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Anonymous No.717053741 >>717053832 >>717053876 >>717054058 >>717054093 >>717054620 >>717055580 >>717055598 >>717055789 >>717056708 >>717056764 >>717056821 >>717057013 >>717057276 >>717057326 >>717057787 >>717057856 >>717060423 >>717061931 >>717064550 >>717067315 >>717071785 >>717072080
>high fantasy game
>fortress in the sky area
>suddenly 1980s mecha
Anonymous No.717053832 >>717053930
>>717053741 (OP)
blame ultima
Anonymous No.717053876 >>717056554 >>717056713 >>717057679 >>717068175
>>717053741 (OP)
Man I miss when Final Fantasy was about FANTASY and not this bs futuristic crap.
Take me back...
Anonymous No.717053930 >>717054094 >>717054107
>>717053832
Why?
Anonymous No.717053947
You will fight the robot and you will enjoy it
Anonymous No.717054058 >>717055012 >>717055513 >>717057967 >>717058651 >>717059383
>>717053741 (OP)
>>fortress in the sky area

It was a space station in space. The remakes fucked it up.
Anonymous No.717054093
>>717053741 (OP)
bro I love Castle in the Sky how did you know???
Anonymous No.717054094 >>717070963
>>717053930
They were aping Ultima 1, game also ends with you going back in time to kill the big bad with a time machine and flying through outer space, stations and all. Also has a Star Wars speeder as a vehicle.
Anonymous No.717054107
>>717053930
Final Fantasy was inspired by Ultima hence the ultima spell, and they pulled this shit all the time
Anonymous No.717054173 >>717055976 >>717063705
>rare random encounter enemy is harder than anything else in the game
VGH.....THE SOVL.........................................
Anonymous No.717054258 >>717054345
i am a sucker for post-collapse of an advanced civ settings
i love them
i'm not sorry
Anonymous No.717054345 >>717062442
>>717054258
What's your favourites?
I liked FFX but I haven't played enough games like this
Anonymous No.717054419
Didn't even know this shitter had a rare encounter chance when I ran into him trying to beat the game for the first time as a kid. Got nuked. Grinded forever so I could beat him but he never appeared again.
Anonymous No.717054497 >>717054554 >>717054632
I remember there was just a dinosaur in this game. Like a T-Rex.
Anonymous No.717054554
>>717054497
Yeah, in the desert around the Mirage Tower.
Anonymous No.717054558
I love these ancient advanced civilization games. Shining Force was my first game that introduced me to this trope
Anonymous No.717054620
>>717053741 (OP)
there were hints of machinery throughout the entire game
Anonymous No.717054632
>>717054497
I didn't know those were in the older games I just remember the Jurassic Park under Balamb Garden in FF8 with Trexes and how some were in the forest outside of school and could fucking murder you
Anonymous No.717055012 >>717058558
>>717054058
SoP made it a space station again.
Anonymous No.717055513 >>717059035
>>717054058
The remake didn't fuck up anything, you're just seeing the planet below the space station.
Anonymous No.717055580
>>717053741 (OP)
The only classic FF game that doesn't have mech is III but everyone hates that game.
Anonymous No.717055598 >>717055656 >>717055801
>>717053741 (OP)
BEHOLD MY HUMAN LASER!
Anonymous No.717055656
>>717055598
heh
Anonymous No.717055789 >>717056113
>>717053741 (OP)
It's an ancient real world trope mainly pulled from the Greek idea of the golden age. Mythology, and the whole fantasy genre based on it, is founded on the idea that the world is continually decaying and falling further from grace. The ancients all had better technology, better ways of life, more intelligence, more knowledge, etc. It's even in LotR with the technology of Numenor and the elves. The elves tell the Fellowship that while they understand that humans refer to their crafts as magic, the term confuses them because it's simply their normal craftwork which is just inherently better because it comes from an earlier age. The Numenorean palantirs and stonework and such are the same thing. JRPGs just expanded that idea to include mechs.
Anonymous No.717055801
>>717055598
You sound like you grow hair all over your body in between acts of defecation
Anonymous No.717055976 >>717059597
>>717054173
>spend forever trying to get the the random encounter to happen
>end up leveling up so much that when I finally do encounter the enemy I beat it immediately.
Anonymous No.717056113 >>717056263 >>717056340
>>717055789
The Greeks believed that the world was materially different. Like how everthing in the universe has the five elements in them,(water, fire, air, earth and ether) things were just made up of magic back in the Mythic Age.

What did the Greeks call that time when Hercules lived?
Anonymous No.717056263 >>717056521
>>717056113
Wasn't it the age of heroes?
Anonymous No.717056340 >>717056398
>>717056113
>The Greeks believed that the world was materially different.


THE WORLD IS SQUARE
Anonymous No.717056398 >>717058619
>>717056340
>t. educated stupid
It's a CUBE
Anonymous No.717056521
>>717056263
Yeah. So, if the Heroes had magical, heavenly potential in them, then they can could actually achieve inhuman feats. Shits kino.
Anonymous No.717056554 >>717056626 >>717056659 >>717056768
>>717053876
It's worse than that modern Final Fantasy games are majorly erasing fantasy races from the games. The Moogles used to be a living species now they are simply stuffed toys in modern FF games. I think ironically the last time the Moogles were REAL were in Final Fantasy 7 Remake and that's because Final Fantasy 7 was the first FF game that deleted the moogles (for the original game they were fictional arcade game characters).

But yeah in general Final Fantasy has lost the fantasy. Even the new game feels like Game of Thrones which is drab lifeless depressing shit. I truly have no hope for the future of Final Fantasy.
Anonymous No.717056626 >>717056802
>>717056554
There's one (1) living moogle in FFXVI.
>and that's because Final Fantasy 7 was the first FF game that deleted the moogles
What about Choco/Mog materia?
Anonymous No.717056659 >>717056884
>>717056554
Actual retard
Anonymous No.717056708
>>717053741 (OP)
Insanely based.
Anonymous No.717056713
>>717053876
Ancient supertech is a fundamental part of the fantasy genre, normalfag.
Anonymous No.717056764 >>717056846 >>717071963
>>717053741 (OP)
Looks like toriyama kino
Anonymous No.717056768 >>717057014
>>717056554
Are you retarded? They are all over 9, 11, 12, 14, and there's even a real one in 16
Anonymous No.717056802 >>717056975 >>717057001
>>717056626
Summons don't really count as living characters in Final Fantasy 7's universe. Summons in FF7 are red materia some thing projecting an element's power. FF7's Summons aren't living beings like the ones form Final Fantasy 4 or 6. As such the Choco/Mog aren't truly real.

Anyway Final Fantasy in general has simply lost itself. I honestly fear what's coming next after FF7 Remake Part 3.
Anonymous No.717056821 >>717056846 >>717057054 >>717057070 >>717058545
>>717053741 (OP)
>1980s mecha
I don't think you know what a 1980s mecha is, tourist
Anonymous No.717056846
>>717056821
Poorly timed post >>717056764
Anonymous No.717056884 >>717057027
>>717056659
Explain yourself you shit eating faggot. You want to throw the insults but no discussion. That makes you a shit eater. Now explain how Final Fantasy hasn't lost its fantasy flair? Game of Thrones is one of the LEAST fantastical takes on the fantasy genre and FF16 is visually disgusting. Even the grittiness of FF Tactics is more colorful than that drab lifeless trash.
Anonymous No.717056975 >>717057102 >>717057128 >>717057309
>>717056802
I hope clair obscure shook them a little.
We might get 4 niggas in a row in a few years again.
Anonymous No.717057001 >>717057123
>>717056802
According to cut dialogue (that was used for FF7remake too) all the summons existed in the time of the Cetra, so moogles were always real just extinct.
Anonymous No.717057013
>>717053741 (OP)
>high fantasy game
>underground ruins area
>suddenly metroid facility
Anonymous No.717057014
>>717056768
That's the thing right there no one with standards counts shitty MMOs. And the ones from 12? Those don't even look like genuine Moogles they are midget rabbits basically. Don't fucking do that. Little tweaks to the designs are one thing but when everything looks so different can you truly call that the same species?
Anonymous No.717057027 >>717058345
>>717056884
FF16 had a moogle and plenty of chocobos, on top of the standard FF fare like dragons, tonberries, and behemoths.
What do you want?
Anonymous No.717057054 >>717066290
>>717056821
Gundam RX 79 is a 70s robot. That's why they called it 79. It's from 1979...
Anonymous No.717057070
>>717056821
0079
Anonymous No.717057102
>>717056975
Instead of action we should have had like 1000 niggas in a row by now
Anonymous No.717057123
>>717057001
The Moogles aren't truly extinct in FF7 Remake's reimagining rather they went to a different dimension and lived in their own exclusive universe where they don't suffer any persecution or threats but they are able to visit the human universe which is how Cloud encounters them. But that's FF7 Remake.
Anonymous No.717057128 >>717057282
>>717056975
The problem was never genre, the problem was those retards don't know how to design video games anymore and their only big success in the past several decades was a goddamn mmo
Anonymous No.717057270 >>717057320 >>717057338
I want a Final Fantasy mecha game so bad you have no idea.
Anonymous No.717057276 >>717057602
>>717053741 (OP)
>Stomps your entire party.
>Doesn't even care about you or ExDeath, it just wants Shinryu dead.
Omega is so cool.
Anonymous No.717057282 >>717057545
>>717057128
But it also doesn't help that their modern games still sell good. FF16 is the most criticized FF game and yet it sold good better than even games like FF9. So why should Square Enix stop and think? Their games still sell. And FF14 is had a nice good run scamming many idiots. The real question is again why should this company change their ways when their brands still continue repeatedly to sell good? I remember when FF13 was first released everyone hated the story and gameplay together and they still bought it. Gamers have the mentality of "This is awful but I will buy it anyway!" Don't know what else to say. Really sucks though.
Anonymous No.717057309
>>717056975
4 niggas in a row games are notoriously hard to get right. It's easy on the surface but because you can't rely on simple tactile moment to moment action to carry your game like in an FPS or action platformer, you need to make sure all your systems are top notch. More often than not you end up with dull games where you just spam your strongest attack and equip the gear with the highest stat until the game is over. Failing that you need a really compelling story or gimmick to carry the dull, rote gameplay.
Anonymous No.717057320 >>717057356 >>717057652
>>717057270
Look how fucking cool this is

Why game of thrones why the fuck would you want a ff like game
Anonymous No.717057326
>>717053741 (OP)
it's kino
Anonymous No.717057338 >>717057462
>>717057270
We already have Zone of the Enders Second Runner. You can't top that and sadly it sold awful.
Anonymous No.717057356 >>717057489 >>717057610
>>717057320
Old JP fantasy is so fucking kino, where did it all go so wrong?
Anonymous No.717057437
>70-80's era fantasy playing out tropes of 70-80's era fantasy
Anonymous No.717057462
>>717057338
I bought that remaster for 5 dollars the other day I had no idea it was that good what the fuck.

But I need robots and castles and biomechanical robots and magitek shit.
Anonymous No.717057489 >>717057574 >>717057672 >>717058158
>>717057356
I blame anime and Asian gaming going international. Gaining international popularity was the death blow at least in my opinion. Really miss the old stuff because I can't stand the modern trends especially as far as fantasy goes isekai is cancer. Yeah you got to be a LOSER and guess what because you are a LOSER who knows how to play video games you are magically a super chad alpha male in a random new fantasy world and inexplicably all the women are horny for your LOSER ass. Be a Loser and inexplicably be a winner.

I hate isekai so much. I wish death on the bastard who invented that genre.
Anonymous No.717057545 >>717057691 >>717058261
>>717057282
16 sold like shit compared to the other garbage they're pumping out
At least that might prompt them to actually give the next one real level and quest design, and more engaging combat mechanics than "dodge and do damage, fill up the damage meter to do more damage"
Anonymous No.717057574
>>717057489
Even old isekai was kino, like Escaflowne.
Anonymous No.717057602 >>717072075
>>717057276
Omega is the coolest in every game he's in
Especially 14
Anonymous No.717057610
>>717057356
For video games I think it's the constant chase for realism basically. Anime got really fucking samey and shit too.
Anonymous No.717057652 >>717057751
>>717057320
tbf there's a whole bunch of mecha rpgs. Like shitloads of them, especially if you count just sometimes featuring mechs. Pretty much all mech games pre-PS1 are rpgs or tactics.
Anonymous No.717057672 >>717057869 >>717058102 >>717058158 >>717072675
>>717057489
>I hate isekai so much. I wish death on the bastard who invented that genre.

Some of the first isekai was actually great.
Anonymous No.717057679 >>717057903
>>717053876
Wut its from the first game
Anonymous No.717057686 >>717058352 >>717060314
Escaflowne game when
Anonymous No.717057691
>>717057545
Hope so because I have to say I really hate the stagger and needing to break boss enemies mechanic. I blame FF13 for introducing that in particular. Even more annoying the whole breaking the boss element found itself in stuff like Kingdom Hearts 3. I don't want to break the boss' armor I want to deal damage directly already.
Anonymous No.717057751 >>717058158 >>717062670
>>717057652
What game is this and do you have any suggestions?

I already know of obvious stuff like Xenogears and stuff with robots like BoF4, Chrono Trigger and various final fantasies but nothing really before that.
Anonymous No.717057787 >>717057831 >>717057917 >>717057924 >>717057984
>>717053741 (OP)
I fucking love it! FF1, FF2, and the original Fire Emblem. I want to go back!
Anonymous No.717057831 >>717058571
>>717057787
Some SaGa games were pretty great for this too
Anonymous No.717057856
>>717053741 (OP)
It's almost as if Final Fantasy 1 was post post-apocalyptic.
Anonymous No.717057869
>>717057672
The best isekai from what I see has no harem anime archetypes and cliches. As soon as you see a female character randomly getting attracted to the stereotype loser protagonist you know its shit. I can rewatch old things about going to new worlds like the early Digimon series or Escaflowne even Magic Knight Rayearth but I can't tolerate garbage like Mukusoho Tensei doesn't help the protagonist is a literal degenerate child molester groomer. Look Asians love their loli bullshit but it doesn't make for a compelling hero. Even Edgar in Final Fantasy 6 never accepted the flirting of a little girl he actually respectfully hesitated and didn't go for that directly on the spot.
Anonymous No.717057903
>>717057679
that's the joke
Anonymous No.717057917
>>717057787
>thought Guy was holding a gun
>its the airship
Anonymous No.717057924 >>717057987 >>717058072
>>717057787
bro what the fuck is this
Anonymous No.717057967
>>717054058
I want a mod of DND Solosta that uses these maps and FF1 builds.
Anonymous No.717057984 >>717058070 >>717058119 >>717058267
>>717057787
Final Fantasy 2 is the one game I wish got a remake. I really find the concept of it more interesting than the real game. The idea that the Emperor conquered Hell and Heaven and managed to subdue the Deadly Sins and Arch Angels and that you have to travel to the afterlife to destroy him that's hella cool. A reimagining showing the realms of the circles of Heaven and Hell would be a peak final dungeon.

But Square Enix is never going to touch that game again.
Anonymous No.717057987
>>717057924
It looks like a gun but it's actually a crossbow, you can see the bolt sitting there on top. Amano is just kino.
Anonymous No.717058070 >>717058265 >>717058493 >>717058646
>>717057984
Stranger of Paradise II where you play as an amnesiac Mateus awakening in Hell and plowing your way through as he slowly remembers his plans for domination and decides he's going to usurp Satan.
Anonymous No.717058072
>>717057924
Its fucking awesome is what it is.
Anonymous No.717058102
>>717057672
Back when Isekai was -a- genre and not -the only- genre.
Anonymous No.717058119
>>717057984
No one remakes bad games. They just make shittier versions of good games.
Anonymous No.717058158 >>717058490 >>717058646
>>717057489
>>717057672
It's just the difference between using a certain kind of story, and relying on it as a crutch to make a completely pre-baked no thought setting. It's too easy to write and the tropey, stereotypical writing appeals the audience that wants to consume it like comfort food.
It's like how terminator is cool, but then there was a shitload of crappy robo-executioner type movies about a dude walking stiffly with a motorcycle helmet on that all sucked ass. Doesn't mean a robot from the future is a bad concept though.

>>717057751
I'm not a big jrpg guy, but I am a mecha fan and I keep getting burnt by finding cool designs and then it turns out to be an rpg for the pc98 or something. That one's Vain Dream but I can't find how much the mechs have any real presence in it though.
I recommend looking for artists that worked in games during that era, you can track their history. Kow yokoyama for example did a bunch of art for mecha tactics games, though usually more scifi. Also check out vanguard bandits.
Anonymous No.717058261
>>717057545
I absolutely loved 16 but the combat was beyond atrocious. First 15% when it was a souls game and melee mattered was the best FF though.
Anonymous No.717058265 >>717058493
>>717058070
That would be great bonus if you can show him fighting against the famous demons like Asmodeous, Leviathan, Mammon, Moloch, Belial etc. Of course the Deadly Sins themselves. You can do so much with Hell as a setting. The most interesting thing about the Emperor is that the reason he's so powerful is because his bloodline was cursed by Satan so in a twist of fate the Emperor is using demonic power and unleashing it right back onto the same entity that cursed him. It's similar to how Gobex used the Dark Crystal to fight against Zeromus but the difference is the Emperor does succeed at besting Satan.
Anonymous No.717058267 >>717058394
>>717057984
>Final Fantasy 2 is the one game I wish got a remake.
PS1, GBA, PSP
or do you mean a ground-up reconstruction with new math?
Anonymous No.717058310 >>717058819
Magic robots are so fucking cool god damn how did this even come out of someone's mind
Anonymous No.717058328 >>717058441
good-ass game
Anonymous No.717058345 >>717059480
>>717057027
elves, sylphs, gnomes and dwarves back
Anonymous No.717058352
>>717057686
Funniest part to me is how the emperor was right all along and these assholes did absolutely nothing but stop progress.
Anonymous No.717058394
>>717058267
Yes a full blown remake not touched up ports. Bonus if they make Firion a more compelling character. The Emperor is meant to be ambitious and Firion is his parallel a humble man. But we never see why Firion was suited to beat the Emperor especially given how strong the Emperor is.
Anonymous No.717058441 >>717071184
>>717058328
God Dissidia made him so fucking cool
Anonymous No.717058490
>>717058158
Thanks.
I have this on my list of games to play too since I keep seeing Cybuster pop up in modern games but never played an old SRW besides J.
Anonymous No.717058493 >>717058646
>>717058265
>>717058070
Square hire these men!
Anonymous No.717058545
>>717056821
lmao how embarrassing
Anonymous No.717058558
>>717055012
We can respect both Jack's strength and Jack's authenticity.
Anonymous No.717058571 >>717058687
>>717057831
I should try the romance saga's as a ff2 enjoyer. Just learned about them recently.
Anonymous No.717058619
>>717056398
Now we're straying from Ultima and getting into Might&Magic lore.
Anonymous No.717058629 >>717058706 >>717058816
I liked FFII more than IV
Anonymous No.717058646
>>717058493
>>717058158
>>717058070
Kek, wonder what buddy posted. He seemed non schizo and normal.
Anonymous No.717058651
>>717054058
It was a space station in the manga too.
Anonymous No.717058687
>>717058571
I heard 2 was really good and even its recent remake. I only ever played Frontier 1 though.
Anonymous No.717058706 >>717058853
>>717058629
Me too! I also rank 3>5, though both make top 5.
Anonymous No.717058816
>>717058629
its pretty even for me (i hate both)
Anonymous No.717058819 >>717059078 >>717059275 >>717072810
>>717058310
>how did this even come out of someone's mind
Amano's always been crazy good. Got his start at 15 as an artist on Speed Racer, character designer for Gachaman, and singlehandedly revived ukiyo-e art which was literally illegal in Japan at the time (banned during the Edo period because it was being used to mass produce porn)
basically he's been allowed to give life to every stray thought that ever popped into his head and his art is glorious for it
Anonymous No.717058853 >>717058974
>>717058706
Its hard for me to pick between 3 and 5. I really liked both. I will say Eternal Wind is my favorite overworld track of any FF
Anonymous No.717058974 >>717059918
>>717058853
3 is great, but its nowhere near 5. It doesn't have abilities, so there's not a whole lot of actual replay value other than to experience the cool setting again. The amount of seething the 3d remake causes is amazing, though.
Anonymous No.717059035 >>717059067
>>717055513
A castle in the clouds is actually very different from a space station in space
Anonymous No.717059067 >>717059201 >>717059264
>>717059035
The clouds are below because you're above the planet. What would you see if you were in a space station looking down? Clouds.
Anonymous No.717059078
>>717058819
>basically he's been allowed to give life to every stray thought that ever popped into his head and his art is glorious for it


Final Fantasy 17 should just recreate his character designs 1:1. And get someone who actually understands to make a worldfull of wonder and shit. Fuck it let Amano do that too. And somehow make it a good game.
Anonymous No.717059201
>>717059067
I would see clouds and ocean and continents, far, far below me surrounded by the black of space, below a technological space station
Not a fog of cloudcover just below and surrounding a sky castle
Anonymous No.717059264 >>717059338
>>717059067
Uhhh anon it's like a stone castle with no pressurized anything to keep air in from the vacuum of space. They're walking on the roof of it. And if a space station was this close to the clouds it would be in earth. They didn't even really make it look flying it looks more like it's really high up...
Anonymous No.717059275
>>717058819
>, and singlehandedly revived ukiyo-e art which was literally illegal in Japan at the time (banned during the Edo period because it was being used to mass produce porn)
I thought it was because of Shogun McArthur?
You know how 7/11s have gravure nowadays? Well back in the day, you could just find hardcore porn all over the place. The story I heard was that the Americans came in and got rid of that.
Anonymous No.717059338 >>717059383
>>717059264
I remember the original nes being like this too though?
Anonymous No.717059383
>>717059338
No it was like:
>>717054058


But Amano's art was this so I dont know what to believe. They only used his art as inspiration it's not actually 1:1 what it's supposed to be in game.
Anonymous No.717059480
>>717058345
>elves
They're in what, four or five games? Two of them being an easy player race in the MMOs. Hardly a staple
>Sylphs
Again, four games.
>Gnomes
Literally only in FF3
>Dwarves
These are the only things worth complaining about and even then they've always been an infrequent race

You don't play Final Fantasy and don't know what you're complaining about
Anonymous No.717059583
>retarded zoomers never heard of Expedition to Barrier Peaks.
Anonymous No.717059597
>>717055976
>critical hit!
>9 hits
>2943
>terminated
Anonymous No.717059918 >>717060192
>>717058974
>explore the floating continent
>get the airship and get to leave
>the world you knew is barely a speck on the map
kino
Anonymous No.717060035
>muh mech
>encountered inside a futuretech fucking base
Anonymous No.717060192
>>717059918
For any FFVIII fans out there, the map roughly aligns to FFIII's and the location of the Floating Continent is where the Undersea Research Facility is.
Anonymous No.717060314
>>717057686
God these mechs were so fucking cool.
Anonymous No.717060423 >>717060564
>>717053741 (OP)
Fighter
Monk
Red Mage
Black Mage
Anonymous No.717060564
>>717060423
based and literally me
>legendary weapon outdamaged by a naked man with his bare hands
now that's gaming
kino No.717061049 >>717061107 >>717061253 >>717062236
>high fantasy game
>final boss' floor fucking disintegrates and you're in the middle of space
Anonymous No.717061107
>>717061049
>its fantasy because space isn't real
holy...
Anonymous No.717061253
>>717061049
Looks like Chaos is just floating around sporting a massive boner with a goblin-faced sack
Anonymous No.717061881
Fantasy armor is at its best when it looks a bit like power armor, great era for it.
Anonymous No.717061931 >>717062036
>>717053741 (OP)
I don't see a problem
Anonymous No.717062036 >>717072404
>>717061931
I saw up her dress
Anonymous No.717062236
>>717061049
>literally goes back in time 2000 years to become space satan because you didn't let him just mind break a princess in his sex dungeon
Anonymous No.717062442
>>717054345
The best one will forever be might & magic
Anonymous No.717062670
>>717057751
I liked Front Mission 1 a lot. I believe it was the first of Square's FFT-style tactical RPGs so the gameplay is more than a little simplistic and broken. However, the mecha deisgns, story and music make it worth it. The story is especially kino if you play both campaigns included in the DS version. Sadly the rest of the Front Mission series has kind of awful storytelling, even though the gameplay was drastically improved. The mecha began to feel incidental as the games went on, while in 1 they were integral to the conflict.
Anonymous No.717063514
>game looks like high fantasy
>is actually the distant future and you can find modern technology as relics along with robots, factories, space stations, etc
Is there a more kino trope?
Anonymous No.717063705
>>717054173
He's a pussy. 1000 HP and his worst attack is what Lich opens the fight with 50% of the time during to ToF boss gauntlet. The hardest part is encountering him. Omega and Shinryu are the first real FF super bosses.
Anonymous No.717064550
>>717053741 (OP)
there's something about this thread that i find very off putting
Anonymous No.717066290
>>717057054
78*
Anonymous No.717066502
>this thread
Xenogears ruined Square
Anonymous No.717067315 >>717070323
>>717053741 (OP)
>High fantasy game
>Kingdom
>Suddenly it's a kingdom in the sky built above Tokyo

This fucking game took me for a ride.
Anonymous No.717067358
Anonymous No.717068175
>>717053876
FF has always had technology in it.
That was the entire point, they did it to seperate the series from Dragon Quest. They put airships and robots in it.
Anonymous No.717068369
>first time playing FF
>fighting my way to the boss
>warmech wipes me in 3 turns
>figure it's a mid boss since I encountered it in the middle of a narrow bridge
>last save was hours ago
>never play it again
Anonymous No.717069118
KILL LUFENIANS
BEHEAD LUFENIANS
THROW LUFENIAN CHILDREN INTO A WOODCHIPPER
ROUNDHOUSE KICK LUFENIANS
Anonymous No.717070323
>>717067315
>This, Etrian odyssey, and again in Metaphor

Atlus just can't help themselves can they?
Anonymous No.717070963 >>717071876
>>717054094
>Ultima
Reminder there was an era (surprisingly long) when Richard Garriot was considered one of the bigwigs of gaming. He had an Ultima themed mansion, there were contests in the 90s where the grand prize was meeting Richard Garriot in person.
Anonymous No.717071184 >>717071235
>>717058441
It's so fucking funny going through dissidia's 013 story where everyone has to have their character arc and struggles through, meanwhile WoL's chapter has him solo the most of chaos's warriors, doesn't have a single moment of angst or concern and even calls out cosmos on her bullshit.
Anonymous No.717071235
>>717071184
I replayed Dissidia after SoP and I thought it was funny how similar he actually is to Jack.
Anonymous No.717071785
>>717053741 (OP)
Prior to Etrian Odyssey 4, the games in the series are presented as bright, and colourful fantasy, but there isn't much in terms of high fantasy 'magical' content - your healers are medics, your Warmagus use drug concoctions, and your Alchemists utilize mechanical gauntlets that cast their spells. Paladins using a heal, and Hexers using curses (and manipulating kotodama) are outliers, but the majority of the other classes are pretty grounded. Come 4, though, they introduce weird stuff like Arcanists, and Runemasters, which are a lot harder to rationalize, and in 5, they add a straight up necromancer class that can spawn ghosts and shit.
The monsters are generally mutated wildlife, automatons, or the occasional animated statue, with undead creatures only becoming common place in 5. Like, there are ghosts in prior entries, but they're treated more like spooky mysteries of the labyrinth, that don't get much focus.
At the end of two, though, the final stratum of the main campaign is a giant space ship humanity used to leave the planet, because it had become inhospitable due to excess pollution. The final boss is a robotics-expert who uploaded his consciousness to a giant transforming mecha, and the 'grail of kings' you're seeking is actually a science mcguffin capable of genetic alteration. Except it's not his field of expertise, so he sucks at it, and all the bosses you fight in the labyrinth are actually genetic mutant failures, as he seeks to give humanity true eternal life. His heart is in the right place, and he even gives you the option to leave so he can continue his studies.

Fantasy turning having heavy science fiction is fun
Anonymous No.717071876
>>717070963
That era of home computer gaming is generally forgotten because rpgs and adventure games lost cultural relevance to the booming action game market in the early 90s,
and of course because video game culture doesn't really care about history.
Maybe it's a bit different in Japan because series like wizardry and dragon quest are still alive and they have a different relationship to pop culture.
Anonymous No.717071963
>>717056764
god i will always be mad we did not get a dieselpunk story from toriyama, his vehicle designs were all top notch
Anonymous No.717072075 >>717072151
>>717057602
>The non-proxy Omega in the FF MTG set is XIV version
>Same with Shinryu
It's cool seeing them get recognition when they're included in 14, but it drives me insane they overshadow the originals.
Fuck, give me MK II and Neo, then.
Anonymous No.717072080
>>717053741 (OP)
The best part of the OG Final Fantasy is that it had elements of D&D. I wish SE would look at FF1 as inspiration for their next mainline game, sort of like how Breath of the Wild reminds people of an evolution of the OG Zelda.
Anonymous No.717072151
>>717072075
Wait, nvm, I'm tripping - bro doesn't even get a proxy card lmaooo.
Anonymous No.717072404
>>717062036
She's actually wearing long white pants but the colouring is close enough to skin tone that people get confused.
Anonymous No.717072675
>>717057672
isekai to me isn't just "whisked away to another world" it's a deeper selection of tropes. people hate the oxymoronic term "native isekai" but it does a good job at painting the trope-y nature of the genre since we have works that use pretty much all of the modern isekai trope minus the actual iseaki trope.
also i hate american isekais even more, hollywood can't help itself from turning evere single live action adaptation into "the characters you recognize but in the real world!" or vice versa
Anonymous No.717072810
>>717058819
i was lucky to attend a museum exhibit in Rome with his art and it was wonderful. there's just so much life in every drawing he made.
it's like you imagine an entire world with every picture, it's insane