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Anonymous No.717039619 [Report] >>717039859 >>717040413 >>717040674 >>717044367 >>717045445 >>717046378 >>717047340 >>717047739 >>717048385 >>717052770 >>717058616 >>717060901 >>717061063
How the fuck did this game outlast Sparking zero?
Anonymous No.717039859 [Report] >>717047349
>>717039619 (OP)
Popular in Japan for some reason. You can't play outside of it though because the lobbies will just keep losing connection if you actually manage to get 8 players together
Anonymous No.717040413 [Report] >>717040868 >>717043113
>>717039619 (OP)
When will they add 21?
Anonymous No.717040674 [Report] >>717047165
>>717039619 (OP)
Not focusing on Super and Daima content.
Anonymous No.717040868 [Report] >>717041289 >>717043549 >>717048305
>>717040413
I think the new update is the last one (it added Cell Jrs for Cell, Super Buu Gohan Absorbed and Z Broly)
Anonymous No.717041289 [Report]
>>717040868
It's really weird how much they hate money.
Anonymous No.717041351 [Report] >>717048474
I think the players know the game is going EoS eventually, so they're playing it while they can. That and the game has crossplay unlike Sparking Zero; something that will likely be a thing for a while with the Nintendo Switch version coming.
Anonymous No.717043113 [Report] >>717043469 >>717060971
>>717040413
Not canon
Anonymous No.717043469 [Report] >>717047363
>>717043113
neither is Baby and he's a raider
Anonymous No.717043549 [Report]
>>717040868
>King Piccolo and Kid Goku-era content will never get in
pain
Anonymous No.717044367 [Report] >>717046157
>>717039619 (OP)
>outlast Sparking zero
The first season pass isn't even finished yet
Anonymous No.717045445 [Report]
>>717039619 (OP)
It's fun.
Anonymous No.717046157 [Report] >>717046351 >>717047112
>>717044367
Yeah it is
Anonymous No.717046351 [Report] >>717051489
>>717046157
no it's not there's still one more wave yet to release
Anonymous No.717046378 [Report] >>717046534
>>717039619 (OP)
Nobody likes Super or the new shit.
Anonymous No.717046534 [Report] >>717047025
>>717046378
breakers literally has super stuff in it
Anonymous No.717047025 [Report] >>717047285 >>717052773 >>717055941
>>717046534
they honestly really skimped on the Super content. the only Super raiders are Goku Black and Broly. They have a couple of Super-related survivor kits, but it's easy to miss because practically none of it is meta. You're more likely to see people using Launch skins than Jaco or something.
Anonymous No.717047112 [Report] >>717051489
>>717046157
Retard.
Anonymous No.717047165 [Report]
>>717040674
Focusing on Daipa has killed every DB game this year.
Anonymous No.717047285 [Report] >>717047563
>>717047025
they added golden form to frieza as well, RoF was technically a Z movie but let's be real it's more in common with supershit and was literally made and planned concurrently with the series
Anonymous No.717047340 [Report]
>>717039619 (OP)
fans went back to tenkaichi 3
Anonymous No.717047349 [Report]
>>717039859
This makes me mad. I see the japanese players having so much fun on streams, but american players are such sweats and try-hards and are not fun to play with when you actually manage to get into a game.
Anonymous No.717047363 [Report] >>717047628 >>717047676 >>717048594
>>717043469
GT is canon though. Just because Pacos like Super doesn't make it canon.
Anonymous No.717047563 [Report] >>717047745
>>717047285
ah yeah. he's just an optional transformation on regular Frieza, though. not really a full new raider. I'm surprised they didn't work the Pride Troopers into a raider, it seems like a no-brainer.

I also forgot they added the Gammas. I haven't played in like six months
Anonymous No.717047628 [Report]
>>717047363
Toriyama directly designed 21.
Anonymous No.717047676 [Report] >>717048746 >>717049515
>>717047363
Only pacos care about GT, it flopped so hard in Japan it killed the franchise for years
Anonymous No.717047739 [Report] >>717048639
>>717039619 (OP)
It's genuine a really fun game but the devs bog it down with the most inept decision making I've ever seen in vidya that's borderline purposeful sabotage,
Anonymous No.717047745 [Report] >>717047875
>>717047563
>I'm surprised they didn't work the Pride Troopers into a raider
probably because they didn't think it would make sense for them to attack civilians, I guess they could do it now that they figured it out with the gammas
Anonymous No.717047875 [Report]
>>717047745
even Paragus for the Z Broly raider doesn't actually kill civs, he just "enslaves them". Baby also just eggs them rather than kills them.
Anonymous No.717048305 [Report]
>>717040868
>no jiren or king piccolo
damn
Anonymous No.717048385 [Report] >>717048702 >>717048747 >>717049462
>>717039619 (OP)
Sparking Zero is still getting updated it's just happening extremely slowly for some reason
Anonymous No.717048474 [Report]
>>717041351
>panjobber
Anonymous No.717048594 [Report] >>717054907 >>717056032
>>717047363
GT is shit
Anonymous No.717048639 [Report] >>717049189
>>717047739
No new maps and a busted matchmaking system make it too hard to enjoy. I don't understand why they couldn't get a couple people to throw together a map with preexisting assets. He'll if they opened up a steam workshop I bet modders would do it for them for free
Anonymous No.717048702 [Report]
>>717048385
please understand, small indie company is still working on dlc for xenoverse 2
Anonymous No.717048746 [Report]
>>717047676
>It flopped
No proof of that, literally a lie that Superfags say when someone makes fun of their shitty series
Anonymous No.717048747 [Report]
>>717048385
>it's just happening extremely slowly for some reason
too busy making the switch and switch 2 ports, were also waiting for daima to finish so they have material to use
Anonymous No.717049189 [Report]
>>717048639
I'm convinced that they just want this game to die because it had everything going for it during the beta then release comes and they sneak in a gacha system then it only got worse from there. The beta was so popular that people kept begging them to extend it so they could play.
Anonymous No.717049462 [Report]
>>717048385
Apparently Bandai Namco's a clusterfuck at the moment, some bigger projects flopped over the past year or so and staff are getting shuffled around and shit as a result, maybe this game was impacted by that
Anonymous No.717049515 [Report] >>717051271
>>717047676
and super and daima is doing it in the rest of the world
Anonymous No.717051271 [Report] >>717051554
>>717049515
Jiren REVIVED the franchise, Daima killed it.
Anonymous No.717051347 [Report] >>717052035 >>717060953 >>717061937
sparking zero can't even outdo a fucking wii game from 20 years ago
Anonymous No.717051489 [Report] >>717051678
>>717047112
>>717046351
I thought it was just the super hero movie and the Daima crap
Anonymous No.717051554 [Report] >>717051780
>>717051271
This faggot killed the franchise
Anonymous No.717051678 [Report] >>717055429
>>717051489
the launch season pass ends with the next DLC pack which is Daima Pt2 (Monkeku, Tamagamis, Gomah). it remains to be seen what if anything follows that. the playerbase fell off a cliff within the first two months when they realised how little replayability the game had, and Bamco's attempts to pander to compfags (who all abandoned the game anyway) killed casual MP play.
Anonymous No.717051780 [Report] >>717052332 >>717052509
>>717051554
Sorry, forgot the pic
Anonymous No.717052035 [Report] >>717052069 >>717065216
>>717051347
I thought everybody played the PS2 version
Anonymous No.717052069 [Report] >>717052191
>>717052035
literally everything about the wii version is better
Anonymous No.717052191 [Report] >>717052890
>>717052069
Lies
Anonymous No.717052332 [Report] >>717052429
>>717051780
Ops, wrong picture, my bad.
Anonymous No.717052429 [Report] >>717052482
>>717052332
FUCK, wrong picture again. I am sorry.
Anonymous No.717052482 [Report]
>>717052429
FUARK, I got the WRONG picture, AGAIN. THIS is the correct one.
Anonymous No.717052509 [Report] >>717055045 >>717056105
>>717051780
I think you mean this faggot.
Anonymous No.717052770 [Report]
>>717039619 (OP)
It’s dead tho
Anonymous No.717052773 [Report] >>717053078
>>717047025
Moro would be perfect as a raider but they have stupid rule where characters have to be in an anime first to be used in videogames.
Anonymous No.717052890 [Report] >>717065008
>>717052191
better graphics
better fps
better load times and transformations
more content
more controls
Anonymous No.717053078 [Report]
>>717052773
>the stupid rule where characters have to be CANON first to be used in videogames.
Anonymous No.717054907 [Report]
>>717048594
This is why Daima did SSJ4 better, it feels natural not like some magical gay transformation that gives you clothes, it doesn't make sense if it's suppose to be a natural form of a saiyan if you just grow gloves and shit.
Anonymous No.717055045 [Report] >>717055421 >>717055945
>>717052509
>Badly drawn Goku with stupid expression :o
>Toriyama: THIS MAN WILL BE MY SUCCESSOR
Anonymous No.717055421 [Report] >>717055514 >>717055945
>>717055045
meanwhile random e-artists can be both on model and fun
Anonymous No.717055429 [Report]
>>717051678
God why do compfags ruin every fucking game
Anonymous No.717055514 [Report]
>>717055421
Doesn't he do art for one of the DBZ gachas
Anonymous No.717055941 [Report] >>717058347
>>717047025
>Goku Black
>Broly (Super)
>The gamma brothers and Cell max
>Golden Frieza
>Whis and Beerus transphere
>Gogeta Blue transphere
>Orange Piccolo
>Beast Gohan
>Bulma (DBS Broly)
>Cheelai (DBS Broly)
>Mai (Super)
>Leemo (DBS Broly)
And many more things.
Anonymous No.717055945 [Report] >>717058769 >>717060275 >>717065919
>>717055045
>>717055421
Come on guys Toyotaro is great, I can't tell the difference at all.
Anonymous No.717056032 [Report] >>717056502 >>717057220 >>717058273
>>717048594
This Super is so much better.
Anonymous No.717056105 [Report]
>>717052509
Man... Toyo really does look like Goku-san.
Anonymous No.717056502 [Report]
>>717056032
They realy didn't give a fuck. How did the most popular show ever get such little budget for a long waited sequel for over 2 decades?
Anonymous No.717057220 [Report] >>717060085
>>717056032
Yeah, it is.
Grand Taco would be nothing without the videogames saving the characters.
Anonymous No.717058273 [Report]
>>717056032
You both fucking suck and are a shit stain in Z's legacy.
Anonymous No.717058347 [Report]
>>717055941
Oh yeah I keep forgetting Cheelai and Lemo are in the game literally nobody uses them over Mai and Bra
Anonymous No.717058616 [Report] >>717058894 >>717059280
>>717039619 (OP)
>season 9
>still no Beerus raider
>no androids 18&17
>no CHADren
Anonymous No.717058769 [Report]
>>717055945
>hair not full enough
>cheek/jawline too soft
>irises too big
>neck too thick and short
>utterly botched arm anatomy
Anonymous No.717058894 [Report] >>717062687
>>717058616
Beerus has no evolutions, is the problem. and no incentive to interact with civilians.
Anonymous No.717059280 [Report] >>717062687
>>717058616
Why would there EVER be a Beerus or SHITren raider?
Anonymous No.717060085 [Report] >>717060503
>>717057220
The story behind Super's production is actually insane. When Resurrection "F" did well in theaters in April 2015, Toei wanted a new Dragon Ball TV series to capitalize on it... for July 2015. Not even three fucking months of pre-production. To put it in perspective, an anime is typically planned well over a year in advance, an episode takes about eight months to finish while being worked on with other episodes. So you'll have production for episode 1 of a series airing in July 2015 start around November 2014 so you'll be done by the time the anime is ready to air. You'll have rotating staff contributing every ~six episodes.

This was so last second, Toei's original series that they planned for that Sunday 9:30 AM time slot on Fuji TV was Digimon Adventure tri., and they instead did that as a series of six movies. Production was in a constant meltdown, they didn't even have new story ideas which is why the first two arcs are dragged out adaptations and filler episodes. The actual staff who was tasked with working on it was actually decent, some of Toei's heavier hitters, but they just could not manage with the schedule, especially since they still had series like One Piece, Precure, and Digimon to be working on. The stories go that the staff didn't take any holidays, they worked endless crunch and weekends for years. There were like four series directors in 130 episodes, which is an insane number. One Piece had that many across like 900 episodes, nobody wanted to be on the Super team. By the end, they finally started pulling it together AND got a movie out right after. Don't blame the staff for being lazy, blame Toei for giving them an impossible task. The staff literally had to set aside designated "sacrificial" episodes where they let everything fall apart just so they could buy more time.
Anonymous No.717060275 [Report] >>717060315 >>717060459
>>717055945
Im guessing Toyo is the reason why Goku is now Twinku?
Anonymous No.717060315 [Report]
>>717060275
No that's actually because of Toriyama's post Buu saga style.
Anonymous No.717060459 [Report]
>>717060275
opposite, Toriyama very specifically wanted Goku & Co to be be skinnier and Toyotaro wanted them to be buffer like in Z. there were multiple points where Toriyama redrew Toyotaro's work to make the characters thinner.
Anonymous No.717060503 [Report] >>717060627
>>717060085
>Toei's original series that they planned for that Sunday 9:30 AM time slot on Fuji TV was Digimon Adventure tri.,
wait what the fuck? tri came out on theaters. don't tell me super was the reason tri was converted into movies
Anonymous No.717060627 [Report] >>717061092
>>717060503
Yes, Super is the reason
Anonymous No.717060901 [Report]
>>717039619 (OP)
Probably because it's not a highly inferior sequel to a game from 2009 so if you want your dragonball by daylight fix you have no other choices
Anonymous No.717060953 [Report]
>>717051347
I’m honestly interested in Sparking Zero Switch, as long as the motions control is good as budokai 3 Wii
Anonymous No.717060971 [Report] >>717061521
>>717043113
There is no such thing as "canon" in Dragon Ball anymore. It's now all just random bullshit that goes together.
Anonymous No.717061063 [Report]
>>717039619 (OP)
I have no idea. I tried it and it's completely unplayable. The connection issues are insane.
Anonymous No.717061092 [Report] >>717061214
>>717060627
Super ruined Tri
Anonymous No.717061214 [Report]
>>717061092
No, tri. was going to be bad regardless of Super, you might call it Digimon's equivalent to Super in terms of writing quality (probably worse actually)
Anonymous No.717061257 [Report] >>717063882
>anime that is a literal satanic ritual, with at one point even having the whole world yell "hail satan" ends unceremoniously with creators death and his faggot gay pupil wussing out.
God always win. Burn in hell gook faggot
/s
Anonymous No.717061521 [Report] >>717061812
>>717060971
Let's be real the canon is just the original manga
No Z filler
No GT
No Super
It's fine to like some stuff these things added but it's all just supplementary material
Anonymous No.717061812 [Report] >>717062131
>>717061521
To be fair, Toriyama did contribute stuff to the anime. He chose Masako Nozawa as the voice of Goku and Mayumi Tanaka as the voice of Kuririn (also likely as the voice of Yajirobe since Goku makes a comment in the manga right after Kuririn dies the first time that Yajirobe's voice sounds the same). He came up with Yamcha playing baseball in filler and Goku eating clouds, along with the design for Gregory. He also came up with some movie character designs like Coola and Broly, and he also refined Bardock and his crew from Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru's original designs. And he also came up with the idea that fused characters sound like their components speaking simultaneously.

Still, it was minor in the grand scheme of things, and he even contradicted his own work not just in later supplementary materials, but from chapter to chapter. Gohan introduces himself as being 3 years old in the original WSJ magazine release, but he's 4 in every subsequent chapter and the volume/anime.
Anonymous No.717061937 [Report]
>>717051347
>Put 10 hours into Sparking Zero
>Put the controller down
>Wish I could go back to Tenkaichi 3 because it's just not the same
Anonymous No.717061985 [Report] >>717063065
Everything is canon now. Including all the Gohan Rares in Xenoverse 2 and your Create A Characters. It's just that they are in multiple continuities. Android 21 was designed directly by Akira Toriyama and is supposed to have genetic cloning material from Doctor Gero's late wife named Vomi and Majin Buu's DNA by experimentation and with bioandroid enhancements. Dragon Ball Z Kakarot ties in Vomi's story into the creation of Android 21. There are two different versions of Super Saiyan 4 in different continuities. Toriyama personally approved Toyotaro's manga and gave him the greenlight, then Toriyama kind of did whatever he wanted and ignored canon to write Daima so he could return Dragon Ball to its funny gag-loving martial arts adventuring roots shortly before he died. His health was dwindling and he wrote it as one last fun thing - the fans be damned. He didn't care. He wanted people to see his lore for the demon world which he was building up to in the Buu saga before he was going to die. It doesn't matter if you don't like it. It doesn't matter what is canon. Now stfu and go play the games and honor his memory you asshats.
Anonymous No.717062131 [Report]
>>717061812
He can pitch as many ideas to the anime as he wants. Hell he can even steal shit from the anime and pass it off as his own. At the end of the day it's still not the source material. It's an adaptation of the source material. The creator personally contributing to the adaptation doesn't change that.
Anonymous No.717062294 [Report]
It looks like the modding community is figuring shit out with Sparking Zero. I haven't been following it too much outside of seeing the Saber mod on my feed. Are they able to add more slots yet or not? If so then nobody needs to give a fuck about how much official shit Bamco can shell out.
Anonymous No.717062687 [Report] >>717063996
>>717058894
>>717059280
Just have a sleeping state beerus that floats around with Whis and awoken beerus that plays around getting food off survivors and have them flee, it wouldn't be hard, dude was going to blow up the fucking planet over food anyway
Anonymous No.717063065 [Report]
>>717061985
No
Fortnite is not canon to DBZ
Anonymous No.717063882 [Report]
>>717061257
what
Anonymous No.717063996 [Report]
>>717062687
then that's just two forms.
Anonymous No.717064228 [Report]
Enough, GT, Super and Daima were all awful, but Dr. Arinsu was still one the last great character design by a soon dead ass Toriyama,
Anonymous No.717065008 [Report]
>>717052890
The Wii and PS2 versions are exactly the same, save for the Wii version having online play, and you better not be putting that under 'content'.
Anonymous No.717065216 [Report]
>>717052035
because PS2 emulation is significantly more mature than Wii emulation, and far more 'serious' gamers had a PS2 as compared to a Wii, which to most people was the 'bing bing wahoo + waglan gramma exercise machine'.
Anonymous No.717065919 [Report]
>>717055945
>AI