Thread 717091868

Why do people pretend this was a good expansion? WoD was so fucking bad that it set the bar so low that people suddenly thought this was better than Classic, TBC and Wotlk combined??

It was a shitty Diablo 3 clone.

Who pretends? The last good expansion was Wrath of the Lich King.

Legion and Wotlk are the best expansion are I'm tired of pretending it's shit
Wotlk > Legion > tbc > Vanilla > WoD > MoP > Cata > TWW > DF > SL > BFA

>>717091868 (OP)
It was most certainly better than WotlK.

>>717091868 (OP)
>WoD was so fucking bad that it set the bar so low that people suddenly thought this was better than Classic, TBC and Wotlk combined??
Yes.
Just as Shadowlands set the bar so low that people act like Dragonflight and The War Within are actually good.

>>717092074
Anon, SL isn't better than anything. Id rather play Big Rigs than SL.

>>717091868 (OP)
The only things about Legion that sucked was the randomness of Legendary drops and Tomb of Soakgares. Everything else was top tier.

>>717092272
>Tomb of Soakgares
that shit made a lot of people quit the game forever hahaha

>>717092202
SL is much better than BFA

buy an ad maye

>>717092351
>It was good because I got oranges just like in Diablo :)

>>717092353
It made me quit raiding. Mythic KJ is still the least fun fight I've ever encountered. I only did Antorus on Heroic during alt runs late in the patch.

>>717092384
Mechanically, sure. Azerite armor was, is, and will forever be the most retarded design decision in the games history.
But in terms of everything else, SL is a black hole of stinking wet dogshit.

>>717092272
The only fight I enjoyed in Tomb was Maiden. Everything else could go fuck itself.

>>717091868 (OP)
Yeah, people usually forget to mention the massive time gates, third relic slot time gate, the legendary grind, and artifact knowledge. It was a mess.

>>717091868 (OP)
>It was a shitty Diablo 3 clone.
Isn’t that the reason why a lot of people play MMO’s nowadays?

>>717091868 (OP)
Because most Legion fanboys didn't start playing Legion until 7.3

>>717091868 (OP)
Everyone memoryholed how fucking awful launch and 7.2 was, and only slobber its dick because they trick themselves into thinking 7.3.5 was the entire expansion experience.

It was worse than fucking Shadowlands. But at least 7.3.5 fixed everything and allowed the expansion to actually get good, unlike Shadowlands which stayed as pure dogshit as its launch was the entire time.

>>717094794
>It was worse than fucking Shadowlands
Wooah woah woah, bro. Let's not go to far here.

>>717094794
>It was worse than fucking Shadowlands.
Based and true. Modern retail is still suffering the mistakes that Legion implemented.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, is worse than Sneedolands. Everything about it is hostile to what Warcraft was.

>>717094921
Rogue class design was in the shitter. Hunters were fucked over as hard as Demonology in WoD. If you played Arms you were benched if you didn't get your fucking precious orange bracers. Prot had its performance yoyo'd incessantly because balancing Ignore Pain is hard prease undastando. Ret Paladins were worse than fucking Subtlety Rogues if you couldn't get the Unstable Arcanocrystal from Withered J'im (still fucking amazed that name went through and they never changed it, genius fucking joke there Blizzard). Shadow Priests didn't get to raid OR do Mythic+ if they didn't talent and play around Surrender to Madness. Blood DK was the worst tank in the game since fucking Wrath (you know back when Frost was the tank and Blood was the DW DPS). Holy Priests committed mass fucking suicide from being the worst healers in the game AND how utterly fucking retarded the Priest storyline was. Demonology's entire fucking kit DID NOT FUCKING FUNCTION PROPERLY WITHOUT TWO FUCKING LEGENDARIES. Feral had the most complicated fucking rotation in the game and was one of the lowest of the DPS classes in the game. Guardian was the most braindead spec ever made (even more braindead than Havoc DH and Beast Mastery Hunter) and yet somehow was also the BEST tank in the game despite having dog shit all magic defenses. Brewmaster needed the right legendary to function properly because Stagger got fucked thanks to Celestalon (yeah, I bet you're now starting to remember that faggot and what he did). Affliction was the only Warlock spec that wasn't cucked by Artifact and Legendary faggotry, whereas Destro had its damage yoyo'd because FUCK XELNATH apparently.

I will ALWAYS vividly remember launch and 7.2 where Blizzard doubled down on their retardation and told the entire playerbase to "play it our way or play another game". And sure fucking enough, the playerbase did just that, and it caused them to fucking panic extremely hard to the point they "pulled the rip cord".

What you retards don't understand is that even people who love Legion know how bad its launch was, in hindsight. Even at the time.
Legion's secret weapon was that people still gave a shit about World of Warcraft. They gave so much of a shit about WoW that as long as Legion was COOL, which it was, they were willing to, en-masse, ignore the severe design failings of 7.0 Legion and still enjoy it until Blizzard was able to solve its problems in the back half of the expansion.
Legion bought a staggering amount of player goodwill.
>New class which is to this day has the coolest looking effects and animations
>Order Halls
>Mythic+
>Artifact Weapons, which to this day are extremely popular transmogs because you had to earn them
>Suramar
>Dalaran super dense as an expansion town
>Great leveling campaign
>Undead v Worgen storyline fantastic B-plot
When people try to point out that Legion was acshually bad, it's entirely hindsight armchair retard opinions because it's not like it was some secret that 7.0 Legiondaries and Titanforging sucked cock, it just didn't soil the entire experience because unlike post-SL WoW, the WoW experience was more than just pure distilled gameplay mechanics where no one cares about the set dressing.

>>717095734
>>New class which is to this day has the coolest looking effects and animations
All of DH abilities are just abilities that say "REMEMBER ILLIDAN? REMEMBER? REMEMBER? LOL REMEMBER?
>>Order Halls
Split the player base up even more into class specific halls instead of cities
>>Mythic+
Cancer
>>Artifact Weapons, which to this day are extremely popular transmogs because you had to earn them
No you didnt lmao
>>Suramar
Crack elves and cancer rep grinds
>>Dalaran super dense as an expansion town
MEMBER DALARAN?
>>Great leveling campaign
MEMBER ILLIDAN AND THE BURNING CRUSAD?
>>Undead v Worgen storyline fantastic B-plot
shit

>>717091868 (OP)
How do you even into warcraft

>>717096418
>Hindsight armchair retard opinions half of which aren't even true
yes yes yes you're very convincing

>>717092074
wod that high is insane

>>717094794
Nah, Legion launch was the best time I ever had with the game.

>>717095734
>Mythic+
Is dogshit and ruined the game for everyone who isn't cattle.

Realistically everyone should've quit after wotlk

Never forget: PvEfags are worthless subhumans.

>>717091868 (OP)
Suramar was easily the best set of content ever released for the game.

>>717097149
Same
I doubt that guy even played Legion or made it to level cap

Legion Remix will be the best form WoW ever had. You'll forever regret not playing it.
Blizzard just need to address legendaries from the get go.