The two biggest losers of the console wars

>>717098508 (OP)

>>717098508 (OP)
Nintendo, who debases themselves at every opportunity.

Why was Atari 7800 so shit compared to NES? Like games looked worse and the console itself was bigger than NES. But why?

>>717098579
>cope the snoy does

>>717098508 (OP)
Atari.

>>717099000
Poor architecture

>>717098508 (OP)
Atari singlehandedly crashed the game industry. Sega went full retard, but Atari failed at their peak.

>>717099183
Nintendo and Sega also crashed the game industry in 1993. Nintendo said it was the customers fault lmao.

>>717099297
Thats not a crash

>>717099297
How many times will you attempt to rewrite history?

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega is still Sega, modern Atari is just Infogrames.

>>717099518
Nope. Nolan North Runs atari now

>>717099518
Lol I meant bushell

>>717099000
Was originally meant for a 1984 release when Atari was still owned by Warner, then Jack Tramiel took over Atari Corp. and sat on it for two years and only shat it out in 1986 after paying GCC who original designed the system.
>>717099132
It was actually decent for 1984, basically it was a supped up Coleco Vision with full 2600 back compat. Problem was by 1986 the NES actually hit it off in the States, plus Sega had the Master System that was miles ahead of both Atari and Nintendo graphically. The tech was moving too fast for anyone to wait.

>>717099479
At least 40

>>717099830
Okay that makes sense
Poor atari. I actually like the idea of the 7800 but boy they fucked the bag

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega. Atari had one successful console out of like 20 and a bunch of arcade games no one but literal boomers cares about or remembers.

>>717099449
Neither was the 1983 "crash."

>>717099479
You didn't even know about this, did you?

>>717100057
The 1983 crash was a real crash
Literally gaming took decades to recover

>>717100057
>this was a huge monumental deal
>also you didn't know about it
Pure retardation.

>>717100029
I thought people liked the lynx

>>717100178
>This thing I learned about from youtube is totally real! But this thing reported by the LA times when it happened uhhhh DOESN'T COUNT!

Just admit you're upset that Nintendo and Sega caused a crash. Sonicfag.

>>717098508 (OP)
Atari. Sega's downfall was almost inevitable
>>717099518
>Sega is still Sega
Sega is Sammy

>>717098508 (OP)
Atari because they never recovered and are still scamming their loyal fans to this day.

>>717098508 (OP)
Atari was never good, boomers only played that shit because there was nothing else better at the time.

The moment Nintendo and Sega entered the console scene boomers dropped Atari shit.

>>717098508 (OP)
The console race ended after 5th gen, anyone still in it is either a sucker or a grifter. Getting out of the mine when the canary dies is just common sense, not a fall from grace.

>>717100362
Its true.
You can still buy a new atari console with new games but who tf does that

>>717099297
Wasn't this just the Bubble Economy popping?

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega for all their fuckups at least still has some identity and even zoomers know what Sega is and have some idea of what they WERE famous for (Sonic, bringing arcade gaming at home, being the first company to upset Nintendo). When Sega left the hardware business, people were actually sad because all of their main systems (Master System to Dreamcast) still have games that are timeless to play even now. The only real irredeemable failure (both in terms of profit and worthwhile games) of a system they had was the 32X, an add on.

When Atari left the hardware industry people just shrugged and laughed. The Jaguar was just a failure after a succession of failures (5200, 7800, Lynx, Falcon) that sucked in terms of sales and worthwhile games. Even the one success they had (2600) is only interesting for its history, as even the good games feel prehistoric to anyone born after 1985.

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega ended their console life with a bang, Atari ended theirs with a whimper.

>>717100564
Technically atari came back to the hardware game but no one cared

>>717100406
Hey...

>>717100467
No actually that's after their scam spree and bit coin shenanigans.

>>717099830
>Jack Tramiel
oh yeah, wasn't he more interested in competing with commodore? and at that time home computers and not consoles were considered the future, so it's understandable that they neglected the console releases

>>717100846
Oh yeah.
Does anyone even have a VCS? 10,000 sold seems extremely low

>>717100278
>a crash so significant you only hear about it from one autist
My god... what a happening.

>>717098508 (OP)

Atari. They fell from 90% of the market to nothing. They have nothing to milk for genuine nostalgia beyond basic arcade games.

Sega peaked at 60% of the 16-Bit market.

>>717101248
Sega was never that high

>SEGA withdrawals at 6th gen
>Video games become utter shit
End of an era. Video games will never recover.

>>717101083
Tramiel only knew computers of his experience at Commodore, and after falling out with Irving Gould took a bunch of Commodore employees over to Atari and bought the hardware division (the games division was spun off as Atari Games and basically became a division of Namco), and focused more on the Atari ST.

By all accounts consoles were secondary to him, largely because of his experience with home computers but Nintendo's monopoly on third party licenses.

>>717101485
>says the 360 and wii era is shit
Sure buddy

>>717101226
Yeah what the fuck is he on about

at least some people fondly remember some of the things sega made.
atari was run by greedy assholes making slop from the very beginning

>>717101746
Yep, it was.

>>717102361
How?

>>717102352
Atari was always ran by cunts but people liked the 2600

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega was never good

>>717100564
Had Atari prepared better documentation for how their Tom & Jerry Chip + Manager was suppose to run, I bet we could've seen a few more years out of the Jaguar. Had they released the 7800 back in 1984 like originally intended, we could've seen an actual contended in the space besides the Master System and NES. Had they given the 5200 Backwards Compability and an actual reason to BUY it, they might've succeeded.
But they didn't do those things.
They failed.
We have this conversation on /vr/ all the time, why did Sega fail? Why did the Dreamcast fail? They were stumbling head over heels since the 32x and CD Addon. If they had taken the time and resource of those two and used it to work on the Saturn with the idea of 3D in mind, then it would've been the powerhouse needed to keep them afloat in the mid 1990s, leading into the 2000s with the Dreamcast.

Its sad to think of what could've been.

>>717102829
Okay thats just fucking wrong
The genesis and dreamcast were excellent

>>717102170
>>717101226
>Why aren't the youtubers talking about it??? How am I supposed to know if I don't hear about it from scott the poz or the cookie monster?

>>717103052
Oh okay now i know it's horseshit

>>717103052
Some report how Nintendo only made 500 bazillion when they thought they'd make 700 from some rag in 1993, is something only a truly neurodivergent individual would consider noteworthy.

>>717103195
You don't need to outsource your opinions, you aren't a woman. You won't cease to exist if you think for yourself.

What happened to the supposedly new Atari console?

>>717102829
After playing more of their catalog, I can say SEGA fucking rocks.

>>717103295
This isn't an opinion though, it's just not noteworthy.

>>717103295
>24% drop is a crash
Kk faggot

>>717103254
Thank you for revealing to everyone that you only think it didn't happen because Nintendo is involved.

>>717103393
Its out and has new games but no one bought it
I own one and its...okay.

>>717103416
You spend every day of your sad life crying over Nintendo. You're now scouring old newspapers for any mention of the company out of sheer unmitigated autism. Just one more tabloid article screenshot and history will be rewritten however, keep going.

>>717103416
Nigger are you for real
>crash

>>717103416

>>717103595
Lmao

We live in the worst timeline

>>717102459
Trash games.

>>717104285
Okay retard

>>717104564
The retard is the one that defends 7th gen trash.

The 7th Gen may not have reached the heights of the 5th or 6th, but it was the last good Gen we had. We're now down here, in the pit, drowning in dung.

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega still makes games. Atari had gaming by the balls then fucked it right up.

>>717098508 (OP)
Xbox

>>717101083
It wasn't about just competing with Commodore. It was personal and revenge for him. He founded Commodore.
He was also a shithead.

>>717102829
Judging by their most successful consoles, you can pick up the majority of games on the Genesis and play with little adjustment, they feel timeless and graphics are good enough you can discern what's going on.

You pick up a 2600 game and it looks like a pixelated cave painting and feels functionally limited because of the one button.

>>717104987
This.

>>717102829
You shut your mouth

>>717101746
>>717102459
>>717104564
>>717104813
>but it was the last good Gen we had
>cod shit
>brown and grey shit
>middle market dies
>consoles were basically gimped PCs, not specialized designs
>dudebro trash that by the end of the gen gave us feminist tranny trash like Dragon Age 2
>Japanese games lost their relevance, try aping western slop to stay relevant
7th gen was shit. Stop being a zoomer.

>>717105598
It was the last. Good. Generation. We. Had.
You fucking jackoff.
>Brown and Grey filter.
So, who cares! Pick something else, there were hundreds more!
>CoD shit.
Call of Duty USED TO BE GOOD. It wouldn't have gotten this way if it wasn't.
>Middle Market Dies
Let it die.
>Gimped PCs.
Thats all they ever were. From the 2600 to the Xbox One, they were nothing more than dumbed down computers for the consumer market.
>Dudebro trash.
Whats wrong with Dudebro? Sounds like you didn't have friends to play with.
>Japanese games lost their relevance.
Who cares? Not everything that comes out Japan is gold, nor should it be treated as such just because its Japanese.

>>717103595
lol NDF having a melty.

>>717103607
>It happened but it wasn't a crash...even though I've seen more proof of this than the 1985 crash because ummmm save me scott the woz

>>717105998
>some journalist waste of life article from three decades ago
The evidence... it's overwhelming.

>>717098508 (OP)
>asking this retarded zoomer board anything about atari

>>717098508 (OP)
I don't even know why Sega failed so hard. They were as good as Nintendo during the Gameboy, NES and SNES time.

the CDI was both a colossal failure AND shaped the console landscape till this day. That's impressive in a way.

>>717098508 (OP)
atari
at least all of sega's consoles (except the x32 perhaps) had some quality games that actually worked

>>717106101
We both know you're one youtube thumbnail or tweet away from knowing it happened, don't be so uppity.

>>717106482
That legendary market crash that made Sega and Nintendo stop making consoles and Atari to redesign their new machine to not even look like a game console. Very real events that transpired because of the horrible crash of 93. Those dang dirty youtubers just keep the truth hidden, but we know.

>>717098508 (OP)
>>717104987
>>717105447
this. Xbox. Not many people remember but Atari lived on as a publisher who had the DBZ license. Xbox's tour de force IPs are just deep underground, shot to the back of the head. Their console business might as well not exist and its just subscriptions keeping them alive in an agonizing slow car crash we all see.

>>717106348
even the 32x had some good ports of model 1 games.

>>717105836
>sentence period sentence
Go be a redditor somewhere else you niggerfaggot.
>So, who cares! Pick something else, there were hundreds more!
It was the dominant color palette at the time. It was almost omnipresent
>Call of Duty USED TO BE GOOD
Yeah, prior to MW and influencing FPS games in the worst way imaginable.
>ummm an entire market of good but flawed games sold at an affordable price should die actually!
Kill yourself
>Thats all they ever were.
Zoomertard detected. Consoles up until the 360 were of a bespoke design that initially could beat home computers in certain areas like fast line scrolling. Want to play Contra at home? You're better off playing it on NES because no computer could scroll that fast. Id Software's first game was a cancelled SMB3 port made specifically because no computer had a fast scrolling platformer to compete with what consoles and arcades could do.
>Whats wrong with Dudebro?
Retards that publishers catered to and dumbed down games.
>Not everything that comes out Japan is gold
And not everything in the west is either, so Japan shouldn't have aped their sensibilities, dumb zoomnigger.

I can't think of a single Atari game made after 1985 worth playing, at least on consoles.

Sega for sure. Atari games sucked. The Dreamcast had a fucking incredible library, it was just less powerful than the PS2. The added benefit of DVD’s made it so successful it drove the Dreamcast out entirely, which killed a great console.

I want to play Power Stone 2 now

>>717106596
>here's some qualifications in order for me to think this is an actual crash and not ummm WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE
I didn't ask for your mental gymnastics. The market was no longer interested in 16-bit machines. Sega was mulling over this internally and had several public reports about it. https://mdshock.com/2021/04/14/segas-financial-troubles-an-analysis-of-export-revenue-1991-1998/

Nintendo publicly blaming customers for not buying their games and consoles as they internally figured out how to turn things around. Call it what you want, the 16-bit crash? 16-bit slump? 16-bit decline? All that matters is it happened and was done by Sega and, to your hurt feelings, Nintendo.

>>717102829
Faggot. video games would not have been the same without them.

>>717102829
dumb fucking tendie.

>>717106946
This is also why Sega pushed the Sega CD so much and why the 3DO was seen as viable. In reality people just wanted to ease off on spending until real 3D came along

i am missing 1 console and 1 attachment from this pic
also my game gear is blue

>>717107038
The market wanted change and didn't see the current games as significant enough. Exactly as you said.

>>717106946
I refer to it as the 16 bit recession. To the average person it seemed like games were fine and you the exciting innovation of real time 3D games at home just around the corner.

But if you were in the industry, things looked dire.

>>717106946
I'll call it "one autist's schizophrenic delusion" and be done with it. That massive 16-bit crash that heralded the massive success of the 3DO and Jaguar. After all nobody in 1994 wanted any 16-bit games, especially ones featuring a hedgehog or monkey. They were dead in the water, everyone simply had to play Crash N Burn.

None of you zoomer niggas owned a Dreamcast. Stop larping you always online terminally schizophrenic DRM gacha obsessed F2P idiots. Dreamcast was a real gamer console.

>>717107270
>it didn't happen because the jaguar and CDI existed as wrong answers to market demand

>>717098508 (OP)
Sega at least still makes games

>>717107508
The demand was so fervent that exactly one of the 32-bit consoles was a success.

>>717107671
And none of the 64-bit ones were. lmao.

>>717107507
>Dreamcast was a real gamer console.
Never forget.

>>717107772
If you mean the N64 then you're even more delusional, since it sold better than every Sega console that isn't called the Genesis and those failed 32-bit consoles combined.

>>717107989
Lol he took the bait again.

>>717108087
You really got me there, say something objectively wrong and get told you're a retard. God tier troll.

>>717108173
NDF you don't need to be this transparent. You're showing your hand too much.

>>717108313
>anyone who accepts reality is an NDF
Those voices in your head sound reasonable.

>>717107507
I own one

Atari was on top of the fucking world, to the point of their name being almost synonymous with "videogames". Then they shat out two stinkers and helped crash the home console market entirely.

Sega lasted longer and at least died gracefully without taking the whole market with them.

>>717108519
Fair