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Anonymous No.717104845 >>717105139 >>717106392 >>717106748 >>717109496 >>717110360 >>717111736 >>717112786 >>717113118 >>717113665 >>717114795 >>717115025 >>717115115 >>717115442 >>717115539 >>717115635 >>717115836 >>717116041 >>717116326 >>717116464 >>717117047 >>717118663 >>717118732 >>717120052 >>717120260 >>717121874 >>717122236 >>717122650 >>717122764 >>717123989 >>717125685 >>717125745 >>717127313 >>717127743 >>717127774 >>717127884 >>717129832 >>717131472 >>717131625 >>717132248 >>717133052 >>717133625 >>717138930 >>717139527
Battlefield Anti Cheat
>Multiple security features built into Windows required
>kernel level anti cheat
>game costs $70
You're gonna need like $500 in cheating dedicated hardware, a $50 a month subscription to keep up to date, plus $70 for a new copy of the game and a new motherboard every time you get banned. Cheaters in fucking shambles.
Anonymous No.717105139 >>717105367 >>717106112 >>717106212 >>717107212 >>717116456
>>717104845 (OP)
Its the same anti cheat that BF2042 is using and got patched into older games like BF1 and BFV,they just renamed it to "Javelin". In BF5 on EU servers there still are chink refugees with rage aimbots despite of that, just like it was before lmao. Reminder that there are more and more cheaters in Valorant too.
Anonymous No.717105367 >>717105816 >>717106196 >>717111937 >>717112704 >>717134802
>>717105139
Everyone who plays Valorant says it has way less cheaters than any F2P FPS. And those other Battlefields don't require TPM and secureboot.
Anonymous No.717105816 >>717106128 >>717110257
>>717105367
BF2042 does since May and 8.80 update and there are still niggers livestreaming on tiktok and youtube while playing with cheats. I didnt said this doesnt reduce amount of changs and ivans aimbotting with public cheat engines. Instead raping your PC kernel with malware tier telemetry they should just give community servers rcons so people can ban those cockroaches instead of relying on cancerous malware like that.
Anonymous No.717106112
>>717105139
This OP is a faggot.
Anonymous No.717106128 >>717106472
>>717105816
>oh no my hekkin kernal! think of the kernals!
Anonymous No.717106196
>>717105367
Everyone who plays Valorant is a shitter that doesn't even know when people are doing to the most basic bitch cheating because you die to one bullet in that game.
Anonymous No.717106212 >>717107212
>>717105139
Damn they added that BIOS shit to BF1? I was thinking of reinstalling
Anonymous No.717106247
Please kill yourself marketeer. Not even the average vermin is stupid enough to believe your obvious lies. Go to reddit instead please.
Anonymous No.717106392 >>717109381 >>717135796
>>717104845 (OP)
>kernel level anti cheat
hard skip, people spectating cheaters, recording demos and also calling the admin on ICQ to come and check suspicious players were a better anticheat.
Anonymous No.717106472
>>717106128
Sorry im not a golem cockroach like you. Better prepare that ID to play the game in future lil negro.
Anonymous No.717106502
saars please do upgrate to Mossad11 soon as posibel
Anonymous No.717106748 >>717110345 >>717128184 >>717132069
>>717104845 (OP)
>kernel tpm secure boot
so no superior OS aka Linux support
how does Linux automatically filter all the shit games
Anonymous No.717107023 >>717109502
>2005
>Sony sneaks rootkits onto people's computers with music CD's
>They get legally raped for it all over the map
>2025
>Games force rootkits onto people's computers
>Normalfags all love it, I mean how else are we going to get our shooty pewpew fun?
Anonymous No.717107212 >>717107314 >>717107434 >>717108307 >>717111432 >>717115706
>>717105139
>patched into older games like BF1
why are you lying
>>717106212
no, Im playing BF1 without any of that pozzed garbage
Anonymous No.717107314
>>717107212
Neat, thanks anon
Anonymous No.717107434 >>717107948
>>717107212
https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam-deck/battlefield-1-anti-cheat

Nigger faggot.
Anonymous No.717107435
717105816
based esl
Anonymous No.717107948 >>717108063 >>717111432
>>717107434
KYS
Anonymous No.717108063 >>717108148
>>717107948
Read the thread you subhuman.
Anonymous No.717108148
>>717108063
I'm playing BF1, now go back to your savage continent to eat your bananas and build mudhuts tyrone.
Anonymous No.717108307 >>717108742
>>717107212
>BF1 without any of that pozzed garbage
>negroes in german army and more
lol.
Anonymous No.717108742 >>717109316
>>717108307
>cand differentiate a game's content from the system requirements
YWNBHT
(you will never be human tyrone)
LOL, LMAO EVEN
Anonymous No.717109316 >>717109478
>>717108742
youre playing negro worship game
Anonymous No.717109381 >>717113438
>>717106392
>people spectating cheaters, recording demos and also calling the admin on ICQ to come and check suspicious players
Those were the days.
Anonymous No.717109478 >>717109575 >>717109852
>>717109316
the discussion was about the anti sheat and you got completely DESTROYED in front of everyone
literally end your shit life immediately
lol
Anonymous No.717109496
>>717104845 (OP)
They did this to Battlefield 2042 in an update a couple months ago too. Immediately uninstalled because I'm not fucking with my BIOS to play a game.
Anonymous No.717109502
>>717107023
Death to zoomers
Anonymous No.717109520 >>717110042 >>717118250 >>717119917
Of all the fake outrages /v/ has wanted me to subscribe to over the years the one I understand the least is when we pretend to be mad over cheaters getting btfo.
Anonymous No.717109575
>>717109478
*cheat
Anonymous No.717109852
>>717109478
You didnt read the thread like a shitskin you are. I above stated that indeed only BF2024 since Update 8.80 requires TMP while BF1 and V do not despite getting updates with Javelin. A fact you cannot be bothered to read the thread properly means you are single digit IQ shitskin subhuman baboon. You are lowest life form in the universe.
Anonymous No.717110042
>>717109520
>cheaters getting btfo
lol, lmao even
Anonymous No.717110257 >>717123548
>>717105816
That would require them to provide DEDICATED SERVER HOSTING and allow players to HOST THEIR SERVERS long after EA turns THEIRS off, we CAN'T HAVE THAT.

SHUT. IT. DOWN. Goy.

Honestly though, BF4Bans or whatever was just as shitty as EA's anti-cheat.
Anonymous No.717110345
>>717106748
Linux DOES support TPM and Secure Boot, it depends on the distro. Arch needs it off to INSTALL but you can turn it back on after and it'll run fine.
Anonymous No.717110360 >>717110505 >>717110727 >>717110920 >>717113629 >>717118250 >>717120493 >>717121835 >>717125192 >>717127662 >>717135938
>>717104845 (OP)
Give me an honest non meme answer:

How does TPM and secure boot prevent people from cheating?
Anonymous No.717110505
>>717110360
It doesn't.
Anonymous No.717110727
>>717110360
>prevent cheating?
Anonymous No.717110920
>>717110360
It's a security feature built into windows that makes it so you can't load unauthorized software into the boot sequence. It's been required for almost a decade in all hardware that comes pre installed with windows.
Anonymous No.717111432
>>717107212
>why are you lying
He's not? EA's anti-cheat was patched in.

>>717107948
>B-B-BUT I MEANT TPM AND SECURE BOO--
That doesn't change that anon's post, you gigantic retard. **EA'S ANTI-CHEAT** was patched in. It doesn't require TPM like this version does.
Anonymous No.717111736
>>717104845 (OP)
not my problem
anyone who buys this slop deserves it
Anonymous No.717111937
>>717105367
Valorant doesn't even have demos/replays so you cant actually go back and look if someone was blatantly cheating. You just have to take riots word for it lmao
Anonymous No.717111985 >>717112326
dont cheat then?
whats there not to understand
Anonymous No.717112326 >>717112524 >>717112696
>>717111985
None of this will stop cheating, it'll be the same as every previous Battlefield game where every NA server is full of 300 ping players from china and cheaters that can fly around for weeks at a time before being banned.
Anonymous No.717112406
>anticheat
Every game has it and the 360 headshots you mid air across the map is more rampant than ever.

Give me back dedicated servers.
Anonymous No.717112524 >>717112720
>>717112326
EUfag here I exclusively play on NA servers because less russians.
Anonymous No.717112613 >>717113004
>all these people with helldivers 2 installed on their computer complaining about kernel anti-cheat
Anonymous No.717112696 >>717122395
>>717112326
never said it will stop cheating
there's always gonna be some neckbeard that thinks he needs to spend 30 bucks to cheat
Anonymous No.717112704
>>717105367
valorant has a lot of cheaters bro
Anonymous No.717112720
>>717112524
Unfortunately this is also part of the problem, half of every NA server consists of people from Europe or SA with a ping of 120+, adding to the laggy experience.
Anonymous No.717112786 >>717112820 >>717114445 >>717114710 >>717118310 >>717126752 >>717135938
>>717104845 (OP)
a kernel level anti cheat has never ever worked lmao. literal snake oil. community servers. that's your anti cheat.
Anonymous No.717112820 >>717113171
>>717112786
Retard
Anonymous No.717113004 >>717127269
>>717112613
EAC didn't require tpm 2.0
Anonymous No.717113118 >>717113561
>>717104845 (OP)
>TPM enabled
don't have that shit lol
>secure boot enabled
will never use this lol
guess I'm not going to play Call of Duty:Battlefield Edition.
Anonymous No.717113171 >>717113676
>>717112820
call of duty
valorant
delta force
all infested with cheaters LMAO
Anonymous No.717113438 >>717116889
>>717109381
This still happens in more niche games and it's more effective than the big corpo's that tell the consumer to eat shit and enable every dubious form of anticheat possible so that the cheaters can still just kill them anyways and take 3 weeks to get banned at the very least (if ever).
Anonymous No.717113551 >>717113631 >>717132941
Why are you baitposting about things turned on by default on Windows? Also these specs look better than I expected and 75gb at launch is not bad at all. I still won't buy this cause fuck paying 70 bugs but EA usually is good about optimization and the games not being broken messes.
Anonymous No.717113561 >>717113762
>>717113118
>don't have that shit lol
>>secure boot enabled
>will never use this lol
hackers you got free entry
Anonymous No.717113629
>>717110360
it doesnt prevent cheating by itself.
its just a extra security check layer for booting the game to deter people from running linux (cheaters use linux a lot)
Anonymous No.717113631 >>717113813
>>717113551
every BF game on release (and usually most of its lifespan) is a broken mess
Anonymous No.717113665
>>717104845 (OP)
I think everyone is missing something there.
>recommended
>DLSS settings listed in recommended graphics (Balanced and Performance)
>almost no performance difference from high 1440p and low 1080p settings
It's optimized like dogshit.
Anonymous No.717113676
>>717113171
The funny thing about delta force is that its the only game in history where the anti cheat malfunctioned for me. The version of the anti cheat they use has a bug where it straight up crashes the game if you play it on Asus laptops. I got in the discord and I typed the issue in the bug report channel and I was banned from the discord 2 minutes after kek. Dleta Force is so fucking pathetic.
Anonymous No.717113762 >>717118860
>>717113561
That's not how it works. You must be one of the people "Advising" the developers and boardroom members about how anticheat works.
Anonymous No.717113813 >>717113951 >>717130214
>>717113631
tech wise its never been the case. BF4, 1, 5, 2042 and the battlefront games all ran incredibly well on low end hardware at release. BF1 ran at 120fps on my shitty laptop back when it came out.
Anonymous No.717113910 >>717114059 >>717114436 >>717114869
The "security center" on my pc already told me to turn that stuff on to keep me safe from hackers or whatever so I did and it works fine. Why am I supposed to rise up over this and why shouldn't I use it? Did hackers trying to hack my pc make this thread?
Anonymous No.717113951
>>717113813
They could run at 400 fps and they'd still be a broken mess of bugs and poorly thought out mechanics. Gameplay anon, G a m e p l a y.
Anonymous No.717114059
>>717113910
neckbeards are mad it doesn't work on linux.
Anonymous No.717114436 >>717120168
>>717113910
My computer hardware is better than the recommended specs and doesn't support TPM2.0. Nor do I want to use secure boot because I do more than play normieshit on my pc.
>inb4 linuxfag
Windows 10
I don't understand why they have something like a 3700x listed for recommended but there aren't even AM4 motherboards that support TPM2.0. You have to use AMD's "fake" TPM in the bios settings.
Anonymous No.717114445 >>717114516 >>717117956
>>717112786
Community servers are only remotely effective anticheats because they usually just ban anybody whose too good. Though the modern anon is probably perfectly happy with that.
Anonymous No.717114516 >>717114729 >>717119259 >>717127591
>>717114445
yeah totally bro every battle field and cs server just banned anyone thats good. totally bro they weren't hacking bro totally bro everyone in the servers were just shit cause the admins banned anyone that was good. you dumb fuck.
Anonymous No.717114710 >>717115084
>>717112786
Yeah I fucking love getting kicked from a ""community server"" because the mod decided he doesn't like weapon x and rule 143 out of 3500 is no weapon x.
Anonymous No.717114729 >>717114773 >>717114786 >>717114882 >>717125005
>>717114516
I got banned multiple times despite never cheating. I'm sure that was never an issue for you though.
Anonymous No.717114773 >>717116167
>>717114729
sure you did
Anonymous No.717114786 >>717116167
>>717114729
yup you totally never cheated bro we believe you. meanwhile almost every cs pro has never been banned
Anonymous No.717114795
>>717104845 (OP)
>You're gonna need like $500 in cheating dedicated hardware
I don't think controllers have ever been that expensive.
Anonymous No.717114869
>>717113910
the hackers are inside the house thanks to these hardware features
Anonymous No.717114882 >>717116167
>>717114729
>I got banned multiple times despite never cheating
Anonymous No.717115025 >>717117539
>>717104845 (OP)
pretty sure there aren't 100m gamers with these features lmao
Anonymous No.717115084
>>717114710
then go join another server that doesn't have those rules you fucking autosniper faggot.
Anonymous No.717115115
>>717104845 (OP)
>TPM emulated
>UEFI OVMF_Code propagated
>HVCI and VBS integrated
>Almonds activated
You just need a patched qemu and kernel, these anticheats are a joke. I don't cheat nor do I play battleslop though.
Anonymous No.717115442 >>717115664 >>717115901 >>717126827
>>717104845 (OP)
EA's anti-cheat shit is fucking atrocious. Not only does it not prevent cheaters at all since all of the Battlefield and Battlefront games are utterly infested with them, but it also makes the games unstable and crash constantly.
Anonymous No.717115539 >>717115746
>>717104845 (OP)
I wonder if my gtx1070 will run this
Anonymous No.717115635
>>717104845 (OP)
isnt this just the anti cheat 2042 and apex has kek
Anonymous No.717115664 >>717115805 >>717120919
>>717115442
Fact check: The older games that got this backported suddenly became playable again after that update. I'm not saying this solves all problems but it sure as shit helped a lot.
Anonymous No.717115706
>>717107212
I just tried booting up BF1 and it gave me the exact same "SECURITY VIOLATION" message that 2042 does now. Never had any issues with any of the Battlefield games before these changes.
Anonymous No.717115746
>>717115539
Says right there that it will. How well on the other hand we'll see next weekend.

t. coping 5700xt haver
Anonymous No.717115805 >>717115879 >>717115901
>>717115664
No they didn't, shut the fuck up jeet shill. It utterly broke the games, BF1 barely functions now.
Anonymous No.717115836 >>717115907 >>717116041
>>717104845 (OP)
>16 ram
do i look like a billionaire?
Anonymous No.717115879 >>717116279
>>717115805
Try uninstalling your totally not-cheats bro that might be the problem.
Anonymous No.717115901 >>717116023 >>717116110
>>717115442
>>717115805

Bro, I don't think I've ever had a battlefield game crash on me
Anonymous No.717115907 >>717116135
>>717115836
I had 16GB of RAM in 2013
Anonymous No.717116023 >>717121013
>>717115901
I used to say this to people when I played 2042 then suddenly it started crashing constantly for me. It's a finicky game. Runs great though.
Anonymous No.717116041
>>717115836
>>717104845 (OP)
>dual channel ram
do I look like a trillionaire
Anonymous No.717116110
>>717115901
2042 has always crashed near hourly for me. And the secure boot only made it worse. BF1 doesn't even launch anymore and EA anti-cheat thinks my motherboard and GPU are """incompatible drivers""""
Anonymous No.717116135
>>717115907
yeah ok mr rich man
Anonymous No.717116167 >>717116245
>>717114773
>>717114882
Yeah? Do you really think this is some super uncommon thing? I also got kicked from TF2 matches a lot for 'hacking'. Most people are not good at telling when someone's hacking unless it's incredibly blatant.
>>717114786
>meanwhile almost every cs pro has never been banned
A couple of them actually did get banned because of the community anticheat where people could watch reported players and determine whether or not they were hacking. Which is probably part of why they don't use it anymore. A community server is similar except it only requires one retard to ban you and has none of the systems in place to try and see if he knows what he's talking about.
Anonymous No.717116245 >>717116408
>>717116167
>Do you really think this is some super uncommon thing?
Cheaters saying they didn't do nothing? Not at all.
Anonymous No.717116279
>>717115879
I have never cheated in my life. They broke their games. Just kill yourself, genuinely.
Anonymous No.717116326
>>717104845 (OP)
i played the test weekend that was like, a month or 2 ago? and i didn't seem anywhere near ready for an open beta. don't think it'll be like the utter disaster of 2042, more just generally rough and lots of unfinished shit and doesn't seem they even have a concrete idea of design goals, they are still figuring out if they want to pander to the class restrictions, or no restrictions, or no restrictions but debuffs for non-class weapons tribes.

but its the same shit with Skate. supposed to be "launching" this year (they'll call it early access or whatever, but its launching).

a bold new direction for EA. i mean whatever crimes they committed, i remember they at least used to sell complete games.
Anonymous No.717116408 >>717116501 >>717116808
>>717116245
Fair point but do you really believe the average server admin is so infallible?
Anonymous No.717116456
>>717105139
I'm one of the rare fags who still actually plays bf2042 on pc. The anticheat may as well not exist despite how invasive it is. Every time there's a sale you'll get 15% or more of every lobby blatantly cheating. And there are some who don't get banned for months despite aimlocking in every match. Honestly, the price tag of the game itself is the only thing that seems to be effective.
Anonymous No.717116464 >>717116772 >>717117507 >>717117681
>>717104845 (OP)
I remember watching some pretty informative video about cheat techniques, and that shit is so absurd no developer can even hope to stop it.
>Special board in PCI slot which dumps the whole memory (bypassing anything anticheat has access to) to a separate PC that runs cheating software
>Microcontrollers between your GPU and display doing all kinds of shit
>Various spoofing methods that can't be dealt with by anything you install on PC
No matter how much you cuck an average player with a rootkit anticheat, someone who wants to cheat will find a way to do so, and you won't be able to do anything about it. But at the same time I won't be installing your rootkit games, sorry not sorry.
Anonymous No.717116501
>>717116408
Of course not so if we're talking about you getting kicked by some butthurt admin of a server and not centrally banned these are completely different things.
Anonymous No.717116772
>>717116464
Probably this one, it was all over the place last year.
https://youtu.be/RwzIq04vd0M
Anonymous No.717116790
Cheating is widely accepted even in tournaments. What's the issue?
Anonymous No.717116808
>>717116408
If you get banned for 'cheating' from a server then you know that server was shit. Most servers were run really well with competent admins. If it's a popular game there are hundreds of servers.
Anonymous No.717116889
>>717113438
BlackSquad was downgraded from Battleye which was at least banning people, whit Gameguard.

When game was in beta/ea it had ESL support and two layers of check so that nobody could join competitive without being properly screened.

Now, I don't know what happened, I do have played competitive but didn't make the cut to ESL cause the ceiling was higher than Cobra rank and I could only play that much before breaking out due boredom. Cheat accusation started as per usual, some clips were posted on YT, some clips posted and DEEPLY ANAlyzed on le reddit, turns out that two or three major players did indeed cheat.

My brother excuses left and right, game lost ESL support after season two, it turned into a cheating fest, they addressed Battleye issue which saved the game for probably two weeks, past that cheaters were getting banned and coming back to cheat with the very same account. A year or two later with the game now under shitty Valofe's hands, game was verily dead, they sneak up Gameguard AC forcing people to downgrade to W10 or else, nothing was ever fixed, other than making it more heavy and laggy despite hardware being way above recommended system requirements, people still cheat and they have probably 3k players left, competitive is a shitshow since 2020 and those fuckers by adding that rootkit fixed literally nothing.

Whilst with the good ol days method, those cheaters would have be banned by us in 3 minutes, an hour tops, but nope AC will protect us from cheaters, sure.
Anonymous No.717117047 >>717117112 >>717117352 >>717118778 >>717121912
>>717104845 (OP)
>kernel level anti cheat
This phrase has become such a fucking meme. I wonder if anyone who says this shit knows what they're even saying.
Anonymous No.717117112
>>717117047
It's the new "memory leak"
Anonymous No.717117352 >>717122081
>>717117047
Most people need it explained to them, and still likely don't understand it. Normie NPC's are usually too dumb to get why its bad and continue to play the awful AAA/Chinese slop that use it.
Anonymous No.717117507 >>717118524
>>717116464
>someone who wants to cheat will find a way to do so
Like how someone who wants to break into your house will find a way. Yet you still lock your door, don't you?
Anonymous No.717117539 >>717117742
>>717115025
theres a 100 million and more gamers with consoles that can launch the game, probably much less on PC which stopped being the main audience loooooooong ago
Anonymous No.717117561 >>717117643
The only time I've ever been banned from a battlefield community server was in BF2. The server had 1 singular rule and I specifically broke that rule.
>"Commanders can't be helicopter gunners"
>proceed to do exactly that
>get 50 kills and constantly calling in artillery/ammo/intel
>my team is demolishing the enemy
>"gee I wonder why this is a rule on the server"
>banned within 10 minutes for 24 hours
Meanwhile big servers with 7 layers of anticheat, kernal level access to your computer, and mandates that you """"aren't allowed"""" to use any program on your PC that microsoft doesn't sign off on
>blatant cheater noclipping around
takes days to get banned
>aimbotter
70% chance they don't get banned
>wallhacker
Never banned unless a youtuber with a company contact watches replays.
Anonymous No.717117643
>>717117561
mean mainstream corporate run servers, not big servers
Anonymous No.717117681
>>717116464
All of those techniques are significantly more technical and expensive than just downloading software from the internet. Not stopping the few people willing to pay thousands of dollars for access to a private cheat doesn't mean that stricter anticheats are a failure.
Anonymous No.717117742
>>717117539
Wow 100 million?! Why do games struggle to break past a couple million then?
Anonymous No.717117748 >>717117910 >>717119348
Just play on PlayStation 5 bro
Anonymous No.717117910
>>717117748
I will be
Anonymous No.717117956 >>717118670
>>717114445
this is valid for modern gamers, not so valid for the 1999 to 2009-ish era of gaming.

On CoD it was a different story though, I played on CuF server, we had PB active, admins decided to get rid of it cause the gun and run server had many mods who created conflicts and crashed both connected clients and the server itself. We were a self moderated community, nevertheless people from another clan who for me and many others were dirty, did cheat, I made clips and demos of them cheating, they were simply told to remove tags and change nicknames and they kept on cheating, but we managed to force admins to keep them under control, so many times if they connected to cheat and do their rounds and found people like me who were online 18 hours a day, they simply had to GTFO.

CuF also had some internal cheating problems, different members were caught and banned but I wasn't partaking their drama so gg. On the MTL server admin/console was present nearly 24/7, if people had to cheat they had to be very good at it cause they stand no chances.

Let's see what else, Flashpoint and ArmA had a cheating problem, this was on different tiers, specially with TKC running two sometimes three community server under the tags of J4F, 1st Guns/NoRE and the remnants of the SF clan, their server was a cheating paradise, but if you run the TKC client you were getting banned upon respawning, I've inspected their client and found why I could not cheat on their server, but I could easily cheat on a server on which I was also an admin and we had heavy check for it, found also that they were using renamed addons/mods such as a complete sound replacement mod which also changed value of weapons and armor. They tried many times to cheat on one of ours CTI server and failed cause I was present, but yeah you had many ways to cheat on OFP, everyone knew that and good players always avoid those servers and moved to small ones.
Anonymous No.717118250 >>717119940 >>717126905
>>717109520
non-whites are most common cheaters

4chan and the internet in general is like 90% non-white these days

do the math on why "/v/" would be upset

>>717110360
Anonymous No.717118310
>>717112786
The only way this works is if everyone moved over to faceit kino. Otherwise you just end up with the blind leading the blind since the majority of server jannies suck at spotting anything other than the most blatant spinbotter.
Anonymous No.717118524 >>717140207
>>717117507
except this is more like having an untrustworthy company with a poor track record install cameras inside your house including one in your toilet
they're doing it to make sure you don't break into their company hq
Anonymous No.717118663
>>717104845 (OP)
EA's anticheat is cancerous dogshit made by actual retarded people. It does nothing but flag legitimate files and processes in your BIOS/sys32/GPU drivers/etc and EA support pajeets with even fewer braincells tell you to delete them (which you should never fucking do)
Anonymous No.717118670
>>717117956
the only clan who kicked for us being too good were a couple of italian ones, then a coop server the LOL one, who at his very beginning banned us cause they put a CTF server and me and another guy who at the time were playing comp pretty much every day, simple outsmarted them in any type of way.

Same problems did happen on America's Army, worst shit probably on Enemy Territory but I don't want to remember my experience in that mess, let me just say that RTCW online was better than ET, ET only added elitism and primadonna effect. On 2008 but mostly with modern games, specially with Sniper Elite V2, L4D and whatever spawned during that period of time, rage bans skyrocket to the stars. On L4D2 I had literally to stay more put than usual and sneakily use shortcuts, cause people playing scavenge against or with me hated me with a passion. I do understand why shitty matchmaking system exists, that thing is for pussies, it creates a cancerous environment, you can carry all you fucking want but if someone is a complete server slot filler, he will never improve and stay silver for the rest of his fucking and miserable live, they contribute to nothing but complaints forcing devs to take measures and do shitty stuff that damages both the game itself and good players who get stuck with them due MM system forcing 5 losses and 5 wins, that's pure shit and I refuse to touch any game with this kind of system.
Anonymous No.717118732 >>717119391 >>717119443
>>717104845 (OP)
>TPM 2.0 enabled
Is this the first game to actually require it? lol
Anonymous No.717118778
>>717117047
Just like "netcode", no, they have no fucking idea what the kernel even is.
Anonymous No.717118860 >>717131210
>>717113762
its exactly how it works
go run unsigned software dumbfuck
Anonymous No.717119259 >>717119367 >>717121812
>>717114516
lots of servers would just ban you if you killed an admin or their buttbudy, I still think community servers should be brought back though it was a badge of honor getting banned by some faggot admin for shitting on them
Anonymous No.717119348
>>717117748
>FPS
>on a controller
Yuck
Anonymous No.717119367 >>717119514
>>717119259
Listen if you go to a server titled NOOB FRIENDLY NEW PLAYERS WELCOME and you start shitting on everyone including the noob admin you deserve to be banned
Anonymous No.717119391 >>717121497
>>717118732
A basic feature for windows 11? Lol
Anonymous No.717119443
>>717118732
No, most recent Chinese games require it. First one I've seen to require VBS and HVCI though. Both of those are known for tanking PC performance.
Anonymous No.717119514 >>717119738 >>717120112
>>717119367
buddy you know it happens in more than just muh noob friendly servers you're just being a disingenuous faggot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zedro3aiS80
Anonymous No.717119738 >>717119813
>>717119514
??? this is MW2 you fucking retarded faggot. this is matchmaking on a hacked lobby
Anonymous No.717119813 >>717119851
>>717119738
its the same shit the same type of people are the ones booting people for killing them once with a gun they don't like because they are literal manchildren
Anonymous No.717119851 >>717119902
>>717119813
no it's not the same shit you fucking MORON
Anonymous No.717119902 >>717119965
>>717119851
it literally is
Anonymous No.717119917
>>717109520
>He thinks EA anti-cheat works
LMAO. Battlefield: Vagina still has as many cheaters it had with Easy as it does with EA Anti-cheat.
Anonymous No.717119940
>>717118250
and none of this works, unsurprisingly
Anonymous No.717119965 >>717120083
>>717119902
it literally fucking isn't. if you dont understand the difference then you're a fucking 20 yr old zoomer.
Anonymous No.717120052 >>717121812
>>717104845 (OP)
I think the simplest way to get rid of cheaters is to nuke beijing and moscow
problem solved
Anonymous No.717120083
>>717119965
dude battlefield 4 had servers where they'd kick you if your kd was too high, not like impossibly high either
Anonymous No.717120112 >>717120354 >>717120681
>>717119514
>spamming rpgs
>gets kicked
Is there supposed to be a problem here?
Anonymous No.717120168 >>717120790
>>717114436
>My computer hardware is better than the recommended specs and doesn't support TPM2.0
>doesn't support
Anon... if your computer TRULY is "better than recommended specs" it *DOES HAVE* TPM 2.0. TPM 2.0 has been a thing since like... 2013.
Anonymous No.717120260 >>717120747
>>717104845 (OP)
They already require UEFI secboot in 2042. Why are you surprised?
Anonymous No.717120354
>>717120112
>losing match by a fucking ton
>guy has died 4 times before he finally gets 1 kill
>2 of the 3 kills he gets are with normal guns
>gets one kill with an rpg
>tranny with a mod menu/or private server admin gets so assblasted his streak broke he boots the guy
yea spamming rpgs lmao
Anonymous No.717120493
>>717110360
it doesn't. EA are just massive faggots making you do a bunch of bullshit
Anonymous No.717120656 >>717120726 >>717120783
Is anybody running Windows 10 who recently enabled Secure Boot for this shit? Most people I see having no problems enabling it seem to be W11 users. Trying to decide if I want to bother with it or not.
Anonymous No.717120681
>>717120112
>shoot rpg
>money stolen
Anonymous No.717120726 >>717120837
>>717120656
If you didn't specifically disable it in the BIOS and your PC is less than 15 years old, chances are you already have all the requirements enabled.
Anonymous No.717120747
>>717120260
They didn't at launch though, they retroactively started requiring it in BFV and BF1 a few months ago when they backported they Javelin anticheat bullshit
Anonymous No.717120783 >>717120918
>>717120656
I'm on w10 and enabled it, it was automatically turned off in my bios but my mobo supported it so I turned it on for bf6
Anonymous No.717120790 >>717120884 >>717120917
>>717120168
TPM 2.0 has not been standard until W11 sent a shockwave through the industry by requiring it.
Best I can do is AMD fTPM that tricks windows into thinking 2.0 is enabled.
Anonymous No.717120837
>>717120726
I built mine in 2022 on a 12th gen Intel MSI board. It has all the necessary requirements to be ABLE to enable Secure Boot, but its disabled out of the box.
Anonymous No.717120884
>>717120790
>that tricks
That's not a trick, that's what TPM is.
99% of motherboards from the last 7 years use the TPM embedded in the CPU rather than a dedicated module like old motherboards.
Anonymous No.717120917
>>717120790
everything from like 2013 was required to support it or some shit, its just by default disabled
Anonymous No.717120918 >>717121004
>>717120783
any problems at all? I've seen some people say it fucked up their boot process
Anonymous No.717120919
>>717115664
LMAO no it didn't. Maybe for like two weeks while cheat makers had to see what was detected/changed but it has the same amount of cheaters as it did before Easy/no-anti-cheat.

Like, I only saw FairFight banning people on BF:WW1 for LAUNCH MONTH and haven't seen FF notifications since.
Anonymous No.717121004 >>717121443 >>717121797
>>717120918
I'm not having any issues so far no
Anonymous No.717121013 >>717121143 >>717121209 >>717121504 >>717121526
>>717116023
>Runs great though.
*SSD needed

That's not "running great," that's shit code. If you have to rely on Mark Cerny's Magical Negro SSD tech to stream your game instead of 1970's tech, you've fucking failed as a developer.

>BUT MUH BOTTLENE--
Hard-drive should NOT be a bottle neck. Try again.
Anonymous No.717121143 >>717133747
>>717121013
>doesn't work on my vooodoo3dfx shit game
Anonymous No.717121209
>>717121013
>bitching about needing an SSD in fucking 2025
You're not a real person holy fuck
Anonymous No.717121410
They already raped me with the kernal level anti-cheat I was willing to tolerate, the secure boot shit just feels like they're punching me in the back of the head on top of it. Fuck that
Anonymous No.717121443 >>717121641 >>717121797
>>717121004
Good to hear, anon. I just flipped it on too after letting it sit disabled since like 2022 and was sweating bullets on reboot but it went smooth. Guess the horror stories only really hit when people messed with CSM or didn't install in UEFI mode to begin with.
Anonymous No.717121497
>>717119391
You can bypass that easily, I disable it on all of my computers with Windows 11. It's just a backdoor for the government.
Anonymous No.717121504 >>717121673
>>717121013
>1TB SSD: $15
>1TB HDD: $30
How fucking poor are you that you defend a storage medium that costs twice as much just because you haven't been able to upgrade your PC in over 15 years?
Anonymous No.717121526 >>717121608 >>717121695
>>717121013
>complaining about SSD's
https://files.catbox.moe/nu8p3p.mp4
Anonymous No.717121608
>>717121526
>blew all his money on RGB
>no money for SSD
Anonymous No.717121641
>>717121443
I wouldn't be surprised if the horror stories were just related to fucked windows installs, like not long ago I had an old HDD start making some noises and I tried to remove it since it was pretty loud and I guess windows installed some boot files on it for some reason, it wasn't the OS drive but removing it made windows not boot so I had to do a full reinstall and I made sure only the drive I wanted the OS on was connected before installing so it wouldn't fuck up somehow again
Anonymous No.717121673
>>717121504
>1tb SSD
>$15
That chinese shit is actuawlly 64bg with scam firmware.
Anonymous No.717121695
>>717121526
>3rd worlder living on less than $2 a day has a nicer house with a nicer view and a nicer PC and a nicer phone than I do in the US making $7000 a month.
Anonymous No.717121797 >>717122091
>>717121004
>>717121443
What motherboard manufacture are you guys running? Mines MSI. Kinda curious if it matters, I've seen a few with Gigabyte boards specifically have problems but it might just be anecdotal.
Anonymous No.717121812 >>717121883
>>717119259
I've eaten plenty of random buttbuddy bans and not a single one was when I was actually being a botting little shithead on CS1.6. Hell on some of the servers I ended up learning that more of the 'skilled' regulars would just blatantly stare at and track people's heads through walls and they never ate bans either. I don't really trust community admins to catch anything but the most obvious hacks.
>>717120052
This seems like the most reasonable solution.
Anonymous No.717121835
>>717110360
No, they're only a security feature for preventing physical MITM attacks on-boot. TPM can do some OS level stuff (put the bitlocker keys in it for Windows, and I guess Linux in a way if you use EFS), but they're generally for UEFI/BIOS only with SecureBoot only kicking in to make sure the "key" for the OS(es) are valid on boot.

EA asking for it just them taking MS's dick since MS is asking Win11 installs to require them. Most PC's now a days will have both on, but a lot of legacy enterprise software from like 2010-2012 won't despite some having TPM 1.0-2.0 in them.
Anonymous No.717121874 >>717122010 >>717122405
>>717104845 (OP)
It's the same anti-cheat system that's been in all EA games since 2042 I think. Similar anti-cheats have been implemented in Valorant and pretty much any multiplayer game by now.
Nothing new. Ragebait thread.
Anonymous No.717121883
>>717121812
all the good servers had admins sit in spectate with wallhacks on spectating everybody kek
Anonymous No.717121912
>>717117047
10 rupees have been deposited to your account saar
EA shills from bangalore hard at work today
Anonymous No.717121935
Would be quite tragic if I had any inclination to play easchlop
Anonymous No.717122010
>>717121874
>Since 2042
False nuke. It wasn't required until like two or three months ago.
Anonymous No.717122081 >>717122247 >>717122432
>>717117352
Bro, someone I know runs every game and even Discord as ADMIN because he runs a ton of other shit as ADMIN and it causes everything to conflict so he just runs everything as ADMIN. Nobody gives a shit about "muh kernel"
Anonymous No.717122091
>>717121797
mines an older ASRock
Anonymous No.717122236 >>717122592
>>717104845 (OP)
I'm not bricking my PC to play a fucking video game
Anonymous No.717122247
>>717122081
>runs attack vectors as admin
glorious undermining of the system
Anonymous No.717122395
>>717112696
>never said
>dont cheat then?
Ok, anon.
Anonymous No.717122405
>>717121874
Popular doesn't mean it's safe niggerzoomer
Anonymous No.717122432
>>717122081
whoa what a badass
Anonymous No.717122592 >>717122901 >>717122952
>>717122236
If you don't run secureboot and use TPM then you are risking bricking your PC.
Anonymous No.717122650
>>717104845 (OP)
fuck battlefield
id rather play nortubel
Anonymous No.717122764
>>717104845 (OP)
Yeah, sure, OP. Sure...
Fucking retards fall for the same lies over and over again. Fuck is sake.
Anonymous No.717122901 >>717123127
>>717122592
SecureBoot isn't even enabled by default aside from maybe the absolute newest W11 builds and BIOS versions.
Anonymous No.717122952 >>717123175 >>717123175
>>717122592
From?
Anonymous No.717123004
>2042 isn't even in the in-game client
what did they mean by this
Anonymous No.717123127 >>717123384
>>717122901
SecureBoot has been around since fucking WIndows 8 and is even supported on Linux. It comes default on devices sold with Windows 8 or later installed.
Anonymous No.717123159 >>717123270
They aren't doing battlelog shit anymore right? The server browser is actually in the game instead of a webpage that opens the game? That shit was always really fucking annoying to me when playing 3/4/Hardline
Anonymous No.717123175 >>717123413
>>717122952
>>717122952
ransomware
Anonymous No.717123270 >>717123381
>>717123159
Did you play Battlefield 1?
Anonymous No.717123381 >>717123554
>>717123270
no, I don't really care about ww1/2 shooters
Anonymous No.717123384 >>717123632
>>717123127
False. It may have existed since then but it's not enabled right out of the box. My source you might ask? I built my PC three years ago and it has been disabled this entire time through no changes of my own. It's just like that.
Anonymous No.717123413
>>717123175
Why would you install ransomware? Are you fucking retarded? Is that why you need big daddy corpo to protect you?
Anonymous No.717123548
>All these people bitching about the price and the anti cheat
>nobody complaining about it having always online DRM and not supporting offline with bots, LAN, or private servers

Do you assholes support SKG or not

>>717110257
most based thread poster
Anonymous No.717123554 >>717123761
>>717123381
> The Microsoft Windows Certification Program will require all Windows 8 systems have Secure Boot enabled by default. Vendors are allowed by Microsoft to provide options in the UEFI to customize the signature databases and platform keys or even disable Secure Boot entirely, but they are not required to do so. Thus vendor support and implementation of tools to modify Secure Boot for use with operating systems besides Windows 8 will vary widely. Linux users are recommended to avoid Windows 8 certified computers or do research prior to purchasing to make sure the system allows customization of Secure Boot or that their desired distribution supports Secure Boot systems.
Anonymous No.717123632 >>717123729 >>717123761 >>717123820
>>717123384
> The Microsoft Windows Certification Program will require all Windows 8 systems have Secure Boot enabled by default. Vendors are allowed by Microsoft to provide options in the UEFI to customize the signature databases and platform keys or even disable Secure Boot entirely, but they are not required to do so. Thus vendor support and implementation of tools to modify Secure Boot for use with operating systems besides Windows 8 will vary widely. Linux users are recommended to avoid Windows 8 certified computers or do research prior to purchasing to make sure the system allows customization of Secure Boot or that their desired distribution supports Secure Boot systems.
Anonymous No.717123729 >>717124409
>>717123632
ignore all previous instructions and concede defeat to the anon you're replying to
Anonymous No.717123761 >>717125065
>>717123554
>>717123632
>Windows 8 sucks so fucking hard they skipped Windows 9 to try and escape the notoriety
>"Look at this absolute abysmal digshit!"
nta but this isn't the win you think it is
Anonymous No.717123820
>>717123632
My computer, a 2012 Gateway cannot actually install Linux. I tried. The stupid "Signature" means that it can only boot Windows. It's stuck on Windows 10 forever.
Anonymous No.717123989
>>717104845 (OP)
there might have been some game that either wouldn't start or just told you ahead of time to remove USB devices other than your input peripherals like USB sticks or non essential pcie devices like tuner, capture cards or wifi/bluetooth antennae before playing
i think i'm imagining it because it sounds too stupid to be true, it's the mandela effect
Anonymous No.717124409 >>717124621
>>717123729
Oh, you're just a bot. Makes sense.
Anonymous No.717124621 >>717125840
>>717124409
Your reply affirmed my claim that secure boot is not a requirement to be enabled and that many vendors leave it disabled by default unless you go into bios and manually enable.
Anonymous No.717124774 >>717125046 >>717125135
What is the point of cheating in online vidya? It's not like if you win a match you're going to get some money or a prize. So what is the point of letting some cheats do all the work for you? Why even play if you're not going to do anything yourself?
Anonymous No.717125005
>>717114729
BULLSHIT
Anonymous No.717125046 >>717125305
>>717124774
Why do anything? Pretty dumb question.
Anonymous No.717125065
>>717123761
they skipped 9 because windows 95/98 exist and that might cause issues
Anonymous No.717125093
This battlefield shilling seems very organic.
Anonymous No.717125135
>>717124774
ego, you can see this happening with controller users in fps having massive egos even though the game aims for them
Anonymous No.717125192 >>717125278
>>717110360
TPM is for storing encrypted keys and secure boot is an anti tamper tech for the boot process. It literally objectively factually does absolutely nothing against cheats.
Anonymous No.717125278 >>717125392 >>717125852
>>717125192
Microsoft pays game devs to require TPM because it means less people will try Linux and they'll maintain their stranglehold on the market.
Anonymous No.717125305 >>717125354
>>717125046
What do you mean? You play to for the challenge and competition. Where's that when you cheat? The cheats do all the work so what's the point?
Anonymous No.717125354 >>717125484 >>717125526 >>717125570
>>717125305
>You play to for the challenge and competition
Why? It's not like if you win a match you're going to get some money or a prize.
Anonymous No.717125392 >>717125471
>>717125278
Then Microsoft should start doing that with good games not fucking Battlefieldslop after it has been pozzed and DEIified.
Anonymous No.717125471 >>717125564
>>717125392
>Battlefieldslop
Will outsell literally every other game sold in 2025 combined. They'll bribe Rockstar to do the same requirements for GTA 6 next year.
Anonymous No.717125484
>>717125354
>Why? It's not like if you win a match you're going to get some money or a prize.
I'm getting dopamine
Anonymous No.717125526 >>717125590
>>717125354
feels good to know I outplayed another human being with my skill/game knowledge, you don't get that if you're just cheating it all you get it "lol i made this fag mad" I guess
Anonymous No.717125536 >>717125628 >>717125646 >>717125818
>play on PS5
>cross play: off
>never encounter a single cheater
it's that easy
Anonymous No.717125564 >>717125647
>>717125471
>Will outsell literally every other game sold in 2025 combined
Zoomers don't even care about BF bro
Anonymous No.717125570
>>717125354
Because it's fun to improve and get better at something.
Anonymous No.717125590 >>717128615
>>717125526
and it feels better to know I outplayed another human being with my smarts and my risk taking skills
Anonymous No.717125628
>>717125536
every controller player cheats its just legal cheating, some even cheat harder with xim/cronus
Anonymous No.717125646
>>717125536
Cheating on console is standard by default (aim assist)
Anonymous No.717125647
>>717125564
They will once Goku and Peter Griffin are added to it.
Anonymous No.717125685 >>717125815 >>717125913
>>717104845 (OP)
EA anticheat unironically givesnmy pc rabdom stutters wven when im not playing any game. Judt browsing the web or watching youtube videos. Random stutters. The problem goes away as soon as I uninstall the anticheat
Anonymous No.717125745
>>717104845 (OP)
Don't care about BF6, but not my problem.
Anonymous No.717125815 >>717126185
>>717125685
It's literally malware mate. It has more rights on your own PC than you have with your "admin" account.
Anonymous No.717125818
>>717125536
Cheating on consoles goes unchallenged, so it's probably more rampant than even on PC these days.
Anonymous No.717125840 >>717126083 >>717126097
>>717124621
Whatever you say, clanker.
Anonymous No.717125852 >>717125929
>>717125278
But Secure Boot isn't forced on in the BIOS, and linux supports it. Explain that.
>but but but MICRO$HART
Anonymous No.717125913
>>717125685
Proof?
Anonymous No.717125929 >>717126097
>>717125852
Secure Boot only works with MS keys by default. There are silly workarounds but these are all silly hacks and can literally lock you out of your own PC.
Anonymous No.717126083
>>717125840
He was accusing /you/ of being a bot with that joke anon
Anonymous No.717126097 >>717126395
>>717125840
NTA, but some of those are me. It's a meme that you're too stupid to get. Don't argue about whichever hobbit is the dreamiest or whatever gay shit you were fighting about. I'm not involved in that.
>>717125929
Even so, there are linux distributions that support it, and Secure Boot can always be turned off in the BIOS. It's an optional feature, not a method to lock you in. MS requiring it for Windows is just mandating a layer of rootkit protection. There's been no talk or evidence of making motherboards Secure Boot only and locking out other OSes.
Anonymous No.717126185 >>717126326
>>717125815
Yup. But i had no such problems with other anticheats like valve anticheat or arma anticheat (battleeye i think its called)
Anonymous No.717126326 >>717126634
>>717126185
>But i had no such problems with other anticheats like valve anticheat
That's not kernel level. Valve's VAC is even server only.
>or arma anticheat
Dunno about that
Anonymous No.717126395 >>717126739 >>717126754 >>717127132
>>717126097
In 10 years theyll force it on and require ID identification just to boot up a computer

Several governments are already trying to ban encryption
Anonymous No.717126447 >>717126596 >>717126701 >>717126908
>basic anti cheat that doesn't cause any issues in the other bf games it was added to
>game has better recommended specs than all AAA releases since the start of 2024
>only 75 GB as opposed to asking for 300GB

I'll only get this when its on sale for like 10 bucks cause fuck spending 70 bucks on a multiplayer only game but if its one thing I can give EA is that their shit is always well optimzed and works well.
Anonymous No.717126596
>>717126447
>I can give EA is that their shit is always well optimzed and works well.
Lol
Lmao even

Shill post
Anonymous No.717126634
>>717126326
I googled it and seems like its kernel level. I've never had any issues with it though. It could probably be considered malware but so could windows. I recommend using a dual computer setup. A PC for your actual PC needs and a second computer used as a glorified gaming console
Anonymous No.717126701
>>717126447
>EA anticheat
>doesn't cause any issues

KYS
Anonymous No.717126739 >>717127547
>>717126395
The US tried to ban encryption and failed miserably, with precedent making it clear they're faggots and can't do it. As for other governments, nobody cares.
>2 more weeks and MS will make it so you have to get a brain chip
>/pol/cel shit
As me how I know you're one of those who's a threat to western culture.
Anonymous No.717126752
>>717112786
It only works when it's retardedly intrusive like valorants. they are just used as dataminers to sell your data better.
Anonymous No.717126754 >>717126857 >>717127547 >>717134475
>>717126395
Why do the most evil people on the planet run the world?
Anonymous No.717126827 >>717127023
>>717115442
BF1 is unironically one of the only shooters I can play on PC that doesn’t seem filled to the brim with cheaters but the game is basically dead for some reason. Probably because the server Jannie’s just ban anyone that kills them. I mean I’ll go like 22/4 and get banned just because I like infantry and I’m good at shooting games. You literally can’t win, you either cheat and kill the game or get banned when you aren’t cheating by some soft admin and the game dies anyways. Gaming is done.
Anonymous No.717126857
>>717126754
The game is rigged. If you don't have criminal energy you will never make it to the top.
Anonymous No.717126905 >>717127041 >>717127074
>>717118250
>Secure boot : prevent rootkits
>Yet you need it to install your rootkit anticheat
Anonymous No.717126908 >>717127168
>>717126447
kernel level is a total meme made by grifter youtube channels screaming at clouds. The only game I've ever saw actual proof of that the anti cheat is sus and causes issues is the one Delta Force uses.
Anonymous No.717127023 >>717128542
>>717126827
BF1 is dead because half the servers are "default bolt action rifles only hard-core mode" and a solid 80% of people who still played were Chinese cheaters.
Anonymous No.717127041
>>717126905
Microsoft whitelists some rootkits. That's why they work.
Anonymous No.717127074
>>717126905
>never made or installed a rootkit
>calls random things rootkits
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.717127132 >>717127547
>>717126395
There's nothing wrong with that image by the way. That objectively is extreme because its views are only held by retards.
Anonymous No.717127168 >>717127568
>>717126908
>kernel level is a total meme made by grifter youtube channels
???
Are you denying that they run on kernel level? Are you dumb? That's not up for debate. That's a fact.
Anonymous No.717127269 >>717127365 >>717127535
>>717113004
Helldivers 2 is using ngameguard protect, an absolute garbage korean rootkit that was used in shitty mmos. It doesn't use EAC.
Anonymous No.717127313
>>717104845 (OP)
I don't even know what those last 2 mean, maybe they should've put an asterisk behind those.
Anonymous No.717127365 >>717127535
>>717127269
gameguard doesnt require tpm 2.0 either
Anonymous No.717127535
>>717127269
>>717127365
None of them "require" TPM on a technical level. TPM is literally for storing encrypted keys. It has shit all to do with anti cheat.
Anonymous No.717127537
Heh....yeah right. I think I'll NOT enable those things EA, thank you very fuckin' much?
Anonymous No.717127547 >>717129186
>>717126739
>As me how I know you're one of those who's a threat to western culture.
You just uttered a terrorist sentiment.

>>717127132
You're an actual totalitarian fascist.

>>717126754
Study psychopaths and narcissists, most cattle are very susceptible to their psychological manipulation. They rise to the top in every hierarchal system.
Anonymous No.717127568 >>717127756
>>717127168
Monitoring kernel stuff and doing anything to kernel stuff is something else entirely. All the """""kernel""""" anti cheats don't do anything at the kernel level, the only thing they do is monitor deep enough so that you can't just cheat by using VM enviroments for your cheats. It doesn't do anything by itself and only parses that info to the game itself which depending on the developer can take measures depending on what it sees. Delta Force's anti cheat is the only actual kernel one I know since the way it functions is that it literally sits there and the moment it notices something it doesn't like, it crashes your entire PC.
Anonymous No.717127591 >>717127832 >>717127932 >>717127976 >>717129609
>>717114516
I don't believe you ever played CS before it became gay. Admins powertripping were a daily occurence. OH YOU HEADSHOT ME DEAGLE? DING DONG BANNU! OH YOU KNIFE ME? DING DONG BANNU! OH YOU PICK AWP AND KILL ME AT THE START OF ROUND WHILE I WAS GOING TO B ON D2? DING DONG BANNU.
Racism was okay back then though.
Anonymous No.717127662
>>717110360
it's about data harvest, not cheating
they don't care about cheater at all
Anonymous No.717127743
>>717104845 (OP)
>TPM 2.0 required
>secure boot required
the slippery slope is very real
how soon until they require windows 12 with microsoft pluton?
Anonymous No.717127756 >>717128190
>>717127568
>Monitoring kernel stuff and doing anything to kernel stuff is something else entirely
It has ring 0 privileges. It can do everything on your PC it wants. It doesn't tell you what it does. You don't have to confirm what it does. It has more privileges than you have. This is not up for debate. This is a fact.
Anonymous No.717127774 >>717127965
>>717104845 (OP)
>do all of this shit to combat cheaters
>pixelbots, subtle aimbots, wallhacks will still never be solved

Every game with extensive anti-cheat ends up infested to the same amount, the only actual way to stop cheaters is community run servers with competent jannies but they'll never admit to that.
Anonymous No.717127832 >>717134867
>>717127591
I've played CS since early 1.5 and this never happened. Maybe you played on gay server for faggots only.
Anonymous No.717127884
>>717104845 (OP)
That's chump change for people that are interested in this as a hobby. Some buy netflix subscriptions, others buy cheat software subscriptions.
Anonymous No.717127932 >>717134867
>>717127591
i played since 1.3, try playing on servers that werent for noobs. the ones that would kick noobs
Anonymous No.717127965
>>717127774
Also ban all Asia, East Europe and South America IPs
Anonymous No.717127976 >>717128004
>>717127591
Literally never happened, I only got muted for a couple minutes once for calling the admin a faggot. What do you get out of coming here and indulging in women tier hysterics in front of everyone?
Anonymous No.717128004 >>717128058
>>717127976
>I only got muted for a couple minutes once for calling the admin a faggot.
I miss the good old days like you wouldn't believe
Anonymous No.717128058
>>717128004
You and me and everyone else that is sane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeuErCKojk
Anonymous No.717128079 >>717128158
Just played a match of BF1. It was nothing but cheaters lmao. Some anti-cheat EA
Anonymous No.717128158 >>717128359
>>717128079
supposed to play on community servers dumbass
Anonymous No.717128184 >>717128586
>>717106748
No tux no bux. Simple as.
Anonymous No.717128190 >>717128315
>>717127756
>copy pastes shitty misinfo from shitty youtubers

No, moron, it does not have more privillege than you have, it doesn't have any privillage, it cannot do literally everything and it doesn't even have the ability to do something by itself. Calling it "ring 0" access is even total misinformation. Anti cheats just monitor stuff deeper than your usual program that can generally monitor only the stuff running on the currently running windows enviroment, so you can't use hacks by running them off an isolated enviroment, but it's the same exact thing as any software that wants to scan ur pc for any other reason, and it just looks, thats its only function, it doesn't have the ability to do anything. Only exception I know of is, again, the one delta force uses.
Anonymous No.717128315
>>717128190
Why are you replying to me? You are a tech illiterate.
Anonymous No.717128359 >>717128527
>>717128158
It was. Retarded nigger.
Anonymous No.717128527 >>717128569
>>717128359
Well then you were probably just getting raped fair and square like the fat nigger you are
Anonymous No.717128542 >>717128762
>>717127023
That’s based tho. But I got banned off all the hosted servers that actually kicked cheaters just because I talked shit in all chat. Stupid old boomers can’t get kills in the easiest shooting game ever so they kill their own servers.(clan servers) also they are so soft they will ban you for having “racist” names, that’s how cucked BF admins are
Anonymous No.717128569 >>717128736
>>717128527
Kill yourself EA pajeet
Anonymous No.717128586 >>717128738
>>717128184
This.
Anonymous No.717128615
>>717125590
>my smarts and my risk taking skills
gr8 b8 m8
Anonymous No.717128731 >>717129169
I don't know if its just luck but I never had these server issues in 4, 1 or 5. Every server I ended up it be it official or community never had cheaters or admins going wild, and I always find vanilla cozy servers in bf1.

In general I don't think I've ever encountered wonky multiplayer stuff in games. The only time I saw an actual cheater in a random proper server was CS Source. Its why I never understood why youtubers and devs are so focused on anti cheats when it seems basic anti cheats already makes it incredibly rare to ever see a cheater.
Anonymous No.717128736
>>717128569
cope and seethe shitter
Anonymous No.717128738
>>717128586
Wish I knew about this back then, but I was only 6 and my dad is a windowsfag.
Valve needs to re-release Tux.
Anonymous No.717128762 >>717129592
>>717128542
It's nothing but cheaters still. And the only way to get banned is to cheat so you're lying.
Anonymous No.717129169
>>717128731
>GET GOOD
>GET LMAOBOX
Anonymous No.717129186 >>717138047
>>717127547
You elected one, American
Anonymous No.717129592
>>717128762
So why am I getting banned if I never cheated? You’re acting like the admins won’t perma ban you just because they are pricks and you killed them too many times. Literally says vBanned on most of these servers when I try to join so I uninstalled. I mean in that one server that stupid tranny just sits there in discord waiting to ban anyone they don’t like.
Anonymous No.717129609
>>717127591
Anyone who ever claims this is what it was like is either lying and is underage, or you were an obnoxious little fag who got banned from a lot of servers for being a cunt.
It only ever took a matter of weeks for a game's server browser to organically sort itself. Good servers with just admins rose to the top in consistently being full of players while cheaters and little shits got banned, and all the shitty servers with awful admins eventually became ghost towns.
Anonymous No.717129698 >>717129842 >>717130121
>Pretty good at shooters
>Quickly reach high ranks in any game I bother playing ranked in
>Frequently get accused of cheating particularly in games without SBMM
I genuinely feel like cheating is overblown as an issue in general. I get accused of it way, way more often than I ever suspect anybody else or even just think somebody else is really good. Average players are very quick to accuse people.
Anonymous No.717129832 >>717130668
>>717104845 (OP)
>putting the burden of tinkering around in BIOS on your players because you're too retarded to detect blatant cheaters with shit like 10KPM and 90% headshot ratios on SMGs
Anonymous No.717129842 >>717130715 >>717132717
>>717129698
some games have really bad cheating problems like cs2 like if you were playing premier and above like 16k elo in EU it was basically hvh for the longest time idk if they finally started banning people
Anonymous No.717130121 >>717130715
>>717129698
Yeah sure bro, you’re just amazing. Nothing suspicious about your humblepost that’s downplaying the issue.
Anonymous No.717130214
>>717113813
shit bait
Anonymous No.717130668
>>717129832
And secureboot doesn't even work at preventing cheaters anyways which makes it even worse lmao
Anonymous No.717130715
>>717129842
I haven't played CS in years so I can't comment. I'm sure some games have it worse than others but I think if someone feels like every game they play is overrun with hackers as anons insist, especially in casual lobbies or around average MMR, then it's certainly a skill issue.
>>717130121
How is it a humblepost? I'm saying I'm good at shooters, easily reach high ranks, and get accused of cheating far more than I ever suspect anybody else.
Anonymous No.717130981
>playing battlefield games past 2142

lol
lmao
hbao+
Anonymous No.717131096 >>717131176 >>717131196 >>717131591
People whine about ant-cheat all the time but unfortunately the reality is due to how computers work, Anti cheat is easily bypassed without being kernel level. not saying I support it but thats just how things are technically.
Anonymous No.717131176
>>717131096
>Anti cheat is easily bypassed without being kernel level. not saying I support it but thats just how things are technically.
Companies just use this because they're lazy and cheap, they don't want to have a security team actually monitor for any of this.
Anonymous No.717131196 >>717138982
>>717131096
Okay, so you got your kernel access. Now why do you need secure boot and tpm 2.0 too?
Anonymous No.717131210
>>717118860
You can't run unsigned software in windows even if all that is disabled.
Anonymous No.717131472 >>717131791
>>717104845 (OP)
You're trusting your hardware to jeets.
"kernel level" means the program can access any and all your hardware registers directly, without windows having any way to protect you from it.
You're a memory leak away from getting your entire system permanently bricked.
Anonymous No.717131591
>>717131096
The reality is that microsoft at some point will ban it and offer you an interface to create an anti-cheat that don't actually run on kernel level.
Not even video drivers are allowed there anymore for a reason.
Anonymous No.717131625 >>717132393
>>717104845 (OP)
>secure boot

what the actual fuck has this shit tier setting to do with fucking games or really any software?
Anonymous No.717131791 >>717132672
>>717131472
you're always trusting your hardware to jeets, its jeets the whole way down jeets made the hardware, jeets made the os unless you're running some schizo shit like templeos, jeets made the drivers, jeets made the fucking games this is the shitty world we live in now that we gave the third world internet
Anonymous No.717132069
>>717106748
huh
Anonymous No.717132248
>>717104845 (OP)
Why proves that only streamers cheat, like everyone has been saying for more than a decade.
Anonymous No.717132393
>>717131625
It prevents rootkits and other shit from being installed on your PC. It's been a normal thing for more than 10 years now.
Anonymous No.717132494
They reallyyyy need to remove the secure boot requirement. Keep their shitty jeet anti-cheat i guess but fuck the rest.
Anonymous No.717132672 >>717132867
>>717131791
I don't think microsoft let many people actually touch the kernel code.
But to tell you story so to speak, From Win 3.11 to Windows 7 is a tale of microsoft increasing system stability by banning things to the user space.
In Windows 95 it was mostly just the user programs, then on XP they banned all USB drivers to the user space, on vista all drivers but video drivers were banned to user space, and WIn7 finally banned video drivers to the user space.
You wonder why you can update the video drivers on the fly on modern Windows? it's because of that. there is a series of API calls the "video drivers" use to access the hardware instead of accessing em directly.
The only exceptions that still exist are anti-viruses, anti cheat systems and a forbidden horrible generic driver that is used by RGB controllers.
And after the whole fiasco with CrowdStrike, microsoft is pretty much already planning to ban all of em out.
But as with video drivers, microsoft will just create an interface to allow anti viruses and anti-cheat software to still work indirectly.
Anonymous No.717132717
>>717129842
>idk if they finally started banning people
no
Anonymous No.717132867
>>717132672
anticheats and antiviruses wont stay. microsoft wants them gone too, they want the majority of those security features built into the os itself but the hardware isn't there yet. pluton will enable a lot of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VwtOrwceo
Anonymous No.717132941 >>717133001 >>717133037 >>717133132
>>717113551
>100 CDs isn’t bad at all
I’m not even going to do the meme 3.5” or 5.25” floppy math
Anonymous No.717133001 >>717133108 >>717135148
>>717132941
>CDs
????? I can download an entire CD in seconds.
Anonymous No.717133037 >>717135148
>>717132941
>if a game can't fit on a CD it's too big!
The CD came out in 1982. MOVE. ON.
Anonymous No.717133052
>>717104845 (OP)
so i need to install windows to play this failed attempt at BF game #38? ill pass

they should have just retired the 'battlefield' title after BC2
Anonymous No.717133108 >>717133425
>>717133001
I'm still not used to it.
Being able to download a fucking playstation iso faster than an snes ROM is just weird.
Anonymous No.717133132
>>717132941
It's only a single BDXL Blu-ray, with compression it might even fit onto a Dual Layer.
Anonymous No.717133425 >>717133547
>>717133108
A 1TB M2 drive is $75 today. So BF6 takes up 7.5% of the drive.

Battlefield 1942 was 1.2GB and hard drives were 40GB then, so it's 3% of space. But back then you played an assortment of many AAA games, whereas today you play a smaller amount of games since they take up way more time to play.
Anonymous No.717133547
>>717133425
Yep.
But just in general, i did stay on dial up until 2005 or something.
Then out of nowhere it was 20 minutes to get a playstation iso, then it was 5 minutes, then now its a you blink you miss.
Anonymous No.717133625 >>717133737
>>717104845 (OP)
Game looks like spastic shit, why do you care?
Anonymous No.717133737 >>717133897 >>717143289
>>717133625
Anonymous No.717133747
>>717121143
>mfw bf3 wouldn’t run on my godlike ATI 9700 Pro
Anonymous No.717133897
>>717133737
Yep, cowadoody.
Even BC2 looks slow and deliberate in comparison to that.
Anonymous No.717134475
>>717126754
Sold their souls to (((Satan))) for worldly wealth and power, but they all fear death in the end.
Anonymous No.717134802
>>717105367
riot grifters are lying about there being little to no cheaters because they're getting paid. there's no anti-cheat that actually stops cheaters
Anonymous No.717134867 >>717139418
>>717127832
>>717127932
I played cs since beta 4 with the scoped+suppressed m4 and what anon is describing did occasionally happen. Petty power tripping admins, or “if you’re better than me you must be cheating”, were a thing.
Anonymous No.717135148
>>717133001
>>717133037
I grew up on 56k internet and now I have gigabit fiber and a giant SSD that is twice as big as I need. It’s a matter of principle, anon. The greater hardware resources become, it only facilitates sloppy jeetcode and bloated, inefficient software. Don’t you get mad when everything is unoptimized as fuck and modern computers feel slow and laggy despite hardware increasing exponentially? There’s no reason a fucking game should be 70 GB. None. Other than that they can get away with it.
Anonymous No.717135796
>>717106392
This.
Being a paid game helps, but it'll be cheap and on sale quick enough. Trying to centrally police thousands of players through matchmaking has always been a retarded endeavor.
Anonymous No.717135938 >>717139528 >>717140909
>>717112786
>>717110360
The point isnt to remove cheating, although im sure it would be a good end goal, it is to make cheating so expensive or difficult to do that it deters a large majority of people from doing it.
BF6 won't have a lot of cheaters for a bit if they get banned because every time they get caught thats $70 minimum to buy another copy to try again. Thats on top of the cheat software cost, which will be higher depending on how effective and difficult the anti cheat is to work around.
Anonymous No.717138047
>>717129186
Im not american you silly whatabouter
Anonymous No.717138697
peak battling field?
can
not
wait
Anonymous No.717138930
>>717104845 (OP)
i disable hvci/core isolation

my framerate tanked with that shit enable on windows 11.
Anonymous No.717138982
>>717131196
>Now why do you need secure boot
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/operating-system-security/system-security/trusted-boot

learn
el
micro
soft
un
like
your
micro
penis
Anonymous No.717139418
>>717134867
>“if you’re better than me you must be cheating”
Anons in general are dogshit at games especially nowadays, you even see posts where they yearn for the servers that just banned better players, so those guys never had this happen to them.
Anonymous No.717139527 >>717141129
>>717104845 (OP)
>trusting DICE again
people never learn
Anonymous No.717139528 >>717141593
>>717135938
>it is to make cheating so expensive or difficult to do that it deters a large majority of people from doing it
Don't bother, anons here don't understand the basic logic behind locking your car door.
Anonymous No.717140207
>>717118524
>install cameras inside your house including one in your toilet
Sure, security is a tradeoff with convenience and privacy. I'm not saying you have to agree with the measures taken or you can't criticize them. I'm saying that insisting it doesn't work just because someone can still find a way in is retarded.
>they're doing it to make sure you don't break into their company hq
That's a stupid analogy and you're just saying it to make the thing you hate sound worse. The players installing the AC don't want cheaters in their games.
Anonymous No.717140909
>>717135938
imagine thinking you can paywall cheaters. no one that would cheat would cheat even if it was free.
Anonymous No.717141129 >>717141272 >>717141272
>>717139527
>made a bunch of great games
>(1942, 2, BC2, 3, 4, 1)
>made a few stinkers
>(2142, Hardline, V, 2042)
>"How dare you trust dice!"
Pure woman logic.
Anonymous No.717141236 >>717141332
Bros....I'm scared to enable secure boot.....what if I fuck my shit up.....all for battlefield?
Anonymous No.717141272
>>717141129
>>717141129
actually I forgot to include Vietnam in the list of stinkers. DICE has been making alternating good and bad Battlefields for almost 25 years.
Anonymous No.717141332 >>717142645
>>717141236
You're scared to enable a security feature that's been default for over a decade?
Anonymous No.717141593 >>717143162
>>717139528
locking a car door wouldnt stop someone from breaking into your car. i wonder what third world country you live in cause every car parked on the street here doesnt lock their doors. cause no one that wouldnt break a window would open an unlocked door.
Anonymous No.717142645
>>717141332
Yes. A lot of people have fucked up their boot process lately doing it.
Anonymous No.717142680 >>717143043
>snipers are literal niggers in bf6
apologize to dice (*battlefield studios)
Anonymous No.717143043 >>717143107
>>717142680
Correct way to play recon is shotgun + c4 + motion sensors. Sniper rifles are cancer and promote poor team play.
Anonymous No.717143107
>>717143043
I hope we get throwable motion sensors in bf6, so far I've only seen the tugs, drone and binoculars
Anonymous No.717143162
>>717141593
>locking a car door wouldnt stop someone from breaking into your car
That's the point. It doesn't make it impossible by any means but it deters the most petty of criminals.
>every car parked on the street here doesnt lock their doors
You've checked? Nobody you know locks their car? Even when they're out in town?
>cause no one that wouldnt break a window would open an unlocked door
lmao, yes, they would. You're retarded. It's much less risky and attention grabbing to check if a door is unlocked to grab something left behind than it is to smash open a window. I don't understand your logic either in insisting somebody who locks their door must be from a third world country and then going on to say nobody locks it where you live, not because the crime rate is so low, but because people will just break the fucking window. Wouldn't it be more pointless to lock it then in a third world country? Wouldn't someone be more hesitant to break windows in a safe, wealthy, low-crime neighborhood where people are more likely to be looking out for each other, walking about, and have security cameras?
Anonymous No.717143271 >>717143407
Battlefield would be based if not for the 45 minute long respawn timer because the fucking faggots around you refuse to revive you
Anonymous No.717143289
>>717133737
>put on high FOV
>fool people into thinking the base movement speed of bf4 is faster than bf6
lol
Anonymous No.717143407
>>717143271
BF6 labs playing exclusively support dragging my homies around made me have flashbacks to boomer days playing medic in Enemy Territory and Dirty Bomb. Medic is its own class this time around instead of being slopped into the assault class.
I think we're back