Worth it on console? Used to play the shit out of SWAT 4 back in the day, will I be disappointed?

ye

>>717064992 (OP)
On sale, yes.
Disappointed it's worse than S4 in every way? Yes.

>>717065451
>>717065502
Interesting, why's it worse?

>>717065842
i said yes you bot

>>717066029
Answer me reeeeeeeeeee

>>717065842
I have 100 hours in Swat 4. Backed RoN and played since the first alpha until first release.

RoN's campaign is barebones. You don't even get proper briefings before each mission.
AI is fucked. Everything from lowly gang bangers to paramilitary all have esp and will wallbang you like aimbots.
Map design is too large and too busy. Think of all the times you spent 20 minutes searching for the last evidence or hostage on Mount Thresholds. Now apply that to literally ever map in the game. Also has a side effect of breaking the team member and enemy AI.

Those are just my top 3 complaints. There's plenty more that may or may not have been fixed.

>>717064992 (OP)
i don't like FPS games but i love this one

environments are really well done
guns feel nice
each map has multiple routes
some RNG to keep things fresh

only con is too many suspects if you are playing solo and predictable enemy behavior

>>717066243
Sounds like I'm saving £50 then, fuck that shit

>>717064992 (OP)
I recommend you get on PC version so you can mod back in all the censored content and fix the enemy AI

>>717066462
No

Game glitches out, not letting me arrest suspects so i have to restart on my non lethal run. Happens quite frequently, and is extremely gay, maybe they should've fixed the bugs instead of censoring blood and stuff

>playing a shooter on console in 2020+5
There is no excuse for your ignorance.

>>717066439
I mean it's still a good game especially on sale. It's just if you're looking for the Swat 4 experience it doesn't scratch the itch.

>>717068058
I could afford a gaming PC but I spend most of every workday sat at a fucking PC so I got three consoles instead, is that okay with you your fucking lordship?

>>717066243
the game has flaws but all of what you mention has been fixed for a while.
Every mission has an in deep briefing with 911 calls, map and everything.
The AI is much slower and less accurate now (and it can be tweaked with the difficulty setting)
I'm with you with some maps being way to large, but you now have an "auto search" function once all civies and hostiles have been dealt with.
Big S4 fan here and i love RoN. I don't know if i'd get it on console though

>>717068357
Honestly I was just reading some steam discussions and people were saying not even 5 months ago the AI was still trash. If it got fixed VERY recently then good on the devs, but it's too little too late since it's been what, 3 years now?

this thread is made by a marketer, because I swear I've seen this exact same thread before many times, sloppy job panjeet ranjeshu

>>717068218
>is that okay with you your fucking lordship?
No. No, it is not.

>>717066243
>played since the first alpha until first release
>AI is fucked. Everything from lowly gang bangers to paramilitary all have esp and will wallbang you like aimbots.
i don't believe you. they nerfed the ai into the ground and the missions were braindead until they just recently added hard mode which brings it back to a reasonable level of difficulty

>>717069789
I'm literally just some fat guy in the UK trying to find something to do with his weekend but okay you fucking loser

>>717069789
>REEEEEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS I DON'T LIKE
kill yourself troon

>>717069789
Doesnt make sense since people are convincing others to not buy the game.

>>717070556
Pirate it and see for yourself if you want to buy it.
>>717070057
You like the exact same slide threads? You should be fired for shitting up this board.

>>717064992 (OP)
All I've gathered from recent threads is that PC players have bad aim and mask it by lying about how many hours of SWAT4 they played.

It's a perfect SWAT game.

>>717070831
>slide threads
>on /v/

>>717064992 (OP)
>Used to play the shit out of SWAT 4 back in the day, will I be disappointed?
Yeah, it's not as good as SWAT 4, especially with SEF, and makes no real improvements besides visual fidelity and gunplay on top of just feeling unfinished and frankly soulless at times. Like, I don't know if they ever improved it in a patch but just the police department you walk around in before missions has so little life in it that it's jarring and bizarre they'd even add it to the game like that. It's still an alright game but it's hard to recommend it on principle after they censored every version and downgraded PC graphics/gore to get it on consoles. It's one of those games where they'd get absolutely destroyed if they had any real competition but it's a niche game so they get to coast in and make bank off someone else's homework because there's nothing else coming out like it.
>>717066243
>Everything from lowly gang bangers to paramilitary all have esp and will wallbang you like aimbots.
A much bigger problem for me was always just that the AI was fucking suicidal. I can deal with them being crackshots on top of crackheads but you often feel less like you're playing a SWAT game and more like you're playing Rainbow Six because suspects act like they have zero regard for their own life.

I am the only one who feels that flashbangs are useless, unlike in SWAT 4? There are so much things in the room that I feel like the suspects are never affected by the flash

I pirated the pre-patch version of this game solely because of the censorship and I've yet to play it

I honestly can't decide but I have no self control so I'll probably buy it later and refund it if it's shit, thanks based Microsoft

>game literally downgraded the graphics on PC because of the console release
its so fucking sad and im just tired at this point.

>>717075060
Sounds like a decision made by an accounts dept to me. Maintaining 2+ versions of the game and hiring more to do so, versus single multi target build across more platforms for that sweet easy income.
Sad state of affairs but that's capitalism at work.

>>717075060
>muh graphics
I thought pc niggers cared more about performance and console niggers were the graphics babies.

I like the game and have hundreds of hours over multiple years. But would not buy the console version cause the devs are hacks that fuck up the game every other patch. On PC you can unfuck it yourself early with mods or downgrade to a stable version. Instead of having an unplayable game for months hoping the next patch fixes what they broke and doesn't make it worse.

I hate squad system. Fail mission? - dead team member. Restart mission - dead team member. They have zero character and they feel like pawns in chess. Replaceable with no personality at all. In S4 you recognize your swat member by their voice and way they talk. In RON they are just there.

>>717064992 (OP)
I hated they added stat tracking. Sometimes it was fun to just go into missions with meme loadouts. Niw you have to 'care' because otherwise you'll be booted from lobbies for not having good enough stats.

>>717072317
Yeah, nailed it. It's got the bones of a good game-they clearly *wanted* to recapture SWAT 4 vibes-but it’s like they tried replicating the dish without knowing what made it taste good to begin with. That pre-mission HQ area especially feels like a weird tech demo. No atmosphere, no mood, just rooms with nothing going on and NPCs that seem medically sedated. And the AI being suicidal is spot on, too. Instead of surrendering or holding position under threat, they peek corners like they're trying to speedrun death%. It's not a bad game by itself, but as a "spiritual successor" it really fumbles the soul.