>just get a mid range gaming PC

Just take a bit out of your 401k

>Gaming desktop
>Isn't an X3D chip

Yeah?

>not spending money on your gay man hobbies.
>not realizing the cost of assembly is built into that too.
If you like things then spend money on them. I like to sleep so I bought an almost $2000 bed frame for my $1,500 mattress

>>717036134
Retard

>>717035716 (OP)
mid range is 3060 lol

>>717035848
>4070ti Super
>R9 7800X3D
Life is good :D

>>717035848
>X3D
I skipped out on this because it was $200 more for like 4% performance.

>buying prebuilt pcs
do americans really

>>717036470
LMAO yeah. Extra money went to a GPU.

>>717036320
>mid range is 3060 lol
a 3060 is for browsing facebook and ebay . not for gaming

>>717036470
only get an x3d if you have a 80 or 90 series

>>717036765
>>717036320
Mid range is at LEAST 3060ti for 1080p gaming.
That said you know half this board is full of minorities who are still on 1060s so a 3060 would be a massive upgrade for them

5070 is definitely the definitive mid-range card. Anything less is budget-tier.

>>717036683
>Userbenchmark

>>717036897
>Mid range is at LEAST 3060ti for 1080p gaming.
don't be stupid. a 3060 is low end as fuck.

>>717035716 (OP)
If you either can't afford this or aren't willing to waste money you can't afford on playing videogames then you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on them at all.

>>717035716 (OP)
Do you not have a job? As an adult you should easily be able to save up that much in 3 - 4 months or if you aren't a retard with money then use credit or payment plan but pay it off very early ASAP so you don't get raped on interest.
Yes PC gaming is a luxury, you can absolutely be too poor to play video games.

>>717035716 (OP)
just get a PS5 Pro

>bought the equivalent mid range PC in 2020 for 1100

kill all bitcoin miners, chinks, white trash and whoever enabled these companies to raise the prices this much

Is a 6070 coming out soon? I'll be getting 2k for my holiday bonus this year, should I buy something like that or wait?

>>717036897
Regular 3060 is better than ti and half the cards newer than it as it has 12GB. Still the best option unless something changes with AI breaking the monopoly.

Case is something that should last basically forever.
Power supply can last 10+ years.
Most of the rest will still last potentially forever since games have stagnated completely. Just get a decent size SSD and have an external HD for everything not programs.
You should have something you are specifically buying it for, like Elden Ring. Next worthwhile game would be Skyrim 2 but odds are very high that is going to be shit anyway.

>>717036897
>>717036765
the literal only games ive ever expressed an interest in that i cant play on my 3060 are FFXVI and MH Wilds lol. for most everything at 1080p, with mid settings, i'm usually running games at an fps above my monitor's refresh rate of 144hz.

>>717037651
for what its worth its the 12gb model and slightly OCd but like, very slightly, like anyone could OC any card this much with no effort. No silicon lottery nonsense or fiddling with msi afterburner for hours. it took 10 mins.

>>717037651
Did you try turning off the garbage blurs? People bitched about Stranger of Paradise while I played it on a fucking 1050TI no problem.

>>717037531
No 6 series for another year or two

>>717035716 (OP)
even though they suck consoles will keep winning until this shit ends
it's also clear retrogaming is on the rise and old stuff is already getting expensive

>>717038119
just emulate the old stuff on your consol- oh wait

>>717036957
Yes anon, that is Userbenchmark. You're doing so well!

>>717038361
jailbreaking current gen is always a bitch but you can do that on older consoles or portable shitboxes like the 'itch and the 'eck

I know your unemployed ass has the time to build it yourself so my advice is DO NOT buy a prebuilt. You save money, gain valuable knowledge on how to maintain it in the future and it might actually be FUN

Divide this over 5 years and it's not that bad.

>>717038637
Switch is pretty bad at emulating desu. Dreamcast/PSP is the upper performance limit and the emulators are janky garbage

>>717036470
x3d is for emulation chads otherwise just get some cheapo shit

>>717036765
But I'm still using 3060ti and it's fine? I'm still gaming in 1080 I guess.

>>717038002
ive never used DLSS/frame gen before. Sometimes I have some regular ass AA settings on but you know those are actually costly MSAA or SMAA or whatever. I've not yet played one of the forced-TAA games. I mean, if you didn't notice the two new games I listed wanting to play but being unable to are both the newest release in a long running series that was once not slop.

>>717035716 (OP)
I don't understand why consolefats look at buying a gaming PC in the same lense as buying a console.

Do you not realize that a PC isn't just a gaming device? That you will also use it for PC related things like work/school, social media, entertainment, browsing the web, emails and communication, content creation, among several other uses? The average PC that consumers buy usually costs about $800ish, so just add another $500 for the GPU, which is how much a console costs, and you've got yourself a good gaming PC.

>>717035716 (OP)
>midrange

that's a goddamn terminator

>>717038986
This is the zoomer generation who did all that on a phone.

>>717037651
>Mid settings
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE EVEN THOUGH THE DIFFERENCE IS MINIMAL AND CONSOLES BASICALLY HAVE GAMES LOOK LIKE THIS ANYWAYS AAAAAAAAAAH SAVE ME CONSOLEMAN

>>717038797
it's pretty bad since you're not maxing stuff but playing on mid and then low settings, a console is cheaper and holds the value better if you want to sell it

>>717038986
Most normalfags don't use or need a PC for anything anymore though. I get what you're saying and I do agree but for most people these days it really isn't a great argument. All the social media they use is on their phones, they prefer to browse the web on their phones, they do all their communications on their phone, the vast majority of people do not create any content and if they do guess what... on their phone. If they need a computer for school they'll get their parents to buy them a macbook or something. If they need a computer for work their job will provide some shitty refurbished laptop.

>>717038986
Zoomers don't even know how to use a PC, they grew up on tablets or phones. Even pirating is becoming scarce because the knowledge isn't being passed down. Give it another generation and piracy will be gone.

>>717038361
works on xbox

>>717039350
can't believe steve jobs solved the piracy problem...

i was considering upgrading my pc, i have a 1660, because it doesnt met the new battlefields requirements, but the game doesnt look good and i only play old games, so i think that i can hold it for 1 more year

>>717035716 (OP)
Mid range that a 4K 120fps machine native if you know how to care for your os.

>>717039479
Still never understood how mac/iphone even became popular, limits everything and targeted towards nothing but normies. But I guess there's more retarded people in the world.

>>717035716 (OP)
>mid range

either get a good one for about 4k or else fuck off being a poor

>>717039219
it was doing high when i build it 5 years ago too btw.

>>717038862
I didn't think emulators benefit from the extra cache. They were usually just about raw clock speed and supporting every instruction set.

>>717038986
an office/browsing pc costs 400eur, add to that a console for 500 eur and its still cheaper than buying a gaming pc.

>>717039350
you couldnt be more wrong. every zoomer has a school laptop.

>>717039828
/v/ is a poor board.

>>717039843
Buying a 400€ PC is retarded. At that point, you're better off with a tablet.

>>717039350
>noooo, these young 'uns don't know even how to steal anymore!
Tyrone, pls.

>>717039908
a chromebook is not a laptop

>>717035716 (OP)
>>717036683
>RTX x080-x090 family GPUs: $2000+ (you still need the rest of a computer)
>Prebuilt PC with RTX 4070 $1,500 plus tariff tip
>Prebuilt PC with RTX 4060/5060 8GB $1,100 (you wish I was making this up)
>OEM Rog Ally X handheld with Xbox sticker $1000 (cannot play backwards compatible games because it's not an Xbox)
>Mid tier AMD and NVIDIA GPU $800
>PS5 Pro $700
>OEM Rog Ally handheld with Xbox sticker $700 lower end (cannot play backwards compatible games because it's not an Xbox)
>Steam Deck White OLED $680
>Steam Deck OLED $650
>16GB VRAM GPU (you still need the rest of a PC) $450 over MSRP tip
>Switch 2 $450
>PS5 with Disc Drive $450
>PS5 No Disc Drive $400
>CPU 8 cores AMD budget: $300 (without motherboard)
>Buyer's remorse for 8GB GPU owners: Priceless
It's PC gaming time.

>>717039949
>buying a thousand buck car is retarded. At that point, you're better off with a water scooter

>>717039914
Anon, a 4090/5090 will last you about 6 years easily if you don't aim for above 1080p at max settings in 6 years time

You break 4k over 6 years and it's down tp about 12 dollars a week

How fucking poor are you faggots

>>717039991
You think the average black kid knows how to pirate? kek

>>717040027
It literally is, assuming it's not a desktop or all-in-one.

>>717040136
I'm not buying any graphic card above $250. Die.

>>717040179
>this is your brain on chrome os

>>717040159
I consider brazilians black, yes.

>>717039843
you forgot your $80 yearly online subscription, lil bro

>>717040136
I have a 6700 XT and will be using it for 10 years minimum.
No one can convince me otherwise.
It's very easy to do because most games that require more than what my 6700 XT can do are literal dogshit 99.87% of the time.
Imagine being an NPC and needing more.

>>717035716 (OP)
I just bought a 2700 $ PC with 9800X3D and 5070Ti. In Poland. As a NEET. If you can't afford that in "first world" I don't know what to say.

>>717035716 (OP)
shit's expensive, we know. thank your orange in chief for his tarrifs.

>>717035716 (OP)
Good thing most good games don't require expensive hardware.

>>717039949
its not retarded. a 400eur pc is basically the size of a tablet. every office drone has one of pic related. it does all that email, browsing, social media, work, school stuff and even older games. if you do nothing but spend your day on 4chan its all you ll ever need.

>>717040263
Only if you care about online modern shlop

forget specs, why is windows 11 such a piece of shit

>>717040136
>what do you mean you can't afford a loan? you want to play that path traced cyberpunk or not?

>>717038986
>The average PC that consumers buy usually costs about $800ish, so just add another $500 for the GPU
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA THIS STUPID DENSE MOTHERFUCKER HAHAHAHAHA. TOUCH GRASS. There are selling computers for $999 without graphic cards at retailers. You're talking about the general consumer, right? I've seen them left and right. You have **ZERO** idea how fucked the PC gaming market is and it is adorable seeing you talk about a world that doesn't exist anymore. Little retard bro, ever since 2017 the PC gaming market has been destroyed.

>>717040237
Cry as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact that they are (weak) laptops.

>>717039840

>>717040398
It got better recently.

>>717035716 (OP)
>5070 with a R7-7700 and 32 of Ram
>mid
And that's without entering into the mobo, the tower, leds and water cooling

>>717040136
>Anon, a 4090/5090 will last you about 6 years easily if you don't aim for above 1080p at max settings in 6 years time
>You break 4k over 6 years and it's down tp about 12 dollars a week

>>717040492
the entire point is that a chromebook laptop is not a PC you fucking retard which is the entire theme of the thread, there is an entire generation of kids who are technologically illiterate BECAUSE they grew up only with phone and chromebook architecture so when it comes to using a real Windows based PC they literally have no idea how to use the machine

>>717040576
>water cooled 7700

>>717040608

9070XT or 5070Ti should last you 6 years easily especially with upscalers getting better and better. DLSS4 is better than native but with +30% perf.

>>717040648
>I-it's not a PC!

>prebuilt poorcucks

Disgusting.

>>717040136
If you bought a XX90 for anything but AI you are legitimally retarded

>>717040794
yes absolutely yes, if you say
>"I have 5 years PC experience"
and then its entirely on a fucking Jewgle Chromium based web app fucking CHROMEBOOK you're going to sound like a drooling retard

>>717035716 (OP)
That's not mid-range at all.
Anything > 1000 eurobux = high end.

>>717035716 (OP)
You cant afford that? I'm southeast asian, with southeast asian salary that is like $200 per month working as a literal sales, and I can afford one peecee with 4080 and laptop with 6800

>people bitching because I'm not a poor

I'm sorry for your life but not all of us are poors
I pirate my games generally

>>717036590
Prebuilts are okay if you get them at a computer store and don't want to go through the effort of building a PC. Maybe in 2005 they were shit, in 2025 they're mostly ok

>>717040924
Take your meds and stop writing nonesense.

>>717040317
the perfect nas

>>717040992
Pirating games stopped being worth it since Steam sales became a thing. I have a backlog of like 50 games bought for almost nothing.

AAA slop on release is never worth it. You pay to beta test.

>>717040159
piracy isnt just about getting free shit you retard. piracy is the main driving force behind media preservation. without piracy, you can say goodbye to every favorite childhood movie, album, video game, and anything else digital, meaning basically everything these days. piracy dying means everything dying with it.

>>717041272
Buying on steam is supporting anti-gaming
You either pirate or else if you must have a legit copy for online, use something like a grey market site so they get no moeny

>>717035816
idk what that is

>>717040992
You're the one bitching at poors, poor

>>717041379
Fuck off, Tim

>>717040037
>buckbreaks /v/

>>717041147
>"Ah yes Candy Crush my favorite PC game because it runs on my Chromebook"
You're literally saying this nigger.

>>717041383
Burgeristan retirement-scam, I believe. If you're under 50, it's not like you will ever see that money anyway.

>>717041601
I'm saying none of that, you're just having another schizoid episode and arguing with voices inside your head instead of staying on topic.

>>717037651
your use case doesn't change that a 3060 is a bottom of the range , 3 generation old GPU. It was never midrange when it released. A 3090 is midrange. a 3060 is junk.

>>717041419
Get over being a poor

>>717041523
I do not support chinese owned slop

>>717040287
EU is kind of shitty and the tax rates are sky high in my country but at least when shit goes south I'm not smoking crack in a dark alley being homeless lmao. US is really the third world country for the less unfortunate.

>>717040287
I'm getting neetbux but having to maintain a car + insurance in burgerland to go anywhere. It eats up all my neetbux.

Otherwise i'd be able to save up 500 a month to a new PC.

>>717041718
You are you just lack reading comprehension. You said Zoomers have laptops which are Chromebooks and Chromebooks are PC's therefore you're saying Android Mobile Games are PC games because they run on Chromebook which you consider to be PC's.

you dont need to run games on 1440p ultra. dont fall for hardware unboxed, stay at 1080p medium to high settings. this solves basically all your money problems

>>717041943
>playing games at ultra low settings will make you rich
ha ha

>>717040502
got an updated chart for the 9950x3d?

>>717041943
dont need nothing besides high/ultra running on a 1080p monitor @ 144hz

simple as

>>717041857
>he pays the scam insurance

>>717036765
You don't need a discrete GPU at all for that, dumbass.

is there a downside to going for a 9800x3d/9950x3d if you can get them below MSRP? Is there some sort of hidden issue people don't talk about? Are Intel chips fixed at all, are they even comparable?

>>717042979
Intel CPUs are still completely dogshit. Their GPU line is cool though. The downside about buying those AMD CPUs is that they're probably gonna release something better within a year or two because the whole 3D V-cache thing is new so theyre still working on getting everything working alongside it. thats about it.

>>717042979
There's no downside to getting them below MSRP, but they run pretty hot since they draw a lot of power, so get an AIO or a premium aircooler. Something like a Phantom Spirit with Noctua Fans if you want to go air cooler. To give you an example: my 5600x aircooled by a Peerless Assassin 120, with a case that has 5 fans, 3 intake, 2 outtake, Phanteks P500a mesh case, with good proper airflow, averages at around 38-40c on idle.

A 9800x3d would need an AIO to reach similar numbers in a case of a similar construction and more fans than that.
Modern Intel CPU's are dogshit, don't even think about them anymore.

>>717035716 (OP)
thats not mid range

>>717043330
this, it's barely entry-level

>>717043152
>>717043317
I read there was an issue with core parking?

8GB VRAM GPU: 300 dollars
16GB VRAM GPU: 400 dollars (AMD poo, bad raytracing and bad FSR AI upscaling tech)
16GB VRAM RTX GPU: 500 dollars
16GB VRAM middle tier GPU: 800 dollars
24GB+ VRAM high tier GPU: 2000 dollars
Switch 2 or PS5 with disc drive: 450 dollars

PC master race gaming time

>>717043562
that was a motherboard issue that is mostly fixed and if it isnt on your most recent bios for some reason you can fix it yourself in CMD.

>>717043562
Yellow press tier, since most games can't do proper multi threading and the CPU's are made to auto overclock themselves it is not an issue. And it shouldn't happen on a 9800x3d anyway, if it does, something is not right, but you can force the cores to go at 100% via software if you wish it.

>>717043498
if you look at the majority of games none of them are saying recommended rtx 5070 anon lets be honest here you are at least 2 generations ahead most games right now are stuck on 2000-3000 series because of games are optimised for consoles and they are around the 2000RTX range in power with PC versions of games being a upgraded version so max its a 3000 series atm for this generation of games so no its not entry level lmfao

>>717035716 (OP)
my 650 dollars core i5 with rtx 4060 prebuilt works just fine, I'm calling skill issue

used to be you could buy a top end pc and mine crypto and make it all back in a year mining when you go to sleep and so on

>>717043796
Yeah, and a house that costs a million today, in 1960 cost $100 000. Times change.

>>717041857
hey retard, you know that car insurance is not a requirement right?

>>717043942
It is if he lives in a culturally enriched neighbourhood. They love breaking car windows.

>>717043725
Mafia Old Country literally says any 8GB VRAM is stuck to minimum specs for settings. lmao. You are so full of shit. /v/ is shit mad that FF7 Rebirth and the new Doom require Raytracing GPUs. "Forced Raytracing". And NVIDIA is dropping support for GTX 1000 Pascal family FYI and so is Windows 10 support dying out. More to the point, your assessment of the PC market is unusually bizzare given that Monster Hunter Wilds is currently sitting at OVERWHELMING NEGATIVE review score on Steam and all the reviews are performance related. :) PC gaming is so fucked :) And NVIDIA relishes this. I went back to consoles than deal with the devil that is NVIDIA monopoly and the radioactive waste that is AMD GPUs.

>>717042826
>you use a 3060 for gaming
ha ha ha ha ha

>>717035716 (OP)
>1700 every 10 years
Anon your subscription to PS+ and 2 consoles is the same price. Combine the flexibility of PC and cheaper games PC blows consoles out of the water

>>717043942
only 2 states don't requite car insurance

>>717035716 (OP)
That machine is faster than the fastest console on the market (the PS5 pro), and it's a 700 dollars machine.

>>717043998
>not defending yourself from joggers

>>717044101
You can game on an APU too, depends on what games you want to play. If you want to play Infinity Engine games and Diablo 2, you can easily do that.

>>717044181
thats how you end up going to prison and giving them free money

>>717044181
Most people can't really afford to watch their car 24/7 like a hawk. It usually happens in the dead of night when some wandering methhead gets upset at his own reflection in a car window.

>>717043942
It is in basically every state.
T. My dad didn't have it and got sent to jail for 3 days for it lol. Wanted to teach him a lesson

>>717044396
>the lesson
>pay for the scam goy tax

is it even worth it at this point to upgrade a CPU using am4 socket along my aging 2070s?

I enjoy aaa slop and want to run certain upcoming shooter at max with at least 144 frames

>>717044565
Yes, don't trigger the jews.

>>717044569
Depends how much your willing to spend and what you want to play

>>717044565
>the lesson
>become a bikechad

>>717035716 (OP)
I want to build a PC /v/ what are some must-haves? What are some scams? Should I splurge on the graphics card or the CPU?

>>717044651
>good goy

>>717044569
>I enjoy aaa slop and want to run certain upcoming shooter at max with at least 144 frames
100% required just buying an entirely new system

>>717044094
>8gb vram
cards below the 5000 series have more than 8gb of vram dumb fuck
>ff7 rebirth
runs on a gtx1660
>doom
no one cares game is shit Its why it flopped
>wilds
game was badly optimised, doesn't mean all of a sudden you need to upgrade for one shitty game, in fact all these games you mention are dog shit and not a good reason to upgrade
>went back to console
good stay there retard

>>717044569
IDK little bro, what budget? And the PS5 is roughly in the same ballpark as the RTX 2070 with a lot more VRAM. Unless your GPU is artifacting you can survive off it this generation. Your RAM is pretty bad IMO, but what does this say your graphic card only has 4GB VRAM? That's not right, it's an 8GB card from the mid 2010s. Your build honestly doesn't look that bad for an old PC that's comparable to the Playstation 5. Just get more RAM and call it a day? What exactly is bottlenecking your computer? And if you're deadset on a new CPU, don't go below 8 cores. There are games coming out/already that demand 8 cores. Just be prepared to pay more than normal because PC parts like CPU and GPUs are extremely overpriced.

>>717044794
more like bikefag

>>717044094
>Disingenuous faggot
>Console post
Makes sense to me. Never engage in intellectual conversation with a consolefags who has no intention of being intellectually honest (read 98% of them)

>>717035716 (OP)
>sponsored by mastercard / visa.
you can't hide your bullshit from me.

>>717044210
>You can game on an APU too,
you can, but why would you want to?

>>717041805
Don't dish it if you can't take it.

>>717044569
What is your budget and screen resolution? Unless you have no money to spend, a full AM5 refresh is probably your best bet at this point.

>>717045226
That would depend on how much of a poorfag someone is. There's always options when it comes to gaming, most people are just too proud to pick the ones that fit their financial situation. If you live on neetbux and want to have a PC that can run Star Citizen without chugging while going on 4k VR adventures using Oculus Rift, I'm sorry, but that ain't happening even if you start selling your organs.

>>717041931
Please point out where I said that, schizo-kun :^)

Hint: You can't

>>717035716 (OP)
>$1700
>32GB ram
Have fun when your web browser of choice completely eats 80% of your ram. Pre builds are such a scam

>>717045330
>amd
no thanks

>>717035716 (OP)
>buying a prebuilt
Deserved to get ripped off for being such a retard

>>717045404
What sort of a browser consumes 20 gigs of ram? I have three open right now, 20-23 tab in each and I'm using 10 total for everything, including system processes.

>>717045404
Ram is dirt cheap AF they can easily upgrade to 64 GB for chump change if it becomes an issue down the line.

>>717039908
And literally none know how to use them
>21 year age gap between me and younger brother
>Visiting mom for the week and brother having problems with finding shit in his PC
>Explain it to him 20 times until he gets it
>His friends over later the week
>Have to explain to all of them how computers work
>Teach them how to pirate and emulate GBA/DS games on their school computers
Getting kids to Google simple solutions is like pulling teeth

>>717045412
Sure is better than going Intel at this junction. They might unfuck their product line at some point, but atm they're not a desireable option when it comes to CPUs. Some decent budget older chips tho.

>>717045636
I completely agree. Why doesn't the fucking pre-build come with it then? Prebuilds are for people so retarded opening up the computer is going to result in a broken comp

>>717044932
>>717044789
>>717045330
for whatever reason speccy is reporting 4gb it's an 8gb card.
budget would be 1300 - 1700 or so. I use a 1080 at 144hz but plan on also getting a monitor as well. Undecided on if I'm going 1440 or 4k I need to try out and see if it matters much to me. A high refresh rate is the most important to me, though.

I know my specs are somewhat similar to a base ps5 and theoretically should be able to get through this gen at least running games. But MHWilds and BF6 labs testing were rough. I'd also like to run GTA6 decently when that eventually comes to PC.

>>717035716 (OP)
Mine is half as good as that and I built it for about $400-500 kangaroo dollars

You can make 4070tiS 1440p gaming PC for like $1200 and it will last like 10 years. Just wait until black friday.

>>717046647
fag friday

>>717045861
Idk don't most prebuilts places allow you to customize them? like you send them the list of shit you want and they give you just that?

>>717035716 (OP)
My 7800x3d/7900xtx/32gb cost me 2k bux minus tip(it is easy to put computers into your “company” expenditures if you wark as b2b software dev). I thought muricans were supposed to have cheaper hardware?

>>717046994
>$2,000 PC is better than $450 Switch 2/PS5
congrats little bro

>>717046849
I havent had a pre-build in 20 something years I legitimately don't know

>>717046095
>That budget
>4k 144 hz
No. Stick with 1080p if you are married to 144hz

>>717046095
Wilds is an unoptimized port that can run like shit even on modern systems.

If you want to do 1440p@144hz, or something like 4k@60 or 120hz, then the majority of your budget should be going to a "mid-range" GPU with at least 16GB of VRAM. Unless you want to buy used RTX 4000 series cards, your options for new are basically the 5070ti or 9070xt because anything less isn't going to be good enough for 1440p 144hz new AAA slop and the next step up of a 5080 is basically your entire budget by itself. Assuming you can get a 5070ti or 9070XT for around $750 after tax, you could pair that with a 9800X3D for around $480ish after tax.

Pair with basically any X670 or X870 motherboard, 2 x 16GB DDR5 6000 CL30 RAM, a cheap case, any decent 700W+ PSU, and a decent chink CPU AIO like thermalright and you're looking at the upper end of that $1700 budget but it would be a quality gaming rig for high refresh 1440p or dipping your toes into 4k gaming.

Unfortunately, budget PC gaming, particularly GPUs, are a fucking disaster these days so most of the $300-400 cards are woefully inadequate unless you want to stick to 1080p.

>built my first PC on June
>R5 7600X
>RTX 4070 Super
>modest by /v/ standards but very happy with it
>plugged to my 10 year old LCD TV
>my monitor arrived today
>IPS, 1440p, 180Hz
>mfw

As a guy who has been dealing with a refurbished laptop for over 5 years, it feels like a whole new world for me, that and the screen is beautiful, I'll buy a second one in the near future.

>>717048015
>plugged to my 10 year old LCD TV
buy a real monitor. It is a bigger upgrade than everything else you listed

>>717048143
read the rest of the post you retard

>>717035716 (OP)
Just get a fucking thing that has stuffed 16GB RAM into it and be fine. Niggers.

>>717048331
>16GB RAM
literally sub poverty tier

>>717048143
That's what I did, and I was thinking on keeping the TV plugged, but I have so much space on my new monitor that I don't find it necessary. I want to buy a second one, but right now I'm dealing with a lack of space since I work from home and the other side of my L-shaped desk is being occupied by my work monitors.

>>717036683
These are the people telling you how to build your pc

>>717048427
yes, you can expect everyone to have 500$ spare. If not, you're a nigger.

>>717048485
>>717048324
I consneed I missed the "monitor arrived today". For some reason people really undervalue a good monitor by and large
>work monitors
Plug in work PCs in your home monitors and buy a switch so both PCs can be plugged in at once. I started doing that during the coof and it was a huge QOL improvement

>>717036683
Prices are fucked because dumb retards in this very thread buying hardware in mass they dont even have a use case for.

>>717048591
RAM isn't GRAM retard

>>717047253
It is

>>717048591
What's it going to matter, when the nigger steps in your house and steals said $500?

>just get a midrange linux machine

>>717048673
still it's the most important to run games at a bare minimum, nigger
>>717048718
thank god I'm not american, nigger

>>717048907
>still it's the most important to run games at a bare minimum, nigger
the point is when you say RAM and mean VRAM people will think you are talking about something else

upgrading to 32gb of system memory costs under one hundred dollars

>>717049152
Hence "poverty tier" being anything less

>>717035716 (OP)
>1,7k rig
don't forget to thank fat orange despot and leave a tip

>>717040502
man i wish the ps3/360 gen was easier to emulate

>>717035716 (OP)
do it for the mods lad, do it for the mods

>>717035716 (OP)
>$1700
What are you poor? I'm about to drop close to 2k on a new gaming rig

>>717050164
just buy them or play the pc ports

>>717048970
nigger

>>717047253
If you want to look at it like that, a PC survives through 2 gens, whereas a console is good for half a gen before its replaced by a "pro" version and has like 1% of the games PC does. So consoles are kind of a rip off right now. It's like asking "why buy a car when I can ride a bike"? The answer is obvious.

>>717035716 (OP)
You can get cheaper ones than that

>>717040502
>less than a 3 fps difference between a 9800x3d and a 9600x

NTA but they're point mostly remains, the extra cache makes a very minor difference ultimately.

>>717050514
bikes are built to last more then cars are these days

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwcyzP
Bros I'm about to pull the trigger on this. Anyone know about RAM cooling? I'm getting that AIO because it's really easy to do with it.

>>717035716 (OP)
I built the exact same computer with a far better motherboard for like 900 less.

>>717050937
I forgot to mention that was with the 7700x too. Not the regular 7700. Also get the 9000 cpus instead. 7000 is shit unless you get the x3d.

>>717037651
This is what I wish I had done. I wish I stayed with 1080p and increased refresh rate instead. I could easily be sitting at better FPS but I let the greed consume and now I can't go back.

>>717041783
You'll never be able to afford them any way Raji

>>717050754
Have fun transporting a week's worth of groceries on a bike. Sure it will get you to a McDonald's, but what if you want to live like an actual human being?

>>717038834
>Dreamcast/PSP is the upper performance limit
Just like the 3DS. Grim.

>>717051148
my groceries easily fit in a backpack and actual human beings are cancer

>>717050463
>be retarded
>call others niggers
many such cases

>>717036403
just spend rebuilding my whole pc.

got a r7 9800 X3D cpu and a 5070ti 16gb can play stellar blade in silky smooth 144fps

>>717035716 (OP)
I fucking hate njudea but also fuck amd for repeatedly dropping the ball every fucking time for the past decade or so.
>inb4 amd is better for linux
nobody cares about your tranny os

>>717050754
"like" not "exactly like"

>>717051313
go be a nigger somewhere else

>>717050378
>the gears pc ports

BUT WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET

>>717053525
Pentium MMX 233
64MB RAM
S3 Virge DX (primary video)
Voodoo 1 3Dfx (secondary 3D accelerator)
Sound blaster 16
400MB IDE hard drive
16x CD-ROM

>>717053740
nice comp richfag. Now give some advice for normal people

>>717035716 (OP)
You can build one for about 1200 or less with an RX 7800 XT, 32 gigs of RAM and a Ryzen 9 5950 X and run games perfectly fine in 1440[p with >60 FPS
The problem if you're like the rest of the retards out there, you've been brainwashed like a sheep that you must have nShitia because the funny man on YouTube said so, or some fat diabetic neet here said so.
The build I listed is the build I have and it runs fucking great.

>5700
>mid range

>>717054978
Ehhh you know what I meant
>5070

>>717047253
it also lasts 10 years+ im still using a gtx 1070 and im struggling to find a reason to upgrade

>>717054580
90% of people who have problems with games crashing or not working right are running AMD hardware. This is historical fact.