Thread 717036618

What's with the sudden backlash against HD2D games? It's a cool and visually interesting way to stylize a game, but somehow a lot of people became mindbroken over it.

>>717036618 (OP)
they all look the same and use the same shitty bloom/vignetting/aesthetic

>>717036618 (OP)
I always thought it looked bad. I'm being honest not just trying to shit post. I am simply not fond of all the unity effects they use.

Too many effects and bloom to hide the fact it is lacking in animation quality

>>717036618 (OP)
those games always looked like shit

>>717036618 (OP)
The blooms a bit much, but otherwise they're gorgeous.

>>717036618 (OP)
>sudden
It's been 7 years.

>>717036618 (OP)
When you oversaturate the market with something becomes tiresome.

>>717036618 (OP)
It's largely associated with titles that start as Nintendo exclusives, so shitposting is in full force against them, despite being multiplats.

>>717036618 (OP)
>sudden
I like it, but people have been throwing tantrums about it since octopath released.

>>717036618 (OP)
I've been shitting on it since day 1 because it looks awful. And they try to hide the fact that it looks awful but coating it in several layers of post processing filters and over-use of lighting effects.

>>717036618 (OP)
God I love Tressa

>>717036618 (OP)
Even though they are all marketed as "HD2D" they don't even look visually similar. Some of them have way more bloom than others. Some of them go through a lot to make the environments look like pixels and others are just flat out sprite characters in a generic 3D world. When people just lump them all together as "HD2D looks good" or "HD2D looks bad" it shows me that they have no ability to actually interpret aesthetics to begin with and simply follow the marketing.

>>717036618 (OP)
hd2d games don't look very good compared to older titles. the effects are mostly just annoying, they aren't used judiciously

>>717036618 (OP)
I always thought it looked like shit. Why do these games need to look like fucking Instagram filters?

No thanks.

>>717036618 (OP)
>sudden
We have hated Octoshart from the first second

id rather have good pixel art not bad 3d effects

>>717038013
Based Tressabro

>>717037075
Yeah, it's like they're trying to bury stiff animations under a mountain of lens flare and fog effects. Every cutscene looks like a J.J. Abrams fever dream. Back in the day, good spritework animated well didn’t need all this fake cinematic dressing. Now it's just sparkle vomit to distract from barebones movement and lifeless expressions.

I think that some HD@D games look pretty good, it's just the Octopath devs' games that I think look atrocious. I gave it a pass for their first few games since they pioneered the style, but there's no reason their games should still look the same after the Dragon Quest 3 and Star Ocean 2 remakes. It doesn't even make sense from a nostalgic point of view in the case of Elliot. Classic ARPGs didn't look like Final Fantasy IV. They looked like Secret of Mana and Terranigma. Ellliot's art style is objectively worse than the 30-year-old games it's emulating.

>>717036618 (OP)
>HD2D "improves" pixel art in the laziest way possible
>most of the gameplay is a lazy rehash of old genres
It's a perfect warning sign of overproduced but undercooked slop.

>>717036618 (OP)
There's no issue with the general idea of sprites in a 3D environment, lots of early 3D games did this and it's a classic artstyle. There was a lot of novelty around Octopath 1 when it was first revealed because the style had gone out of favor for a long time, and now that we've had a lot of games in this style people are noticing some of the flaws in the way these games use the style.

>>717036618 (OP)
oh good, another character whoes amazing catch phrase is MRGRGR!

>>717036618 (OP)
trying to turn every SNES/PS1 game into this gay HD2D style is gay

No I don't want Tactics Ogre or FFT in this style, no it wouldn't look better. Want to make a new IP in this style, yeah sure go for it I'm not interested though.

>>717036618 (OP)
>sudden
Everyone was shitting on it back when Octopath released.
But honestly Octopath and Live a Live are the only HD2D games that look good. The Dragon Quest ones look specially bad

>>717042190
>trying to turn every SNES/PS1 game into this gay HD2D style is gay
Good thing that isn't happening?

>>717041754
You are being too reductive, the HD2D style is also functional since the games are true 3D, it adds ways you can interact or move thru the environments that wouldn't be possible in true 2D. You can see this in Elliot where your altitude is very important because of the fairy warp mechanic.

Too much post processing it's an eye sore.

>>717036618 (OP)
HD2D itself isn't an issue
Octoslop shitting out the exact same brown/bloom style over and over is

>>717036618 (OP)
Because Nintendo ended their most recent Direct with two of them.

>>717036618 (OP)
Combination of Square Enix making a lot of them and Nintendies throwing a fit whenever a JRPG shows up in a Direct.

/v/ isn't people, this is a board filled with retards that praise shitty china gacha trash. Go look at actually normalfag places if you want a real consensus.

I'm just tired of uninspired bland JRPGs
Octopath had such a promising premise and then under delivered.
Triangle Strategy was unbearably dull from the beginning.
Now we get their mediocre take on a Zelda style action RPG featuring the same mind numbingly boring art direction from all of their other games.

It's all so tiresome.

contrarians. octopath 2 looks fucking great.
>>717037547
there's like 4 or 5 games in the style in ~7 years, how the fuck is that oversaturated?

>>717036618 (OP)
Haven't bought a single one. I don't care for the aesthetics. I think if I tried any it would be DQ3s remake.

>>717036932
Yeah, I didn't mind it at first because it was initially novel, in the same way that SaGa Frontier 2 looked novel when you first saw it. But there's too many of them that look interchangeable, they need to get artistically distinct rather than just copy-paste the template everywhere.

>>717036618 (OP)
>It's a cool and visually interesting way to stylize a game
WRONG

I think it looks fine, but the bloom and shit needs to be turned off.

>>717046573
>Octopath had such a promising premise and then under delivered.
How? I was left very satisfied after beating the game.

>>717046573
Asano's gimmick is that he produces absurdly bland and sanitized copies of older IPs for the lowest common denominator, the man doesn't have a shred of originality or ambition in him.

>>717036618 (OP)
Because most of them are lazy
If they made better sprites then people would be fine with them

>>717036618 (OP)
Looks like shit

>>717046687
>Octopath 1,2, Mobage and 0
>Triangle
>Various
>Dragon Quest III and I&II
>the new game
>Live a Live

ALL OF THEM in the past 7 years.

>back in the day we had no voice acting but the polygonal lego people in games still managed to convey emotion through their primitive animations
>now, games deliberately look like pixelated shit with purple prose scripts and overacted VAs screaming their lines on fucking 8-bit sprite characters

>>717036618 (OP)
Actually it looks like shit

>717036618 (OP) (Visibly Homosexual) (Mentally Deficient)
>What's with the sudden backlash against HD2D games?
Sudden?
Fuck right off, retard.
I will continue to repeat my same opinion: they look like emulated games with shitty filters and a Reshade preset added on top.
They're fucking awful and made for shit taste retards who can't enjoy pixelart based games, like (You).

>>717036618 (OP)
because it's just mixing mediocre pixel art with shitty 3d environments overlaid with a fuck ton of post processing
HEY GENIUSES, THE SPRITES ARE DRAWN WITH SHADING, ADDING 3d POST PROCESSING SHADING ON TOP OF 2D HANDDRAWN SHADING LOOKS SHIT

>>717051437
>ADDING 3d POST PROCESSING SHADING ON TOP OF 2D HANDDRAWN SHADING LOOKS SHIT
No it doesn't. It makes it look cooler and more detailed.

post mrgrgr butt pls thank u anon friends

Started to all look the same like how unreal engine games do

>>717051641
no it makes the sprites look like fucking enamel pin standees instead of entities that blend into the environment, shading is supposed to make things look 3d dimensional but casting light on top of sprites has the opposite effect, it makes them look flatter

>>717036618 (OP)
snoy cultists don't realise they're multiplat

they're hideous and everything Square Enix touches turns to shit, they are woefully incompetent