Thread 717095029

What happened to games that start strong, stay strong, and end strong, while never losing momentum with no dips in quality in any areas? Seems like nowadays all we get is jank and inconsistency.

>>717095029 (OP)
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, oot is too bloated and has too many drawn out conversations and cutscenes.

>>717095029 (OP)
Ocarina of Time loses moment and has dips in quality. Especially in the midgame. Lying ass.

>>717095352
>ocarina of time loses steam mid fame
lol no. mid-end game is the best part

>>717095352
>WWtoddler
That's hilarious coming from you.

>>717095515
that's Spirit Tracks thoughever

>>717095515
That’s spirit tracks which is ironically doesn’t have any steam at all

>>717095352
Are ocarina of time's dips in quality in the room with us right now?

>>717095352
>link we have to backtrack to the tower of spirits again

>>717095515
I just picked any Zelda image you knuckledragger, calm your tits.

>>717095404
>Pull the sword out of the stone
>Immediately lose half your kit
>Forest which immediately proceeds hitting adult is one of the weakest dungeons in the game because half of it has to account for you having no bow, let alone any of the other items Child would've had access to
>Don't get enough items to exceed Child's kit until halfway through Water Temple
>Just in time for Shadow Temple, where the lull in quality doesn't lift until the end of
>Only dungeons that feel like you're working with a fully featured and functioning item kit are Spirit Temple, Ganon's Castle, and Gerudo Training Grounds if you saved that for last
>You basically shouldn't leave GTG until last, and if you wanted to get the fullest benefits from Ice Arrows, you HAVE TO bail out of Water Temple after getting the Longshot and immediately rush to complete that first before going back to Water
Kiss my ass dude.

>>717096150
Forest temple is awesome

>>717095542
>>717095579
>ackshully
That's still WW's style, zoomers. Way to out yourselves.

>>717096150
Child links kit is literally just the slingshot and boomerang which are outclassed by the bow and hookshot

>>717096150
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>717095219
Name a more overrated developer than Team Ico. Pure movieslop for pseudo intellectuals.

>>717095219
>OoT too bloated
Everything has a purpose and you're just throwing out bait words for the sake of it, play the game
>>717095352
We did not play the same game. Water Temple is the only slog and that's ONE dungeon

>>717096493
>Name a more overrated developer
nintendo ead

>>717096585
>Everything has a purpose
rupees

>>717096704
EAD has actually made games with gameplay though, that puts them ahead of Team Ico by default.

>>717096374
Boomerang isn't outclassed until Longshot AND both of the shots firing straight has totally different combat implications for e.g. stunning Stalfos compared to the arc of Boomerang.

>>717096585
I did not care for the linearity of Shadow Temple, and if Fire wasn't as good as it was, it's be four mid dungeons in a row between Jabu and Spirit.
Besides,
>There's NO dips in quality
>W-well there's Water Temple but that doesn't count!
CAN'T BE BOTH

>>717096762
>EAD has actually made games with gameplay though
The gameplay in question. Buggy, broken, mindless slop that rips off goemon and mega man.

>>717095029 (OP)
Ocarina of Time starts like shit, and the middle is shit, the ending cool though.

>>717096901
You really wanna embarrass yourself today I see.

>>717096493
>Complaining about movieslop in an OoT thread

>>717096993
Play the game with a randomizer for repeat playthroughs. Removes all the story elements.

>>717096989
Observe the real time combat of oot, where you take turns between needing online public affirmation of your terrible taste in games and attacking the enemy, but ONLY when the game says its okay. This is the game staying "strong" by the way. No jank or inconsistency here.

>>717097068
>The cutscenes aren't that bad if you just mod them out

>>717097197
What would you be left with in Ico if you modded out the story? Walking and mashing square. Actually that's all you do even with the story. Barely even a game honestly.

>>717095029 (OP)
Twilight princess and ocarina of time are complete games.

>>717096790
>the linearity of Shadow Temple
Theyre all pretty linear. Weird criticism of Shadow specifically
>four mid dungeons in a row between Jabu and Spirit
I like Forest more than Fire and I've always done Spirit before Shadow
>>There's NO dips in quality
I didn't say that. I just think it's ridiculous to call all of midgame a dip in quality when Water Temple is only 1/5 of midgame

>>717096984
It starts fine. People bring up this example in hindsight and pretend like 3D wasn't in its infancy with an alien ass controller.

>>717095029 (OP)
Zoomies and PS/PC boomers don't want to admit it but Miyamoto is indeed a genius tardwrangler and Aonuma learned well from him.

>>717095029 (OP)
>it's another soilennials gushing over mid game they played as kids thread

>>717096989
You're replying to a bot.

>>717097362
>and Aonuma learned well from him.
No. You're retarded. Aonuma is a clown and his Zelda's were the decline.

>>717095029 (OP)
>enjoy JRPGS that usually come with lengthy openings
>almost always put down OOT not long after leaving the forest right before anything cool happens
what breed of autism is this

>>717097310
It takes until Dodongo Cavern before it feels better to play, but I think it really ebs and flows throughout the adult dungeons.

>>717097197
ootfags fold so quickly.
>the game is LE PERFECTION since 1999!
>BUT only if you mod out all the cutscenes and mod in 60fps and mod in custom controls and mod in free camera and mod in a randomizer and mod in shrek and mod in new moves and mod out iframes and mod and mod and mod and

>>717097464
Zoomer attention span

>>717097456
Ok zoomie

>>717097590
randomizing it is a last ditch effort on their part to wring blood from a rock

>>717097619
that can't be right, zoomers can't read enough to like JRPGS

>>717097690
It's sad how afraid they are to move on to something else. For a game all about courage, they embody cowardice at every opportunity.

>>717095219
ICO and TLG are garbage

>>717097690
Rando is fun and only works for games with a lot of checks to begin with. The Zelda series has tons of pointless rupee chests that have value when randomized.

>>717097478
I don't know about that. Even Deku feels pretty good once you just skip the cutscene triggers for what's in your pic.
>B-but muh glitches
It's literally hugging the wall and side jumping in front of the door and opening it.

>>717096150
Size of item kit != quality amount, retard.

>>717097309
The other temples do a pretty good job of looping back in on themselves. I think the only really egregious ones that don't have lobby-ish rooms that you regularly return to are Fire and Shadow, and Fire's only like that because you have to unlock all the Goron cells to start giving you shortcuts back to other areas. Shadow's design is a lot of cramped hallways, and it never really lingers in any of its expansive rooms for long enough to feel like it's anything but hallway spelunking.

>>717097664
You lost to gay bear sex. Don't "ok zoomie" me when Aonuma Zeldas were literally your generation.

>>717097068
Doesn't even need that. Game has 10 min of cutscenes, tops.
That says more about spergs and ADHD crying about 10min of cutscenes in a 15~20hrs game more than anything.

>>717097068
At that point just learn sequence breaks. It's a lot more fun and you still get the basic plot of OoT without randomizer neutering it.

>>717096993
>>717097197
>>717097590
>complaining about cutscenes
>in a game where only the beginning, end, the timeskip, and the annoying ass owl have moderately long "A mashing sections"
Your favorite game has more cutscenes (unless you play zoomzoom roguelike slop). "Hold R3 to skip cutscene" wasn't around back then. Why are zoomers so afraid of 2 minute long pauses in gameplay

>>717098000
>Game has 10 min of cutscenes, tops.
15 actually with the Light Arrow cutscene being the longest. (10 mins)

That started to happen when gaymers demanding games to be 40 hours long.

>>717098096
https://youtu.be/ubQunBvBvR4
>Blocks your you are path
>Makes you mash A for five minutes before giving you a song, maybe, hopefully
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Nuts on (You) at least five times

>>717098251
Shiek's cutscenes are like a min at most barring Nocturne of course. If you're going to shitpost then get a real example to make it believable.

>>717098096
>+5 rupees has been sent to your wallet
Even movie man himself, Hideo Kojima knew to let player skip cutscenes if they wanted. Miyamoto lacked this foresight and doubled down wanting to make the most cinematic game ever.