Thread 717094874

DK64 is better than Bananza.

I don't know why NIntendo of 2025 cannot make a game better and more content packed than Rare of 1999.

This is where Dixie was in DK64

>>717094874 (OP)
Some of the things I thought were cool about this game like the different powers and the mini-games are pure dogshit in retrospect.
The first level, Jungle Japes, is one of the worst and shittiest platforming levels ever made. The Aztec one after it is frustrating and shitty too.
The characters control like shit and can't jump and most platforming sections are short and designed to piss you off so you have to try again and again to get them right.

It's really a dogshit game. I can't believe there was part of me that thought it was cool and innovative.

>>717095163
Kill yourself faggot, the levels themselves were amazing

That said, Bananza is still better, but then again that's the GOTY of this year.

>/v/ contrarians support dk64 even harder now that a better game has come out
lol
you love to see it

Explain to me why they couldn’t have at least had Funky, Candy, Lanky, Chunky, Tiny, and Kiddie as NPCs in Bananza. Make a DK Isle level for postgame and plop them all in there. How hard is this.

>>717095317
Factory level is okay.
The other levels suck. Other than the busy work that forces you to change characters, the levels are hollow as shit. When there is platforming to be done, it's a pain in the ass.

>>717095794
>Wanting good characters to be tainted by the Steven Universe art style

>>717095956
>Kiddy
>good character

>>717096180
I like that everyone hates Kiddy's gross design but you slap that shit on a $80 game, call it "expressive" and tendies foam at the mouth in excitement.

>>717095163
>He can't play a platformer unless he gets 20 seconds of air time with near infinite jumps and hover boosts
Well, thanks for explaining why journos love Bananza and Odyssey so much now.

>>717094874 (OP)
Its not as bad as people make it out to be, but lets not pretend that it even comes to close to some of Rare's best games. Let alone Bananza

>>717094874 (OP)
Agreed, everything in the game was a stroke of genius and some of the best content ever put into a game. The only people who whined about it were ADHD trannies who were upset they didn't have everything handed to them in the first two minutes.

>>717096872
>some of the best content ever put into a game
lol

>>717095956
>holy fuck donkey king is smiling that means everything is this cartoon i hate

>>717094874 (OP)
Have you played Bananza? Post proof.

>>717096951
>In order to be expressive the artstyle has to be ugly!
The monkey smiles all the time you disingenuous nigger

>>717094874 (OP)
>content packed
Stop doing this. Games in 1999 weren't worried about how much content they had, they were focused on being fun to play.

>>717097486
Did you lose your shit when you played the original 1981 game and saw DK's mouth being in the same style as the cartoon that triggers you?

>>717095480
>better

Banaza is adhd slop

>>717097607
content and fun is correlated. Especially considering the trend of lazily put together open world games with wide empty spaces

>>717097815
nta but their art styles are NOT the same.

>>717098548
I meant compared to the modern goofy ass pixar style

>>717098601
"Calarts bean mouth" has existed decades before Steven Universe was ever conceived in both America and Japan.

>>717098764
Major fucking difference.

>>717094874 (OP)
Bananza is longer than DK64.

>>717097607
They actually were though. Loads of people at Rare had the philosophy that they were making games for kids that might only get a new game every few months or even once a year, so they'd specifically make their games really long. So that's why Blast Corps has so much post-game stuff, or why Jet Force Gemini is the way it is.

Seems like the tag anywhere romhack makes this game actually worth playing. Anyone try it? I enjoy collectathons but banjo tooie was so fucking long and tedious and I'm worried dk64 is more of the same

>>717098920
>Bananza is longer than DK64.
This is subjective. It's "long" time is a stretch of boring tasks.

>>717098364
Trust me, even short games can be fun to play over and over again. 'content' isn't fun, it's work.

>>717098920
Banjo-Kazooie can be beaten in under six hours. I 100% it in thirteen hours. That is a lie. Keep in mind that games today are developed differently from games in the past.

>>717094874 (OP)
>DK64 is better than Bananza.

>>717099019
Yes I agree, Donkey Kong 64 is filled with tedious bullshit, it's great that Bananza both cuts down the pointless busywork AND is still longer.
This is obviously self-evident to anyone that actually played these games.

>>717099042
This isn't a short game. It's a long game with little content.

>>717099093
faggot Im a DK fan.

>>717099094
>it's great that Bananza both cuts down the pointless busywork AND is still longer.
Banaza is nothing but busywork you faggot.

>>717099042
B-K was not developed by the same team that did Blast Corps and Jet Force Gemini. But also there's a big difference between 100%ing a game now that you know everything in it, and finding out all of that stuff on your own, and all Rare games were filled with secret junk (and arguably loads of padding and filler).

>>717099225
All games are busywork.

>>717099225
t. never actually played these games

>>717098871
Old good new bad, exactly.

post the comic comparing dk64 gameplay to bananza gameplay

>>717099362
This but unironically

>everyone that played Bananza thinks it's a masterpiece
>everyone that didn't play it doesn't like it
seems like there's an easy solution to this

>>717099009
Yeah, I recommend it. Like >>717098920 said, DK64 was great if you were a kid with a ton of free time. Reducing the Tag Barrel backtracking saves a ton of downtime, but your enjoyment of DK64 deoends on your tolerance for old-school collectathon platformers. The missions are never as complex or "adventure-gamey" as anything in Banjo-Tooie, but it's more like an amped-up Banjo-Kazooie with WAY more side-attractions and mini-games.

I love how people hate Bananza DK because "not serious not adult not hardcore like Rare DK" and willfully ignore all of the silly shit Rare DK did like the Tex Avery wild takes with eyeball popping, his goofy voice and quips in 64, and his voice in 90% of his games that people have spent years hating and were ecstatic when Sakurai replaced them with monster growls and roars in Smash. Even in Jungle Beat he had a bunch of silly expressions and his "Ooo-HOOOOOO-hoo!" cartoony voice.

>>717099230
And when you do 100% a game like BK, it doesn't feel like a slog, it's fun and satisfying and doesn't overstay its welcome. Same with Ocarina of Time, and I feel that game needs more to it, but also acknowledge that it is fine the way it is.

>>717098364
open world games are the most guilty of prioritizing content over actual good gameplay

>>717094874 (OP)
DK64 already wasn't good on its own, imagine when compared to a good game

>>717099543
>People who bought an $80 version of Odyssey on a gamecard have to justify their purchase
Whoa

>>717100056
Seriously, you can't actually do anything in open world games, just run and jump. Name a single open world game where you can do something beyond those tow things.

>>717100205
I do? Why? To appease you? Suck a shotgun.

>>717098440
You posted the wrong pic, anon. That one came later.
Pic related is the original art style.

I like DK64, but it's absolutely not one of Rare's best. Both as a kid and as an adult, there are plenty of moments and minigames that just straight up piss me off.

>>717100664
WHAT'S SO FUNNY

>DK64 is better than Bananza.
>I don't know why NIntendo of 2025 cannot make a game better and more content packed than Rare of 1999.

>>717094874 (OP)
>sonygroes are shilling for dk64 now
Lmao you faggots never cared about this game before

>>717099915
Sonygroes aren't people

>>717102801
>There are people who get filtered by the beetle in both races
>There are people who get filtered by Beaver Bother
Heheh

GET OUT

>>717099185
post your dk games

>>717103386
>filtered by Beaver Bother
People don't dislike BB because it's challenging, they dislike it because you need to do it four times for 100%. It's in the castle world twice IIRC. Many of the minigames are repeated 2, 3, 4 times (one even shows up 5 times).

The worst mini game in dk64 was that race with the bunny

>>717094874 (OP)
shit bait, even as a kid I could instantly recognize that DK64 was dogshit

>>717096180
I think he's funny.
>DK scratches his head
>DD rubs his sores
>DX has a little cry
>KD screams his fucking lungs out

>>717103953
>Race you can easily win compared to something like the beetle race that at least needs trial and error
How

>>717095794
I mean they could, they just didn't want to

>>717099394
wait there is one?

>>717100056
>open world games are the most guilty of prioritizing content over actual good gameplay
There is no content in Breath of the Wild, Tears, ODyssesy, and now Bananza. It's all open world empty shit.

>>717104193
Being born after 2000 invalidates your opinion

>>717108374
You need to learn what open world means. Not only is what you said not true, but two of those games do not belong to the genre. Do better.

>>717108585
>but two of those games do not belong to the genre.
theyre all the same slop genre

>>717108858
You don't play video games

>>717108936
I play video games, not video slop

>>717109084
Hey can you tell us what open world means in your own words

>>717100664
>>717103386
>>717103873
>>717103953
This is kind of a retarded take, but hear me out: DK64 is fun BECAUSE it's the best of early 3D platformer "infuriating" autism. I'm probably one of the few people on Earth that loves when 3D platformers hit me over the head with bullshit challenges and artificial difficulty because the act of BEATING an intense challenge feels SO much more rewarding than when the reward is just handed to me. Bananza's still fun too, just a different kind of fun.

>>717109315
Bananza is retard fun

>>717109307
BOTW, TOTK, Odyssey, and Bananza.

>>717109634
You are a retard

>>717109634
Genuine retardation, not surprising considering it's the weekend.

>>717109849
>>717109979
>games that are open and you can freely explore worlds
Back at you.

>>717110953
Odyssey and Bananza are level based howeverthoughbeit, retard-kun

>>717112121
>Level based
You mean in the sense that the emptiness has a slightly different coat of paint

Rare had a rough transition into 3D...

>>717094874 (OP)
>I don't know why NIntendo of 2025 cannot make a game better and more content packed than Rare of 1999.
uhhh

>>717112294
This is my last reply to you because you keep being retarded.
open world = There are no levels in the traditional sense: the entire world is open to you from the beginning of the game. there may be subareas but the general main world is open to you at any time.
Level based = Games where there are multiple separate levels where one has to be completed before moving to the next.

>>717112121
>Odyssey and Bananza are level based

>>717112827
shitty game

>>717095317
The fuck they were. Gloomy Galleon and Crystal Caves are some of the most putrid dogshit ever put into a video game.

>>717096597
>with near infinite jumps and hover boosts
So... shit that isn't in bananza?

>>717099185
No you aren't.

>>717100205
>$80
>gamecard
but neither of those is true...

>>717104193
I liked DK64, but maybe that's because I only played Monkey Smash with my friends. That mode was super fun. Sometimees we would take turns on the single player and itr was ok.

A lot of games on the N64 and even PS1 were just Super Mario 64 clones with maybe a few different mechanics. Not bad but a bit generic.

>>717094874 (OP)
Rare was never good

O well maybe in another 25 years they'll figure it out LOL

No seriously, 25 years and they put this dog shit out.

>>717116658
>Rare was never good
Revisionist contrarian midwit take desu. Even after they went to MS, Kameo and Viva Piñata were decent. Nuts and Bolts has defenders but I still don't care for it. Once Kinect stuff started though, they were an absolute garbage factory.

>>717118779
>Nuts and Bolts
It's an okay game but it's funny how some fat sand person crying on early Youtube really marked it as Satan in videogame form

>>717094874 (OP)
This game has a cool vibe but that's it, I could never finish it because it's too boring and feels like homework.

>>717115207
>Gloomy Galleon and Crystal Caves
>not memorable

ngmi

>>717109315
>m probably one of the few people on Earth that loves when 3D platformers hit me over the head with bullshit challenges and artificial difficulty because the act of BEATING an intense challenge feels SO much more rewarding than when the reward is just handed to me
Imagine being so retarded that you enjoy the most badly programmed shit like Beaver Bother.

>>717100205
>blatantly lies
absolute state

>>717122507
They're memorably bad, yeah. All of Crystal Caves is just minigames inside cabins and igloos. Gloomy Galleon is just hitting a switch then swimming into a room to grab a Golden Banana with nothing else in the way except Sushies, a very lenient time limit, and maybe a Bonus Barrel.

>>717124594
It's clear you dont like soul.

>>717123953
You're not wrong, lol. Beaver Bother makes my blood boil, but the satisfaction of clearing a difficult challenge is worth it in my eyes. The building-smashing challenge in Feast Layer and the Zebra Rehearsal in Bananza gave me a similar rush (even though they're more fairly-designed imo), but I enjoyed overcoming those challenges as well. That isn't to say that I don't enjoy relaxed-pace games though.

>>717094874 (OP)
>more content packed
lol?
DK64 is blatantly padded with the colored bananas, and even then takes less time to 100% compared to Bananza, which points you towards every banana if you pay for the treasure maps.

>>717124807
The enemy that the huge QoL hack removes by default is soul? He's not even a threat for the majority of the GBs in Crystal Caves which are, again, minigames in igloos and cabins. There's nothing to actually explore there, and there's no threat from him.

>>717124861
Banaza has more deliberate padding with its wide empty space.

>>717125479
there's no empty space in bananza at all, it's densely packed with collectibles.
way to out yourself

>>717125883
>it's densely packed with digging

Minecraft is, too, but guess which one is more fun and is the biggest game in the world?

>>717126046
Bananza is much more fun, Minecraft does have a larger audience though

>>717126102
>Bananza is much more fun
nope

>>717126046
>he thinks you can just dig to get all the bananas
you didn't play the game

>>717126127
Denial-kun, just because you *can* respond doesn't mean you *should*. Go take a shower and stop embarassing yourself

>>717094874 (OP)
Bananza mogs. This a fact

>>717099009
it's the only way to play the game. Needlessly backtracking for each Kong is dumb. Even the old devs mentioned wishing they just made it so any Kong could collect anything

>>717127080
>wishing they just made it so any Kong could collect anything
Eh, I wouldnt have liked this.

>>717125039
>QoL hack
>Removes genuine features
Gay

>>717124807
I haven't played the game in so long, I completely forgot about this enemy.

>>717097607
>Games in 1999 weren't worried about how much content they had
The Lost World in DKC2 was specifically created to make the game last longer. Same with the banana birds in 3. Rare was one of the most obvious and open about padding their games to give them a sense of having better value.

>>717094874 (OP)
good shitpost, but I wouldn't be surprised if people unironically believed this

>>717099009
All it does is remove tedium. You could technically "cheat" sections with it if you wanted to.

>>717095956
only DK got a new design in Bananza, retard. At least pretend you know what the fuck you're arguing about

>>717099915
It's forced controversy. These same people would not shut the fuck up if DKC3 released today.

am i crazy or does donkey kong make too much noise in bananza? it doesn't help he sounds like homer simpson getting his balls poked with a pitchfork. it's constant and every action makes him whoop and wail

>>717125039
>Huge QoL hack
???

>>717127886
>It's forced controversy.
lol is this your cope for someone hating on your "current thing to buy"?

>>717128650
Thanks for cutting out the rest of my post so you could ignore what I'm actually saying and create your personal strawman to piss on.

>>717128802
the rest of your post doesnt matter saying stupid ass shit like that

>>717129017
Yeah, anon. You definitely wouldn't shit your pants over Kiddy Kong if DKC3 came out today.

>>717095794

Those characters are in legal hell. Rareware got bought out by Microsoft, so those characters are likely owned in part by Microsoft.

>>717129017
>>717129462
>Immediately disengages.
Yeah, that's what I thought, you fucking faggot.

>>717126946
>forc-
immediately stopped reading

>>717126946
>He has to make a wacky face every five seconds
Gross

>>717094874 (OP)
Only in rarefags delusions

>>717129962
They're not, They're traded for banjo

>>717136354
the typical millennial who never grew up with actual good games