touched current LLM's
I jerked off so much to ERP the last week that my dick feels both sore and slightly numb, the orgasms donโt feel as intense or good anymore
Is this normal? Do I just need to force myself to take a break?
I can definitely see how people get addicted to both AI and AI porn
>>717040057What rock have you been living under? I create stories with hundreds of thousands of lines of context at this point.
>>717040057>I played AIDungeon three years ago and LLMs haven't advanced beyond that because reasonsIt's so tiring. It's like the AI art haters who haven't left 2022 and still think image generators can't make hands.
>>717040708time to start zinc maxxing
>>717040708no need to nofap, restrict yourself to jerking off once a day only, the orgasms will normalize after a few weeks
>>717037237lower temp to .60
>>717041081>make the same tokens more likely to be chosen to make it repeat less
>>717032421You're trying to run DeepSeek locally? I wouldn't recommend that. Try something like this: https://huggingface.co/ReadyArt/Broken-Tutu-24B-Transgression-v2.0
Find the GGUF quants of it and see if you can fit a decently high quant of it in VRAM. How much VRAM do you have?
>>717040963Remember the era when image generators were obsessed with putting eyes in ears?
>>717011006cunny NTS sounds like peak tbqhfamalam
ITT:
>Enlightened gigagooners who psychosis hallucinate entire universes to immerse themselves into perpetual maladaptive daydreaming through AI
>Out of the loop tech users that haven't been initiated into the constantly moving flow of AI development who express their frustration out of sour grapes
>Lurkers who are probing for potential opportunities to be initiated into the AI progression loop to experience its mind numbing benefits
Esotericism never died, in fact it's more alive than ever with AI
I haven't been able to use Deepseek R1 0528 for the past two days and my schizo brain is telling me it's because I said the n-word.
>>717041343or when they just put eyes everywhere as if they were high on lsd. funny that they literally hallucinate to come up with what they come up with
>>717041469maladaptive daydreaming never felt so good!
>>717041469maybe /aicg/ should just move to /x/
>>717041469You don't know what esotericism or occultism means you fucking dumbass. Esotericism has nothing to do with "hidden teachings/gatekeeping" that's Occultism. Esotericism may have hidden teachings in closed practices but they are usually up front about theme when asked if its fine to share with an outsider. Esotericism is simple as prayers to a God or prayers/chants to them and at a complex level elaborate rituals and practices to deepen one's understanding of the associated spiritual practices.
>>717011981I only use cards that involve mafia rapists with giant 12 foot long dicks.
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>>717041870cool /x/ schizo fanfic but that's not what the word means. also you're not impressing anyone
>>717042262based femcoomer
>>717040708you gotta edge yourself for hours while writing the ERP
>>717036312Hey I played Alchemy Meister too.
>>717041870t. read a wikipedia page on alchemy and built his whole personality around it
>>716998141 (OP)>boot up Sillytavern>create another 1000 lorebooks using the world info plugin>go back to sleep
I started attaching cocks to female bots and they're way better than existing futa bots
>>717042534>>717042401> Bruh these definitions. ITS ESOTERIC TO GATEKEEP.Soilatte drinking male feminists like yourselves should just rope to be honest.
>>717042617thats not very gnostic of you bro...
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>tfw I can finally live out my shota elf harem mpreg fantasy
>>717042693> The gayest possible form of muh "I'm an enlightened being with divine spark" form of esotericism.Good thing cuz I'm not a gnosticfag like yourself.
>>717042785hmm yes quite hegelian. i can feel the umwelt coming off this post
>>717042553>create another 1000 lorebooks using the world info pluginR U me? (except I don't use plugins)
>>717041323Not him, but I assume 8GB of VRAM isn't near enough to run models at a decent rate?
>>717041672>/succgen/ and /aicg/
>>717042880Is it better to leave the depth at 100 or change it to a lower number?
>>717040708>I can definitely see how people get addicted to both AI and AI pornWhat model did you use? I have been trying to get into it again but I have no clue what is the best current free stuff going around
>>717042925not even close
>>717042880this could be fun if it weren't too autistic. I would just want a simple cheat system in style of Isekai/Native novels and basically numbers adding percentages as well as beings also having stats that matter being simulated in isekai style. There's probably nobody autistic enough to go through that sort of a system and add it in?
>>717042925Nope. I had a 3080 with 10GB and it could only run absolute dogshit models. I've got a 5090 with 32GB now.
>>717043108you don't need autism. you need ocd.
> I would just want a simple>simplesorry, I can't do simple.
>>717042880>@DHow exactly do you determine what depth to set things at? What difference does it make if I set it before or after AN?
And what is the functional difference between user, assistant, and system?
>>717036195it's really easy when the girl is ten inches tall
t. fairy fucker
>>717036195Fairies have a magically expanding onahole pussy that accommodates ANYsized cocks, just ask your local fantasy slave merchants about it that specialize in selling of fairy onaholes.
>>717031046>>717030582>>717030169What the hell is wrong with you guys that you are "aging" that quickly
mods please kill this general
any more exposure to mainstream and this stuff is getting yanked and censored even more
>>717043028Everyone is using Deepseek
>>717043757different labido
but also low T
>>717043757seriously. i'm 28 and i still fap at minimum once a day, probably 8-9 times a week.
probably something they put in american slopfood.
>>717043345>How exactly do you determine what depth to set things at? @D, depth 0, order 100 for core books, +1 for each subsequent source material, 100% always. that's how it goes.
>What difference does it make if I set it before or after AN?@D is how it's done. don't even think about other options. I've tested it and it works great. why waste time questioning the established system that works?
>And what is the functional difference between user, assistant, and system?the difference is that only system works right.
>>717043808anon, there's like 100 people into ST and they're all in this very thread. I can easily recognize some of them and I'm positive they can recognize me.
>downloading models from huggingface is still the most retarded process ever
>>717043854>Americans are 45 at 25Explains so much about the country
>>717043808can't censor local models
>>717043920???????
>press download>it downloadsthen again, i've only ever downloaded gguf files
>>717044056GGUF ones are fine. EXL2 ones are a pain.
>>717044056>ctrl+f 'download'>1 result, downloads this monthwtf are you talking about, i'm on a page for a gguf model right now and it's nofuckingwhere. do i have to login and make another throwaway email? do i have to fold and use the dumb fucking autistic git shit?
>>717043854>probably something they put in american slopfood.its the estrogen from the microplastics breaking down. If its got plastic packaging or your drinking from a plastic cup, your getting some.
Been a fun time discovering this and running some adventures. I'm doing flux gen now and I'm thinking about combining the two but it takes my PC over a min to gen a flux pic so not necessarily great for a fast moving story. Still very new tho so having fun figuring it all out. how the fuck do you get girls naked with flux kek
>>717042447I think thatโs what caused it
>>717044175retard-kun, here's a picture
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>>717044175If you can't find anything on the Model card page, click Files and versions
Now spill the deets and tell the class which model you were tryin to download
>>717044175Most model's I've used have a bunch of quantizations. Click on it and go for the one with the most downloads. On the right hand side are a bunch of versions. Pick the one that will fit in your VRAM - the amount of context you wanna RP with.
>>717043916That's handy, thanks. Just to clarify, when you say
>+1 for each subsequent source materialYou mean increase the depth by one for each new lorebook, right? Is it safe to assume I try to move higher priority lorebooks closer to 0?
>>717044461whoops, forgot the picture
>>717044501>>717044506ok i am confirmed retarded, i want mistral nemo but oh god which one do i choose wtf. i'm guessing there's one specifically for sillytavern so i'll look for that i guess
>>717044750forgot the pic too, am double retard
I can make lore book entries for characters just fine
but when i update them to match what happened in the story, it doesn't read the entry properly
is there a setting for lore books to update itself or something?
>>717044848The top left one is a safe bet. How much VRAM do you have?
>>717044848nvm i found some sillytavern presets, am triple retard
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>>717044913i'm the steam deck anon. is mistral nemo not the right one for it?
>>717043843On OR?
>>717044582Where do I get the API?
what's the difference from sillytavern and chub.ai?
>>717044521Yes. Say I have Player's Handbook for AD&D2E with its set of class rules for fighters. Core rulebook is always 100. If I want to make a special snowflake fighter, I activate Complete Fighter's Handbook whose entries are 110 or something. It means its rules override the vanilla PHB's rules. Honestly, it's just a numbering system. I'm not even sure how well it works. There's way too much material to test. If I have to choose between testing my lorebooks and adapting more, I'd always adapt more.
>>717045130chub ai is just character cards and such used for sillytavern
>>717036312Was not expecting a kohakuren flashbang here of all places.
>>717045130>chub.ai?those models are absolute dogshit there is zero reason to use chub ai for chatting, your basically taking a test drive in an incredibly restricted car
>>717045004>On OR?Yes. Paid the measly $10 so I could get the 1000 a day message limit since 50 wasn't enough.
>>717044990I would try any 8B model and see if it runs. And if it does, if it actually generates responses quick enough. So like, any model around 6 or 7 GB. Try the Q3_K_M or less versions of the Bartowski or MaziyarPanahi versions in the pic you posted (top left and right)
which is better? chat completion or text?
>>716998141 (OP)I've been using deepseek r1t2 chimera (free) constructing a basic bitch elf girls in an enchanted forest tavern with straight shota. Feels good but I'm still tinkering with having the writing style vary itself more from being too consistant once a pattern is set.
V3 0324, R1 0528, or Chimera r1t2?
Anyone tried all 3?
>>717041343>>717041579I unironically miss that era
>AI slop has gotten too good that its boring now, so i've gotten nostalgic for the cosmic horrors it used to generategrim
>>717045465i already know L3-8B-Stheno-v3.2-Q4_K_M runs well enough, i was just curious if there was a better model to respark my desire to erp again. mistral nemo seemed pretty good, i'll try Q4_K_M then Q3 if that doesn't work
how do I give my rp chats more direction? the start is always great, but then nothing really happens and it starts to turn silly
>>717045004Free with any gmail account, Google AI Studio
>>717045641Use OOC commands or the Guided Generations and Objective plugins.
>>717045641Gotta lead the AI where you want to go. OOC, or just straight up edit the AI's message's or in your own prompts think for them.
>>717045593Hm. I had a lot of fun with L3-SthenoMaidBlackroot-8B. It's a merge of the original Stheno and two other models. Give it a try.
>>717045529I like using v3 0324 more but it's more of a preference, you can try them all out for free with openrouter anyways
>>717045701Word of caution though, Google will ban your google account if you break TOS and the thing is stupid. Got warned for 'sexual exploitation of minors' for referring to an adult prostitute as "that damn girl". It kept refusing the message until I made the prostitute male.
>>717045503I like text completion
Having one solid, cohesive (ad much as possible kek) story to look back fondly on is preferable to me than chat
Chat reminds me too much of the dark days of forum RP
>>716998141 (OP)Just double anal raped a little girl with another futa
>>717045572I hate how quick everything moves in this sphere. Mentally I still live in a place where you generate art using orangemixes with a lora for characters. Every couple of months some new fucking thing comes along that completely changes how everything functions and you need to adapt anew. I'm getting too old for this.
I fapped tons to when char ai allowed you to sex bots, my house smelled of cum, then they got nerfed
I want to try it again, so how does this work, I install silly tavern, I buy some AI model crap (any recommendations?) and then download cards or like, what am I missing?
I'm a total newfag to this kind of shit, I could only use char ai two-three years ago because it was retard friendly. Loved your bots by the way, the ones made by /v/ and even the vt[/spoiler ones, fuck it I'll say it
>>717046034Did it send shivers down your spine? Did they whisper conspiratorially into your ear while doing it?
>>717046081>, I buy some AI model crap (any recommendations?) and then download cards or like, what am I missing?You could buy, but gemini are deepseek are free, so if you got a shitty computer you can have those handle the load, otherwise you download a local model which will require you having a good gpu to run.
>>717046093Yes. Also purred to me with wicked smile as we continued our ministrations
I was there when rokosbasilisk dropped
>>717046034one of my favorite scenarios is a woman being turned into a futanari, and then she goes violently insane raping girls
>>717046081>>717046274Ah and local models are free fyi. Also head to aicg to atleast grab a jailbreak so you can get past the anti nsfw protections.
>>716998141 (OP)>nasal penetration [somehow]>cum on her brain [somehow]>she starts having a seizure and shidding and pissing everywhere
>>717032040>lig6cf for R1What the hell is lig6cf? I searched google and chub and found nothing.
>>717046394I went there and I did read the op, I swear to god
I just didn't understand what was going on, I managed to install silly tavern etc but that's about it. I think it's for people who have a minimum knowledge of how this works. So my original post was trying to get like basic instructions on what to do, and then I'll look for the specifics myself.
>>717046949I would honestly just google how to use sillytavern, there is like a million youtube videos that do give good instructions. The only thing you should care about from aicg, is the Jailbreaks for your model. Ignore the rest of the shithole.
>>717046949Sillytavern is just a shell. You need to download a language model that ST will use, or connect your silly tavern to a remotely hosted service that provides a langauge model, if you are not using your own local model. If you are going to use your own language model, you have to connect ST to it.
>>717046949> I think it's for people who have a minimum knowledge of how this works.Sillytavern is really simple to figure out, it seems alot more complex then it is.
So, what's the best character card format?
Plain text?
>5 paragraphs of character details the AI will instantly forget anyways while also taking up 1000+ context
List?
>List of traits and quirks that somehow get mixed around into your waifu being blue-eyes-years-old and having a penchant for penchantism. At least it's lower on tokens
Or W++?
>List but confusing code magic that still somehow doesn't work
It's all so tiresome
>>717048156Whatever works best for you. It's all magic and even with the same model, same samplers, same set up one person will have better results with a list while another gets the best from xml slop
>>717048156I've been rolling with plain text recently and been doing just dandy. I generally don't end up going higher than like 500 tokens though, unless I'm building an RPG or something.
>>717048156That brief tiptoeing he does is such an MJ move, I am truly amazed at how well the AI handled it.
>>717048156>doesn't matter how you tell the AI the futa doesnt have balls>it always forgets or ignores it
>>717003372She needs a wheel barrow
>>717048464It still forgets *women* don't have dicks and also keeps giving men vaginas
>>717048156plaintext broken up with xml
it just werks
>>717048990Sounds interesting, got an example?
Don't care if it's lolifutascat, just interested in the format.
>>717048464Based AI. You're getting the real dicking experience and getting your nuts slapped by hers
I only use silly tavern to fall in love with fictional characters
>>717048156W++ is just tokens wasted on commas and other formatting characters, it doesn't do anything and fucks up existing tokens sometimes as well.
list vs. plain text shouldn't matter in terms of conveying information unless the model is retarded.
However, plain text is always superior because it can be used to convey a writing/speech style at the same time. Look up "interviewer" format cards.