https://archive.is/c6tIA

>>717038049 (OP)
Turns out censoring games is also brand damaging

>Kotaku
Not even an archive link should be allowed. Kotaku helped spearhead the cultural shift into condemning male sexuality in media. Fuck that cancerous group.

Murder is illegal, take it all down.

>>717038049 (OP)
I don't think that the bold strategy of "lying" that the payment processors have adopted in their responses is working.

>>717038319
If Valve emails Kotaku, who do you think I should cite? I would prefer Valve issue a statement on its website, but that hasn't happened yet.

>Non-consensual mutilation
>Sexual exploitation
So like The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4? I think 90% of fucking games are "brand damaging" according to those shitty standards lmao.

>>717038049 (OP)
>In a statement to Kotaku, a spokesperson for Valve said that while Mastercard did not communicate with it directly, concerns did come through payment processor and banking intermediaries.
>They said payment processors rejected Valve’s current guidelines for moderating illegal content on Steam citing Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7.
This is amazing.
Instead of communicating directly, they're taking the Pinkerton approach and use intermediaries to threaten everyone into submission.

>>717038495
>Non-consensual mutilation
every single game that has a bladed-weapon
>sexual exploitation
covers a lot more shit then you think, say goodbye to every single game with a chick with exposed skin

Risk to the Mastercard brand?
Nobody gives a fuck about the brand of card they use to buy shit, it's not even a thought that enters their minds.
Are these people retarded?

>>717038409
Nobody is lying here and you most likely didn't even read it.

Mastercard didn't *directly* pressure Valve, but intermediaries like Collective Shout did, who pointed out to Mastercards rules that says "if the piece of media has no artistic value it is considered like illegal media".

So this is still Mastercards fault.

>>717038049 (OP)
>it's all layers of intermediaries and no one involved is responsible
sound like jewish tricks

>>717038049 (OP)
Fictional content can not be illegal, lol this is so insane

>>717038328
>Murder is illegal, take it all down.
Yeah exactly lol

Sonis car theft, better take down GTA games! Lol

>that may damage the brand
ah yes, because people sleep soundly knowing that mastercard doesnt process payments for certain video games.
meanwhile im sure the banks that are oh so worried about their image are funding a war somehere. or some other shady shit.

Mastercard is damaging Valve's brand and my trust in Valve has been tarnished by this debacle. Gabe should sue them for a gorillion dollars.

>>717038657
>intermediaries like Collective Shout
Don't poison the well, anon.
Collective Shout is a nobody. These intermediaries are unnamed for a reason.

>>717038049 (OP)
sounds like it's a good idea to keep putting pressure on mastercard etc. to make it clear that censorship is also damaging to their brand

>>717038049 (OP)
>words words words OR ANY OTHER MATERIAL that the corporation deems unacceptable

That is the important part. It's hypocritical and arbitrary.

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part
So literally any and every game with violence.

>>717038049 (OP)
If Visa and Mastercard care about their brand image so much, then use their censorship to smear their brand image.

>>717038742
Like how Sweet Baby Inc was a nobody? They're all complicit, why are you defending Collective Shout and Mastercard/Visa

>>717038657
>intermediaries like Collective Shout
CS is a third party NGO. It has nothing to do with operations of MC, it is like /v/ in that its only power is to nag. CS *nagged* intermediaries is more accurate

>>717038830
Sweet Baby Inc has nothing to do with this situation.
Stay with the facts instead of making connections that literally aren't there.

>>717038657
but every piece of media has value to someone- even the worst DAZ shovelware.

CJNG used mastercard to finance their mini holocaust outside guadalajara

>>717038657
>Nobody is lying
They are lying. They said that they only care about the sold content being legal, which is a lie, through their intermediaries they pressured game distribution platforms to ban legal games. It's like a mob boss telling you he didn't get you beat up, because it was his goon that did it. Who was ordered by the boss to do it.

>>717038049 (OP)
>Sexual exploitation games are icky and a brand risk for major companies
So water is wet? There is no new information here

>>717038830
Nobody is defending a hysterical feminist group. But if you think they are the actual problem in this, you are an apologist, a deflector, a paid shill or simply a retard.

>>717038636
It's about control, if anything they are risking their brand by pulling out, showing that they are the inconsistent and unreliable middleman

>>717038636
They're afraid of activists. Things like, "Look, this manga where a rapist abuses 10-year-old girls can be bought with a Mastercard! Ahhhhh!"
The solution to this is to make a credit card, in the people minds, the same as cash. No one in their right mind would blame a ten-dollar bill because someone bought something "ugly" with it. It should be the same with credit cards.

>>717038473
Yeah, I guess you're right.

>>717038049 (OP)
Just create your own payment processor

>A Merchang must not submit to is Acquirer, and a Customer must not submit to the Interchange System, any Transaction that is illegal, or in the sole discretion of the Corporation, may damage the goodwill of the Corporation or reflect negatively on the Marks
I might be retarded, but doesn't this read more like "As long as it isn't illegal and doesn't abuse good will, the transactions between customers and corporations shouldn't be impeded"? I'm a dumbass that can only read code more than legalese. Should it not be up to the corporation selling/buying what is considered damage to their goodwill?
The other part that bugs me though is the "illegal" statement, because different areas of the world have different legal requirements, how do you judge what is/isn't acceptable for those contradictory things? You could say "Wherever the buyer/seller is located" but that doesn't seem to be the case with Visa/MasterCard slapping legal japanese pornographic material.

>>717038657
If I tell you to shoot up a school and you actually end up doing so, who is at fault?

>>717038820
>material that the corporation deems unacceptable
Along with a vast majority of regular people. Only basement dwelling incels want to keep pedo incest rape games around.
>It's hypocritical and arbitrary
No its quite reasonable considering cultural and social norms of 21st century. You are the weird one who is out of touch

>>717039195
Here are the actual rules, OP image is cut off:
https://www.mastercard.us/content/dam/public/mastercardcom/na/global-site/documents/mastercard-rules.pdf#page=122

>>717039265
The president for allowing it

>>717038636
Except it does.

>>717038049 (OP)
>patently offensive and lacks serious artistic value
Lol Americans.

>>717038830
sweet baby was entrenched in the industry and federally backed

this is literally a no name australian feminist group petitioning payment processors. they have no reason to comply other than the fact that they want to

>>717039347
How does one determine artistic value?

>>717039480
If I like it = it has artistic value.
If I don't like it = it has no artistic value.

>>717039090
the thing is no one even thinks like that today. It's only delusional CEOs as usual. Who fucking cares if there's a tiny mastercard logo on my credit card when I'm buying a fucking game. everyone already rightfully assumes that it is just a means of payment.

>>717039328
That's the same reasoning people used to rage at GTA. If it depended on you, there'd be no GTA because it goes against le good norms.

>>717039170
That's actually illegal

>>717039090
NOBODY is blaming payment processors for the shit other stores are selling in an honest way. Some dishonest women are just looking for ANY angle to get shit they don't like banned by snitching on ANY authority that would give them their way.

You can observe this behavior in females from a very young age. If they don't get what they want, they will snitch up the ladder of authority (teachers, parents, managers, police or just a strong male that sympathizes with them) until they GET what they want. And they don't do it with arguments, they do it with crying and shouting.

>>717038049 (OP)
ok, if im a business, how the fuck am i supposed to know what the hell counts as "things that may negatively reflect on the corporation"

nobody but the purists were complaining about the gooner games

who the fuck cares? its not disneyland, its a fucking payment processor, are you telling me i can buy a gun with mastercard but not smut? thats retarded

>>717039090
>>717039090
What manga is that?

>>717038049 (OP)
How is it brand damaging when those transactions should be confidential and private? No one should know they happened besides the buyer, seller, processor, and potentially IRS.

>>717039663
>if im a business, how the fuck am i supposed to know what the hell counts as "things that may negatively reflect on the corporation"
You take preemptive steps to remove everything that could possibly do so.
Kind of like how you would remove sharp things from a home when you're expecting a baby.

>>717039653
Oh...

Just put a tiny scene at the end of your game with all the characters alive and discussing how the entire thing was just a movie, nobody is related by blood, and everyone consented to everything
Just like how incest does the step-mom/sibling thing

What can we do to further damage Mastercard/Visa's brand reputation?

>>717039382
That part is especially stupid since the first amendment specifically protects offensive material, because nobody needs the first amendment for things everyone agrees with.
So don't blame this on america.

And "lacks serious artistic value" is just obvious pr speak for "we don't like it".

>>717039696
idk, look up some tags on sadpanda and see what you get

>>717038049 (OP)
>don't sell stuff that's illegal :^)

DEPICTING STUFF THAT IS ILLEGAL IS NOT ILLEGAL ITSELF

>>717039765
Problem is that "sharp" is usually a quantifiable measure, "things that may negatively reflect on the corporation" is subjective.

>>717039803
>step-mom/sibling thing
I know WHY they do this
But it 110% ruins the immersion for me

>>717039876
>"things that may negatively reflect on the corporation" is subjective.
You may think so, but companies usually hire people who claim to know what those things are and let them do their risk assessment.
Said persons are also usually recommended by the companies requiring you to not step on toes. Funny how that works.

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsensual mutilation of a person
You could argue that's like at least 86% of games

>>717039363
Sorry Mr. Delusional CEO, nobody gives a fuck about the logo on their credit cards.

>>717039810
people have been arrested over drawings before. the first amendment didn't protect them because judges ruled that the works had no artistic merit, so that's not just a pr thing. there are actual legal classifications as well

>>717039803
>>717039894
>>717039894
Wait what happens at the end in these incest things?

>>717039804
Nothing. They could release videos of the board eating babies and it wouldn't make anyone like them less.

>>717038049 (OP)
>What tears this situation down won't be simply the cries of the people but the egos of the partners
Would be UNFATHOMABLY poetic. Holy fuck. Please let it happen.

anyone thinking this will end well havent looked at how bad games have gotten after anita's jew ass ruined everything

>>717039975
>Pro censorship
>Talks like a faggot redditor

>>717038049 (OP)
>sorry, were you lying or was I?

>>717040074
She got married and you’re still alone

>>717040103
>She got married
She held a mock wedding*
And no I'm not kidding

>>717039265
The building it happened in.
The weapons that were used.
The air that was breathed.

>What will tear down the Visa/Mastercard duopoly and expose the overreach of payment processors is not people losing their businesses/jobs/income over political speech or other wrong think, but instead gamers losing goon material
I'm glad it is happening, but it is funny regardless.

>>717039996
Which is retarded circular reasoning because if it was drawn well enough and with enough detail to get you arrested then clearly you applied artistic techniques during its production. If I draw stick figure rape and take it to the cops it'll just get a laugh.

>>717040165
Genuinely the saddest thing I've ever beheld. It's funny because of who she is, but holy shit.

>>717038636
Ironically, more damage was done to the VISA & Mastercard brands because of the censorship than was ever done prior to the censorship

>>717040165
Oh fuck that’s sad
It’s okay she’s only 30, she still has time

>>717040074
Dumb niggers gave her ammunition by talking about her.

>>717040305
Only five years over the wall!

>patently offensive
>lacks serious artistic value
This is ripped straight from US Obscenity laws, that’s what Mastercard is afraid of.

>>717039803
No I shouldn't be forced to do this. Everyone with a brain inside their head knows that fiction is fiction.

>>717038049 (OP)
>may damage the goodwill of the corporation or reflect negatively on the marks
What looks worse for mastercard?
a.) Letting people buy and sell what the want even if the material may be controversial or offensive to soccer moms.
or
b.) Mastercard snuffing creative works they don't like out of existence because they somehow think letting people buy things freely hurts their brand.

fucking retards

>>717039090
It's good that they're afraid of activists, gamers will hound them for years while making a lot more noise. Let's see how afraid they'll be in time.

>lacks artistic value
who the fuck do they think they are to decide this

>>717039382
>>717039480
>Why yes, games like No Mercy or Incest Tales IV the rape edition are basically comparable to Renaissance paintings and should be preserved on account of artistic merit
You don't even believe that yourself, stop being disingenuous about your shady fap material.

>>717039265
The jew typically

>>717040403
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>717039990
I do. Mastercard is for the poor people with bad credit.

>>717039996
>people have been arrested over drawings before
Australia and the UK are not real countries

>>717040425
ALL art is subjective nigger.

>>717040305
>she’s only 30
She's 42 my dude.

>>717040496
I was talking about the US.

>>717040425
I thought the whole point of art was subjective value?

At this point, I'm starting to feel like the CC drama is some weird-ass distraction attempt to sweep Stop Killing Games under the rug.
Which is really fucking weird.

>>717040425
It's all or nothing. If you won't protect shovelware you won't protect serious art.

>>717040425
Art is a banana duct tapped to a wall.
Who are you to say No Mercy has less value than that.
Certaintly had a lot more labor put into it.

Why are they trying so hard to hide the censorship using underhand tactics. Is almost like they know what they're doing is wrong and illegal.

>>717040301
>Ironically, more damage was done to the VISA & Mastercard brands because of the censorship than was ever done prior to the censorship
Not enough

>>717039975
ive never seen a gooner die of jerking off

how is it ok to buy guns and ammo with payment processors but not smut, explain that

>>717040425
>corporations should decide what is or is not art
why

>>717040609
JUST MOVE THE BOARDS OVER THERE, BOARD MOVER

>>717040425
it doesnt matter what you think, it's either all or nothing. you cannot objectively define artistic merit, no one can.

Sounds like people need to complain about VISA & MC processing transactions to buy weapons and ammunition since it's damaging to their brand to be associated with facilitating murder and violence

>>717040664
>ive never seen a gooner die of jerking off
I've read about some cases. Apparently if you do it >20 times on a day you are at heavy risk of hearts failure.

>>717040664
There is no logic to be found, anon.
It's all emotional reasoning.

>>717040664
Very simple, actually.
Guns, while utilized for negative purposes, are primarily* used for sport and to protect yourself and loved ones.
*Source not listed
Whereas smut contributes nothing* to intellectual growth and is widely** considered to be mentally decaying and a waste of people's time.
*Source not listed
**Source doesn't exist

I had zero feelings towards mastercard or visa before this. I did not consider them brands, just necessary things like trash bags or c>>717038049 (OP)
an openers.
Now I think they're completely fucking retarded and I'm genuinely worried about them handling my purchases.

They've done more permanent damage to their own "brand" with this shit show than anyone or anything else ever could have.

>>717040813
they don't ban those because already log and report those transactions to the government

>>717040301
It was already damaged due to their direct branding.

>>717040609
>Why are they trying so hard to hide the censorship using underhand tactics
They're scared of getting sued/regulated. It's the only reason why mastercard would even try to make a disingenuous statement about it defending themselves instead of just ignoring it.

>>717040228
Never fuck with weebs and their goon material.
You have no idea how much they spend on their hentai figures with dump truck asses.

>>717040869
So 20 is the limit.

clogging the lines to individually report anything with "nonconsensual mutilation" is only just, I think
I mean, it's "patently offensive"

>>717038636
They're not retarded, they're actively malevolent because they want the world to be a certain way.

>>717040813
They literally already tried to do that though

>>717041036
You're never gonna make Guinness with that attitude.

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part
That's like half of all video games, including Valve games themselves.
Certainly BG3 and GTA should be delisted. We should be spamming that.

>>717041071
We need to compile a list of games that violates their hilariously subjective ruling.

>>717041031
Kino because I did nothing except waging this week, I did not even play a single second of a game.

>>717038894
kill yourself faggot shill

>>717039090
No, the answer is to kill more globalists and plutocrats. This should be construed as a threat.

Can we complain about payment processors processing vegan "milk" substitute products that some soccer moms are feeding their infants instead of natural breast milk and dooming and crippling them this way for all their lives?

Turns out corn syrup sugar, water and additives is not a healthy diet for an infant.

>>717039804
Start claiming online that John Mastercard is a pedophile.

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsentual mutilation
huh? but these companies facilitate insurance payments for circumcision, and that's real mutilation against real children, not pixels

>>717041189
Actually, scratch that, not just games but media in general.
Books
Movies
TV shows
Music
ANYTHING that features the things they deem "patently offensive".

>>717041189
a very easy one is every version of Mortal Kombat

oh and dont forget EVERY SINGLE MOVIE WITH VIOLENCE, if you can buy puritan mastercard and visa must do something about it right? someone think of the children! i wish visa and mastercard to raise my damn kids

>>717040664
Processing payments for guns pros: men with guns built every nation on earth, defended the people they love and feed themselves with hunted animals. Literally the second right added to the constitution 250 years ago
Gun cons: sometimes innocents get shot the same way people get stabbed, run over, and medicated to death
>
Processing payments for gooner games pros: Nothing lol
gooner games cons: Aiding & abetting pedophiles and sexual deviants

I'm against censorship but get real moron what a dumb comparison

>>717041369
there are a metric fuck ton of romance smut books that would fall under their rule set lmao

>>717039265
the glowniggers

>>717040425
If we don't protect No Mercy or Incest Tales IV: Rape Edition, people won't protect a Renaissance painting. Remember when people were clamoring for David to get underpants?

>>717041243
>guys lets kill all *insert conspiracy boogeyman group here*
killing productive members of society won't solve your personal problems you know

>>717041340
Why is that the last remaining accusation that still has some weight to it?
Calling people virgins, incels and Nazis doesn't have any power anymore whatsoever.

>>717040813
Holy shit that's based and incredible. I'm wildly pro-gun but that would be HILARIOUS.

Print out a list of every game ever made and read it to the phone monkey one by one, demanding they all be banned for being offensive.

>>717040713
okay...


jackass

>>717040664
>ive never seen a gooner die of jerking off
Auto-erotic asphyxiation, but I'd argue that's more Darwinism at play.

>>717041612
fucking kek

>>717040425
I personally couldn't care less about most of the slop WEGs that got removed from steam. What I do care about is letting someone set the standard whose only interest is money.
If the artist says it's art, it's art. If that shit counts for other creative media, it should count for vidya.

>>717041492
>Visa/MC bans erotic smut books
>Suddenly, every woman on the planet will join us

>>717041571
>globalist plutocrats
>productive
Pick one and only one

>>717038049 (OP)
I thought Mastercard was the payment processor. If they're not, who is, and what's the proper term to refer to companies like VISA and Mastercard?

>>717040425
I don't have to believe in it in order for it to have artistic value

>>717041612
Someone call and ask if they're allowed to buy Battletoads

>>717041595
Because the world we live in is incredibly gay. Blame the demiurge.

>>717041369
Just say rap music.
They actually rap about how they are DOING illegal things. And there are many middle men involved here until a person is hearing that song on their own device including payment processors

>>717038328
>>717038495
That's coming down the line. If we roll over on this, they'll just keep pushing and banning.

>>717039804
Creating a decent alternative for western world and making deals with big names.

>>717041760
>demiurge
Strange way of spelling 'jews'

>>717040372
these guidelines are for chumps like you and me to read, they do not determine what the corporation is going to do
in the end that's going to decided by an asshole millionaire VP

Visa claim they have the opposite policy and they'll never refuse a transaction that isn't illegal since they consider policing legal transactions unjust and damaging to the brand
and guess what they do it anyway

try asking for the name of steam's IMA so you can lodge a complaint

>>717041632
...

I know you're gay

>>717040228
Only reveals how truly brainwashed and unmotivated normies have become honestly. It's only the fringe degenerates that can see what's really happening.

>>717041683
That's EXACTLY what's going to happen. House wives ans girls resting smut are more rabid than gamers

>>717040813
>Hypocrites! You banned porn games but not guns and ammunition which are much worse!
>they ban guns and ammunition
>...Well at least we found out that they aren't hypocrites, wait why haven't they banned film and tv depictions of violence then???
I don't like your plan

>>717041472
>gooner games cons: Aiding & abetting pedophiles and sexual deviants

so, someone jerking off within the privacy of their own home is worse than someone shooting up a wallmart?

i am not even anti-gun but this is the most idiotic, double standard ever

>>717041243
This.

>>717038657
Define 'artistic value'

>>717038860
>CS is a third party NGO.
Call it what it is, an astroturf group.
>'grassroots' organization that doesn't disclose donors or donation amounts

>>717041929
no no anon, they wouldn't be able to ban guns and ammunitions themselves, just the sale of them. and that would be a very, very bad idea for them

>>717040813
that's antisemitic

>>717041942
You never noticed America's double standard preferring violence over sex before?
It's mostly because you see sex, you want to go out and have sex. You see violence, you don't want to go out and commit violence.

>>717041864
oh great, you'll like this, someone's on my ass

>>717040664
I'm pretty sure I saw an article last year of an elderly japanese man who died jerking it.
doctors determined that he was having a stroke

>>717042056
It would be if there were any Jews at the top of those companies, but there's not. This one's on the Christians.

It works. The controlling class wastes so much time and money right now.
We should be a moral society but not a society where regiment decides what is right and what's wrong.

You decide. We decide. And not the few rich and powerful. If we don't, we have just given up.

>>717041472
this, summer memories made me fuck my aunt

>>717038860
So who is funding this super independent NGO that is doing all the dirty work and taking the blame for all these actions?
Who's paying them?

>>717042120
When I see sex in a game I want to finish the fucking game anon.

>>717038049 (OP)
goodwill of the Corporation

>>717042283
Their rich husbands who are funded by jews

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsensual mutilation of a person's body part
So the images are not okay, but paying for circumcising babies is. What a tangled web we weave.

>>717038049 (OP)
So, why aren't movies being removed from streaming services? Why aren't vídeos being removed from YouTube? This content is only "illegal" in games?

>>717040540
Last time that happened was in the 90s.
UK is throwing people into jail for singing along to rap songs right now in current year.

>>717040568
It's a valuable reminder that there's more than one way to kill games.

>>717042283
Jews. USAIDS was only their most well known slush fund.

>>717038049 (OP)
how come games on steam bad and ruining the company image while child porn blue archive good?

>>717042120
>It's mostly because you see sex, you want to go out and have sex.

ok, so what?

>You see violence, you don't want to go out and commit violence.

ok but they are allowing the purchase of the means to commit violence

no amount of of dirty games, videos or magazines is going to allow you to have more sex

>>717041926
>teaming with karens to beat the jew

>>717040425
Let me guess, you think the statue of David, just a dude with his dick hanging out doing FUCKIN NOTHING, is some high class art right?

>>717038049 (OP)
>or reflect negatively on The Marks
I've heard of nepotism but all the top leaders having the same name is fucking ridiculous

>>717039090
>They're afraid of activists. Things like, "Look, this manga where a rapist abuses 10-year-old girls can be bought with a Mastercard! Ahhhhh!"
Credit cards have long since reached the point where they are just considered as currency. Being upset at someone using mastercard to buy illegal content is akin to blaming a 20 dollar bill for being used to purchase weed on a street corner.

Once again, this move has actually put them in the public eye and reminded people that "mastercard" is a company that someone owns and you can disagree with that person.

>>717042289
Yes, but you're a gamer, not a normie

>>717038495
Diablo 2, Baldur's Gate, Balde of Darkness, Arcanum of Steamworks and Magic Obscura, Wizardry 8 etc. People don't realize how many games would fall in those categories.

>>717042172
ok but jerking off clearly doesnt cause strokes, this board would be literally dead otherwise

>>717041472
Your 1st example is the 2nd amendment.
Your 2nd example is the 1st amendment.
The entire point of the 2nd amendment is protecting the 1st amendment.
Men with guns built every nation on earth by writing after they seized the land.

>>717042212
I will continue to buy from DLSite.

>>717042536
It depends on your age/vax status.

>>717042536
If jerking off was causing strokes all men would be dieing in puberty.

>>717042596
>vax status
rent free

>>717042683
Found the cattle.

>>717040664
it is scientifically proven that you will die if you jerk off 42 times in a row, I can realistically see a normalfag doing this while watching his blacked kinos

>>717038657
>they didn't know!
nigga you glow

>>717038328
There is a good point in their view, like incest in a few states is technically illegal even if portrayed in porn as make believe. Then you have countries like Australia where if someone has a flat chest, even if an adult its considered underage and banned. Easier from their perspective to potentially pull payment processor support to people/companies selling it than have to deal with weird porn laws across the world because in some roundabout way they are selling it.

>>717042536
>ok but jerking off clearly doesnt cause strokes
But stroke your cock and it's called "jerking off"???

>>717038049 (OP)
Someone should ask VISA and MASTERCARD if they plan to stop doing business in the USA since the USA president is a pedophile. Will they at least stop doing business with him and his companies? I mean why are pedophiles ok but videogames are bad?

>>717040507
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>>717040569
>>717040571
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>>717040762
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>>717042461
>Ford asked Goldstein why Jews were dramatically overrepresented in the porn industry. He answered, "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged."
total goycattle defilement and mental enslavement

>>717042464
This is why pure profit motive is insufficient to explain MasterCard's behaviour. It is MC's best interest to just collect the transaction fee from anyone wants to use it. Why attempt to build up a brand for this service? If everyone just perceives MC as a sort of common carrier, indifferent to what it is used for, nobody will blame it for transactions they personally do not like.

kek so it was actually Valve and Itchio being dramatic faggots and making a big deal about nothing

>>717042748
damn, what brave soul died to figure that one out?

>>717039663
By calling them i guess?
You gain knowledge with annoying wagies/management as a bonus.

>>717042172
>doctors determined that he was having a stroke
Well yeah, no shit, he was stroking his dick wasn't he?

>>717042850
retard

>>717042798
>>717042898
The joke so nice he made it twice.

i am jerking off right now and theres nothing you can do about it

>>717042830
Never reply to me again, tourist.

>>717042830
>total goycattle defilement and mental enslavement
They will defend to their last breath the poison which is slowly but steadily killing them

>>717042850
Someone is clearly lying. Either Steam and ITCH.io are fibbing or VISA and Mastercard are the one spinning. Someone is clearly pushing for the censorship of videogames.

>>717042943
yeah you are a retard, what about it

>>717042748
https://punchng.com/teen-masturbates-56-times-dies-of-heart-attack/
New number achieved, lil bro

You can buy the dead flesh of animals that suffered terribly before they were killed with Visa and MasterCard
You can buy weapons and ammunition used exclusively to kill people with Visa and MasterCard
You can buy chemicals and fertiliser used to make bombs with Visa and MasterCard
You can buy sex with women and underage girls who are kept in slavery and have it show up under expenses as a hotel visit with Visa and MasterCard
You can launder billions of dollars out of your country's government with Visa and MasterCard

>>717042858
You can't just go by a single case study, you need a double-blind study where different people are randomly given different types of porn and different masturbation targets.
I'm sure I could get funding for this if I can get it past the ethics committee.

>>717042878
does netflix call visa/mastercard for every movie and show rated PG-13 and up they add to their catalogue?

does amazon call them for the same reason?

steam adds like 1000 new games every day, should they call them 1000 times a day?

>>717042990
Sexy Male jumpscare

>>717043102
How exactly to they get these exact numbers retroactively?

@717043008
here you go goyim. you are my best goy! defending your cage on your masters behalf!

>>717042990
Oh yeah? Look behind you.

>>717042830
But here is the kicker:
The only porn being taken down now is independent porn, drawn porn and porn not funded by big industries.
Visa/Mastercard is doing nothing regarding the big porn sites with their professional porn, but instead go after the porn made by people not funded by thousands or millions of dollars. Ignore the degeneracy aspect of porn for this conversation, if their true goal was to stop obscenity then why would big companies still be able to film, distribute and sell their pornographic works while those without funding outside of direct donations and intermediate sales are targeted?

>>717043023
>Someone is clearly lying.
Hey look everyone, the conspiratard is trying to think!
But seriously did you ever consider that the parties involved here (aside from Collective Shout) are just trying to avoid bad pr and don't really have a stake in the whole video game censorship business beyond that?

>>717038049 (OP)
i was kinda trying to see their side before but this is some load of bullshit

Did people not know how fucked/jewish payment processors are?

>>717039803
A lot of audio works on DLsite have this in an audio often called “free talk” or with a similar title. Unfortunately that didn’t save them from getting hit by Visa and Mastercard. Pornhub doesn’t do this, but all the incest kink videos are unaffected. Almost like the rule isn’t applied unilaterally.

>>717042461
How many classic art is just naked dudes posing around? Not to mention straight up groping and kidnapping women lmao.

>>717039663
>nobody but the purists were complaining about the gooner games
Also every woman to ever exist, they want you spending money on onlyfans, not video games.

>>717042850
Is most likely the same reason why blue archive removed their paid reviews from steam without steam saying anything
The cheer fear steam has from getting blacklisted by payment procesors for porn games was too much so they decided to remove them before something like that happened

>>717043270
to be fair, those are being raped by idiotic ID laws right now, arent they?

its really ridiculous the level of moral panic we are having right now

>>717043418
There are many women gooners however

>>717043126
Don't you worry, those are all on the list.
First they came for the gamers...

>>717039328
>but muh GoT, muh GTA!
in reality this like the 500th time and nothing more over multiple decades of them just specifically not wanting to support these specific materials. Payment processors have no interest in being cultural censors at large because it runs against, you know, making money, but they consider the cost-to-benefit worth to to not enable the dissemination of content that has no cultural value like rape simulator 3000.
go ahead keep calling, maybe it'll shift the calculus but they were looking at 'we defend rape game No Mercy' >huge media uproar drawing attention from millions of women and potential boycotts

>>717043126
And you can and should take your meds and play stress reducing video games. Don't think about that stuff too much.

>>717042830
>Catholicism sucks
>we do this to stick it to the WASPs
Which is it? Catholics or Protestants?

>>717042821
I wonder how many transactions Visa and Mastercard did for Epstein and his friends. Moral Paragons LMAO! And those companies want to have the power to censor whatever they like when it comes to videogames???

>>717038049 (OP)
So, you cant buy real pornography with visa and mastercard?

>even fucking RESETERA is angry at this bullshit CS and Mastercard/Visa have been pulling
what the fuck bros?
Who should I support...

If baning porn is inevitable, EVERY PORN should be banned. I don't give a fuck if majority of US women gets unemployed, it's not my fault.

>>717042850
>so it was valves and itch.io's fault that the clearly powerful entity was big bro'ing them and not even willing to negotiate a single thing.
you are enabling this.

I saw a very violent movie on HBO and a Game of Thrones has incest in it regularly. I CAN'T BELIEVE Visa and MasterCard supports this by letting you pay for this disgusting services.

Do they not have ANY idea how poorly this reflects on their brand?

>>717043270
Because you go after the little guy before you go after the big guy.
Professional porn is protected by 2257 rules, which keeps them from being labeled pedophilia just because the women doesn't have DDD breasts.

>>717043607
The far left and far right are pretty close on some notable issues these days. Like THE JEWS.

>>717038049 (OP)
Your honor, I didn’t murder that man. I hired a hitman to murder him on my behalf. I am not a murderer

>>717043450
Absolutely but the vast majority get mad at anything that could keep a man from paying attention to them.

>>717043450
Don't you worry, they came for tumblr and they'll go after AO3 before long.

>trump imposes high tariffs on japan/korea
>secretly uses VISA/mastercard to sabotage their entertainment industry to make american(tranny) entertainment great again.
Heh

>>717042830
Little timmy really thinks that he's saving the West by giving multi-billion dollar elite corporations the power to censor what he can consume. Lmao, fucking underage.

>>717043608
>if things go bad for me then they should go bad for everyone! I particularly would like to see women suffer!
no wonder women don't talk to you

>>717042830
>Ban all 3DPD porn as that requires people to be sexually exploited
>Allow all 2D porn as no one is harmed in it's creation
This is the ideal you should work towards as it removes jewish influence. You know that porn will never be banned, it'll be "banned" and then due to extreme backlash only APPROVED porn will be allowed and you and I both know that the only "approved" porn will be 3DPD shit made by the big porn studios(jews) while anything made by independent creators will be purged.

>>717043554
...you really think he paid those girls he trafficked with his credit card? Cash is king with such things.

>>717043739
the censorship happen under the first pedo president not the second

>>717039090
>They're afraid of activists
These companies ARE THE ONES giving these shitty Aussie NGOs power. If everyone told them to fuck off we wouldn't be in this position.

>>717042830
>the single dev porn game made by an autistic japanese person is actually the jews
/pol/tards are so fucking stupid it hurts.

>>717043432
To an extent yes, but consider that most of these ID implementations are prohibitively expensive for a lot of smaller sites to comply with and on top of that still isn't a ban to the pornography in general. The big companies are still able to make their products and sell them, it is just a bit harder. Compare that to what the little companies or individuals would have to do to sell the same product, if they are able to.
I know it is silly using Deus Ex when talking about porn, but this type of shit happens with other types of rules and things for "the greater good" that isn't something that would ONLY affect big companies. It is a global issue of rules being applied haphazardly to individuals and smaller groups while the big groups are mildly inconvenienced at best but can still continue doing what they are doing.
>>717043657
And how long will that process take? There are historical examples of smaller regulations for entire industries that were supposed to ramp up to the big guys, but all it did was kill the competition and allowed them to continue making their own products/services. Going after the little guy if they are doing wrong is correct, but it rarely if ever ramps up to deal with the big dogs, especially if we are going down the rabbit hole of who funds who doing whatever they are doing. Most of the time it just puts power into the established people rather than letting the market naturally expand with new ideas from individuals and smaller corporations.
You gotta find ways to smack the big guys down early, they use the smaller groups as a canary in the coal mine. Once they are entrenched behind rules they can afford to follow but no new upstart, that's how you get the corporate hellscape that has been permeating since the 1980's.

>>717043680
>The far-left and far-right love censorship, and hate porn, vidya, and fun
>they also hate the Jews
WTF? Have we been going after the wrong target all this time?

>>717043831
When you're rich it doesn't matter.
You're untouchable unless the rest of the pedophile elite make you an example because you ran afoul with them and they have you killed while in custody.

>>717043741
I don't want filth in my country like jewish-promoted pornography or jewish-promoted shitskins. Go back before it's too late.

>>717043962
Everyone has.

>>717043607
have you tried not being a contrarian retard

>>717038328
>If you kill your enemies, they win
Sun Tzu - Art of War

>>717043962
>extremists have no moral consistency
wooow who wouldve thought

>>717044000
I disagree, but I can't argue with those digits

>>717038657
It wasn't Collective Shout, it was middlemen. Mastercard said to Bank of America(or whoever) to stop depositing checks for Steam and Bank of America told Valve "Mastercard said we had to stop depositing checks for you."

>>717043880
Wait which pedosident are you talking about?
Trump was elected before Biden.
Unless you're going way back and talking about Bill Clinton

>>717043958
This guy's a knower

>>717043925
>promote degenerate art and prop it up to turn people's minds into sewers
>autists start wasting their valuable time learning to draw scat rape incest pedophilia instead of doing something that benefits the world
>everything turns to shit
ME NEED GOON! GOOOOON! COOMING AND GOONING AND TROONING!

>>717043607
The only reason there is any sense of alignment is because of the muddled political identity of the perpetrator, in this case credit card companies. Nothing matters in the post-truth world besides tribalism. As soon as they want this matter to go away, they will find a way to label it as a sufficiently right or leftwing movement, at which point it will drown in tribal squabbling.

>>717043962
>Have we been going after the wrong target all this time?
No, what matters is the REASON you hate someone. For instance jew hate is allowed if you hate them for bombing the innocent brown people. BUT if you hate them for being child raping, demon worshipping, usurious scum then you're a nazi.

Do you think they've realised they've fucked up yet?

Even ignoring the hell they've ended up causing Visa/Mastercard employees (the majority of which were probably women) they're going to end up achieving the exact opposite of their goal. Since Visa/Mastercard were doing this bullshit for years now, but it was just isolated cases that people weren't motivated to really do something about. But after this, especially with a law being passed, Visa/Mastercard aren't going to even try this shit anymore. Really we should be thanking them.

>>717044281
least obvious falseflag

just want to point out companies drop statements on late Friday like this so it will get memory holed over the weekend in news coverage

>>717042283
Unironically American Christian megachurches. All these anti-porn "feminist" organizations get all their money from the exact same people that were pushing the "ban violent videogames" shit in the 2000s. They just put together a new mask and started attacking through payment processors rather than the government.

Have you guys ever considered to stop gooning for a second?

>>717044281
Pathetic deflection attempt, kike.

>>717043880
I fucked up, it's actually both biden and trump.
Doesn't change the fact that it might be a malevolent plot by america(being jewish puppet) to sabotage eastern entertainment.

>>717044281
this, the white man needs to be doing more productive things like dying for israel

>>717044281
>instead of doing something that benefits the world
Please give examples of what this includes. You won't or if you do you'll expose yourself as a faggot and a raider.

>>717044327
I didn't realize the news just stopped on the weekends.

>>717044281
Autists don't owe you a better world.
Give them a slave harem or else we won't build the world of tomorrow

>>717044361
I hate Evangelicals so much.
They're unironically turning Brazil into a way worse country

>>717044173
fuck i forgot you are right, trump was the first and biden the second

>>717044314
I would thank them by shooting them BEFORE putting them in the mass grave and bulldozing earth over them.

>>717038049 (OP)
>Muh BRAND IMAGE
Same reason as the JP sites they went after years ago

>>717044001
>blablabla I want to censor!
Yup, and that's why you're getting fucked.

>>717044314
No, multiple governments are now doing their work for them.

>>717044431
people's news consumption habits do

>>717043962
>>717044061
Most political extremists are just resentful due to being poor and ugly.
The ideology is just window dressing, they are merely looking for an excuse to kill normal people that are well adjusted to society.

>>717044425
>Please give examples of what this includes.
actually learning and honing a skill or field of expertise. electrical engineering, architecture etc

>>717038657
Lying by omission in hopes people take your word at surface value is still lying

>>717043831
Visa and Mastercard knowingly handled OnlyFans transactions for child pornography

>>717044559
just sounds like people with extremely weak minds to me

>>717038532
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>717044508
This must be awkward when bad things happen on a Sunday.

>>717044281
>Drawing cartoon animals swallowing each other whole pays more than regular jobs
>We need the entire financial industry and global governments to intervene because otherwise employees might have to be paid more

>>717044559
that society being economic zones under the watchful eye of the propagandists such as u/MaxwellHill

>>717039328
ban/remove Game of Thrones from all platforms

>>717044314
at most theyll rebrand and keep doing whatever they were doing since they clearly have sympathizers in every government

>>717042830
Your heart is in the right place but you're being a useful idiot for the porn industry. It's the big leagues taking down the small leagues so they have more market share. Nothing is going to happen to PornHub or OF.

>>717044609
>>717044609
Yeah, go out and build a skyscraper and wire it up instead of watching porn. It's that easy.

>>717044281
Being a artist is based.
If we can't allow people to just create or just consume we are doomed as a species.

>>717044763
kek

>>717044728
You'd think these sites hosting these people would get the biggest dig in their paychecks.

>>717040425
Firstly it's not just outright porn fap games.
It's anything with adult content. A game that contains a scene where a woman is brutally killed by a villain using a blade to set a motive for the main character to go on a quest to kill him, that also counts if the scene is nasty enough to up the age rating. A scene where a weapon goes off and a mother and child are killed by shrapnel in a war counts. A scene depicting child abuse negatively as part of the narrative counts. A scene where an obviously evil character is extremely graphically executed by being drawn and quartered counts.
The technique of getting your foot in the door with niche fetish content and killing off anything adjacent in maturity is as old as media as a whole. I don't know why people keep falling for it then acting like it's a surgical strike against only the things they hate instead of a nuclear bomb.

>>717044609
Why? The job will be given to some third worlder with a totally legit degree who'll do the same work for less than minimum wage. Why waste that time when it would still only benefit the autist as their skills will never be requested?

>>717044281
>All these seething gooner replies
They hated him because he told them the truth.

>>717044306
>Hamas
>innocent
Interesting how you're allowed to hate them for the wrong reasons but not for the right reasons.

>>717044559
>Most political extremists are just resentful due to being poor and ugly.
I dunno about poor, most far leftists seem to come from the upper class, but they sure are ugly.

>>717044441
I thought Brazil had been completely subverted by Lula and his cronies.

>>717043360
>Pornhub doesn’t do this
To be fair, there is this thing called "ethical porn" where they preface the video with an interview where actress is saying how much she likes working in porn industry.

>>717044281
A terrifying glance into the mind of an indian-nigger cattleslave.

>>717044810
>>717044905
just goon and inject heroin then --'-- like the WEF wants you to.

>>717039663
don't worry, they're trying to ban gun sales too

>>717044361
This guy is spot on. They saw how Anita dodged criticism where Jack got universally mocked and decided to use belligerent women in their next wave.

What probably happened: Visa and MC called some middleman (that both GOG and itch use) about something to do with cutting down legal risk, the middleman passed up the chain a maximalist interpretation
It's up to Visa and MC to fix this with the middleman

>>717044508
NTA, but you'd think people would have more time to peruse the news on weekends.

>>717044763
all I know from this series is that some neanderthal looking guy got to grope her tits

>Gooner are people that masturbate eastern media
>connoisseur of art is when a person masturbate to real women(adult and/or children) getting fucked by niggers or tranny entertainment.

>>717045007
>the feminist who hates Christianity is actually part of le christian conspiracy
Sure buddy

>>717044609
Game developers are artists, coders, and 3D animators, they literally have more than 1 skill or field of expertise you retard. Unlike payment processors who do nothing but parasite the people actually working.

>>717043958
>To an extent yes, but consider that most of these ID implementations are prohibitively expensive for a lot of smaller sites to comply with and on top of that still isn't a ban to the pornography in general.

well that would certainly be part for the course when it comes to government regulation in general

>>717042830
This doesn't make any sense, since actually religious Jews have the same stick-up-their-ass morals that bible-thumpers have.

>>717045000
I thought the WEF wants me to work my ass off while owning nothing.
>>717045132
Al Goldstein wasn't the least bit religious.

>>717044896
>I don't know why people keep falling for it
Because half the population are retards and genuinely can't comprehend something bad until it negatively impacts them.
>Haha yes I support ID laws online
>UH WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO GIVE MY ID UP TO LOOK AT MY FETISH SUBREDDIT????

>>717045007
This would never have happened if women didn't have rights, you know.

Reminder that the last time vidya censorship was blamed on Christians, it was jewish vampires removing crosses. Ask yourself: why would Christians want crosses removed?

>>717044728
Pretty sure Visa put out a statement saying furshit is fine

>>717045214
It's always the jews

>>717045000
>just goon and inject heroin
Or... OR, hear me out. I draw what I want, design what I want and make what I want whether it be digital or physical, whether it be drawings of sexy anime girls or a customized car. Why support a corrupt society that hates people like me when I can instead NOT do that?
At the same time, why "goon and inject heroin" when I don't want to do that? I mean if you want to be a drug addict, go right ahead. Try and force that on me you'll start losing teeth.

>>717044896
I think most people are aware of those shitty tactics. If the reaction to the delusional censorship shills ITT is anything to go by.

>>717040609
Bad for their image and could get some serious legal action taken against them. Republicans have been sleeping on a bill to do just that and payment processors don't want to piss off enough bipartisan citizens to get it passed. Collective Shout shamed them into doing this. We need to shame them harder to get back in their lane.

>>717045132
>>717045174
>Ford then asked, "What does it mean to you to be a Jew?" To which Goldstein responded, "It doesn't mean anything. It means that I'm called a kike." Ford also asked, "Do you believe in God?" Goldstein said, "I believe in me. I'm God. Screw God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it. We're random. We're the flea on the butt of the dog."

He's not some Kabbalist, that's for sure.

>>717045176
I feel like the kind of person supporting that isn't the kind of person to balk at freely giving all their ID and biometrics to anyone who asks

>>717045312
>I draw what I want, design what I want and make what I want whether it be digital or physical
just as long as it doesn't promote wh*te people having their own living space. that's dangerous bigotry.

>>717045214
What are you referring to?

>>717045132
>>717045174
>>717045398
>Jews can... le lie???
Pornography and defilement for the goy and not for me. "Jews love black cock" banned from Facebook!

>>717040869
I'm pretty sure after >20 times a day, your dick would be skinned down to the figurative bone.

>>717044953
>it's an Israel cocksucker
Of course

>>717041708
Jews, you kill both globalists and plutocrats and even more unproductive people like bankers, politicians, celebrities, activists, pedophiles and rapists, smugglers, etc.
>>717041760
It's jews, anon.

>>717040425
They've studied de Sade in universities for over a century now and his work literally has exactly as much artistic value as Incest Rape Simulator 8 Extreme Turbo Violence Cum Inferno Arcade Edition

>>717040869
Who the hell is jerking it 20 times a day.
That's like one jerk per hour.

>>717045459
You really don't remember crosses being removed from NES and SNES games? Fuck off, zoomie.

>>717045409
Don't worry, when the socialists take over you'll be allowed personal property, just not private property.
>>717045490
You think Jews don't watch porn? They probably have more NEETs and aspies than average because of their IQ.

>>717045539
>he needs an hour to jizz

>>717045508
>terrorist lover is a porn hater
Of course

>>717041571
Killing people solves all problems. People like you just don't understand the scale or the numbers required.

>Tranime porn isn't protected speech
Computer, turn all of my anime hentai into Renaissance-style realistic oil paintings.

>>717045672
>terrorist lover
But he just insulted Israel.

>>717045327
You'd be surprised how many people legitimately believe that and think "it'll never hit things NORMAL people enjoy" when it already has.

>>717045591
>You think Jews don't watch porn?
ah well the real problem is elite jews and the schizophrenia the jewish religion and christianity has given jews. normal jews are probably not as humiliation ritual'd as goy cattle but it wouldn't surprise me if "Jews love black cock" begins to be a thing at some point. in Israel there are significant disturbances when a Jewess marries an Arab.

>>717045569
Name 5 games where that happened and why (so I can research)

>>717045871
Gentile humor is so lame. You're probably the same guy who posted cool it with the antisemitism 5 times in this thread.

>>717045943
Slave morality.

>>717045539
I remember trying to find out my maximum as a teen and it was something like 12 or 14 times in a row, but at that point the thing was numb and I had lower abdomen pains.
It's not an impossible scenario but I doubt you'll get heart failure, from fucking what? It's no more taxing than regular exercise.

>>717038049 (OP)
OP, thank you for actually archiving the article and not actually linking it. This is a practice that is sadly not commonly adhered to.

>>717045959
>in Israel there are significant disturbances when a Jewess marries an Arab.
Not really cause the kids will be Jewish. The problem begins if it's a rural Arab who takes the girl back to his village and never lets her leave or have contact with her family.

>>717045995
Multiple Castlevanias, Final Fantasies, Dragon Quests, and Mother.

>>717046004
>he thinks that's a joke
Smartest kike.

>>717045010
In reality it's Visa/MC directly continuing their work censoring non-chosen

>>717038049 (OP)
Heh this thing will blow over a few weeks. Nothing to worry about guys.

>>717045340
Or.
How about the government takes action and creates a bill that prevents payment processors from engaging in this sort of behavior at all. Cat's out of the bag with this shit they pulled. Putting them back in their lane isn't good enough. Power needs to be stripped from them.

>>717046164
>over a
over in a

>>717038049 (OP)
>nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part
That's 90% of vidya right there.

>>717038049 (OP)
there needs to be more ceo shootings tbqh

>>717038049 (OP)
So, it was pretty much like
>Visa/Mastercard
No, we didn't.
>Platforms (mostly itch.io)
Cool, then we'll put the games back
>Visa/Mastercard
No, you won't.

>>717046009
To a lot of people it's just how they think. They can't even conceptualize it being otherwise.

>>717038049 (OP)
>Master Card and Valve blaming each other and both claiming they don't know what people are complaining about
the classic playbook.

>>717045943
>when it already has
Like what? Give me one game that has been affected by this that a normal person would enjoy.

>>717046337
A lot of people are slaves.

>>717046080
I'll have to take your word for it lil Jewbro ;)

>>717040869
Lol
Like one generation ago “masturbating too much will make you go blind”
Maybe you haven’t figured it out but Americans parenthesis close hate masturbation that’s why they cut part of our dicks off as a baby

>>717038049 (OP)
>Muh Brand
this is just a copout excuse that they are basically getting away with.
sorry /v/. no more anime girl panty games for you.

so they would allow "consensual mutilation"? what the hell? why specify "nonconsensual mutilation"?

TIL that credits cards have a "brand image"

Its all being ushered in whether you like it or not.
The globalists want a GLOBAL ID System.
This starts with internet censorship and then proving your personal ID details.
Its all been pushed to the world this week alone and all at once.
This is just the first level.

>>717046525
C'mon anon, you know how popular the tranny trend is right now. Gotta make sure the crazy people are given the option to chop their willy off in game these days! Gaming is so INCLUSIVE nowadays!

>>717046525
circumcision is consensual goy

i'm glad to see steam itself responding directly to that notice

>>717046560
meds

>>717041369
slasher films are big illegal to retarded pearl clutching credit card ceos

>>717038049 (OP)
>and bestiality
BG3 and similar should be removed too. If we're doing this it should be done fairly without playing favorites

What email to I send the gay furry porn I'm about to jerk off to for them to approve or reject? I just want to make sure what I'm doing is alright with Visa and MasterCard, they clearly care a lot.

Why are they like this?

>>717046664
yeah this shit is dumb. by their logic bg3 and gta6 are not allowed.

>>717041713
technically they're a financial technology "network" like owning the roads infrastructure between banks but not the point of sale terminal transaction. When you use Visa/MC on Steam you're using the card licensed with their brand issued via your bank

>>717044670
shut the fuck up

>>717046664
They have to play favorites otherwise they'd face backlashes just like this one that they were so scared of. They wanted to boil the frogs, not just straight into the deep end.

>>717046683
not sure, better call and describe it to them to be safe

God I wish some rich gooner would try to sue Mastercard and Visa. Or one of the game devs that got hit by this. Maybe a class action.

A man can dream.

Private banks are loaned money by the federal reserve at 0% interest and face 0 risk and they are perfectly insured and will never face any loss or any market force. They exist to give jews free money.

>>717046694
If your image is to be believed, it's because they're niggerjews.

>>717039090
Activists can't do anything. The companies are doing this because they want to do this because they hired millions of women and stupidly gave them any degree of authority.

>>717038495
That's the point. The old "I know it when I see it" judicial ruling. It allows you discretion in what to ban or not ban. If a large corporate partner releases a gore slop, all good. If an indie does it, ban.

>>717038049 (OP)
All the faggots in support of mastercard and visa should reply to me and have your IP banned permanently

>>717046834
There's no law against not helping you buy goonerslop

>>717046664
They have to start small. That's why they targeted the japanese first, that's why they're going after porn games now. The end is to get bigger things like BG3/GTA banned.

>>717046694
Because reputable activist groups didn't complain probably.
Anons and persona non grata magatards screeching about pedos online has little affect on major companies, while a well connected christian feminist group who are experts at intimidating people with "brand threat" speeches can make them seriously rethink their position.

>>717039328
Financial trusts should not and will not have authority to say what "social norms" are, nor to enforce them.

>>717046415
Guaranteed he’s crying about some nothingburger like Ready or Not toning down (“censoring”) the gore, nudity, and explicit child exploitation scenes ostensibly for the console release.
You know, something nobody who doesn’t belong on a watchlist gives the tiniest iota of a shit about.

>>717046960
I, as a gooner, am being discriminated against.

>>717038636
They are just liars. Literally no person
A. Equates their "money" with a brand or what products they use the money to buy
B. Credit card companies have the same reputation as loan sharks. Their very nature damages their reputation.

>>717038328
This. Accelerate.

>>717045340
>and could get some serious legal action taken against them.
That's not even fucking remotely true. Common carriers have protection. Ironically, by curating clients and their products in this way, they actually open themselves up to litigation!

>>717039090
Nobody cared about payment brands
now millions of people hate them, what a bunch of retards

>>717046997
cucking the gore, violence and blood mechanics to be less cool, realistic, fun and grisly is one of the gayest things you can do

>>717039090
It already is the same with credit cards. Back when governments were trying to shutdown crypto, they tried to paint it as complicit with drug dealing. Which it was. But it didn't work as a campaign, because people, as you said, are like "it's the money's fault someone buys drugs?"

>>717046415
Define "normal" here because someone who plays Fifa and CoD is obviously unaffected.

>>717039803
If the content is in the game it will get hit, no matter how you try to justify it within the context of the game's narrative.

The REAL way to handle the situation, is to sell a stripped down version of the game with no objectionable content, and then host for free download a patch or mod that adds the shit people actually want back into it.

>>717046738
>>717046976
No. The rules are the rules. Games like Baldur's Gate 3 should be removed from stores without delay

I've never seen a commercial for MasterCard or Visa. I've seen bank commercials, I've seen PayPal commercials, but I've never seen a single "brand image" of my credit card.

>>717045102
Check your reading comprehension. At no point did I say nor imply Anita was conspiring with christfags. They merely saw how journalists ran defense for her and would use misogyny as an excuse, something Jack couldn't do.

>>717046683
Apparently someone actually asked Visa and furshit is fine.

>>717044661
knowingly still handle. onlyfans never stopped.

>>717046997
So it's fine for art to be made worse if you personally don't care about it?

>>717045174
>Al Goldstein wasn't the least bit religious
Then him being "Jewish" means nothing to me.

>>717047290
What about human on feral? They said they disallowed beastiality, right?

>>717046960
you don't understand, in burgerland I am a consoomer KING. if I don't have the easiest, fatest, most convenient payment method to access my degenerate porn on the most popular mainstream sites I'm literally being 1984'd and all media is next

>>717047254
are you baked
they had that huge "priceless" "for everything else there's mastercard" ad campaign for years.

>>717047378
everything else except legal adult content I guess

>>717047362
Ask them. Be very specific. Ask multiple questions.

>>717044001
We're not falling for your tricks any more

>>717047254
>Visa/Mastercard starts a smear campaign on Discover saying that card is for creepy coomers

>>717040496
They have been arrested in the U.S. too, and not even for pedo drawings. Just for gore. Under obscenity laws. It dried up in the 2010's, but in the 90's and into the 2000's they would use two tactics.
A. Have an undercover officer go into a book store and buy an "obscene" publication (this included written text too) and if the clerk did not ask for I.D. they would arrest them AND the publisher
B. Order the book or movie online or through mail order to a state like Florida and then convict them of obscenity.
Jim Goad, Mike Diana were some guys who got this.

>>717047254
I've seen plenty.
Most of them come near the end of the year to advertise prepaid cards as Christmas gifts.

>>717038049 (OP)
>A Mercant must not submit to its Acquirer

>>717047426
I'll do just that, then send them an email with a portfolio of Dark Violet's best work

they went to far and now the shadowy hand of capitalism x art will strike

>>717047435
reply to the wrong post?

>>717040664
>>717040813
Been tried and HAS worked in some cases. Shopify delisted tons of people selling firearm accessories. Not even firearms.

THERE IS A BILL IN CONGRESS TO STOP PAYMENT PROCESSOR VISA AND MASTERCARD NIGGERY
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/401
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/987
CALL AND EMAIL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
STOP CORPORATIONS FROM RAPING YOUR LIFE
>(1) IN GENERAL.—To provide fair access to financial services, a covered bank, including a subsidiary of a covered bank,
>shall, except as necessary to comply with another provision of law—
>(A) make each financial service the covered bank offers available to all persons in the geographic market served by the covered bank on proportionally equal terms;
>(B) not deny any person a financial service the covered bank offers unless the denial is justified by such quantified and documented failure of the person to meet quantitative,
>impartial risk-based standards established in advance by the covered bank;
>(C) not deny, in coordination with or at the request of others, any person a financial service the covered bank offers; and
>(D) when denying any person financial services the covered bank offers,
>provide written justification to the person explaining the basis for the denial,
>including any specific laws or regulations the covered bank believes are being violated by the person or customer.


>(b) Prohibition.—No payment card network, including a subsidiary of a payment card network, may, directly or through any agent, processor, or licensed member of the network, by contract, requirement, condition, penalty, or otherwise, prohibit or inhibit the ability of any person who is in compliance with the law, including section 8 of this Act, to obtain access to services or products of the payment card network because of political or reputational risk considerations.

>>717047362
Not allowed.
What Visa said, and it's in the archive if you look, is that it's about stuff featuring humans. Furshit on furshit is fine, no man on furshit.

>>717047254
I used to see them ages ago when TV was still relevant. I wouldn't want to know what kind of garbage they're spewing out on the airwaves nowadays with how bad youtube has gotten. Even with the mandatory plugins.

>>717046428
You're wising up in your old age, unc

>>717047565
I refuse to be denied my cookie. Visa will just have to suck it up and deal with my commissions.

>>717047554
Government and companies are one and the same. Where do you think the money that gets distributed comes from and gets to everyone?
They have to answer to their own "landlords"

>>717038049 (OP)
>illegal content
So they actually admit to acting as a quasi-government by deciding what is illegal...

>>717047554
>STOP CORPORATIONS FROM RAPING YOUR LIFE
maybe my life doesnt revolve around drawn pictures childhood siblings having sex? lmao retards

>>717038636
Just evil.

>>717043270
They did go after OF and Big Porn in the 2000's. Both Visa and Mastercard, and banks in general. They would debank the actual whores "performing" in them too. They stopped after Obama came in and the pressure to do so eased up. Same with all the obscenity prosecutions.

>>717047554
is there something similar for EU?
like 1/3 of current parlament would jump on wagon to fuck visa/mastercard even harder with rest joining shortly minus obvious lobbysts

>>717047721
The online "safety" movement went from "no loli games on steam" to "scan your driver's license to use youtube" in less than a month, you fucking retard.

Call your US congressmen.

Matters to complain about:
VISA threatening companies to stop selling legal games & art in the US, claiming they're illegal globallly.
MASTERCARD threatening companies to stop selling legal games & art in the US, claiming they're illegal globally.
PIX, an alternative that does not block legal purchases, is being hindered by the US government from becoming an alternative in the US.


Bills of beneficial interest:
Fair Access to Banking Act [S401,HR987]
Makes it illegal for payment processor to refuse transaction for reputation or politics.

Bills to have killed:
Kids Online Safety Act [S1748]
Gets ball rolling to Internet ID, encourages device ID (for example, logging into Microsoft Store, OS ID, or Hardware ID)
Screen Act [S737]
Same as above, digital ID.
Interstate Obscenity Definition Act [S1671]
Scraps the Miller Test for obscenity law making near everything illegal depending on the jury.

Visa and Mastercard are responsible for 63% of GLOBAL EXCHANGE
The other 34% is literally only China
97% of GLOBAL COMMERCE is done through two international companies and China alone
And both those companies are dictating what YOU can spend YOUR MONEY on

I'm not racist or antisemitic but be real:
Name ONE societal problem that would not disappear or immediately get better if we got rid of every Jew on earth.

>>717040869
back in college my ex at the time and I tried to see how many times we could have sex in a day. We got to 14, and I was completely wiped out. My dick was swollen and sore as fuck, tender to the touch,etc. Her vag was puffy and worn out, it was a fucking mess. Pretty sure it took about a week to recover. The idea of beating off 20 times in a day is unfathomable to me

>>717043962
>the far-right love censorship, and hate porn, vidya, and fun
That's not even fucking remotely true.

>>717039328
so it has nothing to do with the legality of the content, and it's just the usual subjective moral busybodying

>>717046415
In every thread you say the same and you always get BTFO'd, censorship shill.
https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/vile-exhumed-steam-removed-sexual-content

>>717047867
>I'm not racist or antisemitic
Why not?

>>717047626
and what's with the youth being so antisemitic? whats next, skibidi showerheads in Dachau?

>>717047103
>>717046179
>Republicans have been sleeping on a bill to do just that and payment processors don't want to piss off enough bipartisan citizens to get it passed
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/401/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/987/text

>>717046725
Why can't banks just use the internet or phone wires and save money?

>>717043554
It's interesting. I just happened to listen to a long podcast by some dude who is meant to be the expert on the Epstein case. He said the blackmail situation as reported by most people is backwards. Epstein's perversions were not used to blackmail powerful people, rather Epstein laundered billions for individuals and institutions like Bear Sterns, and they used him because they knew he was a degenerate pervert who would never roll on them or argue. He was one of the key people in the GFC/occupy wall street fiasco, because his companies would buy dogshit loans, wait for the regulators to assess and clear a bank as "financially sound" and then sell those shit assets back for nothing.

>>717038328
>non-consensual dissection of a person or body part
can't sell mario anymore because you defeat these guys by taking them apart

>>717047554
>Cosponsors
>ctrl+f [r
>75 matches
>ctrl+f [d
>0 matches
Unfortunately redditors (anons) will dismiss this because they're caught up in directionbrain nonsense. Nobody cares about "winning", they just care about making the "other side" lose harder.

>>717038049 (OP)
Not backing down. For freedom!!

>>717046960
It is illegal to use your monopoly to put people out of business and threaten people

>>717039347
Thanks for the link.

i am protesting by ordering uncensored loli doujinshi

>>717048110
That makes s lot more sense than that he somehow figured out which rich folk were pedos without getting a single one wrong and getting reported.

>>717047324
1) Absolutely.
2) Games are not and can never be art.

>>717048530
>Games are not and can never be art.
The Supreme Court disagrees

>>717047818
No because it's illegal. Not necessarily to protect the profits of Visa/MC, but to allow NATO aligned governments a lever to pull against their opposition. Like when Stripe stopped processing payments to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine. If you look at Stripes TOS (and Stripe handles the bulk of the worlds money movements) they theoretically can't process ANYTHING that isn't Disney tier. But obviously they do until the government tells them no.

>>717044361
>>717042283
The name is
Heritage foundation
They are directly responsible for most other censoring bills being pushed or passed rn
You know? The censoring is to try and kill lgbt. They have the idea that the internet is responsible for it. So censor it and try to kill the culture

Same reason why Australia banned social media for under 16s, even though every child advocacy group has said it will harm children

>>717048204
The bills are full of evil shit
Its why the dems dont want to touch it
Even the wording on the stuff anon posted is questionable

>>717047958
Because those things are illegal. Even if I want all Jews, Indians and Blacks to be catapulted into the sun I can't be racist about it, or antisemitic. Because it's against the law.

>>717048627
Yeah man, the famously far left Australian government, which has hate speech laws and does fucking land acknowledgements on every plane flight, is totally trying to legislate faggotry out of existence. Retard.

>>717038328

>>717048361
That's what the guy said (he is some Tucker Carlson annointed researcher, so keep that in mind). He pointed out that Epstein would only incriminate himself and run the risk of being killed or at the very least jailed if he tried to blackmail all these people. But all these people through the 70s and 80s were happy to give this seemingly retarded man huge control of their money to hide in offshore businesses where they don't pay tax and that he could be trusted because he had so many "issues" that meant he could never co-operate with investigators or regulators.

>>717048530
>Games are not and can never be art.
from a subjective standpoint, there's a lot of arguments for each side, so it's up for debate
but from a legal standpoint, which is the relevant one in this case, video games are 100% art

>>717048847
Grow up, goy.

>>717048842
>he doesn't know
Both sides of aus gov are run by religion
Catholics on the right and christians on the left

https://freedomtobuy.games/

>>717048930
Every government is run by Israel.

>>717048842
The Australian and British left wing government spread homosexuality in schools. There bans are to remedy the problems they causes by having soft laws and mass migration.
>little Abdul will stop stabbing people for their shoes if he doesn't see Andrew Tate on youtube...right?

>>717048976
thanks friend, i love free games

>>717048992
Israel is run by christians
Its the only reason they get funding because the christians can't have the rapture and shit without the jews

>>717048926
Hey buddy, YOU'RE FAT

>>717049054
No, it's run by kikes. Many American Evangelists (""""Christians"""") do that gay rapture shit, which was also put into their heads by kikes.

>>717049007
No
Publicly it was done to protect kids from cyberbullying and scrolling addiction, bulimia etc.
The reason reason was trying to curb lgbt culture and force young people to use legacy media

>>717048723
What are you talking about? Nothing in what that anon quoted is questionable.

>>717049142
>Nothing in what that anon quoted is questionable.
You haven't read many bills then

>>717044670
Say it louder for the folks in the back.

>>717047818
EU anons should go bugger some eceleb to start another SKG.

>>717049140
They literally include the part about crime in the laws. It's a criminal offense to "glorify" criminal behaviour to or by minors. This will allegedly stop home invasions by Africans. If they wanted to stop lgbt, why do they aggressively promote it in primary schools?

>>717038319
THIS

>>717049221
So nothing then. Cool.

>>717038495
Emphasis is probably on "non-serious artistic value."
We can't deny that incest games are made for entertainment and are mostly parodies or at least unserious in the sense that they're made for cheap thrills whereas incest or rape in games like Witcher 3 are meant to be taken seriously as a topic and not used for gratification.

>>717048976
I only wanted the one and now they're all there

>>717038657
Not looking high enough, this is coming straight from the Western security state headed up by intelligence agencies, MasterCard and Visa are basically just branches of the US government, they do as they're told by those in power.

>>717049054
>Israel is run by christians
You deserve to be run over by a fucking tank

>>717049426
So it's mossad yet again

>>717048601
SWIFT not stripe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWIFT_ban_against_Russian_banks

>>717049456
Jews will be retarded hubristic monsters until the very end. They call it "chutzpah."

>>717048976
I'm not complaining since it's free.

>>717049484
Mere cohencidence I'm sure.

>>717047857
>Art
Guns you dummy. You forgot the guns. That's what the FABA is being started on.

All of you are double standart faggots
>doesnt matter if you dont care about porn they will start coming after things you like.
Meanwhile lolis in games is treated like biggest sin in existance when baldur gackte gets to have beastility and ntrshit trash, but no loli is the end of the world. You deserve this for talking down lolifags constantly.

>>717039090
No one. And I mean NO ONE. Puts the blame of purchasing manga on the card bearers. They always put the blame on the site that hosts it.
Even the Shout feminist group used the Visa angle as a scapegoat because they know nobody else will attack the actual host itself otherwise.

>>717049618
>standart
Brown-fingered opinion discarded.

>>717049618
Actual pedophiles like Trump and Kier will always target fictional lolis to distract from themselves raping real kids, No one can help you but a gun.

>>717049419
>fuck, we can never get our flagrantly unconstitutional obscenity laws past the miller test
>I know, let's have the duopoly that has de facto control over the entire economy do it as company policy instead

>>717040102
>Were you lying?
>No
>Hmm. Was I?
>I don't know.

>>717049697
Trump isn't a pedo, he just sucks jew dick, and epstein was a mossad operative

>>717049787
>Trump isn't a pedo
He's molested his daughter publicly when she was underage way too many times to hide it

>>717042836
THIS.
It does not make any fucking sense to claim they're doing it to "mitigate" risk. Anyone saying otherwise is either delusional or nefarious.

>>717049618
I have never once criticized lolifriends.

>>717043360
>but all the incest kink videos are unaffected
There's no incest videos, they're all step siblings.

>>717038319
truke.

>>717049681
Mutt calls someome brown oh the irony, and no niggerim from eu just on phone and without autocorrect you faggot.

But if this true can't Valve just put the dang rape games back up

>>717038049 (OP)
but it wasn't illegal? isn't this the entire fucking crux of this argument?

>provide your ID
>provide your face and backshot
>tie your real self to a digital ID for services like youtube now please
>Okay ID verified we now have fingerprinted you, potential criminal.
>Ah, but you can't buy that adult stuff, Mr. verified adult.
Why are things surging in shittiness this week specifically

>>717050084
why not, lol

>>717050073
>or any other material that the corporation deems unacceptable
It is explicitly just anything they personally, arbitrarily disapprove of.

>>717050084
Heritage foundation

>>717050271
damn so the people saying
>a vegan CEO could block the purchase of meat
actually arent exaggerating.

>>717050358
Technically no but that would piss off 90% of the population

>>717038495
> I think 90% of fucking games are "brand damaging" according to those shitty standards lmao.
No shit? How do you think rules are written? They are vague and open-ended enough so that the people enforcing them can apply them to practically anything if they deem it a problem.

>>717050478
one step at a time, Visa is a environmentally aware company and they will only support the purchase of bug proteins
you know, for the kids.

twitter seems to be going through its own humiliation ritual now
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/musks-x-must-face-part-lawsuit-over-child-pornography-video-2025-08-01/

Why are these jackass devs and businesses constantly making it hard for me to spend money? These corporations have, if not all, the power to stop this stupid bullshit, but choose not to. Are they masochists?

>>717044281
Man they're gettin fuckin desperate

>>717050310
Ooh are we naming ambiguous bogeymen?
United Nations, World Health Organization, International Monetary Fund, Wizard of the Coast

>It's about LE GOONERS
I can go to my local adult store and buy porn, dildos, and lube and fuck myself silly all with my Mastercard AND I get cash back if I use a credit card.

>>717050084
stop asking for the epstien files and talking about migrants goy

the average consumer sends 5 to 50 dollars per month to visa and mastercard in fees. Just stop using payment systems administered by visa and mastercard

>>717038636
It's not the people they're worried about thinking about the brand, it's entities like Collective Shout which is operated by key individuals from the pre-20s antifa movement and enabled the BLM riots. Regular jackasses like us aren't exactly able to lobby and petition national governments all day every day, nor do we have an army of "political activists" that travel the world burning entire cities to the ground. That's why a corporation as big as Mastercard is willing to bend the knee to them, they don't want to deal with that shit happening to their main headquarters, branch offices, or various acquisitions they purchased over the decades.

>>717038049 (OP)
>Non-consensual mutilation

So when are we banning Resevoir Dogs?

>>717050865
>WotC
well, they did fuck up card games worse than even the state of the PTCG right now

>>717050779
Most of the ones targeted up to now didn't have much power. They could have been run out of business entirely and their loyal and pissed off customers wouldn't be enough to bring down visa and mastercard. Steam could have fought it, though. All they had to do was call their bluff and tell them to either fuck off or try and deny them service. Steam is big enough, with enough customers, and (before this) a good enough reputation that them being debanked would have resulted in immediate legislation to classify payment processors as essential services and strip them of the right to decide who they do business with.

>>717050865
Blackcube Private Investigations.

They're continuously pointing the finger at others instead of just fucking owning up to it.

If its all about saving their brand image then why are they so afraid of admitting "yeah we did it because it would hurt our image" its almost like admitting the very action would damage their brand image which means this entire thing is fucking stupid

>>717051227
>muh precious Steam
They're in on it, you fucking goy.

>>717050196

>>717051303
That's what I'm saying, retard. Other businesses had plausible deniability because they genuinely could not afford to fight back against the payment processors. That's not the case for steam. They had the power to resist and chose not to. They are willingly complicit.

>>717051406
Warui, drunken friendly fire.

>>717051281
Plausible deniability, anon. The holy grail of anything lawyer-related.

>>717046997
You are a dumb nigger.

>>717051402
>Orwell and Huxley: shaking hands as shabbos goy (((blueprint layers)))