Thread 717086062

Is it me or the people in rdr1 seems more insane than rdr2?

Yeah old rockstar had the balls

Yes, that was the intended tone.

rdr characters are all larger than life. the tonal shift to rdr2 where everyone is more grounded is weird and frankly boring. i don't care about like 70 percent of the gang because they are just bland.

>>717086062 (OP)
dunno about more insane, but it definitely had more of that weird west vibe

>>717086062 (OP)
yes you're supposed to laugh at all the strangers
https://youtu.be/NXuAqtUtHh0?si=Nf2tAxTexcMHFxWO

they ate babies in 1

>>717086062 (OP)
Real life Southerners are even trashier than that. Trashy ass backwards culture. But it's the most genuine American culture, better than the faux royalty and ethnic conclaves of the North. I'm not even American, but I love American history.

>>717086062 (OP)
dumb esl

>>717087021
Point at my mistake so I could learn from them

>>717086062 (OP)
RDR1 is further in the timeline. You're dealing mostly with the stragglers that managed to escape death in RDR2. They're going insane due to being closer to societal irrelevance.

>>717086623
How come Arthur is the main one who gets memed on for being weirdly inclusive for the time period when John also mocks Herbert's racist rant?

>>717087321
because 2 is on PC and thus has more players

>>717087321
>expecting consistency from culture warriors
John would get the same memes due to the feminist talk with bonnie or sympathizing with the mexican revolutionaries, but RDR1 came out before things were gay and retarded so it gets a pass

>>717087321
John disengages from the conversation with tact instead of starting a multible minute unskippable cutscene about the prosperity globalism has created for this country and the benefits of the gay lifestyle.

>>717087541
I had a feeling it was a timing thing. You're right that John would've gotten the same reception here if 1 came out more recently.

>>717087321
John also agrees with Bonnie when she says a woman would probably lead the country better than the men have

>>717087667
Which Arthur also never does

>>717087541
Ironic since the game is about a dying era.

>>717087321
>expecting zoomers to actually play the games
they get their opinions from video essays and "based" tiktok edits

>>717087395
>2 is on PC
Just like 1.

>>717088964
only recently

>>717088848
The video essay creators don't seem to play the games either

PC version of RDR1 has bugged sound fx on horseback. But most people didn't even notice so it never got fixed. Drives me up the wall.

>>717086793
Berries! WE EAT FUCKING BERRIES YOU IGNORANT MURDEROUS BASTARD!

GTA was always a zany over-the-top comedy, and RDR1 followed suit. RDR2, on the other hand, followed TLOU (and perhaps LA Noire, to be more charitable) by trying to be grounded

>>717089624
LA Noire has much better writing

>>717089624
rdr2 is pretty zany too except for the last chapter and the ending

>>717089596
You eat babies

>>717089624
RDR2 has plenty of goofy zany moments, like when you go out drinking when Lenny

>>717087321
>being weirdly inclusive
But... he's not? I'm literally playing right now and he just seems too low iq to care about anything.

>>717086062 (OP)
it's just not woke like rdr2

>>717089425
yeah... the menu sound is also fucked up. But devs won't do shit, since most people don't care about it.

>>717087321
It was a different time unironically

probably. they just copied the over-the-top shitty style of GTA IV again. 7th gen really set R* of David down the path of cinematic slopfests.

Im playing rd2 rn and why the hell did they make the game so easy?

>>717086468
the worst part is that even the gang members from the first game barely get fleshed out at all in 2, other than Dutch himself
>Javier betrays Arthur because he's... le loyal
>Williamson betrays Arthur because he's... le dumb
also not a single one of the women are whores which makes Abigail's history as the camp bike all the more jarring

>>717086062 (OP)
Rdr2 was way more down to earth than the first game. You didn't imagine it

>>717094153
Rdr2 Javier was an entirely different character from rdr1. Wokestar ditched the accent and made him this noble wise man which made no fucking sense. But of course, you can't have a minority character have any sort of negative traits, even if that character is in a gang of murderous criminals. So fucking stupid.

>>717094063
both games are piss easy with M+KB

>>717090349
that's realistic zany, though. plausible, it could happen IRL

>>717094063
It's a movie game for the "mainstream audience", what did you expect?

>>717094581
What about the vampire in St. Denis?

>>717094615
I dunno, I mean it's a good game, probably the last good AAA western game, they clearly cooked with it fr

>>717086062 (OP)
You should see the characters from Revolver, their even crazier
probably because they were designed by Akiman

>>717086062 (OP)
You should see the characters from Revolver, they're even crazier
probably because they were designed by Akiman

>>717089695
LA Noire’s narrative is strong for about 90% of its run, but then things fall apart thanks to the pacing issues in the Arson Desk.

>>717086062 (OP)
yes but that's because the tone is totally different. the overarching narrative is "deep and somber and super serious" but the rest of the game was a fucking south park episode in terms of its absurdity. walking talking stereotype caricatures and mustache twirling villains abound, though the stranger missions were a bit more nuanced, which served to make the overall experience more interesting and memorable.

Both have the "character get randomly domed in a cutscene" thing. Rockstar seems to do that

>>717095349
their/they're/there little guy, one day you'll figure it out

I do find it weird how RDR2 is unusually grounded and tactful for a R* game.

Every R* before it is usually filled with goofy moments and also crass South Park-esque comedy. Even the more serious Rockstar games like GTA IV and RDR1 followed this pattern. RDR2 seems more like LA Noire in the sense that it plays itself totally straight all the time and focuses on the drama. I wonder where this tonal shift came from?

>>717096002
which characters got randomly domed in rdr1? I can only think of the Indian dude from blackwater

I wonder if they tried to tone the gang down to make it feel like you "fit in" more with the trash fuckos. It would make sense with Arthur coming to the general, obvious cutscene conclusions of
>Dutch, a dumbfuck retard who leads... other scumbag dumb fucks...
>maybe...we bad... and should be killed off...

>>717087321
John mocks Herbert in a funny way without being a pussy bitch about it like Arthur

>>717096160
it's a game for adults who don't want to feel like they're playing a kid's game.

>>717088504
To be fair he's uneducated, can barely even read and most of the men in his life turned on him, save for maybe two, and one of them was fucking Uncle

>>717096519
So it's for perpetual children at 20 something years old that delude themselves into thinking they are le deep and mature.

>>717096449
They probably wanted to make the gang members sympathetic to play up the tragedy angle yeah. GTA IV and RDR1 were lauded for their tragic stories, so they probably wanted to make sure they made another tragedy. It’d be hard to feel bad about the gang’s downfall if they were all irredeemable. Better to have them be anti-heroes and criminals with some semblance of honour to make them more admirable. Micah is probably the most realistic depiction of an outlaw from that period, and he’s depicted as a “love to hate” villain.

>>717089425
Do you know if the PS5 version also have fucked sound? Ruled out buying the PC version because it needs rockstar launcher and I'm glad I did if it truly is busted.

RDR2 is a nearly perfect immersive sim for a turn of the century Southern USA cowboy game. I love it.

>>717096997
I'm pretty sure rdr2 isn't an immersive sim

>>717096708
I think it’s an understandable statement because most of his experiences with men have been negative, while most of his experiences with women have been positive. Combine that with the fact that women like Bonnie are genuinely smart and competent, it’s obvious he’d ask “well why SHOULDN’T a woman be in charge?”

>>717096310
Yeah the Indian but I swear it happens to someone else in RDR1

>>717096009
Hey anon, I fixed it. Please accept another Revolver character as payment. This guy's a villain, but he hates the British so he ain't all that bad
I would probably be more interested in the Redemptions if they were more imaginative and goofy while still being earnest and straightforward in their storytelling, like Revolver was, are they any other Spaghetti Western games like it?

>>717096997
>RDR2 is a nearly perfect immersive sim
The mission design in RDR2 is about as far away from immersive sims as one could get

>>717097437
I doubt Rockstar will ever go back to the Revolver style.

Revolver is arguably one of Rockstar’s more obscure and less popular titles. Red Dead didn’t become this huge franchise until Redemption turned it into GTA with horses.

Yes, this was from the era when Rockstar still liked to make shit goofy and bit more brazenly unrealistic.

>>717097437
When I went to a massage appointment several years ago while I was on vacation in the UK, the masseuse made a comment about how “men she works on usually have an erection but it’s okay that I don’t.” I felt really humiliated, and embarrassed like maybe something was wrong with my body.

Ever since that time, any time I’m about to go to an appointment (within 1-2 hours) for anything where I could potentially be exposed, I take a single sildenafil. My reasoning for this is that I find it incredibly emasculating to be having my body massaged by someone, or a laser person working on me and I sit there soft. My mind constantly goes back to that moment where someone in a position of power made that comment and it’s really messed with me ever since. I never do anything beyond taking the pill. I don’t talk about what’s going on down there and I don’t think anyone has ever commented on it either which is good because it’d be a bit awkward, but I find it more awkward when someone is rubbing on my body and I’m flaccid than the contrary where I’m rock solid (which also shows indications of health).

It’s the same thing in the locker room. If I’m going to the gym I take a sildenafil because I’m incredibly embarrassed when I’m surrounded by men who are more showers than growers (i’m definitely the latter) so I look like I’m sporting a micro even though that’s not the case. The sildenafil doesn’t guarantee any kind of strong erection but it definitely has a varied effect of like, 20-60% of an erection when nothing sexual is going on. I don’t really see any of this as sexual (I’m a straight dude), but more of a mental safety thing for myself where I feel most secure when others see me if it’s erect and not soft. Something about when it’s soft and someone can see it makes me feel like less of a person and it has a cyclical effect of softening and shrinking even more.

>>717094398
Retard.

>>717097597
This is something that genuinely annoys me about RDR2. The free roam sections fully embrace emergent gameplay, but the missions are on rails to the point that even the most minor, insignificant deviation from the intended solution is an instafail.

I don’t get it— Wouldn’t designing open ended missions take LESS effort than scripting the game with a comedic amount of fail states?

>>717097597
>mash A to help put the wheel back on the wagon
I don't know, the game definitely has a lot of shit where you just so late 1800's frontier shit

>>717096947
Really? Also when riding the horse?

>>717086623
IT'S HERBERT MOON!!!
I'M HERBERT MOON I'VE JUST BEEN ROBBED

>>717097635
>>717097659
I get it, though I feel like calling Revolver a "Rockstar" game is kind of a stretch, as it was initially a joint-produced by Capcom and Angle Studios, that Rockstar happened to keep with the acquisition; Revolver is way goofier than what Rockstar was putting out at the time
I still think its sad that games like Revolver can't seem to be by major studios anymore

>>717097635
>>717097659
I get it, though I feel like calling Revolver a "Rockstar" game is kind of a stretch, as it was initially a joint-production by Capcom and Angle Studios, that Rockstar happened to keep with the acquisition; as a result, Revolver is way goofier than what Rockstar was putting out at the time and had a different approach to how it designed its world and characters
I still think its sad that games like Revolver can't seem to be by major studios anymore

>>717097267
Maybe you're thinking of when Dutch kills the lady at the bank?

>>717087321
John saves the racist Harold McDougal from the indians, shouts "you're nothing but a bunch of women playing outlaw" in gunfights, and makes fun of DeSanta for being homosexual.
Meanwhile Arthur:
>What are you saying, poor black man, a gang stole your wagon?! Sounds like racism to me! Stay here, I'll go kill all of them, give your wagon back and demand no reward for it despite having demanded rewards from everyone up until now!

>>717100251
that mission is available to both Arthur and John

>>717097267
Luisa in Mexico just gets gunned down eventually

>>717097267
>>717100024
Luisa and that one Williamson gang member who gets shot by his own guys

>>717099280
I'm more pissed that they could called RDR2
Red Dead Renegade that would've been kino

>>717090212
If you say so human

>>717097791
She wanted your dick.