what's the based villain version of this?
>I never suffered, like literally, I've literally never experienced hardship and don't understand why my actions are making others miserable
>>717045646>i've never suffered and i hate it, i will make myself suffer>as well as make others suffer to open their eyes to it's importance
>>717044975 (OP)>Life isn't fair
>I am suffering, and I am the cause of my own suffering, but I will blame everyone else for it.
>I am also the greatest victim. No one else is more of a victim than me. No one else can be more of a victim than me.
>Therefore, I deserve all the good things even though I've done nothing to earn them.
>>717044975 (OP)>they suffered, but why should I?>the villain is just a NEET and the lovable party is trying to make him work
>villain wants to help the world in his own twisted way and doesn't realize that he's fucking everything up until the damage is irreversible
>>717046761the villain is right
>>717046761Suffering is for losers. You think itll make you stronger as a cope. Youre just on the bottom of the chain and you think if you stay down there for long enough itll be an advantage, but it wont.
>>717047157Depends on your idea of suffering. Some people see basic routines and responsibilities of life as suffering.
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered, and I want to suffer moreGive me a villain for this vibe
>>717047598Sephiran?
No not quite.
>>717044975 (OP)>student loan seethe threadYou took out the loan, you pay it back.
Simple as.
>>717044975 (OP)>You're a faggot
>>717044975 (OP)>look man, I'm just doin my job.
>I didn't suffer, but I want to make them suffer anyway because I can
>>717045646>People think suffering comes in only one way basically they think they have it the worst
>I never suffered but i heard that suffering makes you stronger, so i'm going to make you suffer just to test out it out.
>I suffered and I am better as a result
>thus i must make others suffer in order to improve them
>it's their call if they enjoy it or not, especially the rapin'
>in gay so I'm gonna make everyone else gay
>>717045646>villain is part of the 1%
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>>717044975 (OP)The righteous shall be spared and the wicked shall be punished. There is no hatred. There is no spite. There is no sorrow. There is only judgement.
>>717050612I know someone who thinks like that or at least used to.
>>717050612Certain members of my family are like this
>>717044975 (OP)>"I will destroy the world">Humanity is already destroying itself>"Wow, they're retarded">Ends up doing nothing>Fucks off to some cabin in the middle of nowhere surrounded by a hostile environment and high level monsters just to live some peaceful life trying to re-evaluate everything>The heroes still show up anyway to fight him for absolutely no reason whatsoever cause he looks evil
>I wanna make everybody suffer cause I wanna know what'll happen
>I suffered early on and it made me feel like a bitch and I'm too much of a coward to make meaningful progress towards improving my life so I feel totally resigned to my villain arc. I couldn't really be bothered to be a decent person
>>717044975 (OP)where's the ascended "I don't care"
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered>no particular generalizations about the suffering of others follow from this
>Villain's hideout is on the other side of the river
>Heroes have take a ridiculously long detour to the hideout and fight tons of monsters for no reason instead of just taking a shorter trip to the hideout by boat
>>717046761This is YIIK except no one in that game is lovable.
>>717051047>>717051084>>717052601When was the last time we had a literal boomer villain?
>"I've only somewhat suffered, and I'll make sure everyone suffers equally as much, no more or less
>I've never suffered, so if everyone else suffered, I would be unique
>Villain has suffered way more in life than the Hero
>Hero still beats the Villain
>I'm stopping suffering! *causes suffering"
>>717052993>villain who got to where they are because of his merit is defeated by the chosen one
>>717046845that one french cartoon about a time wizard
>Villain is trying to fix the problem he caused but it just making it worse every time
>>717045646>villain is an autistic nepo babykino
>>717053353>I never suffered, and neither should anyone
>>717044975 (OP)The truth:
I was responsible and did the right thing, why do these bums get a free ride off my taxes for student loan forgiveness instead of pressuring the schools to stop behaving as banks?
>>717053469>villain is a young master
>Others thrive or suffer. Others try to make others thrive or suffer. I do not thrive or suffer. I feel nothing. I do not make others thrive or suffer. I do nothing. I do exist, but i do not partake. I am nothing.
>I suffered, so I'm going to cause all of society to collapse
>>717044975 (OP)>I'm the hero this shitty world deserves.
>>717050612I like the idea of a villain who is a villain purely to act as an opposing force so that heroic people have an evil to oppose.
>I suffered so you don't have to.
>I never suffered, but I have to continue to make you suffer so I don't suffer!
Saturos and Menardi.
They were trying to save the world.
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered, with the benefit of hindsight it really wasn't all that bad, with this in mind I will now mock your suffering because it is mildly diverting and you should be a man about it.
qoh
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>>717054887t. queen of hatred
>"everyone suffers, so deal with it."
>I suffered because Bejita didn't kiss my wife
>So I make everyone else suffer because of his inaction
>>717045646>autism is peak performanceWhat gave it away was your lack of empathy
>>717044975 (OP)Left is Phrolova from Wuthering Waves
>>717046616his hairstyle is so baffling and contrasts with his design I actually love it
>i'm brown
>now everyone has to hear about my cuck fantasies
>>717045646This describes Crypt Custodian to a tee.
>everyone should suffer because... I'm bored
>>717050612why are boomers like this this?
>>717044975 (OP)https://youtu.be/bP_4IKSqnh4?si=Pkpzk-Ttc959RlJn&t=14
>yfw he just wants more FREEDOMS
>>717052541Sex with Alexโs sister
>>717050612Are there any vidya villains that are literally boomers?
>>717045646>mid-game villain is an autistic nepo baby retard with zero redeeming qualities>end-game villain suffered greatly and has sympathetic motivesYep it's kino
>>717044975 (OP)>I didn't suffer. However, you will.
>Your suffering is turning me on.
Characters for this feel?
>>717044975 (OP)>other people are Hell>don't wanna hurt or push away>but for fuck sakes, people are fucking insufferable these daysi treat eveyone EXACTLY the same
Feel bad, but don't need any brainwash victims hanging around my front yard
scoot, fools
>>717061756Regent from NG3.
>>717061781i seriously thought people grew out of that phase, but they just can't help themselves, can they?
look in the mirror and sing lyrics written by others, fags
leave me out of your movie
I'm going uncredited
>>717044975 (OP)I'm not giving my business to my son or wife until they acknowledge some truth of the world. nobody helped me to establish it.
FIVE MILES OF MY SEWER IS PLUGGED WITH CRRRRUD AND SLUDGE NOW GO CLEAN IT OUT
>>717061997 AND I AINโT PAYIN' YOU A DAMN CENT UNTIL I CAN SEE MY REFLECTION IN THAT SLUDGE!
NOW GET TO SCRUBBINโ, MAGGOT!
>>717045646>my suffering was a comically small inconvenience at best but everyone else has to suffer a thousandfold because of it
>>717044975 (OP)>We need tension... conflict. The world today has become too soft. We're living in an age where true feelings are suppressed. So we're going to shake things up a bit. We'll create a world dripping with tension... A world filled with greed and suspicion, bravery and cowardice
>Suffering is bad but a negative times a negative becomes a positive, so maybe if i keep making things worse and worse eventually they will turn good right?
>suffering makes me horny, and I want to be horny with you.
>the Villain only did horrible things because if he succeeded he would get his loved ones back and his evil would never happen in the first place, and if he failed then everyone and everything would dissapear, therefore he doesn't care either way since any scenario would work out in his favour
>Considering his plan he doesn't bother explaining himself to anyone to focus on making his plan work, the only person to ever know was a guy that literally sees the good in people and is terrified to see this villain is genuinely good in the inside
>he succeeds but not in any way that matters and he actually has to live with the knowledge that all the people he killed were in vain
>He dies and is only remembered as a murderous madman since he never bothered to tell anyone about his plan
[Spoiler]seriously this motherfucker is the most kino villain i've seen in all of fiction, God bless those french coomers[/spoiler]
>>717044975 (OP)>I care not for who must suffer, my way or the highway
>>717047517They are
t. survives on neetbuxs because he is mentally ill
>>717044975 (OP)>"I'll kill millions because it's hilarious to me">"Fuck those monkeys"
>>717052541But you're supposed to feel bad that Alex can't get a girlfriend even after spending his whole life gangstalking a complete stranger and trying to force himself onto her
>>717065013>Have a tidal wave of shit, Switch 2 buyer!
>>717046845A machine for pigs (kinda)
>>717044975 (OP)>"Suffering gave me such marvelous gifts, why shouldn't I share them?"
>>717060929Armstrong did nothing wrong
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered, but I got over it. My plan has nothing to do with that.
>>717045646One "literally" was already too much and you added a second
>I never suffered, I've never experienced hardship and don't understand why my actions are making others miserable
>>717053079>Villain dies>Any of valid or legitimate grievances he had are glossed over and forgotten
>>717052993>it's been almost 12 years
>>717067607Sherlock Holmes over here
>>717065801>I never sufferedLike... figuratively or virtually or...?
>>717044975 (OP)>Only the living can commit crime>If no one is living, there is no crime>I must kill all the living to stop crimeAnd that's how Judge Death came to be.
>>717045646Based billionaire
>villain gets defeated by friendship, gets spared
>after the happy ending, one of the main characters gets killed in the very last bit
>in the sequel, all the MC's friends are dead
>>717068446>DOKTOR! turn off my suffering inhibitiors
>>717044975 (OP)something something evolution
>I want to suffer, so I'm going to make everyone suffer until the main character comes beat the shit out of me
>To end my suffering everyone else must suffer too
>Suffering is fucking awesome and there should be more of it in the world
>>717044975 (OP)I didn't suffer and they should suffer for it.
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered, why shouldn't they?>I didn't suffer and I'll do my best to destroy people despite this
>I'M SUFFERING RIGHT NOW FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK MAKE IT STOP OH GOD
>I'm gonna bioengineer suffering in all plants so that their lives may have value
>>717044975 (OP)>I have never suffered, and I will ensure that no one else suffers while I'm around
Making other people suffer is the true meaning of life. You must aspire to be like a cartoon supervillain, who commits evil deeds for their own sake. You must strive to erase every last bit of goodness from your soul, so you can become pure evil personified. You must acquire as much power as possible and use it to inflict suffering upon as many people as possible. Why? Just because.
>>717069929>if everyone hates me nobody will have time to hate eachother, I am going to create world peace
>i have suffered more than anyone else, this however has absolutely zero relation to my current path, in fact my suffering gave me some cool ideas on how to optimize other people's suffering.
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>>717070142JIBUN WOOOOOOO
>>717044975 (OP)>I will unleash the apocalypse so Humans are forced to cooperate or perish, creating a stronger world through hardship
>I never suffered but I will make sure everyone else does
>villain just wanted to jerk off and have a girlfriend all along
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>I realized that I'm a jobber and that my HERO is number one, so I became his loyal, obedient tsundere sidekick.
>>717068157Most of this is right but Kefka was a very, very, very angry person before he became a god. His would be closer to Sephiroth's because he throws fits.
>everyone should suffer because they annoyed me.
>I think suffering is pretty cool
>everyone should suffer for eternity because it means I can be with my girlfriend (who hates me btw) for eternity
xenoblade 3 was so silly
>>717054887title sounds like typical isekai slop (it isn't, it's just fantasy; 'reincarnated' is wrong, he's a raised undead) but 'The Executed Sage Who Was Reincarnated as a Lich and Started an All-Out War' has this plot
he's been getting a little too attached to his demon friends for my liking but overall it's pretty good
>>717054887The Joker realizes this in a lot of his incarnations.
>>717045646bondrewd from made in abyss
>>717071624i'm quite sure boner knows damn well his test subjects do not appreciate their role even if he thinks they should
ZASED
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>>717044975 (OP)Not a villain, but
>I suffered because that is what I desire
>>717052993>when you realized he's tried this shot multiple times because he's already wet from the start
>bad guys have a point
>Good guys win anyway because "doing that is evil!" and ignore bad guy's points
>Good guys pay for their actions, because the bad guy they defeated was actually right
This never happens.
>>717052993Fitz is dead and buried and rotten in the ground by now. It's time to move on
>>717064065Peak villain, honestly
>>717054887this is what autistic people are basically
>>717044975 (OP)Most of my life I was right and didn't understand left or why people were like that. But the older I get the more I feel like
>I suffered, we're all suffering, and the human race should end because of it
>Villain has legitimate grievances or a fair motivation that puts them at odds with the heroes
>But starts doing overly evil shit so no-one backs them
>>717069827>I never suffered and no one else should>because I give them quick death
>>717070142The only peace humanity will ever know is the peace of the grave.
>>717050612Isn't this just God
>villain has no motives but is incredibly cool
All I need
>>717074029Depends on your religion, but if you are Christian you should believe God, in the person of Jesus Christ, did in fact experience tremendous suffering (and as God exists outside of time, he had already experienced it at all points) but if you're Jewish or Muslim then yes, you're correct.
>>717068157>ultimecia just had woman moment
>>717069740>if a being doesnt suffer, then he has no value to offer to this world, by making everyone suffer, i create the most efficient and valuable world
>>717074029No. The real God, the almighty Lord Moloch, would say:
>I'm going to make you suffer forever just because it amuses me.
>>717044975 (OP)>this is kind of boring, bring back the suffering
>>717052541Vellas thighs and chondras hips are very loveable
>>717045646>my childhood kind of sucked we made ends meet but never had any trips or cool new things outside of birthdays or christmas. then we got lucky and now live comfortably enough to the point that outside of major purchases we never really have to suffer from want.>I blew up that orphanage because the evil guy I work for made evil feel banal by slowly increasing the evil shit we do.
>>717052018The only right answer, nice to see fellow RIfags in the wild.
>>717047598Baldur. GoW : Ragnarok.
>>717058213Unironically the mentality of most women
>>717053256Not really, Nox is very well aware of what he's doing.
>No I don't care about the innocent or upstanding, the existiance of evil people at all means the entirety of humanity should be destroyed
>>717044975 (OP)>The entire galaxy needs to be wiped out and rebuilt in my ideal image because it's the only way I can think of to get someone to love me
>>717044975 (OP)>I suffered, therefore I must suffer harder and make others suffer as well in order to end suffering as a whole
>Hmm I think today I shall spread suffering
>>717044975 (OP)the nortubel villain
>>717044975 (OP)>They should suffer and they will enjoy it like we have.
>>717081104KILL YOURSELF.
Porky
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>>717044975 (OP)>momentary pain is what I based all my life on.Children, you all are children.
>>717081840Holy fucking owned
>>717081825porky very much understands that he is making other people suffer because of his actions, he enjoys it.
>>717047598not vidya but got you senpai
>>717044975 (OP)>You're suffering because you've chosen wrong at literally every opportunity you've had to choose anything and you're being crushed under the weight of your own bad decisions. I simply choose not to help you because you're a lost cause.
>>717050612I always find it hilarious when the one of the antagonist pull shit like this which end up screwing over both his organisation and teammates just for his own interest
The self killing chad
>>717046616He was so fucking good. Just pure gigachad evil.
>we put suffering in your suffering
>>717051834good luck with that, kiddo
>>717055182I'd get that eye checked out if I were you
>>717045646I cannot think of a single villain that is actually like this, someone that truly doesn't understand what he is doing is wrong and hasn't experienced suffering, the only thing that truly gets close in my mind is Azathoth from the Lovecraft universe
>I've suffered long enough, my torment will end, one way or another
>Villain's suffering is the sole thing keeping the world together
I don't want this life... I don't want this life
>>717080758Abeloth, final villain of the old Star Wars canon.
She was a goddess who went insane after her family abandoned her and became obsessed with making everyone love her, which no one did because she was an unstable, clingy nutjob.
>>717055182Thank you, Jesus
>>717044975 (OP)>I didn't suffer, but I wish I did
>Why did you make us suffer?
>No reason. I just like doing things like that!
Wish media these days had more of these type of villains
Asides from Batman and Ironman
Is there a vidya example of the ultra rich CEO instead of being another Bob Page or Handsome Jack. Actually uses their unlimited wealth to make a utopia instead of dystopia?
>>717055182 >Get a free pass for heaven just saying *yeah sorry..* cause HE already died for your sins >Spent an eternity with all the scum of the earth including all people that made your life miserable. I can say nothing YABBA DABBA DOO. AMEN
>>717075983>I've suffered, but not nearly as much as a lot of other people out there.>I never asked to be privileged in this unjustice world, I'd rather destroy it all so nobody suffers ever again.>No, I don't think the happiness of most people is worth the suffering of all people
>>717072370>This never happens.This is very common in WoW
>Arthas>Illidan>Garrosh
>The villain is a little child with god powers
>"What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output."
-- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter"
>I will end all suffering
>I suffered and it made me stronger, I want others to grow stronger too
>>717091602based Chairman Yang quoter. a shame we've never got a modern era incarnation of alpha centauri. never been another game with its kind of soul
>>717068157Seymour is perfect
>>717081825Porky gets beaten by his (((dad))). His parents were those rich, smug, "you gotta be a strong boy so I'm gonna be an asshole" to you kind of parents. Porky is a kid whose environment pushed him into evil, as much as Ness's parents raised him with love.
>>717070385Can you explained what Satima was trying to say to Gaouru in the fight? What I got from it was that Garou had to play the monsters growing up, and came to identify them as heroes instead of bad guys. So be came a monster/bad guy to BE a hero.
I feel like I'm missing something though, so please correct me if I am.
>>717087863I feel like more games need villains who are simply evil. No grand plots or misjudged goals or ideals. Just "I'm strong, the strong should prosper and the weak should die"
>>717055182>Mankind proceeds to suffer immensely anyway Why did he do it bros?
>>717093907>What I got from it was that Garou had to play the monsters growing up, and came to identify them as heroes instead of bad guys. So be came a monster/bad guy to BE a hero.Yes, but the key point is that Garou was diverted to that route because being a true villain was a lot easier than becoming a true hero. When Saitama got dogpiled on, it rolled off on him because he simply wanted to be a hero. Things didn't need to be fair for him, he didn't need to be liked, and he didn't need any meaningful rewards. Garou got dogpiled on and it diverted the course of his life and warped his ideals. Being a hero was too hard, so he became an foe to create and support the existence of heroes.
>>717058213This is the most accurate depiction of evil IRL
>I've suffered due to my own actions, but I'll just pretend that suffering was inflicted on me for no reason, so I can make everyone else suffer tenfold
The suffering of others is not my concern.
>>717068157But Jack did suffer. Though he really falls into the Vayne category
>I'll suffer to free the world from being a dumping ground for darkness but I'll make the world suffer anyways so a bunch of guys can come beat my ass and end the suffering
>>717055182Atheist bros? Our response???
>>717098010Suffering is still a thing so no he didnt.
>>717055182THAT'S WHY HE'S THE MVP
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT
>>717097561That's Jack though, which is a different universe. NES Garland just wanted to fuck the princess and got his beat for it, but happened to fall into a time warp that gave him the power to cause mass suffering so just he would get the chance again to kill the guys who beat his ass.
>>717055182THEN WHY THE FUCK DO I STILL SUFFER
>>717100973Because you still have the freedom to make choices and you're choosing badly
>>717101310>be born to abusive parents>they use force to make my life hell as a child>Heh.... you should've just chosen a better life by accepting jesus as a kid :-)if there is a hell, i'll see you there.
>>717100973the quote is wrong, Jesus wanted to prove that even God can suffer on earth, but the rewards are infinitely worth it