Why is Sonic unpopular in japan?

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic is popular in japan, he's just not as popular as he is in the west comparatively.

Based Japan. Sonic was never good.

Sonic who?

>>717034915 (OP)
Mega Drive did not do so good there.

>>717034915 (OP)
Isn't it Shadow that's popular? Korone is gaga over him and she's the official Sonic ambassador.

>>717036242
why has there never been a 2d sonic game with shadow as a playable character? like a classic style game, mania 2 with sonic/tails/knuckles/amy/shadow as the playables. Would work imo.

>>717034915 (OP)
He is an asshole
Ever wonder why shonen protagonist are all meek? There is your answer
They dont like HEY OH SANIC HERE SPEED MAH GAME GOTTA GO FAST CHAKACHAKA BOOMBOOM protagonist attitude

>>717036242
No?

>>717034915 (OP)
He's not charming in any way unless you are 10 or a furry

>>717036408
Yeah that personality is offputting to the japanese, that arrogance is how the antagonists behave in anime not the protagonist.

>>717034915 (OP)
>Japs are retarded episode 99

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic doesn't make good arcade games
Sega is a big arcade game company over there, more than a home console one

>>717036408
>CHAKACHAKA BOOMBOOM
Damn, you're a hardcore Sonic fan. Only people who've beaten Sonic Triple Trouble in Japanese know that line.

>>717036408
They also dont care for sonic gameplay, its action but its too easy
They like sonic adventure the most though because at least it had some story worth a damn to compensate

>>717034915 (OP)
>Sonic is unpopular in Jap-

>>717034915 (OP)
They arent furries. They are into anime girls over there.

>>717036408
What about Dante?

This story always crack me up.

>>717034915 (OP)
>As someone who's worked for 2 SEGA studios and on 2 Sonic titles
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS NIGGA?

>>717038506
context?

Sonic is too American for them.

>>717036408
Japanese people are weird.
When I was talking to a Japanese girl recently she kept saying "mmhmm" whenever I talked and refused to make eye contact. When I asked if I was boring her, she said "yeah".
I got the impression she wasn't interested but then she got mad that I hadn't texted her back her back, it was bizarre.

>>717035954
SPBP

>>717035954
If it was never good, it would have never become popular. Shit can't become iconic and inspire other creators

>>717034915 (OP)
>Most Japanese have no clue why he's so popular in the West."

That's makes 2 of us.

>>717036408
Not always, you've delinquent mcs like Jotaro and yusuke

Compare Sonic's personsality to that of the typical Japanese protagonist. That's why he's not popular there.

The only Japanese protagonists that are similar to Sonic are shonen protagonists like Goku, Naruto, or Luffy, the latter two being intentionally designed to be "non-Japanese".

Undertale has a bigger audience in Japan compared to Sonic

sonic is a weapon created to incapacitate western kids with crippling autism for life

>>717040212
Gintoki is kinda like Sonic

>>717035281
>Sonic is popular in japan
Pretty sure every Sonic movie has flopped in Japan, even the last one which had a whole Tokyo sequence specifically to attract Japanese audiences.
Japanese audiences only care about the IP when it puts out something that's completely alien in presentation, like Frontiers did with Sage, the programmer art enemies, and all its generic Unreal environments.

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic has never had a million seller in Japan. Westerners are the only reason Sonic isn't in the same mass grave with all the other 1990s platforming mascots.

>>717036339
They'd never make a classic-style game with Shadow because he was stuck in a tube until SA2, and all classic games take place before that point.
That's Iizuka's explanation, at least.

>>717039829
why do normies say dumb shit and expect me to care bout their dumb problems
>durr i talked to a girl and she didn't suck my cock IM GOING INSANE

>>717040738
calm down virgin

>>717036880
>its action but its too easy
I thought it was the opposite where they actually find sonic games to be too hard
that fasted-paced style of platforming just doesn't appeal to them, which would explain why japanese devs have focused so much on automation over the years (you get to feel "fast" without demanding too much on the player's end)

Sonic as a series is all about sucking Sonic's dick and showing off how cool he is. Even Shadow primarily exists to fellate Sonic by showing that he's equal to a genetically engineered bioweapon.

>>717039331
Yuji Naka is an asshole with an ego problem and has basically burned all possible bridges over the years.

>>717040050
>If it was never good, it would have never become popular.
Pogs and wood paneling disprove this concept.

>>717036098
i would kill to have all the virtual on games on steam.

>>717040340
I don't get how does it work, it's just a fucking hedgehog that runs fast.

>>717040698
2D does not need to equate to the usage of classic designs.

>>717036408
>Ever wonder why shonen protagonist are all meek? There is your answer
No idea what you're talking about.
At best, most shounen protagonists are oblivious to romance or social norms in general, but very few are outright meek.
Currently airing right now is the ever popular (in Japan) YAIBA, which is a show with a protagonist that is such an incredibly massive asshole that the first few episode threads were 90% people asking if he was even meant to be likable.
>b-b-but that's a remake!
Also airing right now is Hanako-kun, a series with a protagonist that is a pervert who forces a girl to work for him so he can be around her and talk about her massive ankles.

>>717041278
Simple, easy to understand but appealing characters

Sonic is like Pokemon in that the actual content of the series is irrelevant, the characters and world have just enough to spark the player's imagination and let them fill in the rest

>>717037262
That's just part of Sega's attempt to make Sonic gain a foothold in Japan retard, by doing more Japan centric promotions with a crude, almost SD version of his design.
A few months ago they did a PV for that Sonic & Friends shit that was deliberately referencing one of the most popular Detective Conan OPs. It's all marketing, not actual popularity.

>>717034915 (OP)
Curse of Sega, sega was considered hot trash garbage dumpster fire and Nintendo was the one they championed instead, in US, Sega's design principles matched more with American audiences and especially the masculine, edgy vibes of Sonic compared to all ages and genders mario design helped it sell overseas.

>>717041338
You were the one who specifically said "classic style game".
Sonic Team isn't going to make a fully 2D game otherwise since their 3D titles already feature 2D sections.

>shilling your twitter on /v/
kill yourself

>>717040212
>like Goku, Naruto, or Luffy, the latter two being intentionally designed to be "non-Japanese".
Naruto is a very standard Japanese protagonist lol, the only person who'd say this is someone who doesn't actually read much manga.
His story is just a more dramatic version of Kinnikuman's when you REALLY boil it down. An outcast that nobody has any belief in who consistently shows people up through his BURNING INNER STRENGTH.
Unless you mean his design is meant to not be a Japanese guy- that's also not true. He has the same cat-face all anime characters have, but his hair and eyes are just a play on delinquents who bleach their hair and wear colored contacts.

>>717040738
>normies

>>717041675
"Like a classic style game"

Wasn't me that said that btw.

I don't think they will make a full 2d game because their last attempt went horribly.

>>717040212
Goku isn't really Japanese either, he's clearly based on Chinese myth.

>>717036408
Goku and Naruto and Luffy and Yusuke aren't meek though

The only thing Japanese about Sonic is it bloating itself with superfluous or redundant characters

>>717039331
It's from a meeting between Peter Moore and Yuji Naka when Peter Moore was the lead of Sega of America.

Basically, Peter Moore showed Yuji a subtitle recording of an American focus group made up of teenagers where they basically all said Sega was lame and old and gay.

>>717039829
She just liked having you talk anon.
Most couples find what the other person is saying boring.

>>717034915 (OP)
>Sonic
Who? That loser from the Olympics games? Wolfes are cooler.

>>717041828
Kishimoto said he designed Naruto to be non-Japanese in order to appeal to Western audiences more.

>>717041828
>the only person who'd say this is someone who doesn't actually read much manga.
You'd be surprised at how many people talk about Japanese stuff and not Watch/Read Anime/Manga

>>717041978
thanks. it really speaks to the bullheadedness of SEGA Japan in the 90s

>>717042117
>ynr Sonic was deliberately designed off Felix the Cat

>>717041886
>"Like a classic style game"
Yeah? What other way is there to take that? Should used "Advance" or "Rush" if one didn't want to allude to the original "classic" games.
Also their last attempt sold almost 3 million copies based on internal sales numbers. They're not dropping those projects anytime soon, especially since they're made on the cheap compared to other projects.

>>717042058
Doing cursory research, he designed Naruto to stand out taking cues from foreigners in how they perceive ninjas and making Naruto the opposite of that (all bright colors).
He didn't do it to appeal to western audiences. That's a misconception for when he was giving input on the anime, where he wanted a studio that appealed more to international audiences (hence settling on Pierrot).

>>717041828
imagine being btfo by sonic-fan, you fucking fag, lmao. Ichigio Kurosaki was the only delinquent (yankii) colored of the big four by default due to his natural red hair which people assumed he was a delinquent for due to his hair and grumpy looks despite being a good natured type of guy.

Sonic is an IP that was originally designed to appeal to westerners. Sega is deep in denial about this, for some reason.

>>717040050
>If it was never good, it would have never become popular.
nu-neo-modern-\v\ logic

>>717034915 (OP)
>Why is Sonic unpopular in Japan?
Because his games are all shit.

>>717037675
/thread

>>717034915 (OP)
Some dude on twitter surely is the voice of authority on this topic :^)

>>717042648
Whether or not he a lying faggot, that guy's voice is a drop in the bucket anyway. Sonic having barely any relevance in Japan has been known things for decades now.

>>717042513
>Ichigio Kurosaki was the only delinquent (yankii) colored of the big four
Yankee is pretty much any brightly dyed hair- including bleaching your hair. Ichigo's strawberry hair is not even the typical understanding of that.
To play off of your erroneous use of "big four" (it's big three for a reason), Dragon Ball outright states what the typical delinquent look is- it's Gohan in the Cell arc. Blonde hair that looks bleached.
There's been a very popular delinquent anime that does the same, all the characters have white or blond hair.

>>717040050
It attracts mega autism. That's the only reason.

>>717039829
That's women in general anon. Fickle as fuck.
>god this guy is boring
>a couple hrs later
>why isn't he texting me

>>717035281
Quit kidding yourself, anon. Nobody there has cared since Adventure, and Frontiers only got anywhere because A. it was designed to sucker in BotW fans and B. Sage pedobaiting.

Japan doesnt like furfaggotry

>>717043178
Explain Pokemon

>>717042889
Autists make up too little of the population to be profitable

>>717042861
> Yankii is only one color.
Aaand you are a retard non-Japanese person, your permission to speak on any parts of that culture is revoked.

>>717043178
Sonic isn't furry.

>>717043297
>> Yankii is only one color.
>Aaand you are a retard non-Japanese person,
You were the one insisting that dumbass.
You saw my post and said Ichigo was the only one with "delinquent colored" hair, and now you backpedal here to say actually, that's not the only color, but also, Ichigo's isn't even typical.
Which is it dumbass?

Does it really matter if Sonic is not big in Japan when he's made billions of dollars for Sega already?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
>7.37 billion dollars
Does it matter where the money is coming from? Zelda is big in Japan but hasn't made anywhere near as much money as Sonic.
>>717043178
Pokemon

>>717043313
Zoomers who grew up with easy access to cartoon porn think all cartoon animals are "furry" now.

>>717043313
>Sonic isn't furry.

>>717043313
m8 come on

>>717043552
He's like a Mickey Mouse, would you call Mickey a furry?

>>717043405
Go literally fucking read Bleach, its stated in the manga, everyone's giving him hard time because he looks like a Delinquent (Yankii) you fucking retardo. It means ANY loud and bright colored dyed hair in that sub-culture and a rebellious natured person with penchant for throwing fits and acting obnoxiously loud to set themselves apart from the rest. That's a YANKII. Fucking faggot.

>>717043693
Do you speak English?

>>717043670
Yes.

>>717043670
Mickey Mouse isn't friends with Tails the fox.

>>717043552
>>717043629
Sonic's a rubberhose character.

>>717043763
Do you read your own posts fucking ESL wannabe japanese expert? You yourself stated
> "ONLY BLEACHED (white/silver same thing in manga) HAIR MAKES ONE A YANKII!"
You are a fucking idiot that should stop breathing.

>>717043670
... Yeah.

>>717043824
Sonic is an anthropomorphic hedgehog.

>>717043887
It's deeply ironic to play the ESL card when you have outed yourself with this post.
Behold, what I actually said
>but his hair and eyes are just a play on delinquents who bleach their hair and wear colored contacts.
This isn't saying all delinquents. It says "delinquents who do X". It's very obvious that not all of them even dye their hair.

>>717043815
>Tails the fox

>>717036408
One piece is the most popular shounen in japan, and Luffy is far from meek.

>>717044041
You are the one confusing language of YANKII delinquent from the average delinquent holy shit, YANKII is a SUBCULTURE of DELINQUENT behavior its different from BOOSOZOKU or other YOUTH SUBCULTURES in JAPAN.

Shoot yourself you fucking bastard and never open your mouth again.

>>717044153
I have seen Tails placed in every single degenerate situation possible, paired with OCs of all shapes and sizes.
He is a furry ICON.
I've seen him eat shit. I've seen him kissing the fucking bee thing from Sonic while in a diaper. I've seen him getting preyed on by aged up versions of Amy Rose. I've seen him on a bench. He is undeniable proof that Sonic is FAR from Mickey Mouse.

>>717034915 (OP)
They like cat girls, not furries.

>>717043995
>Sonic is an anthropomorphic hedgehog.
Who's designed like a rubberhose character. Your entire perception of what is and isn't furry is skewed.
I guess >>717043548 was right.

>>717044228
>yankee
The traits I described also apply to yankee retard.

>>717044351
Its called Yankii keep misspelling it retard ESL cunt, lmao.

>>717044405
>Its called Yankii
The word is a play on English loanwords. Unless you're writing the term out on a Japanese keyboard, you're spelling it wrong.

>>717044475
And you are a retard trying to backpedal, fuck off already you piece of shit.

>>717044562
We've finally reached the no u stage of the argument.
You're a retard. I'm done.

>>717044626
You were the retard saying you aren't the retard in the first place doubling on retardation, nobody writes Yankii as Yankee when referring to delinquents, off yourself whoreson.

>>717044562
You are retarded

>>717044153
Nadia owes me sex

>>717044759
Ditto.

>>717044709
> No proof.
> No you arguments.
> Backpedalling.
> Finally only insults.
You are chinese, pretty clear, keep posting your shitty english as an attempt to pass off as American you slant eyed whoreson.

>>717036098
The Hedgehog™

>sonic was never popular in europe
>keep seeing autistic sonic shot from overseas
>never understood the obsession
>apparently the japanese find this as weird as the europeans
wait just a second - is this a low IQ thing? US is know for having an extremely large black population (which are causing the majority of social problems over there, let's be real), and the biggest know sonic fans are non-functioning autists and black kids, speak: absolute retards, demons in human skin, too stupid to live, but society holds on to them for some reason. there is some correlation here.

>>717044930
Sonic was mid-popular, a bit more popular than mario in Millennial culture in Europe but after that sonic dropped off.

>>717044868
The entire subculture is plagiarised from Americans. Yankiis were the original westaboos. You're embarrassing yourself beyond projecting ESL

Robotnik is evil!

>>717044985
absolutely not. I remember how they tried pushing sonic environmental comic strips on kids back in elementary school, and nobody even knew who he was.

>>717044153
Miles the fox* sorry

>>717044930
There are more Hispanics in the US than blacks.

>>717034915 (OP)
revisionist shit from people who ruined cool japan

>>717044313
>Who's designed like a rubberhose character.
Literally nobody accepts this cope. The characters are still anthros, period.

>Sonic fans pretending they're not furries
Jesus you people are fucked in the head.

>>717045186
Sonic games sell less than 100k in japan

>>717044675
Calm down nigger. Read the bible.

>>717045029
> Plagiarized.
Holy shit you outplayed your hand right there slant-eyed whoreson.
> All this anti-american seethe, westaboos, now finally saying Yankii instead of Yankee.
You are still Chinese, they were just taking Western culture not plagiarizing and making it part of their youth rebellion inspired by punk sub-culture more or less which is a British thing however their brash Behavior was more American inspired. They took parts that fit and melded it into their own culture. You are not American, you are Chinese probably 2nd generation migrant to US LOL.

>>717045184
true, I sometimes forget that various shades of subhuman exist, they all look the same to me

I live in Japan and there is almost no Sonic merch here. Like, I can go to the Sega store but it's really small. But then there's shittons of Harry Potter and Disney here - like Disney is SUPER fucking popular, especially the shit ones.

>>717043242
Maybe 30 years ago, in 200 years the United States will be nothing but manchild autists and Amish people.

>>717045238
Them being anthropomorphic animals is almost never acknowledged in-series. They're just called "people" and are treated as equivalent to humans.

>>717044868
Learn the history of the subculture your trying to speak to. It's repopularized greaser culture from American GI's who were stationed in Japan after the 2nd world war.

>>717045367
Women like Disney and Potter merch and Japan has quite a bit of women there with money. Well, Disney was also the main reason with "duck comics" (donald duck) that inspired Japanese first Mangaka and then rest followed.

>>717045186
Soul...

>>717039829
>this loser is so boring OMG
>OMG why is this boring loser ignoring me??? He should be infatuated with me because I'm way out of his league
It's not complicated and all women think like this not just japs.

>>717045448
> Greaser culture and Yankii are the same.
They are completely different cultures, nice AI bot level hallucination.

>>717045367
What about Harry Potter do they like?

>>717034915 (OP)
That’s literally false though
Though Mike is SEGA’s main representative in Japan now

>>717045287
Originally evolved from rockabilly and rock n roll, American yankee culture chinese projecting loser, not punk.

>>717045726
Miku*
Fucking lol

>>717045649
>pompadours perfecto jackets and rockabilly music
you don't know shit about yankii

>>717034915 (OP)
THIS IS FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE AS SOMEONE WHO DID BUGTESTING FOR SEGA I AM COMPLETELY QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT A COUNTRY I'M NOT FROM

I hope every American is forced to move to every country they want to speak for and work unpaid labour for the rest of their lives as punishment for being upjumped cunts.

>>717045729
Wrong again, the sub-genre of youth culture that took the most from that was the Boosozoku, literal greased up hairs and all that. Yankii were a step further they dyed their hairs, boozosoku didn't, Yankii were loud mouthed individuals who picked up fights Boosozoku were more like greasers and motorcycle clubs tossed together. The Yankii woudl listen to punk music Boosozoku would listen to Rock and Metal those are the general difference between the two.

>>717045573
This is Sonic in a nutshell. Anything else is tryhard or out of character.

>>717045726
>That’s literally false though
Proof?

>>717043178
Kemono (not Kemonomimi) is an entire category of Japanese furry and says otherwise. Hell Beastars is outright regular furry.

>>717043476
>>717043238
Talking anthro animals are not the same as Pokémon. Get fucking real

>>717046036
Truth

>>717045238
>The characters are still anthros, period.
And? Do you consider pic related a furry also? Walking around on two feet doesn't make something furry. Again, your entire perception is skewed, I guess because you weren't around back when "furries" were a specific sub-culture that orbited around a specific visual style and not some generic tag thrown around by underage children.
>Sonic fans pretending they're not furries
There are definitely Sonic fans who are furries, but Sonic himself is not a "furry" character. He's too cartoonish.

>>717036408
Sonic says nothing in the Genesis games.

>>717045186
>company tries to advertise mascot at their biggest domestic venue

What a shocker.

Because Sonic is not honest and sincere, he is ironic and pretentious, his whole concept as a character, his developers and his fans share the same idea.

>>717045238
They're forever associated with fucking a
CHRIS CHAN
They'll always be desperate to shed that label.

>>717046247
Yes

>>717046323
Sexy time with sonic? Yes. Sexy… mmmm. Sexy sonic.

>>717034915 (OP)
From watching Uncle from Another World I know that's a lie, Japanese Sega fans, while not rabid like western Sonic fans, still likes sonic

>>717034915 (OP)
How did the movies do in japan?

>>717046247
>Do you consider pic related a furry also?
Yes. Anthro wallaby is still an anthro regardless of artstyle. The fuck is this cope, anon?

>>717046390
Well too fucking bad. Being a furry isn't even all that taboo anymore. There are celebrities who are openly furry. Come on now.

>>717040572
i like sonic but i also have and will never watch a sonic movie. because i like the games, aka interactive media. i don't think movies doing well means shit

>>717045573
Look at that exaggerated swagger of a blue hedgehog

>>717046390
Chris Chan doesn't even care about Sonic anymore.

>>717046323
Sonic is 100% sincere.

>>717046036
No, this is Sonic.

>>717046468
I don't even recognize this show, and I have no context for this scene, but it's still obvious that this is a comedy scene where the joke is that this guy is a weird loser.

>>717041978
When would that have been?

>>717046294
1. Genesis-era Sonic was a complete non-entity in Japan.
2. In spite of that, Sonic's idle animations in those games deliberate paint him as impatient and slightly abrasive. Hell, in Sonic CD he will outright end the game on his own terms if you wait around too long.

>>717046468
>Japanese Sega fans
Crumbling remnants of the past, who are STILL bitter about how the whole Sega thing went down in flames.

>>717046678
Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth

>>717034915 (OP)
Wtf why this nigga all over video games. He also worked on Suicide Flop. Which Sonic games did he work on?? Sonic Boom and Sonic Chronicles?

>>717034915 (OP)
FAKE NEWS.

>>717046547
I'm a Gamefag too and I watched all three movies, the thing I hate the most is Movie Sonic himself he's ugly, annoying, and a fucking jobber

Sega's biggest mistake was making a billion different versions of Sonic.

>>717035954
Japan don't like Metroid and F-Zero too.
Are these series bad series?

>>717046681
Doesn't stop things like Hellsing.

>>717046547
That's nice anon, but the point was showing that Japan has essentially no interest in the IP in any form, which includes a movie specifically made to appeal to Japanese audiences.

>>717036242
You can't tell me Sonic has never been popular in JP and also have stuff like this in a premier anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvavclgsp9k

>>717046795
Yeah.

>>717046671
>Don't just sit there and waste your precious time. When you want to do something, do it right away. Do it when you can. It's the only way to live a life without regrets.
If your response was a gotcha moment, it wasn't a good one.

>>717040419
Not really. Gintoki is far more cynical on average than sonic.

>>717046795
BUT THAT'S NINTENDOOOOO SO THOSE DOESN'T COUNTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>717045715
You know, I can't really tell. I don't really understand it. I think it might be the school setting, and there's an element of reverence for western/white culture too (like Hogwarts is set in the Scottish Highlands). For example, I was talking with some Japanese girls and the question came up of "what is a gentleman?" and they said "he's from England!!" like, that's not necessarily a prerequisite to be a gentleman, but that's how they see it.

>>717046790
>the character we expect him to be
>WOOOOOAAAH!
>OOFF!
>BING BIP WAHHAAAA WEEEHEEEEEEE
wasn't sunshine the last game any of the characters in a mario game spoke something other than gibberish? character isn't important for mario games when it is in sonic

>>717046541
>The fuck is this cope, anon?
What would I even be coping with? Something being anthropomorphic doesn't automatically equal furry. That has never been the case. Does an anthropomorphic ketchup bottle fall under a specific label also?

>>717047016
>No Mamma mia

>>717047016
Mario characters speak proper English in every game, Sunshine was just the last time the cutscenes were voiced. They still speak plenty in gameplay.

>>717034915 (OP)
A better question would be why does the west like Sonic at all
Sega's consoles were massive flops in the west, his games aren't good and yet the west is obsessed with him.

>>717046790
Variants of sonic?

>>717047149

>>717046790
How was that a mistake? Other multimedia IPs (e.g., Batman) have been doing the same shit for decades now.
It's only a problem with autists because they need everything to use the one specific version of the character they personally like.

And Mario barely has a character in the first place. That's why Nintendo can easily "flex" him into any role they want, because there's basically nothing to flex.

>>717047149

>>717046212
Probably one of the main reasons Sonic isn't a big deal in Japan is because it's so blatantly an expy of other media, case in point, Super Sonic is straight up plagiarized from Dragonball, which is a time-honoured property in Japan.
In the west we got Sonic before Dragonball so most people don't make the connection; to the Japanese it's just another Hello Kitty-esque furry animal stealing ideas from better manga for the laughs. Sonic isn't something to take seriously.

>>717046673
He's a huge Segafag

>>717047408
None of what you said makes sense because Sonic rips off just as much American media (Mickey Mouse, Felix, Star Wars) and was still insanely popular.

>>717046468
Sonic wasn't mentioned in Gintama's Wii arc but Shenmue was.

>>717040050
>Shit can't become iconic and inspire other creators
Explain Twilight then
And Justin Bieber
And the Hawk Tuah girl
And Jamie Oliver
And Two and a Half Men
And Snyderverse
And the MCU
And Genshin Impact

because not as many furries in Japan, despite higher rates of autism. Sonichu is claimed by furry autists who also make sweet love to their mothers.

>>717046868
Frontiers is the only """Sonic""" game that did kinda well in japan

>>717047408
>In the west we got Sonic before Dragonball
In the USA*

>>717034915 (OP)
>most nip consumers only play Dragon Quest clones, waifu gachas and waifu VN's
>most remaining consumers grew up on better options than Sonic's mediocrity
>most kemono furfags there aren't into Sonic's brand of furfag

Not to say there isn't a small dedicated fandom there and occasionally SEGA can snatch from other fandoms like Frontiers desperately tried to, but for the most part Sonic's only Japanese heritage is its developers.

>>717047408
If this were the case, then Naruto would not be a huge success. It ripped off so much from Hunter x Hunter.

>>717040212
Naruto isn't designed to be Japanese? But he's literally a ninja?

>>717046795
To be fair, these series aren't popular *anywhere*

>>717046790
Why are Sonicfags unable to comprehend the idea of different interpretations? Literally no other multimedia franchise has fans this stupid. Like, you don't see TMNT fans bitching that each version of Leonardo is different. Why is it so imperative that Sonic be exactly the same every time?

I MUST
CONSOOOOOOM

>>717045393
huh the lgtv chart looks about the same for some reason, I blame the internet

>>717034915 (OP)
Japan likes kawaii shit and big titty (non-furry) coomer slop. Sonic has neither. It’s too western and too unoriginal as well.

>>717046916
You really missed anon's point about aesthetics and how that attitude can be expressed differently, autist-kun.

Would Sonic be more popular there if he was a she?

>>717048525
Let me think about it.

>>717034915 (OP)
THEY HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!
HE RUINS THEIR MARKETS!

>>717048471
>japan
>caring about originality

The most popular media there have all been aping a NES game for decades now.

>>717048515
The character is fundamentally the same regardless of his design, hence the quote.

Is Donkey Kong popular in Japan?
Is Kirby popular in Japan?
Is Metroid popular in Japan?
Is Bomberman popular in Japan?
Is Mega Man popular in Japan?

>>717048730
That doesn't mutually exclude the prior comment about the different design thougbeit, which was anon's point.

>>717040950
Nice projection.

>>717034915 (OP)
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>>717049019
I like both designs. Now what?

>>717047149
Sonic character design hit the jackpot in checking all the autism-appeal boxes, good enough to carry a zombie franchise for decades. It's like Hello Kitty but for boys.

>>717049180
Nobody said you couldn't. I do as well.

>>717047358
Batman's core remains the same across all the different interpretations.

>>717034915 (OP)
Is anything popular in Japan anymore besides gachas?

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic was for poor kids

>>717049371
Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter, always and forever

>>717049443
They hated Wilds though.

>>717049410
this.
Most retards don't remember when there were only 3 channels on the air for free, and one of them was WB/Fox. So they got Sonic X.

>>717048138
If you can change everything about a character except their name and general design, they aren't really a character anymore at that point.

All the different versions of Sonic are completely different characters with the same name and similar designs for brand recognition.

If you're going to change everything about the character, just make a new character instead.

>>717047358
>Other multimedia IPs (e.g., Batman) have been doing the same shit for decades now.

Batman is the worst example you could use, he's where the phrase "not muh" came from

>>717034915 (OP)
Japs don't like mascots unless they're cute and not the main focus. It's why Sonic X had Chris Thorndyke.

>>717034915 (OP)
I actually don't know what makes him popular here. he's only had ONE good game in SA2B and everything else is literally garbage. autistis like cwc cling to him hard and root for below mid games.

>>717048525
No. Sonic's primary demographic is young brown males, it'd be like replacing Goku.

>>717049778
Sonic's personality is very American. He'd fit perfectly in a western, as a stranger who comes to town with a strong sense of justice but plays by his own rules. It's no wonder the Japs don't like him, Sonic would be the worst going along with a group just to fit in.

>>717046541
What fucking celebrity lol? Sonicfox???

>>717034915 (OP)
If the Japanese hate Sonic so much, then why did they make him?

>>717036242
Who?? Some obscure sonic character liking shadow doesnt somehow make the series popular

>>717034915 (OP)
out of all game fandoms sonic has to be one of the worst. no other series has so many infamous creeps like Chris Chan and others.

>>717051038
The official ambassador for Sonic
https://youtu.be/-rugMs1shyA

>>717034915 (OP)
The Sega Genesis was a failure in Japan, and Sega only started to become popular during the Saturn era.

>>717048525
Sonic for Hire reference? In 2025?

>>717051327
I'm not even a Vtuberfag, but this is kinda cute

>>717047149
>>Sega's consoles were massive flops in the west
Shhhh, nobody tells him that the Genesis managed to defeat the NES so bad in the US that NoA panicked and cried to NoJ to quickly release the SNES on the west.

>>717046468
>Japanese Sega fans
These still exist outside of Atlusfags?

>>717051886
On Japan, the Saturn sold more than the Nintendo 64.

>>717052003
>two decade old history when the question is about current times
Again I ask, Japanese Sega fans (((still))) exist?

>>717052003
And the Playstation sold more there than both combined.
The N64 was a big failure there.

>>717052128
They enjoy Virtua Fighter a lot still.
The revival sold poorly pretty much everywhere but had good sales in Japan.

>>717051784
She had a Sonic concert sponsored by Sega too but that shit was scrubbed from the internet via copyright claims.
Also Sonic Frontier DLC. All in all she's an exponentially better ambassador since she is obsessed with Sonic and actually plays the games.

>>717034915 (OP)
Why does sonic supposed unpopularity in Japan make this image funny?

safe edgy
sonic is cringe

>>717052375
She didn't even finish Sonic Frontiers lmao

>>717037942
Not a Shonen protag.

>>717053297
And? Sonic is kodomo, not shonen

>>717034915 (OP)
Is this supposed to be an insult? I'm sure they're crying over those massivelly successful movies.

>>717034915 (OP)
So Sonic made by the Japanese became more popular in América. Meanwhile Crash made by Americans became more popular in Japan.
What caused this to happen?

>>717034915 (OP)
even my 50 year old japanese wife knows sonic
but yeah sonic isnt seen very often here
for shadow generations i did see a decent amount of ads though but mainly places that sell games

>>717051784
I hate sonic X so much man FUCK those fucking lame 3 quills and the wrong shade of green for his eyes AAAAAAAAAAGHHH so God help me control my mighty autism.

He is popular with Japanese furry artists which is what matters the most.

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic only kicked off with Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and that game was mostly made by Americans. Sonic is an American product.

>>717054207
>Sonic 2
>Mostly made by Americans
Same game that introduced Sonic's "Super Saiyan" form and a Kitsune

>>717054121
"Tails" is just the alias Rouge uses to monitor Sonic to steal the Chaos Emeralds.

>>717034915 (OP)
sonic sucks

>>717054353
shut up faggot

>>717052375
The concert was great, she had Takenobu Mitsuyoshi sing the Burning Rangers and Kimi no Tame nara Shineru theme songs with her. It was a great show overall too.
Thank god I thought to use OBS to record both livestreams.

>>717054476
Thanks

>>717054341
Ironically enough Sonic 2 had more Japanese shit in it than Sonic 1(Mecha Sonic is a reference to MechaGodzilla and he even has like Red Mono eye like a Zaku)

>>717034915 (OP)
He was created by Sega of America.

>B-but SEGA is a Japanese company

WRONG. SEGA was founded by American businessman. The reason who Sega of America had so much influence was because it was an AMERICAN company.

Sonic Team was comprised entirely of AMERICANS. (Which is why their identities have never been made public) Yuki Naka was selected to be the 'face' of the team, even though he had nothing to do with the creation of the AMERICAN character.

>>717043178
Dude, they have a whole furry culture

>>717040338
No it doesn't. Try and talk about Undertale in Japanese gaming communiteis and you get blank looks.

It has NO following there.

>>717043178
Explain Polidog Patrol
https://youtu.be/C2j12RyxG60?si=qJVSLIMyCCACJEfH

>>717054526
Shut up f a g g o t

>>717040572
>every Sonic movie has flopped in Japan
based japanese

>>717054665
twitter ass argument

>>717034915 (OP)
Because he's westernised and cringe.

Why haven't they put her in a Sonic game yet?

>>717040572
>Pretty sure every Sonic movie has flopped in Japan,
because it's not sonic

>>717055892
I believe in CrossWorlds

>>717036339
both Rivals games were 2D and have Shadow

>>717034915 (OP)
Because Sonic always adapts to modern western cultures. He's essentially an annoying foreigner to them

>>717055892
Frontiers did in a japanese-only DLC

>>717050915
To appeal to Americans

>>717051215
That isn't why the Sonic fanbase is hated. They're hated for being divided; not agreeing with each other on anything due to all the different versions of Sonic that exist.

>>717056942
How is having diversity of thought a problem?

>>717057031
It leads to lots of infighting, which is what the Sonic fanbase is infamous for.

These different versions of Sonic and their fans cannot co-exist, they're incompatible

>>717055892
If it were something beyond collabs or spinoff shit they would have to make her a dog character that looks like the others instead of how she actually looks and she would be voiced by someone else outside of Japan

>>717056942
>The Sonic fanbase is full of autists, furries, groomers, manchildren and just cringey people
>But that's not the reason why it's hated, it's because people in the fandom argue
Get real.

>>717057085
>It leads to lots of infighting
You say that as if /v/ isn't full of autistic shitflinging. I doubt Sonic fans are more insufferable than /v/

>>717057198
>autists, furries, groomers, manchildren and just cringey people
Sounds just like the Pokemon fanbase.

>>717047548
>justin bieber
a legend
>mcu
good in the beginning until they doubled down with the excess low-effort humor and woke politics
>jamie oliver
at least he made a good grilled cheese sandwich, can't say the same about gordon ramsay

>>717057198
That side of the Sonic fanbase is fucking dead now. It was never autism or furries that gave the Sonic fanbase a bad reputation. It was the fact that they don't agree with each other on anything.

>>717051215
>Sonic fans bear the brunt of the responsibility for Chris Chan even though his OC is 50% pokemon
We're so persecuted bros...

>>717034915 (OP)
>character blatantly designed for the west isnt popular in japan

woah who cares

>>717034915 (OP)
Why are twitter fags so hyperbolic? Sure Sonic is not popular in Japan compared to the west but they are still iconic (SEGA arcade was plastered with Sonic before they got replaced with GIGO)
How does that translates to them HATING the thing?

>>717041854
normie as a term is older than your parents

Japanese society values conformity and Sonic as a character doesn't conform. He makes the world and other characters conform to HIM instead.

>>717048759
>Is Donkey Kong popular in Japan?
yes
>Is Kirby popular in Japan?
yes
>Is Metroid popular in Japan?
no
>Is Bomberman popular in Japan?
yes
>Is Mega Man popular in Japan?
yes

>>717057765
I don't know about the rest, but I'm pretty sure that the best selling Mega Man game was the 2nd one with only like 3 million units sold. So Mega Man is not popular anywhere. I also doubt Bomberman has had games with high sales.

>>717057567
There are only like 2 Sonic fan channels on japanese youtube and the 5chan Sonic thread is really dead. Sonic is incredibly niche in japan.

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic conformed by pandering to the LGTV attack helicopters
While Mario is a cuck now
No wonder Mario is more popular

>>717058014
>now

>>717034915 (OP)
Japan is lost to moe subculture; that's why you would only see the most generic moeblobs on billboards. Not even stuff like Dragon Ball, One Piece, My Hero Academia, and Gundam, which are insanely popular in Japan, are on any billboards. Also, Japan only likes Sonic Adventure-style games.

>>717034915 (OP)
Is there a Western property that is super popular in Japan despite not performing well here?

>>717057765
>Is Metroid popular in Japan?
>no
It should be noted however that the small number of fans that are there are extreme diehards, moreso than the biggest western fans

>>717034915 (OP)
because sonic is lame as hell

Sonic only blew up here because of the absolute kino intro with the truck chasing you in that 3d sonic gamecube game. Every kid in the Anglosphere was hypnotized by that shit, it was the most perfect coolest intro to a game we had ever seen
Personally never played any sonic game after that one though but I imagine it got lots of autismos hooked on the franchise

>>717054060
Sonic always has 3 quills when drawn 2D. You fucking retard.

>>717058127
I wouldn't say Peanuts didnt perform well here but nips fucking love Snoopy

>>717057765
Donkey Kong? Yes
Kirby? Absolutely
Metroid? No
Bomberman? They only seem to care about Bombergirl
Mega Man? I honestly have no clue but its probably not a good considering capcom treats him like shit

>>717058605
Meant for >>717048759

>>717034915 (OP)
>Twitter post

>>717041582
>graaa graaa boooo waaah
keep seething

>>717057978
>only like 2 Sonic fan channels on japanese youtube
Share them with the class.

>>717057978
cool
2chan is the real image board and nips are on NicoNico

>>717047137
Except for Mario, who never speaks except for catchphrases.

He's Link except with Italian rather than Taking A Shit

>>717034915 (OP)
What value does this retarded as response have?
>Japan doesn't like Sonic
So? Sonic was made in Japan, and there are still people in Japan that like Sonic
What's so amusing about it? Are you easily amused? Hopefully you're not working at any important studio now. I hope Sega fired you.
I'm so tired of these fucking retards obsessed with how much Japan does or doesn't like. The point is that it was made in Japan, it's automatically Japanese culture.
As far as how big a deal it is, what's popular in North America, Europe, and China is way more important than Japan's tiny ass gaming market.

>>717058850
This is the only one that I know
https://www.youtube.com/@katie_sonicch/featured

This wouldn't have happened if they had brought over Sonic Underground.

>>717034915 (OP)
>DEI Walker
Why is he called that

>>717051784
Sonic (and Tails) are vtubers

>>717036408
that's a standard brash youth shonen protagonist. they don't like him because he's a mascot that isn't cute

>>717059189
I don't watch the Tailstubes, and they don't really dub them in Japanese consistently anymore

He's a very American coded character. Arrogant, boisterous, confident. Everything japs aren't.

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic isn't popular anywhere. It's just very autistic loud fans

>>717057978
>incredibly niche
>replying to a post with a giant billboard of sonic

not even COD is popular in Japan.
Only Dragon Quest and that's it.

>>717034915 (OP)
Sonic is just incredibly fucking lame if you're not
A. Furry degenerate faggot
B. Autistic or otherwise uncool/socially isolated

Normal people like Mario when they're kids, and then grow out of it to some degree. The weird kids like Sonic because they think he's what "cool" is, and then grow up and still like him because they don't outgrow their autism.

>>717039829
Nigga I think you just confused うん with ううん

>>717043670
Yes. He's one of my favorites and I've loved all the fan art the card game has encouraged.

>>717034915 (OP)
It's not a creepily designed sexualized underaged female characters so the yellows don't like him.
Its a very pedophilic society.

>>717059025
Thanks

>>717044304
My neighbor is a Sonic tier autist about Mickey Mouse. She has rooms dedicated to him, she goes to Disney every year, and she is VERY specific about which design she likes of his just like how Sonic autists will fight over whether his arms are blue or not.

>>717040212
>It's the personality, it's not popular in Japan, he's the closest to (protagonists of the biggest manga of the 80s with popularity to this day, one of the biggest manga of the 2000s, and THE biggest manga made so far)
this thread feels really stupid
the actual reason is the megadrive flopped there. simple as. A lot of the success of Sonic here nowadays is because there's a core base established of "this is related to those good games from the early 90s", and no one played those over there. simple as

>>717060135
>My neighbor is a Sonic tier autist about Mickey Mouse. She has rooms dedicated to him, she goes to Disney every year, and she is VERY specific about which design she likes
Must be a boomer or millennial. Never saw zoomers like Mickey

>>717059776
>and then grow out of it to some degree

>>717046247
Yes
>that animation by Hammytoy

>>717034915 (OP)
because sonic is lame as shit
>>717035954
spbp

>>717054207
I never understood the absurd jingoism of old school American Sonic fans lying about shit like this
Especially when it goes against their own interests. Sonic when made by Americans is shit- you need Sonic to be made by Japanese appealing to Americans. It's the specific culture mix that makes it work

>>717054665
>(Which is why their identities have never been made public)
I wish I could trust you're just joking but these threads attract such schizos that there's decent odds you legitimately think this

>>717058850
AketamaGames https://www.youtube.com/@AketamaGames
Sonic Research Center -Katie - https://www.youtube.com/@katie_sonicch

>>717056942
>not agreeing with each other on anything due to all the different versions
But enough about the:
Final Fantasy Fanbase
Pokemon Fanbase
Assassin's Creed Fanbase
Mass Effect Fanbase
Halo Fanbase
Castlevania Fanbase
Megaman Fanbase
Fire Emblem Fanbase
Shin Megami Tensei Fanbase

>>717057765
>>Is Mega Man popular in Japan?
>yes

>>717034915 (OP)
>It's difficult
>It's an old game, so it's hard to get into
>It seems like it has a high barrier to entry (I have this mysterious feeling that if I get involved carelessly, something bad might happen. I get the impression that both fans and developers are very particular about it).
>It's simply a big name, but I'm not familiar with it, so it's hard to approach (it's famous, yet unknown, and the lack of information creates a mysterious gap. I wonder if there's a name for it).
According to some japanese guy

>>717060321
Gen X. She loves the Mickey from the 80s and gets mad/creeped out at white faced Mickey apposed to skin color faced Mickey

>>717059776
>Normal people like Mario when they're kids, and then grow out of it to some degree.

>>717035954
this

>>717039331
shit that never happened

>>717060824
Thanks!

>>717046678
After the Dreamcast died and they were trying to figure out how to move forward as a 3rd party dev

>>717034915 (OP)
It's because SNES mogged the Mega Drive in Japan and that's console with Sonic's best games on it

I was always under the impression that Sonic was a B-list series over there. They don't exactly HATE him, but he's not the house hold name he seems to be in pretty much every other region of the world. IIRC it's because in Japan SEGA was more famous for it's arcade games than it's console games, and as a console centric series it just never took root in the cultural zeitgeist when SEGA was at it's peak. Despite what random /v/ annons will tell you Sonic has plenty of dedicated fans in Nipon, just not nearly as many as us.

>>717059408
The west adores Sonic.

>>717048759
>Is Mega Man popular in Japan?
.

>>717059261
Yes, but those protagonists are usually sold as underdogs.

Sonic is anything but an underdog. He was born with powers that make him better than everyone else.

>>717063037
nigger he's a b-lister in the west lmao

I believe that the Chao gardens could save Sonic in Japan if it went all out. The Adventure games were the closest to successes in Japan.

>>717063241
Sonic is a 7 billion dollar franchise, that's not B-List

>>717063243
>The Adventure games were the closest to successes in Japan
Figures, Adventure 2 felt like a shounen anime.

>>717047215
I don't see them as a mistake, that's just an IP branching out. But to list
>Sonic from the games
>Sonic from the Paramount movies
>Sonic from the OVA
>Sonic from AoStH
>Sonic from SatAM
>Sonic from Pre-Reboot Archie
>Sonic from Post Reboot Archie
>Sonic from Sonic Boom
>Sonic from Sonic X
>Manga Sonic (who is named Nikki)
>Sonic from Sonic Prime
>Sonic from IDW (which is close to game Sonic)

>>717063195
How come they don't make Mega Man games anymore then? Should be free money. And is there any Mega Man game that's sold over 5 million copies?

>>717063405
Because Capcom is retarded and still probably butt mad and Inafune.

>>717063346
Sonic has never felt like shounen, it's always been firmly kodomo

>>717063482
I have no idea what that word means so I disagree with you.

>>717058605
>I honestly have no clue but its probably not a good considering capcom treats him like shit
He's still loved there, and the sub series Battle Network was a fucking banger for Japanese kids of the 00s. Capcom licensed a lot of toys for BN, some of which even interacted with the games themselves, like the Beast Gate for BN6.

>>717063510
One of Japan's five target demographics for anime/manga

Kodomo means it's written for young children
Shonen means it's written for teenage boys
Shojo means it's written for teenage girls
Seinen means it's written for adult men
Josei means it's written for adult women

These are simply labels to indicate who the target audience is and nothing more, although anime/manga fans often mistake them for genres.

>>717063037
Also helps that Sonic is like, Sega's only kid friendly IP to break the mold here in the West. Like the biggest Sega IPs are Yakuza, Sonic and SMT/Persona, and only one of these has E rated games. Puyo still gets around, but characters like NiGHTS and Billy Hatcher are sadly dead.

>>717063235
>He was born with powers that make him better than everyone else.
that's every shonen protag in the big 3 lol

Sonic is like the only mainstream non-Nintendo kid's series. The game industry at large doesn't make games specifically for kids anymore.

>>717063653
Ah, thanks.

>>717063865
Even most ""kids"" games today are aimed at grown adults who grew up with them and not actual kids.

>>717063857
Only Ichigo. Luffy wasn't born with powers, and Naruto is a setting where everyone has powers, they just have to train to unlock them.

>>717058127
The only example I can think of is that freaking Pickle and Peanut show, everyone in the west hated it for being another fanboy & chum chum/sanjay & craig shit type cartoon but the east really liked it at the time.

>>717064310
That's pretty weird. I never thought they'd enjoy something like that.

>>717063798
Sega makes maimai, chunithm, and ongeki which were huge in japan and kid friendly. (maimai still is)

>>717064009
luffy was born with haki and is a nepobaby.
naruto was born with super chakra and had a fox spirit in him like two days after he was born.

Japan doesn’t care about Metroid, Star Fox or Punch-Out either, it’s not that they hate Sonic as people try to convince you, it’s just harder to market the series in its home country when it has too much western appeal and elements for the East to get in invested to when they already have a shitload of more bigger, popular options that sell better like Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter.

There’s definitely Japanese fans that love Sonic but they’re very rare and small compared to America & Europe, I shit you not, even Zelda wasn’t popular in Japan until the BOTW/TOTK timeline, it’s as if they’re just into open-world stuff hence why Frontiers was successful over there.

>>717064751
They have shitty tastes in games sometimes. Starfield was big in Japan

>>717064703
Agreed, but that's why I said the West. Be it because lack of marketing or Sega's IPs not catching on in a time when gaming was moving to browns and shooters, Sonic is the only kid friendly IP they got here. Suck because I like Billy, flaws and all.
At least they seem to be trying to make Monkey Ball big, but that's been a rocky road.

>>717034915 (OP)
Well first you should ask why westerners care about Sonic, and the biggest factor is Sonic being the mascot of the Genesis. Nobody in Japan gives a shit about the Mega Drive, it completely bombed and was outsold by the PC Engine which itself was a distant 2nd place to the Super Famicom. Sega is better remembered for their arcade games and the Saturn than the Mega Drive in Japan.

>>717039331
Yuji Naka is a prick

>>717038506
This is a great read lol.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/7/15222852/peter-moore-sega-yuji-naka/

>>717064310
>BURP... IM PICKLE PEANUT!

>>717047149
My guess is that Sonic's trickster archetype has a long history of popularity in american media, back to bugs bunny, Tom and Jerry, Road Runner, etc. They were always going to have more affinity for him that the ultra uniform and conservative Japanese.

>>717054121
Tails is a pedo predator.

>>717041463
Like Peter Griffin or Homer Simpson are cartoon dads not to be emulated. These characters are the exact opposite of what japanese like. Crude, brash idiots meant to be entertaining but not immatated if only to be expressed in moment of idiocy.

As for Goku and Naruto being social idiots, theyre still smart in terms of combat and have clear goals to reach. Making it a journey.

Sonic doesnt have much of an interpersonal goal. He just is cool all the time. You may even call him a mary sue, but that isnt why americans love him. Its because hes closer to mickey mouse or bugs bunny. A cartoon character that doesnt grow, only to be entertaining.

>>717065208
He's also currently in prison.
His sphincter is probably being enlarged by "Dai Chin Chin Tanaka" in this very moment.

>>717043238
Pokemon isnt furry.
Also its shinto. Spirit creatures you make friends with. Like digimon, monster rancher, yokai watch, shaman king or whatever collect a thon.

>>717040572
>the last one which had a whole Tokyo sequence
You mean the one which was mostly in a cringe faux-japanese "kawaii" chao theme cafe clearly thought up by an insufferable racist cunt who has never been to japan?

yeah no fucking wonder japan hated that movie

>>717035954
Only SA2, outside of that, it's bad lol.

>>717043670
Yes! Because Mickey and Sonic look exactly 100% like Animals.

>>717061040
>difficult
I thought Nips were supposed to be the pro gamers.

>>717034915 (OP)
furries want to have sex with him, furries is mainly a white man disease

>>717037262
>H-he's fast-

>>717034915 (OP)
I always thought Sonic was American. Its character design doesn't feel Japanese at all.

Well it would help if sonic didn’t have mostly bad games

>>717048759
didn't bomberman get an anime?

>>717073024
So? Sonic had 2 anime.
>>717071984
The ears really don't give it away?

>>717046916
this is the gotcha