Thread 717079120

I already got Starsiege installed. What else should I install on the virtual machine?

I think Vista wasn't that bad

>>717079120 (OP)
Chip's Challenge

Runescape
>t. a zoomer who has no concept of the internet back then and is just blind-guessing

>>717079120 (OP)
Project Nortubel

>on the virtual machine
should just use WINE and Linux on a flash drive, my negro

>>717079241
Steam Deck no likey wine, that's part of why I had to use 86Box. Was running into issues getting games like Heavy Gear to run.

>>717079187
Vista had really high spec requirements for its day right? Something about instability with older GPU cards iirc.

>>717079196
Sounds good
>>717079197
>>717079215
Not sure if those would run on Win98. Easier to run games of it's era.

>>717079382
Yes, Aero was pretty heavy and it was launched on hardware it should never ever have been put on.

>>717079382
Essentially yeah, for it's time the hardware requirements for Vista were pretty high, and a lot of prebuild manufacturers would sometimes mark their prebuilds as "Vista Ready" when the hardware inside them was woefully below spec. By the time 7 came out what was high spec requirements was now just your average spec so it had less issues with users.

>>717079120 (OP)
Any of the pre-Sims Sim games.
Mechwarrior 2

>>717079196
damn, that was a godly game
I need to replay it one day

>>717079553
>Any of the pre-Sims Sim games.
SimCity 3000 is the one that comes to mind, any others?
>Mechwarrior 2
You just know I'm installing the Pentium Edition as soon as I can.

>>717079120 (OP)
carmageddon, dungeon keeper, theme hospital, constructors, myst, discworld, simon the sorcerer, monkey island, leisure suit larry, etc

>>717079827
>Ricochet Xtreme
That's definitely one I need to install, I wonder how many of the old PopCap games would also run. Anything before Bejeweled 2 right?
>>717079820
I'm trying to keep DOS stuff somewhat separate. I have a Dosbox-X folder for all of that stuff. Theme Hospital and Carmageddon could probably go onto the virtual machine.

>>717079120 (OP)
>Starsiege
You need more?

>>717079820
>anon hasn't discovered ScummVM
Why not the stuff you can't run on modern Windows?

>>717080338
Well... no but... I just do okay?

>>717079827
nigga, you forgot Bermuda Syndrome and Creep Night Pinball

>>717080523
I want CDE as my windows 10 shell

yes

>>717080523
Desu I kinda find CDE a little ugly, but then again all Linux environments were kinda ugly back then. If I ran linux back then I would have rocked KDE.

>>717079337
>Steam Deck no likey wine,
What do you think Proton even is you fucking mongreloid

ENTER

>>717080836
Already tried that too. Wine + DXVK still wouldn't run the titles I wanted. At this point a virtual machine is just easier.

What video driver are you using?

>>717083195
On 86Box? Right now I have s3 ViRGE/DX selected. But I have a feeling I should really be using Voodoo emulation right now.

>>717083450
I'm just curious because on more modern versions of VMware support of 9x sucks, and VirtualBox is about as bad or worse depending on specific versions being compared. And you can't really run a modern VMware with something like v8 in parallel. I guess it's time to finally rip the bandaid off and set up something like that. I remember QEMU and Bochs being somewhat popular years ago but they had some flaws that prevented me from trying them. IIRC 86Box is the only really usable thing now for decent emulation of older Windows versions, but I only read like 2 articles about that also a few years ago.

>>717079120 (OP)
bonzai buddy

>>717079120 (OP)
rollercoaster 1 + 2 and their DLC. (use open rct though
Transport tycoon (again use open)
Whatever worms game you like the most.

>>717083882
If you're wanting a straight up CPU accurate emulation machine of the Win9x era then 86Box is your ticket. You could also dick around with ancient Linux distros like Slackware or Red Hat if you wanted too as well. The only issue is that you get one configurable machine out of the box, so you'll likely want a manager program of some kind or multiple config files if you plan on running multiple virtual machines. Also it is CPU accurate meaning that it will eat your resources just to get a Pentium 120 accurately emulated. VMware might still be better if you run really resource intensive games.

>>717084182
Figures. Every such discussion reminds me of the foolishness of giving away my old PCs.

>>717079187
It was only bad for retards who were trying to run it on 6+ year old hardware.

>>717080338
>Tribes
fuck you for killing Earthsiege

>>717079187
I love vista like you niggas wouldn't believe. No other OS had that much soul in its ui

>>717080736
>all Linux environments were kinda ugly back then
they're at their ugliest right now imo

>>717087439
I think Cinnamon looks alright. I don't know what the fuck is going on with Gnome these days.

>>717087883
i hate cinnamon, gnome is even worse. flat design in general looks like bleach in almost any case. rocked with e16 last time i used linux, glad it still gets occasional patches so it runs on modern systems

>>717088398
Desu I think I gravitate towards the flat design more. I grew up with the Aero/Mac OS X style of everything looking like a shiny glass bubble and I don't really want to go back. Something that is missing from the modern flat stuff though is hard edges. Everything being smoothed out is lame. That or you get the Windows 10 look of everything being two shades of colors max. I think what makes Win9x and early KDE still look good to me is the 3D grey boxes and occasional blue gradient at the top of a program. It's not overdoing it with effects but not completely boring minimalism either.

>>717087883
>I don't know what the fuck is going on with Gnome these days.
Some retard looked at Android and said
>yup, that's what desktop users need
It's so fucking stupid and I hate it

>>717079382
Vista was fucked by third party drivers being incredibly shit during the first few years, plus oem manufacturers demanding Microsoft to let them slap a "Vista Ready" sticker on shitty Celerons with 512mb of RAM, which resulted in three minutes long boot time on your average notebook.
By the time SP2 came out, it was pretty stable. Win7 was great from the start because third party drivers were no longer a bsod fest.

>>717079120 (OP)
Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper 2
>>717088558
>Win98 PC
>DVD writer

Nightmare Creatures

>>717088558

Jokes on you I still use my 1995 case
It jus works

>>717079827
>>717079120 (OP)
back when "My Computer" really was your computer and not just "This PC"

>>717089673
You can change the name of the shortcut, anon.

>>717089816
i know, that's not the point...

>>717089673
imbecile

>>717079120 (OP)
It's kinda crazy how bloated modern Windows has become, when it just needed a few megabytes back in the day:
https://archive.org/details/micro95_3mb

>>717089875
>my computer era
can do what you want with it, it's actually yours
>this pc era
botnet shit galore (that you can "disable" with 3rd party tools or block with firewalls i know, still not the point)
it reveals microshaft's change in business model

>>717089960
That bloat is what keeps normalfags coming back I guess. Copilot is a necessity.

>>717079120 (OP)
3D Ultra Minigolf

>>717080862
back when GUIs actually had visual elements and weren't just borderless bluish-grey webshit divs

>>717079120 (OP)
>virtual machine
I use 86Box since it's more convenient

>>717090371
Is 86Box not a virtual machine? I'm using the same thing. Something that's frustrating about it right now though is that it keeps crashing when I try to swap image files. I think it's a specific linux bug. It's going to make multi CD installs impossible though.

>>717090493
I think 86Box is closer to an emulator than VM software

>>717087883
I wish people would make some more retro themes for it. I know there's the XP theme, but I would prefer a 95/98/2000/ME theme, maybe try something inspired by the Mac OS 7-9's UI, fuck, anything that would predate the new millennium. Maybe I should've gone with XFCE.

>>717090564
It's the same thing. A VM is an emulator. It emulates real hardware.

>>717090493
It's an emulator
Dunno, swapping images works just fine for me

>>717090947
>Dunno, swapping images works just fine for me
Are you a linuxfag too? Maybe its the flatpak version I installed.

>>717090940
>A VM is an emulator. It emulates real hardware.
No
VM usually means it runs with hypervisor that passthroughs CPU cores and provide some other virtualized drivers (block devices, graphics) while emulator fully software emulates underlying system.

>>717090940
A VM is a contained OS that uses a fraction of your system resources. You can emulate certain pieces of hardware on your VM, but VMs don't emulate anything by default.

>>717091293
>>717091314
>In computing, a virtual machine (VM) is the virtualization or emulation of a computer system. Virtual machines are based on computer architectures and provide the functionality of a physical computer. Their implementations may involve specialized hardware, software, or a combination of the two. Virtual machines differ and are organized by their function, shown here:
>...
>A 'virtual machine' was originally defined by Popek and Goldberg as "an efficient, isolated duplicate of a real computer machine."[2] Current use includes virtual machines that have no direct correspondence to any real hardware.[3] The physical, "real-world" hardware running the VM is generally referred to as the 'host', and the virtual machine emulated on that machine is generally referred to as the 'guest'. A host can emulate several guests, each of which can emulate different operating systems and hardware platforms.

>In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest). An emulator typically enables the host system to run software or use peripheral devices designed for the guest system. Emulation refers to the ability of a computer program in an electronic device to emulate (or imitate) another program or device.
>Comparison with hardware virtualization
>Hardware virtualization is the virtualization of computers as complete hardware platforms, certain logical abstractions of their components, or only the functionality required to run various operating systems. Virtualization hides the physical characteristics of a computing platform from the users, presenting instead an abstract computing platform.[27][28] At its origins, the software that controlled virtualization was called a "control program", but the terms "hypervisor" or "virtual machine monitor" became preferred over time.[29] Each hypervisor can manage or run multiple virtual machines.