> Orion (Home Console)
- Chiplet Design, with some mention of possibly utilising "Navi 5" Desktop chiplets.
- Backwards compatibility to PS5 and PS4 generations (No mention of PS3).
- Heavy emphasis on cost constraints, and keeping power lower than PS5.
- Manufacturing planned for Mid-2027, with a likely Fall 2027 or Early-2028 release date.
- 160W TBP
- 8x Zen 6 (or later) Cores
- 40-48 RDNA5 Compute Units @3GHz+
- 160-bit or 192-bit bus w/GDDR7 @32GT/s+-
- Rasterisation Performance estimated to be ~3x PS5 (Ray Tracing uplift expected to be higher)
- 3nm
- smaller design than PS5
> Canis (Handheld)
- Monolithic 3nm Die
- Backwards compatibility to PS5 and PS4 generations (no mention of PS3).
- Includes MicroSD slot, M.2 SSD slot, Haptic Vibration, Dual Mics, and a Touchscreen.
- USB-C port with video out capabilities
- Manufacturing planned for Mid-2027, with a likely Fall-2027 or Early-2028 release date.
- 15W TBP
- 4x Zen 6c Cores
- 12-20 RDNA5 Compute Units @1.6-2GHz
- 128-bit bus w/ LPDDR5X-7500+
- Rasterisation performance expected to be ~0.5x PS5 (RT expected to be higher than this).
- should beat XBOX Ally X but doesn't come across as a powerhouse.
>>717082178 (OP)Any detail on price?
>>717082418- PS6 expected to be $600-$650.
- Handheld expected to be $400.
so they'll have the same problem xbox has today, but the lower spec machine is portable
genius
>>717082178 (OP)The power consumption with the performance upgrade is lowkey impressive.
>>717082178 (OP)What about videogames?
>3x performance of PS5
nope.
>>717082863Oh, youre one of THOSE people who pretend non-1st party games aren't real games.
Outing yourself as a tendie.
>>717082178 (OP)onion and cunnies
>>717082178 (OP)Finally, a sony handheld. Nintendo must be shaking in their boots right now lol
Fakest PS6 post yet.
Might as well say that PS6 comes with a holographic projector. That would be just as realistic.
Also anyone who says it will be under $700 is full of shit.
>>717082178 (OP)>Backwards compatibilityImagine believing this lmao. Why would they do that if they can just sell you a remaster of every game yet again. Everyone's okay with this apparently
>>717083334Just say you don't understand the data
>>717083391>Sony losing money on any hardware after the PS3If you believe OP's lie yo should be cut off from the internet forever.
>>717083210No mention in the presentation I saw.
>No mention of PS3
It's never going to happen at this point, will it?
>>717083294Tendies are already praying it's fake ITT kek.
>>717083071>>717083583cope snoy piss5 has no games
>Tendies are already praying it's fake ITT kek.
If you have to rebuy digital games for the handheld itโs over
>>717082178 (OP)>>717083529You saw no presentation, autist. You're reposting guesswork from a MLID youtube video.
>>717083210More complex packaging which comes at a huge premium for the desktop and enterprise segments will never be used in a commodity device
Video games? Any video games?
>>717085069I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean, what are those vimeo gates you're talking about? this is a sony playstation thread
>>717085069some enhanced ports of ps5 enhanced ports of ps4 multiplatform games for $99
they were doing so well with ps4.
what happened ?
>graphifiggs
95% people can't even tell the difference between ps4 pro and 5 versions without looking digital faggotry videos
>>717085069the last of us remaster, remake, tv edition with pedro pascal
Is this gonna be another console sold at a loss that makes no money and nobody buys?
>>717083334It's a MLID leak. Not like the guy is always right but I'm confident this one is true.
What's so unrealistic about the leak?
>>717085727>what happened ?yoshida explained it pretty well, the budgets increased again for minimal returns making their ps4 strategy of releasing big blockbuster single player games unsustainable
this is why they desperately tried to get their own gaas hit to get infinite fortnite money, I don't see how a new even more powerful system is supposed to change anything to this situation but who cares anyway they're a third party dev now
>>717085906Yes. He does actually have contacts at AMD. He also leaked PS5 Pro and PSSR details in the past in videos, which snoy took down.
>>717085990No he doesn't you ignorant underage fuckup. Like every other twitter fraud he just reposts things he sees people posting about on Anandtech, TPU, and OCN.
>>717082863what about them, ninpedojeet?
>>717082178 (OP)So I guess the handheld isnโt supposed to be a standalone console like previous leaks were saying
>>717085964if i was them i would've asled pump out SP ps4 games but with 60 fps
even lesser know stuff like Days gone sold 10milion copies
>>717085069Last of Us Part 2 Remaster
Goy of War Remaster
Horizon Remaster
Spiderman Remaster
>>717082514now add like $200 to each
>>717086073He's a youtube "fraud", not a twitter one.
I saw the PS5 Pro and PSSR video when it came out retard. It featured internal AMD slides and was taken down by sony.
Please post proof that those slides were available on the internet before his video was posted. Or the Intel Arc Alchemist GPU render he put out, for example.
Not even saying MLID doesn't ever exaggerate the information he has access to through massive speculation sometimes. But he does talk to people at AMD and Intel, this is pretty well known.
>>717083542the powa of the cell...
can't wait for another generation of upscaled 720p 30fps
go and buy it, goycattle
>>717085964didn't they still make a ton from hardware/services? / thirdparty ports
maybe they should just stop blowing millions on vanity projects
>>717082178 (OP)Lemme guess, digital only, disc drive made for those lucky first 1000 scalpers and then out of supply for years?
>>717086110It's a PS6 Portable. It will target a small fraction of the standard PS6 resolution for use on a small handheld screen. I imagine they'll also release a PS6 Lite with the portable SoC for a cheaper price, for people who use smaller lower resolution televisions and monitors.
>>717086482they have huge revenue but little profits
>>717082178 (OP)>z2e will be beat by next generation of amd chipsWow!!!
>>717086110They cant support 1 console with games, you expect them to support 2?
>>717085964Fun fact: It did not work during ps4 era either.
>>717086110did you just like not remember the psp/vita?
>nuh uh they had lots of games
>>717084663you say that but x3D is now on some laptops, which have even less options on cooling
also that would require sony and lazy devs to refine their OS, kernels and games for extra l3 utilization
>>717087223Hey, retard: 3D V-Cache is used in one product line in the mobile segment, and that product line is LITERALLY desktop chips that are being put into $2000 to $3000 mobile workstations. Literally the exact same desktop package just put into a laptop. No mainstream APU has 3D V-Cache, not even the high end Strix Halo.
>>717086508great, another bottlenecked generation, just like the current one with series s
>>717082178 (OP)PS6 will be digital only?
>>717087398What genius game idea could be made on PS6 that couldn't be made on PS6 Portable?
>>717082178 (OP)PS6 is not hardware anymore, it will be an app.
>>717086683I donโt, but it might be pretty funny if japanese devs end up prioritizing the handheld version for their games because the psp and vita were pretty popular over there
>>717087438the handheld definitely will unless they can figure out a way for discs to run on it
>>717087520>120 gig discs Doubt.
Im interested to see how they deal with digital rights. If I buy the physical version of the game for the ps6, can I play a digital version on my handheld ? Or am I forced to go all digital if I want to use both devices.
>>717087372>workstationthose are chonker laptops; workstation implies an immovable setup and wall plug;
but i digress, x3d on mobile is still unfortunately a pipe dream since efficiency is top priority now for this segment hence the APUning
>>717086095>b-but nintendo!like clockwork
>>717087398Good, devs should learn to optimize their shit
>>717087639I donโt think the disc thing is possible either but it seems like an all-digital handheld would be a hard sell to anyone with a bunch of ps4/ps5 discs if they donโt work
>>717087639also, for the digital rights I would imagine it would be something similar to how buying certain games on the ps store gives you a copy for both ps4 and ps5 versions
>Specs are a PS5 Pro sidegrade at best
>Expecting people to buy two consoles to barely emulate a fraction of what the Switch and Switch 2 can do
>Just as, if not more, expensive than the Xbox ROG Ally
>Does absolutely nothing new that the PS5 can't do already
>>717087438probably have you connect the ps5 disc drive or a new one
if it's for installing they could just make it a usbc external thing
>>717084306Not really. It just means more multiplats for Nintendo.
>>717087398they really need to loosen the standards if they're doing a gimped 2ndary platform
treat it like steamdeck; if it runs it runs or rely on sony for hardware/eventually os improvements
and just have it run like 480-720p upscaled to 1080p30
>>717087639they never figured this out, during vita era some games let you have a download if you bought the physical console version
guess they could do it like how bluray/digital bundles went, though they would have to have some way to verify you still have the disc after sometime
nintendo seems to have gone backwards
>snoys have to create Imaginary consoles to play because they dont have games
>>717087639>Or am I forced to go all digital if I want to use both devices.Digital is probably going to be the default and they'll allow an add-on for physical discs. Sony and Microsoft have wanted to phase out physical since last gen.
A digital only handheld is DOA.
>>717089807lol, this isn't 2005 anymre grandpa
>>717082178 (OP)I would buy the handheld. Fuck the console though.
>>717085964If only they didn't get rid of Japan Studios.
Unless they have a sequel to dragons dogma, free online, a new iteration of sengoku basara, Bloodborne 2 but with DMC-lite combat, and backwards compatibility they can take their paper weight and jam it up their ass
>>717087398As Anon said, devs should learn to optimize their games. And consoles are boring. There's no room for innovation with consoles anymore.
>devs should optimize the blackbox ue5 engine that is shit
>>717090170>Unless they have a sequel to dragons dogmaI have some bad news for you anon..
>>717090039Same. I hope the handheld isnโt called the ps6 though.
>>717090682thankfully it will be called the PS6 Portable
>>717082178 (OP)I ain't buying it until my value of the PS5 Pro is satisfied. Fuck Sony for doing live service slop and ruining their own brand by going multiplat like retards. The PS5 will go down as the console that will be supported 6 years after Sony releases the PS6. Hell the PS4 is still being supported. Sony fucked yo hard with abandoning this gen harder then the PSvita.
Compared to the PS1, PS2, PS3, or even PS4. Is any Playstation fan actually happy with the PS5?
That it's already being replaced by the PS6, while having accomplished so little. Is anyone happy?
>>717091162The PS5 generation started once they stopped doing multigen games which was like, what? Last year?
>>717085964>the budgets increased againThe industry keeps regurgitating this stuff as if it's inevitable. And not just choices made by executives and boardrooms.
It's because executives and leads want super big bonuses and investors want huge ups and downs on the stock value. So project trends bigger and bigger.
But none of that is needed, important, or even helpful for actual success. If anything the broader market would suggest that it's downright counter productive to success.
>>717091162Even former sony employees think sony is retarded
>>717082178 (OP)>zen 6 cores>rdna5>releases late 2027 or early 2028>sony intends for it to be a cheaper console>op is stupid enough to think this is a legit leakare snoys actually this dumb? you arent getting rdna5 and zen 6 in a cost focused console, you would actually have to be brain damaged to think thats on the table for a 2027/2028 console
you'll get zen 3 or zen 4 and rdna 3 or 4 and it'll still cost as much as a ps5 pro. consoles havent been on the bleeding edge in over 20 years at this point and the ps6 wont be changing that
>>717091563Amazing how Playstation has actively worked against pretty much every point he lists.
>>717091769With the tariffs Sony would honestly be stupid to try to go for a powerful console in 2027-2028. It'd cost too much and for what? They don't have to seriously compete with Xbox anymore and trying to compete with power vs PC is a lost battle. The only questionable decision is the handheld which might end up blowing up in their faces
>>717089807Handheld without dedicated software is DOA (see Vita).
It will either only play gimped, decade old PS5 games, or they'll gimp PS6 games to be playable on it which would mean they are also playable on PS5 making PS6 pointless
>>717091391I think this year is when they officially stopped because they didnโt put their mlb game on ps4 and I think third parties have stopped making ps4 versions too
>>717092042You can forget about dedicated software, Sony puts all their games on PC which means their games are already on PC handhelds. Sony's given up on releasing exclusives. What they want is their own Fortnite game and temporary exclusives at best.
>>717091162this entire generation was stillborn, glad nintendo started gen 10 early
>>717092182>What they want is their own Fortnite gameAny day now.
>>717092021if i was them id just keep the ps5 for a decade and force devs to actually optimize their shit.
i have fond memories of the psp (and the vita to a lesser extent) so i wouldn't mind a new portable but they're going to have to actually put games on it to attract the switch and pc handheld audiences since
a bunch of third party ports on a handheld isn't exactly that unique now
>>717092551the only one of those that sounds interesting is the media molecule one
>>717082178 (OP)Just depends on the price. If it's low enough, I'd upgrade from my PS5 at launch. Say, $500. if it's over $600 or $700, I may just ride out my PS5 for as long as I can.
DESU, I could probably skip the entire PS6 generation and just stick to the PS5 since I expect most games to be cross-gen. But I wouldn't mind an upgrade after 7 years of my PS5. Then in 2030, I'll upgrade to a proper gaming PC, though probably only mid-range one.
>>717092665Sony's releasing PS6 for their own sake, not others. They've soon hit the ceiling with PS5
>>717092749have they done anything since dreams on the ps4? I always liked the little big planet games
>>717092836I donโt think theyโve done anything since dreams
>>717092809Get ready to ride your PS5 until the PS7 comes out.
>>717091162it was the covid console
never had any exclusives (besides demon souls remake)
even less happy with the ps5p
>>717082178 (OP)Games? No? As I thought
>>717092021doesn't matter already had a certain spec in mind
would cost more to cancel midstream
>>717089807Idk the Switch 2 is doing well
>>717092042it's a luxury item for manchildren to play a gimped version on a portable on their couch infront of their tv with ps6
>>717093164Switch 2 has physical, you're confused or dumb.
>>717093214physical empty boxes alright
>>717092985I kind of don't expect a PS7. It's just a question of if I want to play games with better performance and graphics or not. And whatever convenience features the PS6 has. Though, I may relent eventually and just get a PS6, because I don't expect the PS5 to last that long without hardware problems eventually cropping up. But kind of hard to plan these things a decade in advance. Meh, we'll see how things go.
>>717093280So you think a $600-800 digital handheld only from Sony with zero exclusives is gonna sell?
>>717093602The PS5 sold more than it deserved with zero games. It would do well.
>>717093602yeah
people bought the portal
>>717091769PS5 and Xbox Series S and X came out with RDNA 2 (at the time RDNA 2 was coming out) and Zen 2 (at the time Zen 3 was coming out)
Both RDNA 5/UDNA and Zen 6 will be coming out late 2026/early 2027. The console is supposedly aiming for a late 2027-early 2028 release. What is so ridiculous about this?
>>717093738PS5 HAD exclusives and most of their games wasn't on PC. Now Sony is gonna have zero exclusives with their multiplat strategy.
>>717093786At least the Portal was "cheap" and they didn't have to pay for any games, a dedicated handheld is completely different and costs a lot more.
>>717082863Games don't resell no mo mein. Let me tell ya.
Forget about the games.
These consoles are so much more capable than the seventh gen that it's hard to actually comprehend, yet none of them are anymore substantial than the fucking Dreamcast.
The gaming industry deserves to crash.
>>717082514>cheaper than a Steam Deck OLED while being more powerful than an Ally Xlol, lmao
>>717092182I think their initial plan was to bet everything on getting a Fortnite-level live service game, bow out of the hardware race then ride their big live-service game while they start on making a new one to carry them a decade later.
>>717093842yes much like any handheld released in modern times it has to leverage existing library
no one will make exclusives (especially not handheld exclusives unless they're paid for timed exclusive)
they aren't trying to undercut nintendo and make a cheap android tablet (portal) so it has to be expensive luxury thing as peripheral
>>717093896>nooo they have to take a massive loss trust me
>>717094125The goal of the handheld seems to be in trying to keep part of their audience from getting a Switch 2 but all it's going to do is incentivize more 3rd parties to make Switch 2 games.
>>717092284Nintendo making Gen 9 not unsalvageable with the Switch.
>>717094198It's going to be $600 minimum. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the handheld costs almost as much as the PS6 console.
>>717094198Kek, Sony dont take loss in the hardware since the ps4
>>717093835the ps5 and xbox are more like rdna1.5, they dont have the full rdna2 featureset
>>717093896It's years away.
That anon is bullshitting but the price could indeed be $399-$499
>>717093973As long as they can keep selling around 50 million they're stay in the race I think. Ironically COD/sports is the only reason why they're still here. But I think it's all downhill for Sony. Their platform has only become worse for multimedia, worse for gaming, all the anti-consumer moves that media loves to never talk about or even mention.
>>717094557@grok is this true?
Talk to me when they bring back Ape Escape and Gravity Rush
>- Backwards compatibility to PS5 and PS4 generations (No mention of PS3).
im gonna translate this:
>you will have to re-buy your ps5 and ps4 games AGAIN and re re rebuy your ps2 ps3 remasters again
there
>>717082514>PS6 expected to be $600-$650.Actually in your hands it will cost you 800-900 euros.
>>717094857PS5 Pro is already a grand. And Sony fanboys are surprised when people are leaving Playstation behind lol
>>717095281I think even snoys aren't mentally prepared for how much the PS6 console and handheld are going to cost.
>>717094857Yeah, there no away thats ps6 will cost less than of ps5pro
>>717095281>>717095435https://www.coolblue.nl/product/955502/playstation-5-pro-disc-drive.html
Damn. What the actual fuck.
>>717082178 (OP)>CanisJoder chaval mira que locura tรญo, me llevo a las nenas y te robรณ tus joros uhhhh!
>>717092081>I think third parties have stopped making ps4 versions tooLOL
>>717095403if the handheld costs as much as the ps5 pro that would be hilarious
>>717096489total board power
>>717096489Total board power
>>717096428Hilarious but depressing.
That'll be $900 plus $15 every month to play online.
>>717095281Is 599 in my country
>>717085964What ever to them anyway? I was told they had like 20 in the pipeline. Was concord the only one?
The fact that OP isn't bothered about people believing them and hasn't replied to every negative response makes me believe this more tbqh
>>717097667Its the MLID fanfiction thats was posted 2 days ago
I hope the handheld isnโt useless if you donโt have a ps6 as well like the portal
>>717097173There 20 in the pipeline, but after concord fiasco all except marathon and fairgames are cancellled.
>>717082178 (OP)>Canis can be docked and emulate tendies slopAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>717098089Anyone believe anything from that faggot needs to be forced into the electric chair. Clearly they're too fucking retarded to stay alive.
Ok but the more important question is when they will shut down the ps3 and vita psn stores
>>717099436When people stop buying stuff.
>>717098783Can I screenshot this so I can use it once the PS6 (home console + handheld console) is announced in a couple of years?
>>717099739knowing my luck if I ever decided to get a vita sony would shut it down the day after
>>717097173What happened he asks, watch this
>>717098360Kek, time to cancel the switch 2 and port your faggy games to the cheaper and far superior handheld lest you go bankrupt.
>>71710058012 live service games
>>717100797And then there were none
>>717082574pretty clear games from now on will be 60fps minimum, which might not sound like much to the tech illiterate retard, but if the handheld is made with 30fps in mind then you're quite literally cutting the resources needed in half. On top of that the screen might be like 800p or 1080p, effectively cutting the resources needed to run the game even further. That mean the handheld only needs to be at least 1/3 as powerful as a PS6 to be able to run the same games.
>>717082514Bullshit and that's not a leak or a rumor, that's just Moore's Law is Dead's speculation. Given that Sony will upgrade both specs. The PS6 Orion will be $650-$700 while the PS6 Canis will be $550-$600. We're talking about AI upscaling, Ray tracing, tariffs, stronger than the Xbox Series S for Canis, and having better performance and RT than the PS5 Pro for Orion. You're not getting consoles cheaper than the Pro or Switch 2, not even cheaper than the Steam Deck 2 ($500).
>>717082574Yup, Moore's Law is Dead somehow believes that by moving people away from the PS4/Xbone, it would save the next generation.
>>717083334This, they can't do that, no matter how much they try to bring the cost down. the PS4 is not repeatable, it won't be more than the PS5 Pro, but it sure as hell won't be under it either.
>>717083583Not really, people just don't understand why it exist when you're porting your games to the Nintendo Switch 2, optimizing your games for the Steam Deck, and then the upcoming Steam Deck 2. Why even make your own handheld when the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 will have all of your games and more?
>>717085727California took over in 2016.
>>717083583Same as usual.
>>717101154How would it save the next generation when PCs and Nintendo still exist?
>>717093214Game key cards are not physical.
>>717087438I can see it being $650 digital, $700 disc drive.
>>717083334Putting aside whether the information is real/accurate or not, how many games do you think will take advantage of a $700 PS6 console versus a $500 PS6 console? I'm not sure people care that much anymore for better graphics. The people who do care about graphics are spending $1000 for just a GPU and over $2000 for a PC rig to get those graphics. A console isn't of interest to them.
>>717101584That's up to the companies. CP2077 is physical
>>717101561>>717101561That's the thing, MLID doesn't know shit, he may have leaks, but his speculation is trash just like all the rest. You have to think about this stuff realistically, but none of these insiders do that.
>>717101756Every single game shown off in that direct is a game key card. The Switch 2 is effectively a full digital console.
>>717101829It's funny, when Sony and Xbox release fully digital consoles nobody says anything.
>canis
>plays everything except the sloppiest gay furry porn and Nazi shit that you can only find on steam
>all Xbox trash is already day one on PS5
>Switch slop works just fine on the steam deck so it will perform even better on the canis
>3rd party totally skipped Nintendo leaving mentally ill tendietrannies stuck in an endless larping loop where they pretend you only need a Scamtendo 2 to "play" games (switch 2 is weaker than PS Vita KWAB)
Holy shit, someone needs to stop Sony from winning so much!
>>717101701>lower price than the ps5 pro>doubtRemember the alleged price of Xbox Rog?
Maybe it will be cheaper than the xbox rog.
More competition the better, but to be honest here, I donโt believe the price.
>>717101971It's a choice, Shitendo gives you the option to buy digital or digital in a plastic box and idiots like you eat it all up and ask for more.
>>717102340Or game on cart.
>expecting anything to run PS5 games portably for under $600
>sony trying their handheld against Nintendo AGAIN, while the ally and deck already do AAA titles
>PS6 will be around the cost of a ps5 pro
Lol
Lmao even
I hate that PS3 basically has no backwards compatibility not just on PS4 and PS5 but now PS6. I get it's a hassle, but there's so many games stuck back on the PS3 that aren't even on the PS4 and it fucking sucks ass.
Yeah I can play most of them on PC I guess, but I have older PS3 games I never got the platinum trophies on that I can't anymore because I haven't owned a PS3 in over a decade now and would have to go buy one just to play my older games again.
Fuck sony
>>717102289Xbox ROG isn't subsidized, But if Sony is gonna start putting more and more games on Xbox/Switch 2 then I don't get Sony's long-term strategy here at all. Why would anyone buy PS6 or their handheld when you can play their games on Nintendo or PC? It's actually baffling
>>717102545Tendie is scared LMAO
>>717102545Wait, doesnโt SIE is a US company now?
They canโt sell the hardware as lost, since it hurt the Shareholders profit.
Annon time to invest on SIE stock cause it a win-win either this is true and Sony gain more market, or you can make class action like the Dodge vs Ford.
>>717102809Itโs to please the shareholders I guess.
Since dodge vs Ford is applicable to them now.
>>717083542It's the Saturn of Sony consoles
>>717083542I mean, in 2006 everyone owned a PS2 so like why would anyone want a PS3 without le online service
>>717102931Good for you Annon
>>717102809It's easy, Nintendo is not getting shit nor can that useless tablet run anything and PC doesn't have physical nor can you play PS' library on PC.
We really should be worrying about Nintendo, the switch is fucking useless, the quantity of threads with switch games running on the Canis are going to break you.
>>717098194>Marathon>FairgamesLETS GET THOSE GAME LOSSES UP TO 3 BILLION BABY!!!!!!!
SNOY DEVS CANT MAKE GOOD GAMES!!!!
>>717103243The fact Nintendo is getting live service games + sports games etc is actually really bad for Sony. It all starts with something. Nintendo didn't have those games for a looooong time
Its really sad that a lot of you fags like live service games unironically.
Is this just a contrarian psyop or something? I can name maybe 1 or 2 actually decent live service games. The rest I just roll my eyes at. Advertisment games.
>>717103481>B-But Le Fortnite machine (Sony owns 5.4% of Epic)Loool
>>717104040lol. I bet it was take-two, they're greedier than anyone else
>play live service slop on a Switch
>>717104282The funniest thing is the guy I heard that played Fortnite on Switch 1 but it proves a point. Some people only buy one gaming platform and don't have anything else.
>>717104040Switch 2 has no games (literally)
>>717104358Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza immediately proving you wrong there, buddy.
the portable will be a ps5 portable not a ps6 one
sony will make all their exclusives run on both ps5 and ps6 just like how almost all of this gen still has ps4 versions
>free to play live service games
Kek, meanwhile dinky donk flopped.
I'm sure 3rd party devs have seen how well cyberpunk performed on Nintendo's strongest market, no one's in hurry to make Switch 2 versions, most can't for hw reasons.
Why would anyone get a PS6 Canis over a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2?
>>717103481The fact that Battlefield 6 skipped the switch 2 is really bad for Nintendo, it all starts with something. Nintendo won't these games for a looooog time.
>>717104852Its a handheld that will exist to appeal to 80 million people stuck in the playstation ecosphere because all their games are on there, a secondary device
>>717104515There's a 50% sale on Funkopops at your local walmart bro, you don't want to miss out!!
>>717104997Why do you think BF6 matters so much?
>They've already forgotten about game freak making a AAA game and skipping the Switch 2
>>717105078So, it has no appeal at all?
>>717104852Because your PS4-PS5-PS6 games will all work on it. It will have the 3rd party support and better graphics that the Switch 2 won't have and it will have the consistent quality and assurance that Steamdeck will never have. You gotta love the dozens of Steamdeck "verified" games that look and run like complete and utter unplayable shit, that will never happen on Sony's portable because games will be made with it in mind from the start.
>>717104997>Snoys trying to paint Trannyfield 6 skipping Switch 2 as badMPtrannies need the bullet
ps5 is releasing a low power mode soon (the opposite of ps5 pro mode) and it seems to be a beta test for the handheld
>>717105319>Because your PS4-PS5-PS6 games will all work on itWhat games?
>It will have the 3rd party support and better graphics that the Switch 2 won't have and it will have the consistent quality and assurance that Steamdeck will never have. You gotta love the dozens of Steamdeck "verified" games that look and run like complete and utter unplayable shit, that will never happen on Sony's portable because games will be made with it in mind from the startThis means nothing since the Switch 2 will be getting even more third party support and the Steam Deck 2 is getting a proper console launch in which Valve will be giving it console-level marketing, retail store sales, and significantly better dev support, so you should expect Steam Verified to appear a lot when the Steam Deck 2 comes around. The PS6 handheld being more powerful than the Switch 2 and the Steam Deck 2 will be a detriment to its price. Switch 2, $450, Steam Deck 2, $500, PS6 handheld, $600.
>>717105360>We have the live slopperoo and sports games but not really Holy cope, tendies will still be playing MK8 in 2030 while the rest of the world has already moved on from GTA6.
>>717105724Enjoy needing to verify your age in your live service multiplayer slop.
>>717105676you sound so fucking scared
>>717105928Scared of what?
>>717105676>This means nothing since the Switch 2 will be getting even more third party support500 games announced in 2025, there's like a dozen switch ports. Lil bro thinks larping is real life.
Xbox series x was unironcally the better console this generation. Simply because of backwards compatibility and game pass.
No one gives a shit about PS4/PS5 games. All the good games are on 7th gen.
Tendies and Snoys arguing over their equally shit games thread
>>717106017>he thinks this won't be happeningWhy would anyone get this if you can just get Sony's shit on cheaper products?
>>717094654>>717094557Xbox is full RDNA2, PS5 is RDNA1 with some of 2's features like ray tracing.
>>717106074steamfag smugly entering the thread while he has a 20 year old mmo open and a idle cookie clicker on the side
>>717106040The Xbox Series was so bad it killed the Xbox, kek.
>wont have custom Sony chip
Oof
>>717106040phil was right when he said losing the ps4 generation killed xbox, nobody wants to leave their games behind
>>717106176Because it didn't market to the "low income crowd" as much.
Obviously it didn't sell but objectively it was the better console for players this gen.
>>717106216That shit is going to cost $700 without the disc drive then. Valve can keep theirs down with a semi-custom chip.
>>717106173Even if that was true at least I didn't pay $60-$120 yearly + tip to use my internet that you also have to pay for.
>Console customization? Very unkosher, they could put hate speech on their PS5 backdrop!! Remove it permanently!>Giant wall of ads for bad games like niggermanball27 when you turn on the system, VERY KOSHER!!!!
>>717106240Just typical Phil cope. The average console buyer buys trash and leaves that behind in a second without thinking about it
>>717106240Yes, but that statement only makes sense because of the state of the western world today.
It's not a coincidence that the same thing is happening to the movie industry.
My point is that if bangers were still coming out today as much as they were in the 2000s no one would give a shit about old games.
>>717102289The PS5 Pro is overpriced as fuck. You can already buy it used for $500 on Ebay. PSSR for the most part has been a fail and the CPU is heavily bottlenecking the GPU, so devs can't even get that much use out of it either.
>>717105412it's so the liquid metal in the system doesnt leak and brick systems.
Why are tendies so scared? Does anyone genuinely believe that a real gamer is going to pay $1000 to play multiplayer games on a Switch 2?
A PS5 is cheaper than a Switch 2, what makes anyone that isn't a dirty pajeet think that a PS handheld would be more expensive than a Switch 2?
people are going to get some serious burns from the ps6 handheld if the ps5 melting fightsticks is any indication.
>>717106958jeets are snoys
>>717100797why not hire chinese to gachaslope
>>717082178 (OP)Fuck Microsoft, fuck Valve and especially fuck Nintendo for this fake handheld trend.
>>717102931now post them software sales...
>>717107252Fuck you, this is a Nintendo/Valve market. Everyone else can fuck right off.
>>717107128>Sony taking over China and India Kek, over 3 billion people.
Meanwhile Nintendo goes bankrupt!
>>717107436>having chinks and jeets is greatriiiiiiight
>>717082863>Sony>videogamesHuh?
>>717082178 (OP)>Rasterisation Performance estimated to be ~3x PS5 (Ray Tracing uplift expected to be higher)>160wLiterally impossible. Hope for 5070/9070 performance at best for $800 at 250ish watts.
>>717105079Sounds like something you'd be all over, so no thanks.
>>717100946It's very likely to have PSSR or even FSR4. Just have a 30fps graphics mode and 60fps performance mode with upscaling or even frame gen
So, it's barely any better than the PS5 Pro?
>>717083389They can put out less games if they can sell you on your older games running better and at a higher frame rate. Plus, they can keep selling PS4 and PS5 games and STILL upcharge you for the new PS6 patch. Also, it's on the same architecture, why wouldn't they continue to do backwards compatibility if 99% of the games will work natively?
Sometimes I wonder about you anon.
>>717103189Plenty of games stuck on it. PS6 should be more than strong enough to have some sort of emulation working on it considering a few fans are making one that doesn't require that much horsepower on PC. Sony made the fucking console, they could easily cook up a 100% accurate emulator that plays games pretty much natively at higher resolutions and framerates
>>717087520Have a dock or custom accessory that reads discs
>>717108142This would be the same price as the Pro, how would this be any lower than $700? I also can't see the handheld costing less than $600.
I think that its a matter of time before the gaming industry dies.
Even with games like gta6 coming out there's this underlying vibe of low interest starting to brew even among the normies consumers.
I think that the best course of action in the coming years will be to buy a low budget PC with a 4090 because of the Nvidia physx problems with the 5000 cards.
>>717097173>Helldivers 2Doing okay
>ConcordGame and studio shutdown
>Fairgame$Postponed to 2026 (will flop anyway)
>MarathonPostponed indefinitely (original release date was September 23rd 2025)
>Guerilla's Horizon projectStill in the works
>NCSoft's Horizon MMOCancelled (allegedly)
>The Last of Us MPCancelled amid layoffs
>Twisted Metal ProjectCancelled amid layoffs
>Insomniac's Spiderman MP gameCancelled amid layoffs
>PS London's projectStudio shutdown
>Deviation's projectStudio shutdown
>Bluepoint's God of War projectCancelled
>Bend Studio's projectCancelled
>>717108689>I think that its a matter of time before the AAA gaming industry diesI know and that's a good thing
Based OP dropping the info then leaving.
Only a retard would argue with a /v/ user.
>>717108920We'll go back to PC and Nintendo games as the standard.
>>717108998>copying youtube faggot moore's law is dead's wishful thinking and bullshit into the OP of your thread is "based"Fucking delusional nigger.
>>717083210X3Ds have heat issues that i don't think a console would be able to handle
>>717108920Indies are just as bad as AAA. Which is ironic since they were supposed to save the gaming industry.
Sure I think this industry needs to crash but thats what I was saying back in 2016.
It's too late now. All of the talent is retiring.
I may be wrong though. Maybe china gets their shit together and starts pumping out bangers. lol
>>717109001UAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
>>717108485because it's nearly the same specs 2 years from now lmao
>>717109410>Indies are just as bad as AAAGive it time, these things always happened, in a pole of shit always sits one piece of gold.
>china lmao
>>717109434It's over for Sony, isn't it?
>>717107839>Ninpedo bragging about money (31 > 8) while showing us how much of a disgusting pedophile he isClassic Ninjew.
>>717082178 (OP)Cant play all ps3.ps2 ps1.PSP.PSV games.
Into the trash it goes.
>>717108998OP know tendies are terrified, there's no point in entertaining their delusions.
>>717109425This but unironically.
>>717094810The Nintendo way? Sony ain't that horrible.
>>717109803Terrified of what?
>>717109410>It's too late now. All of the talent is retiring.Or working at Nintendo.
>>717082178 (OP)>console that's smaller than a ps5 with 3x the performance at a lower priceholy fucking fake leak cope
>>717109393The thermal transfer through the added L3 slab isn't really an issue, vs regular desktop SKUs the X3D chips only have a clock regression of a couple hundred mhz. Much less of an issue in a console part with paltry clocks to begin with. Cost is the issue. You're not going to see truly premium features in a system selling for $500 to $700, thats still entry level laptop tier. More complex packaging decreases yields and these systems, even if sold at a loss initially, are intended to be profitable once volume truly ramps. BOM wise the APU will probably be $150ish.
>>717110459Working on slop? GAME FREAK really said fuck Nintendo and made a multiplat game and skipped the switch 2, their own partner studio is done with them!
You can tell when the local snoy has found a thread.
>>717110653>lower price PS5 is 350ยฃ
PS6 is ยฃ600
What???
>>717111079Nintendo fans live rent free in his head as usual too.
>>717110793No idea what you're trying to imply here when they'll happily be back for Gen 10 Pokรฉmon.
>>717112276Because they co-own pokemon with Nintendo, they own the new IP and decided to skip the switch 2.
>>717111079Everyone can tell when Olรญmpio starts spamming screenshots and lying about PS5 price and games.
You are beyond scared.
>>717112717Which doesn't really say anything about the overall quality of the new IP or about Game Freak's relationship to Nintendo whatsoever.
>>717083542You want PS3 games on the PS6?
>>717113024Everyone can tell when you're beyond terrified because your attempts at misdirection gets even worse than your usual terrible standards.
>>717111834Wouldn't that be really good on a low power handheld?
>>717108689>I think that its a matter of time before the gaming industry dies.
>>717113589Based. My lil bro loves Roblox.
>>717101058>Steam Deck 2 ($500).What? There's no Steam Deck 2.
>>717101058Nintendo are greedy. Not hard to beat them on price.
>>717114138>ps5 is more expensive literally everywhere else in the world>pro is $700>no but see the handheld will cost less then $450 and be able to play ps5 games!Lmao
>>717087520Sony tried on psp
>>717113162Speaking of PS3, has anyone seen how the sports slop looks on the switch 2? Legit PS2/3 visuals lol.
>>717114138They already did.
PS5 with Astro bot - $399
Switch 1 - $399
Switch 2 - $499
>>717114698Based; those visuals were the best!
>>717102931Vita means life :)
>>717114449Ps5 is 350 in my country while Switch 2 is 500
>>717114865Astro Bot bundle looks like it's $564 though.
https://www.walmart.com/browse/video-games/playstation-5-ps5-consoles/2636_5170403_3475115_2762884
>>717114995And the Wii U means KWAB :)
>>717115368So Vita means KWAB as well then. :)
>>717082178 (OP)>160W TBPVery impressive
>>717117060Thats pretty close to what the PS4 and base PS were to begin with.
>>717117490Yeah but with a lot more power. The efficiency is crazy.
>>717082178 (OP)>Making the PS6 weaker than the PS5Lmao sure, that's how they get the few cultists they have left to drop them for good
>>717118413How did you derive this from the OP? Genuinely curious.
next-gen is gonna be great
ps6 is a weak traditional console
xChads get a mini-gaming PC
Why should I care about PS6, when the steam station (Xbox) is coming next?
>>717117060A power draw like that with the performance MLID claims would be literally impossible.
>>717114000Steam Deck 2's been talked about for a while even by Valve, come on now, man.
>>717114138Sony is more greedy than Nintendo.
>>717118316Yeah, new arch and more than a full node shrink. Not that crazy.
>>717093896The 'eck is 3 years old already, time to move on.
>>717120330What did they say and how do you know how much it will cost?
>>717117490 True, but the wattage isn't the full story. The PS4 was chugging along at 1.84 TFLOPs and barely holding 1080p on most games. If this thing is hitting RDNA 4 levels of performance at similar power draw, that's nuts. We're talking DLSS-style upscaling, VRR everywhere, maybe even frame-gen. Power budget might be the same, but what theyโre squeezing out of it is worlds apart.
>>717119872Even then that's still totally retarded, there's a reason only simpletons watch MLID
It's not even confirmed to be udna, for all anybody knows it's rdna4 with some udna backported like rdna1/2 for the ps5
>>717121538You are missing the point entirely. Medusa Point launches next year. Even compared to current Strix Halo this is nothing. There is nothing impressive about (the fake) specs posted in the OP.
>>717082178 (OP)Chiplets, when will they learn?
>>717082178 (OP)>those handheld specs It's gonna be the size of the Switch, isn't it?
>>717082178 (OP)The next generation is the fucking DLSS/FSR generation. It's so fucking over for game optimization.
>>717121598AMD confirmed the next generation consoles are using RDNA5/UDNA
>>717082178 (OP)>3x the performance of a ps5yeah sure thing fucko
>>717122791PC killed gaming.
>>717122874How is this that surprising? Its coming out in late 2027 or early 2028.
>>717122874PS4 to PS5 was an almost 10x boost btw
>>717117060Come on. Do you really believe that? My guess in reality it be more like 400-600.
TBP is like car ads saying WLTP.
>>717108312You're dumb and don't understand marketing. NEW remaster will always sell better than some 10 year old game with a patch. And it'll sell for full price. People will make reviews of the remaster, people will make comparison videos and argue about them. If it's just a patch nobody will give a fuck, you can't market a patch
>>717123085Just fucking google it, kid. Consoles draw under 200w. There are US and EU regulations pressuring them to keep it low.
>>717118736For just $1200 and no backward compatibility
>>717122852Give me a link then
>>717122961They're going to do like 4080 or 5070ti tier performance on a console budget at 160w? They can't charge like $1300 for a gaynigger station
>>717123014More like 4.5x/5x
>>717123164Wow, you're right. Thanks for clarifying.
I just have this false memory in me where I remember the Xbox drawing 350 put apparently that's the power supplier.
Fair enough.
>>717121370They said they were waiting for a chip that balanced performance and efficiency, meaning waiting for Zen 6 RDNA 5. Valve will subsidize it with the Steam Store, bumping up the 30%, Steam Controller 2, Deckard, and SteamOS while giving it console-level marketing and selling it in retailers. It'll probably be as strong as an Xbox Series S so weaker than the PS6 handheld meaning a lower price point for them to stay competitive. I'm also expecting Valve to pull a Nintendo and launch with LCD instead of OLED.
The 160W thing is likely true because AMD has been working quite lot on power efficiency with its new chips.
Additionally, SONY require low power to meet the EU requirements AND allow for long term server blade usage.
I would like to remind anyone that is still reading this late into the thread that this same nigger predicted the ps5 being like 2x more powerful than it actually was.
>>717082514why are you making shit up? If you had the price from the beginning you would have posted it in the OP
>>717123907Racism isnt allowed outside of /b/
>>717123574I wonder if it's even worth it if I already own a Deck if it's just a portable Series S. I hoped for more. Like Elden Ring at max settings at stable 60fps more.
>>717123910On a specs sheet? Are you even reading your words before posting.
>>717123934Racism is 4chan culture, deal with it you filthy black.
>>717123934Faggotry is not allowed outside of plebbit.
>>717083583It's pretty much confirmed they're developing a handheld anon, everyone is expecting to see just how hard it will bomb this time.
>>717086685Yeah this must be it considering all their games are coming out on the PS4 too, therefore there's no need for bigger budgets when all you have to do is make a PS4 games with more resolution and framerate. Still stuff like Spiderman 2 was like 4 times more expensive than the first game, for no reason, and they decided to make it even more risky by adding a ton of woke shit in it.
>>717123486Yeah the power bricks are always over provisioned, peak AC to DC conversion happens at around 50 to 75 percent of the supply's rated wattage.
>>717123971It'll be able to play UE5 games and RE Engine games, it'll also be able to hit 60 FPS more often along with playing id Tech games. They'll stop verifying games for the original Steam Deck.
>>717100797Concord, Fairgames and Marathon seem extremely redundant specially in that short amount of time, they can't think of anything else for a live service game other than a first person shooter?
>>717107201It's like they hate money or something, spent billions making these retarded woke shooters and lose everything.
Like they could just make a gacha with hot anime girls and get rich immediately.
>>717124323>It'll be able to play UE5 games and RE Engine games, it'll also be able to hit 60 FPS more often along with playing id Tech gamesI don't give a shit about any of this, in fact I despise those games. I pretty much only care about From Software when it comes to AAA.
>>717124034It's been more ridiculous considering the consoles are out on 2027 and the price is the last thing they decide on.
>PS6 LEAK
>IT WILL BE MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PS5 LOOK AT THESE WEIRD SPECS!!!!!!!!
no wayyyyyyyyyyyy fuuuuuuck
>>717124569Switch 2 can currently play games the Steam Deck can't, it needs stronger hardware that way it'll be future proof to no longer need to upgrade except for an OLED screen.
>>717124849Yeah but I'd rather wait and get a Deck 3 if no games that I want to play that my Deck 1 can't play come out.
FS and Fumito Ueda are the only ones that will force my hand, I'd get a system just for their games, no one else.
>>717085727And them having to zoom in an image 200x to see one is slightly blurrier than the other.
>>717082178 (OP)>>717082514>BC with PS5>power lower than PS5>emphasis on cost constraints>$600-$650
>>717082514>price set 2y awayaaaand it's fake
>>717082178 (OP)Too soon. Put it off until 2029-2030
>>717126456Cost constraints refer to power consumption. More efficient chips and moving from 5nm to 3nm will lead to equal power at less consumption.
>>717102139>snoy >winningLmao
>>717102931Psp didnt outsold the Gba
Could you imagine if the Canis was also a portable Bluray player? probably too smart for sony though.
>>717092809Might as well wait for the Steam Deck 2. You get Sony games and PC/Steam games. It'd be cheaper too.
>>717106530Yes but it unironically means the Pro will end up running better
>>717094314By the time this comes out, the Switch 2 would have a new Mario 3D game, a mainline Pokemon game, new Zelda, and a new Animal Crossing game. That's not even brining up a Switch 2 OLED and Lite version. I don't see anyone who's interested in a Switch 2 getting an even more expensive handheld that has no real exclusives. This will only cater to the more hardcore Sony fanboys.
>>717094771Sony seems to have no interest in their older IP's. But they have no problem now licensing them out. Hopefully the Patapon game and Everybody's Golf do well for NamcoBandai that they look into getting more of Sony's older IP's. Interesting to note that Everybody's Golf game that is coming out is a new game not a port.
>>717126601>expected That means target
>>717131236Jesus fucking Christ
>>717130304If anyone could do it, it would be Sony. They own Bluray.
>>717130304bruh what... They don't even include a disc drive for their console now lol
>>717082178 (OP)>Specfag threadAs long as PS hq is still in California, I don't care
You can all be BeTtEr MeN if you want, but until gaming turns around, the PS4 will be my last Sony system
Cool, but are they gonna have any video games?
>Snoys are saying the PS6 Orion will be $600
Remind me again, what happened the last time Snoys said the PS5 Pro would be $600?
If I buy this it is 100% based on how it looks. If I can get the modern art abomination PS5 out of my house and keep all my games, super. If it's of similar or greater offense to my eyes, ez skip.
I'm so sorry I talked shit about Black Rhomboid.
>>717134608They're deluding themselves, also canis more powerful than the rog ally but cheaper
>>717134983>modern art abomination PS5What makes you think thats the PS6 will not be worse than the PS5?
>>717130304>12 cm disc in a handheld How?
>>717131505gravity rush collection on switch 2 will finally give kat the home she deserves
>>717082514That's not how shit works anymore.
silicon prices don't go down with time.
The PS5 pro is made in 3nm, and it costs $700
PS6 with these specs would cost at least $1200
>>717134076It's also a delusion made by someone not used to the Jensen's law yet.
>>717135872PS5 Pro is 4nm
>>717126456Based and Nintendo pilled
>>717082178 (OP)>160-bit or 192-bit bus w/GDDR7 @32GT/sHow much VRAM for this bus?
>>717135848If they release this on Switch 2, I'll come to Steam too, meaning it'll be playable on Deck 2, can't wait.
>>717135872What a retard you are. Prices of everything go down with volume, and the PS5 Pro is currently selling at a profit. Strix Halo systems selling for $1600 starting with 32GB of RAM are selling with huge profit margins still.
>>717082178 (OP)So just like how the rx580 I had bridged two console generations so my 3090 will as well. Not surprised, why do people keep saying PC gaming is expensive?
>>717082178 (OP)Ok, fuck you, let me invent an actually interesting PS6.
-CPU: same exact shit as the PS5, it's good enough (with the stuff i'm doing below)
-Memory: 20GB
-ASIC IDCT engine. ASIC dedicated to decode JPEG-like images at at least 100GB/s, fills a 256MB cache in the GPU that can be accessed independently of the main VRAM
-ASIC Vertex shader to BVH system: basically it allows you to do all the raytracing shit without having to do a BVH tree on the CPU, which is a pretty big bottleneck on the current systems.
-ASIC FSR4. Basically FSR4 but in sillicon, so it runs fast and don't need a shitload of AI compute.
-Cell Jr.: dedicated Cell processor to allow the system to have full retro-compatibility with the PS1,PS2 and PS3 systems.
>>7171375891500 US DOLLARS
>>717137589>Cell Jr.: dedicated Cell processor to allow the system to have full retro-compatibility with the PS1,PS2 and PS3 systems.Only ps3, ps2 need the EE+GS
>>717137756My beaten up, screenless intel CPU macbook with linux shoved on it can emulate PS2.
>>717137693That's the fun part, it's cheap because everything is ASIC.
Right now our GPUs are basically just running a bunch of programs so you use a shitload more transistors for each of these operations when it's even possible.
The IDCT engine i described for example is probably not possible.
Also it is a rip off of a PS1 component.