Thread 717034781

Now that the cum has crusted, DID YOU RIKE IT?

I did
but
where's the expansion?

>>717034781 (OP)
It was fine, still a disappointment and I won't pretend it doesn't hurt that we're never going to get a fully realised Dragon's Dogma game ever.

No.

>>717034781 (OP)
Yeah but it was clearly like a year from being finished at least and we wont get any expansion. Greedy Crapcom looking for the fast money.
Did it again with MH Wilds, at least they are getting way more pushback from that on that game and their insistence on rushing that game out actually hurt their stock because of how broken it is so that's nice since the reason they rush these games out is to boost shareholder reports.

It was okay but lacked memorable NPC's and places. You could say it was soulless.

sure, a dlc would've been nice though

Dragon's Dogma fans when Capcom doesn't give DD2 a $100 billion budget and 10 years of development time

>>717034781 (OP)
Yep, I liked it quite a lot. It just needs a expansion like Dark Arisen.

>>717034781 (OP)
if you want some serious answers then try making a legit thread and put some respect on Itsuno san’s masterpiece you nigger.

>>717035220
If they were fine with delaying Pragmata for over 3 years then why couldn't they have given Dragon's Dogma 2 a delay as well?

I dont even necessarily need a full expansion (though it would be nice)
I just need more fucking enemy variety and a hard mode - after two dozen fights against the same few big enemies shit gets stale fast

To imagine some anons died while waiting for this schlop.
Maybe they were the lucky ones to not having to experience it.

>>717035868
Pragmata was obviously initially a tech demo, and when interest happened they decided to put a D Team on creating it. Even the latest gameplay looks boring as shit.

>>717036023
what did you think of DD2?

>>717034781 (OP)
Wait, there is a catwoman in Dragon Dogma? What is her role?

>>717034781 (OP)
I played DD for the first time in 2020 and it quickly became one of my all time favorites, and I played through it about 8 times in 3 years. I played DD2 once and will never play it again. It was the most disappointing game I've played next to KH3.

>>717036138
You can play as a Beastren race at character creation - there's an entire race of catwomen

>>717036118
200 hours+ in it, but it still wasn't the sequel that was promised.

>>717036138
Queen of The cat people race.
Arisen can also be cat

They fucking won, man.

No loli pawns
No buy
Simple as

>>717034781 (OP)
DD2 would be a perfectly fine game if it wasn't a followup to DD1/DA.

yes, it's way too easy, though. basically have to go solo or with just your main pawn if you want to be challenged

>>717036392
damn that looks like a blast

>>717036363
I think that's how the entire fanbase feels. It's a great game standalone, but as a sequel it's shit and doesn't improve on much.

>>717036515
i honestly like that you just get beat to death if a bunch of monsters corner you and you have nobody to cover you

I will never pre-order or buy an enhanced edition of a game ever again. Having loved DDDA, I thought this would simply build upon that.

It's a refresh of the first game's mechanics, but completely falls short on the story and world. Skill slot reductions, gear simplification, and so many other things fee like they changed for the sake of change. I'll try out the DLC when/if it comes out and goes on a discount, but this series is effectively dead to me.

I did enjoy the time I spent on my first character though. Being an Elven Ranger was all I wanted out of the first game, though I wish their content wasn't so scarce. The languages introduced in the game is a brilliant concept that other RPGs should really embrace.

I unironically had a blast
so did my PSU

BLAST
UP MY ARSCHE

>>717035868
Pragmata was a brand new IP that didn't even show any gameplay until a few months ago. DD2 was a highly anticipated sequel that Capcom was relying on to hard carry a financial quarter.

Honestly it wasnt that bad, got me 50 hours of gameplay, brute-forced the horrible optimization of the game - I do hate how they actually put the real good parts in the very end and then forced you to speed up due to story

>>717034781 (OP)
Love this game

>>717034781 (OP)
>no moon level
It totally disappointed me.

>>717036812
>Pragmata was a brand new IP
Pragmata is basically Deep Down, but Capcom decided to keep it alive.

>>717036238
>>717036304
Thanks. I love catgirls but is the game any good? Should I buy it?

Nu-/v/ is way too dramatic. Like look at this fag>>717036680, literally enjoyed the game but can't just say that, has to preface it with how he's never preordering anything ever again and how the game is nearly a complete failure. Part of it is hate shilling for this game was too effective so the people that do enjoy it can't just genuinely enjoy it

>>717036994
yes, its a blast! get it now.

>>717036975
Not sure how you can say Pragmata is basically Deep Down when Deep Down looked like Dragon's Dogma gameplaywise

It was fun, but you can only play a game once. Even if it was just as DD1 people would be left feeling hollow, because they're seeking for the first time they already had. They're masterworks all, but only once...

>>717034781 (OP)
It is as mediocre as the first game.

>>717037309
get the fuck outta here you tasteless faggot heres your (you) you lonely piece of shit, now kill yourself.

How's the performance now?

>>717037484
Works on my machine. hope that helps.

>>717034781 (OP)
I didn't like the first one. Waste of his career making this instead of DMC6

>>717034781 (OP)
is there seriously nothing going on at the studio? i'd be pissed but accepting if they were laid off or something, but the fact we don't even know if the studio is still operating and it's been over a year makes me even more mad.

>>717037632
If Itsuno cared about what faggots like you had to say he would be making gatcha games running on unreal engine to please you normies.

>>717034781 (OP)
I have never been more disappointed in my entire video game-playing life.

>>717034781 (OP)
Glad to see the shitcord is still SEETHING about Dragon's Dogma

>>717034781 (OP)
it was fun but i liked the mmo more, which ironically enough also didn't get enough time to be properly developed and finished. It's like the entire series is cursed

>>717037832
well…I had a blast.

>>717037417
You get maybe one thread a month about this piece of shit game lol it's your taste that's fucked.

>>717037818
Not what I asked for and after Dragon's Dogma flopped he'll be lucky to be allowed to assist on shitty gatcha games.

>>717038172
its a very niche game series, you wouldn’t get it.
and thats a good thing, stay out faggot.

>>717038232
>flopped
you not liking it isn’t synonymous with if being a flop nigger kun.
DD2 was a financial success for Capcom and no amount of seething on your part will change the fact.

No, fuck you

>>717038405
Flopped so bad they fired Itsuno. GReat success buddy. Maybe you'll get another sequel in 15 years

>>717037979
current videogame and movie industry would rather produce a gazillion pieces of depressing or morally grey garbage like dark souls or all the pieces where the villains are aCtUaLlY tHe GoOd GuY rather than a piece where the good simply slays the dragon

BECAUSE IT'S ALL PRODUCED BY THE DRAGONS

>>717037484
Towns are better but still pretty bad
Outdoors is fine
>>717038457
Itsuno left

>>717038457
>fired
here we go again. dd2 haters being disingenuous faggots claiming shit with no sources.

>>717038557
Left to go panhandling on the streets of Tokyo after ending his career. Good luck out there, bum.

>>717038665
more than a brown turd like you will ever amount to lmao.

Is this worth it yet? greenman has a sale and it's bretty cheap

shit game, shit franchise.

>>717037979
online was so kino
it's such a shame that the story had to get rushed
>story was meant to have 5 chapters
>gets ended at 3 chapters, with the entire third chapter needing to rush through and abandon various plot threads
>loose implications of there being seneschals if you really squint and think about DD1 lore, but they never appear or get directly referenced

>>717038774
It was worth it on release, it's just that the fans hate it as a sequel.

>>717038774
no

>>717037979
Still never understood why they didn't bring DDO to the West. It would have been an amazing game and the audience would have triple or quadrupled.

>>717037979
I tried DDO because of all the people shilling it here and it was just a fucking MMO, not a DD game that happened to be an MMO.

>>717039220
infrastructure costs probably, plus probably thinking (correctly imo) that the western audience at the time wouldn't go for the f2p asian mmo model

>>717039335
>not a DD game that happened to be an MMO.
it was a DD game that happened to be an MMO though
the only major gameplay differences it had were the presence of 8-man content and vocations having an additional role (e.g. healers could reveal weak points, elemental damage enchanters also functioned as tanks)

>>717039705
>it was a DD game that happened to be an MMO though
Absolutely fucking not. I actually played DDO, which is why I know people selling it as such are full of shit.

>>717039781
>nuh uh
explain your reasoning then bro
the only other thing >>717039705 left out was gear treadmilling, but getting uppity over an rpg having you move on to better gear is a strange hill to die on
the game had personal pawns and everything

>>717039781
What did you not like about it then?
A bunch of anons were shilling it for a reason anon. Hell, there was even a new wave of anons getting into it when DD2 came out because they disliked the new game.

Unironically had a blast.

I like the kick mechanics and stuff they added to Archer.

>>717039886
First off, the UI and controls are like an MMO. No matter how much you try to downplay that (because I know you will) that's terrible. MMOs are for people with shit taste in games, and that kind of UI, especially damage numbers poping up in real time combat, is a huge put-off for anyone who doesn't like shit games. Classes with their roles, movesets and leveling are all structured like MMO classes, not DD classes. There are a ton of little details that make it feel less immersive than DD, like how in DD you could knock parts off enemies then pick them up whereas in DDO they just drop a nice neat static lootbag because it needs to handle objects in the world like that. DD starts in a nice little fishing village that feels alive while DDO has an intro then throws you into something that's clearly 100% an MMO hub, completely with non-characters standing in one place with their names floating above their heads ready to dump exposition on you and then give you MMO style quests. Then you go outside and try to explore except you're met with "Actually this area is like 20 levels higher than you are now. Come back later" and when you get to the actual quest you're supposed to do, you get a nice "Is everyone ready? Okay" message. DD felt like an adventure. DDO feels like an MMO in every aspect from class balance and combat to quests. If all it takes for you to call something a DD game is pawns existing, the visuals and combat somewhat resembling DD, then you never really liked DD to begin with.

>>717039964
>A bunch of anons were shilling it for a reason anon.
A few idiots here. I went to the general (where people actually play it a lot) to ask questions about it and everyone there was much more transparent about it being an MMO you played if you were absolutely desperate for more DD and not a proper DD followup.

>>717041251
>damge numbers are bad
stopped reading there
cope and seethe if you want anon, I'm going to keep having fun in the private server

>>717041251
>classes are mmo classes, not DD classes
Anon, how long did you actually play the game?
You sound like you picked Priest or something and then got bad that you couldn't unga bunga through the game. Several classes are practically their DD1 counterparts but with extra seasoning, the most blatant of which was Warrior getting buffed.
>Then you go outside and try to explore except you're met with "Actually this area is like 20 levels higher than you are now. Come back later"
The only spots that are like this in the entire game are the season 2/3 areas, which you can't even access until you've played the game enough.
Either you played on the private server ages ago when it was still mostly a sandbox without area ranks properly working because the devs decided to let every spawn be active rather than cuck people after they've gotten past the literal first levels of the game, or you're just being a disingenuous faggot for (You)'s.

>>717042585
>damage numbers are fine
Are you some kind of retarded third world shit eater?
>cope and seethe
Yup. Explains why you like MMO trash.

>>717043095
>You sound like you picked Priest or something and then got bad that you couldn't unga bunga through the game
Nice projection, but no.
>The only spots that are like this in the entire game are the season 2/3 areas, which you can't even access until you've played the game enough.
This is a lie. You can literally see the levels for ares that are too high for you right from the start.
>Either you played on the private server ages ago
I played on the private server this year.
>or you're just being a disingenuous faggot for (You)'s.
Ah, you're a redditor. That explains the retardation and the defense of bad MMO mechanics when people want something like DD again. It also explains why you'd rather argue about arguing than address specifics I said about UI, loot drops, and how the game starts you in a lifeless MMO hub instead of somewhere like Cassardis. DDO is for people who like MMOs, not people who like DD.

>>717043095
>or you're just being a disingenuous faggot for (You)'s.
look at his other reply, it's exactly that

>>717034781 (OP)
the bleary desaturated orange filter over everything at night made me depressed. still blast™ ing though
DD2 mogs everything out since and prior. Just needs that DLC.

solid 8/10

DD1 walked so DDON could power walk so DD2 could jog (in place).

>>717043378
>make a worthless shitpost because someone didn't pretend damage numbers in real games are fine
>get a shitpost calling you a subhuman
>get mad
Monkey.

>>717043378
Are you the retard that posted this
>>717042585
?

>>717034781 (OP)
i did but it was empty and hollow. the story might as well not have existed.

>>717034781 (OP)
dogshit game. you're only king for 5 minutes, in the end credits... wtf! also, the unique brothel, is more censored than yakuza games...

>>717043351
Your criticisms were ignored because they weren't worth picking, but if you really want to be a pedantic faggot because you need attention, then here you go babe.
>ui is like an mmo
Why yes, you would see HP bars of your party members and guilds and the like for the social features of an mmo. It's almost like it's a DD game that happens to be an MMO, the original point.
>controls like an mmo
What did you even mean by this? I'm still assuming you're baiting here because you said nothing about the class gameplay when it was directly brought up, other than "nooo it's bad" and you're having a meltdown over being ignored. Several of the original classes play the same, with additional skills being added on top. There is one (1) class you could have had a point on, but since you've yet to bring it up I doubt you actually played it.
>"Are you ready to go?" UI is bad
I guess Monster Hunter is unplayable garbage too, huh?
>Loot isn't specifically modeled, it's bagged.
That's a nitpick and you know it.
>The game starts you in a hub instead of a basic town.
How is starting in the White Dragon Temple a bad thing with how the game introduces it to you? You aren't a spontaneous Arisen picked up off the shore in a little run-down town. This is something that is addressed in the first 15 minutes of the game. The arisen system is fundamentally different from DD1, and if you want to go full lore theorycraft on it, then you could even argue the entire game takes place in a world before The Cycle was created, given the presence of multiple dragons and arisen factions for various dragons.

Your entire original argument hinged on "online game bad, you're not a real Dragon's Dogma fan and never liked the series" which itself is a bait-tier fallacy that isn't worth giving an elaborate response to.

>>717043378
I suppose it is.

Dragon's Dogma 2 is unparalleled dogshit but I enjoy the "I had a blast" meme. It's a dogwhistle invoked by viral marketers pretending DD2's Itsuno vision delivered.

>>717044092
>Your criticisms were ignored because they weren't worth picking, but if you really want to be a pedantic faggot because you need attention, then here you go babe.
Acting like a faggot doesn't do anything except make you come off like a faggot.
>It's almost like it's a DD game that happens to be an MMO, the original point.
No, it's an MMO that has a light DD coat of paint.
>What did you even mean by this? I'm still assuming you're baiting here because you said nothing about the class gameplay when it was directly brought up
Compare the control scheme of DD to DDO. Literally look at what the buttons do and how different parts of the UI are accessed. Your hyper focusing on a few of the classes being like DD in terms of moveset, so I'll refer you to this again
>If all it takes for you to call something a DD game is pawns existing, the visuals and combat somewhat resembling DD, then you never really liked DD to begin with.
>I guess Monster Hunter is unplayable garbage too, huh?
Nice non-sequitur, but we're not talking about MH. Sounds like you're just shitposting like a retard now.
>That's a nitpick and you know it.
No it is absolutely not. You don't care about design or immersion, because you're the kind of "person" who thinks MMO mechanics and UI are fine. For people who actually like DD, those things are important.
>How is starting in the White Dragon Temple a bad thing with how the game introduces it to you?
Because it's a sterile, lifeless MMO hub and not a town or city in an RPG.
>Your entire original argument hinged on
My entire argument is that MMOs and their design choices suck, and DDO is mired in them. You've done absolutely nothing to argue against that. You throwing the word "fallacy" into that sentence haphazardly doesn't strengthen your position. It just once again highlights that you're a redditor pseud.

>>717044092
>entire argument is about whether DDO feels more like DD or an MMO
>everything you say is "Okay well it's like an MMO, but that's a good thing"
As someone who hasn't tried DDO, you just confirmed to me that it's an MMO and not a DD game. Thanks.

>>717039220
>>717039694
for the same reason Monster Hunter Frontier was never brought here.
C.O.G is unironically filled with racists at the top positions. They despise gaijin

>>717044291
>It's a dogwhistle invoked by viral marketers pretending DD2's Itsuno vision delivered.

>>717036392
I have colelction of vids from the subreddit and 4chan but aint got time to post 'em.

>>717034781 (OP)
Blasted that crust

>>717037484
Honestly same. With this shit and Wilds, Capcum overtook KT as the worst japshit PC porters in the business.

>>717039220

Whito piggu cannot grasp the complexity of non-tab targeting MMO gameplay.

This should have happened in the middle of the game, not the last 95%.

anyone who was paying attention could tell it was going to be bad after using the early character creator.

>>717034781 (OP)
Yes, actually. It was pretty much the best game to come out of 2024. Flaws and all

>>717046684
This. The reveal is great and is leagues more interesting than the political shite, it comes far too late when you just want to be done with the game after realizing how unambitious its open world is. DD1 gets away with this because its a much smaller and shorter game, you hit the reveal in a timely manner and it ends leaving you with all loose ends tied up. I feel there couldve been more done with the entire concept in DD2, feels like a half baked game.
>dragon that is bigger than grigori right at the end, what the fuck is that
>pawn turns into a shadow monster
>have to help people escape the "real world" by taking them to a safe harbour
Nigga couldve been elaborated on for gameplay stuff. You couldve had to keep doing NG+ where there are changes and you have to keep trying to save as many people as possible for that run like its Dead Rising, every NPC has a unique name and profile even to suport this, dead NPCs do not respawn in DD2, and have enemy pawns instead of the dragon aids, that stuff was neat the first time but then you basically never engage with it again and just dump any pawn that has it.

I want more DD, I didnt hate DD2 enough to say that I wouldnt buy an expansion or a sequel if they made one, but ho boy, Im not buying it at that price again.

>>717045509
based

>>717046676
Yet had multiple MMO's during the early 00s doing that exact thing? Capcom were retards basically

Deep down would've crusted both of these dogshit games so fucking hard
and it's not even close

>>717035220
They coulnt even make it as good as 1, kill yourself Wojak nigger.

>>717037847
FPBP
/thread

>>717038764
At least he doesn't have Dragon's Dogshit on his resume.

>>717047948
From gameplay it was going to be a F2P dungeon diving game.

>>717048460
Let me guess
You need more

They made a sequel?

The biggest issue with DD2 is the lack of end game content. The story being shit doesnt really matter (it does but DD can easily handle that) because the gameplay is what carries DD, if they simply added some sort of endless mode, people would still be playing it in a more in depth manner than they are today. A dungeon, endless version off the unmoored world or literally just a better NG+ with more challenge and this game lifecycle would be much longer. I dont get how the devs cant even give us something simple that would make loads of people happy, give us a better NG+ with a hardmode and boom, people would be having fun with the game again for months to come.

>>717034851
fpbp

I had a blast.

>>717034781 (OP)
Hell no!

>>717051154
Tsujimoto is too busy sabotaging the company to make slop no one asked for

>>717037847
I still don't understand what compelled retards to spam the board for over a year, and for a fucking Game they claim to not like. they tried it again with expedition 33 but were blown the fuck out decisively early on

>>717035220
It didn't need a big budget. They should have just made another DD expansion.
WHY does the game run like shit?
WHY does the game feel unresponsive and sluggish?
I think you see where I am going with this.

I think they genuinely thought DD2 was a fine game to release and in a complete state. It barely got touched up and patched (on ALL platforms) and there doesn't seem to even be content left inside.
I think rather than having leftover shit to finish up and push out to make up for what the game failed to accrue at start (like DD1), they just pushed it out after YEARS of delays and pushbacks.
It was supposed to come out in like fucking 2022, remember. It's been indev for YEARS, and this was what they put out. No amount of work would have made it good, they didn't have ideas.
The "plot twist" is really about the only good thing.

>>717052815
>and there doesn't seem to even be content left inside
>a bunch of hidden doors inside caves all over the map that could be opened with the godsbane
Right.

>>717053149
I mean actual content, developed or partially finished. Random fucking doors don't mean anything, you're just barking up the bloodborne tree with "MUH DOOR".

>>717051369
Same ngl desu

>>717053375
Seeing how the doors themselves have unfinished rooms behind some of them, they're obvious cut content there that was supposed to be used. Your copes dont matter.

Maybe he'll get it right with a third game

>>717053480
thats some crazy head cannon bro. like dude, take your meds, all of them and really fast.

>>717053567
Go back to your shitcord, sister.

>>717053621
>you must believe my schizo rambling or you are a le tranny reeee
shit up nigger, lmao.

>>717053737
Whatever you say, phonenigger.

It was an unfinished piece of shit. I initially blamed Itsuno, but given Wild's problems too, there's obviously something terribly wrong at Capcom.
Anyway, I can't believe there are still faggots defending this garbage, get some taste you fucking slugs.

>>717054647
The issue is that every game that's come out for the last 2 years (And likely the next 3 to come) all got fucking OBLITERATED by covid. It completely shit on a then almost SOLIDIFIED release schedule for capcom projects as of like may 2020. SF6 was supposed to be Q3 2022, ultra sf6 was supposed to be out by now (Some might argue that the new 1+2 pack is supposed to mirror ultra but there's not been any actual major patch for it)
Captain commando, MH6 (wilds) was pushed back 2 whole ass years as well. So was DD2.
They also had to severely rework shit like new onimusha (due to launch same window as RE4make, 2022), final fight remake, power stone remake (likely still coming based on their marketing it in fighting collection 2)
Let's not forget RE hunk/hank, which we know is still happening based on RE4 leftovers.

Capcom was an old school studio, and they did not have plans or preparations for something like covid. Most companies had issues but capcom got THRASHED by it. They haven't released a successful title in almost 3 years besides SF6.
Let's not forget fucking RE:verse. A whole ass asymmetric slasher type thing that capcom genuinely thought would be successful. That shut down like, a month ago after never peaking above 10k players across ALL PLATFORMS.
Exoprimal too, they took the dino crisis property and basically just turned it into a weird MMO because they heard squenix was making outriders and thought it would be popular (although compared to exoprimal...)
It has just been abject failure after failure, SF6 is the only one that's come out in even remote recency that's been successful.
Wilds I guess sold pretty well, though it's had very poor sustained players, so we'll have to see how cataclysm sells or performs because they've very clearly been unpleased with the numbers it did, meaning it probably took a LOT.

I'm just sad, honestly. All those games got fucked over because capcom sucks ass. I have 0 hope for pragmata either.