Thread 717110382

Was it good?

Certainly a better 4th installment than Wrath of Cortex

Hell no.

>>717110382 (OP)
no

>>717110382 (OP)
>Alt-Tawna: I killed the franchise?! Really?!

It wasn't a good game. Imagine a Crash Bandicoot game where the jumping sucks (all three of them are ass), the camera position is pulled too far back most of the time causing eye strain, the artstyle bleeds together, the box placement in levels is straight up terrible, and occasionally, the game is interrupted by unskippable cutscenes that ruin the flow. All of these problems and

Jackass reviews giving the game high review scores cause they don't want to piss off Activision.

Don't bother with this game unless you're really curious. It killed the Crash Bandicoot franchise for a reason or two or many. And no, that silly mod someone made for the game doesn't fix how awful the platforming in this platforming game is.

>>717110382 (OP)
It ok

Very solid skeleton brought down by an overwhelming amount of minor flaws. The levels are great except that they're all obnoxiously long, and even that would be forgivable if you weren't expected to play through them all twice because of the arrange mode (or 4 times, in the case of the levels that also have an alternate character version). That's not even counting the time trial runs. Crate placements are mostly fine, with one or two exceptionally hidden ones per level (with one big example being a junkyard level where hitting the obvious checkpoint without noticing the crate fully hidden in an about-to-be-covered barrel means your run through the level is fucked). NuTawna is so immediately abrasive that some people quit playing before the reveal that she's the punchline.
7/10, maybe higher if you don't want to go for full completion.

>>717110382 (OP)
not really

why did they make Tawna a tr00n

It is to a point, and then it keeps going and going and going and before you know it it's so buried in shit that you almost forget the good parts. Playing the main stages casually is fine and throwback tape stages is basically a small game's worth of N. Brio stages which is fantastic. Playing for completion is such a goddamn mess though that even box clears are ruined - 98% of the time it's fine, but that remaining 2% will make you want to snap the fucking disc in half. And forget nonsense like N. Sanely Perfect relics or time trial platinum relics for 106%. Damn near unbearable grind unless this sort of thing is real life escapism, then at least it'll keep your mind off things I guess.

>>717111397
>minor flaws.
They weren't even able to replicate the crate physics and had to put a new neutral spin move.

>>717111864
Does this game bring anything new to the table or am I better off replaying the trilogy? I'm old, I really enjoyed Crash 1 / 2 / 3 but haven't touched this one yet.

N Sane Trilogy or the original games? Which is better? I bought the trilogy remake and something feels off

>>717112224
I appreciate Crash 1 for the difficulty, that's why I don't like the remake, they made it so that you can infinitely re-try the bonus levels. In the original you only got one shot at the bonus stage, and then you had to do the whole level again.

>>717112224
The original games play better. Trilogy doesn't add anything meaningful. Just prettier graphics and worse controls. Add in that emulating the old games gives you save states and its no contest.

>>717112167
Not him but it kinda mixes ideas of all of them together. Platforming is somewhere between Crash 1 and Crash 2 and the masks kind of sequence out Crash 3-esque power ups every once in a while. If you enjoyed those games for completionism though, don't bother. You can clear all 3 of those games twice, maybe thrice over before you'll finish 4 once. It has SO much needless extra bullshit to do, it's actually obscene how repetitive it all gets.

>>717112224
N. Sane fucks up the jump mechanics and collision detection but it's workable. I would say for 2 and 3, the platforming is loose enough to where it doesn't really matter which one you do. 1 is the real deciding factor as N. Sane's decision to give everything rounded collision detection makes the precision platforming significantly harder, but also it brings the game up to the other games' QOL standards so you get shit like an actual box counter, an actual save system and way less need to do shit in a single run. I actually prefer N. Sane to the original for the QOL reasons but in terms of raw gameplay, the original is better.

>>717111397
How is Tawna the "punchline"? She's literally a replacement heroine like what happened to Spyro in Skylanders.

>>717113530
She's also a jobber of colossal proportions. She rescues Crash and Coco a couple of times but when it comes to getting anything of substance done she fucks it up.

>>717110382 (OP)
Install the N-Hanced mod and yes, it's actually really good.

>>717113612
>Rescues Crash and Coco
The first of which was in Nsanely forced scene. I mean really nigga? You can beat Crash and Coco by tying them up with rope? The Tasmanian Devil knockoff and the token girl genius? Why hasn't Cortex done this yet?

I don't think they were trying to be funny here (cause a cage with bars wide enough for them to slide out of would have been funny). I think the writer just sucked. Tawna wasn't meant to be a jobber, the writing is just that bad and incontinent.

Gem fatigue out the ass. Somehow the most gems of any crash game, and less colored gems than ever, so variety is all gone. Counting N verted and Tawna/Dingo levels that repeat other levels anyway, some levels effectively have like 20 fucking gems. Hidden boxes out the ass because the devs saw a few in the trilogy, thought "that was cool" and made it so every level requires autistic combing now. I don't time trial, but they couldn't have made the "dash" mechanic any more faggy with that triple spin nonsense. To sum it up, it felt like they took certain aspects the franchise was known for, cranked them all up to 11 with no regard for sense at all, and made an abomination that does play well.

if you don't go for 100% it's a great time

>>717110382 (OP)
It was fine (as long as you don’t try to 100%)

I 100%-ed the originals. I finished Wrath of Cortex and Twinsanity. I've tried playing this game like three separate times and gave up every time. It just isn't fun.

>>717110382 (OP)
No. There is such a thing as too much content.

>>717115712
For 106% or just to get to the credits?

Crash was never good, its an extremely guided game with no room for player expression, even mario or megaman feel more free form
Unless you like those kind of games I guess, I hate rhythm games for the same reason.

>>717116278
In Crash 4's case it can barely be called content. It's maybe 10 hours of actual meat if you treat the throwback tapes like the crystals of 2 & 3, but then there's 60 hours of cynical padding thrown on top of that. Did you beat the level? Cool, now replay half of it but with more nitro crates, then get every gem, then do that all over again in a single run, then do it with an underwater filter or some shit, then time trial it like your a fucking autist, and then do that for almost every fucking level in the game.

>>717116539
That's more true of 1 than it is of 2 and 3. You sound like you just don't like precision platforming, which basically is a rhythm game in the guise of a platformer.

>>717116791
All platformers are precision platformers once you start optimizing, my issue is that games like crash dont let me think they show me what they want me to do and its the only thing I can do, I cant optimize anything by myself, I cant figure out anything by myself, you do the one jump yuou can do then you do the next
Just not my style

>mid-level cutscenes
>in a fuking Crash Bandicoot game

>>717116929
Yeah, that's how 1 and its very rudimentary moveset works within the level designs. 2 gives you tools like the high jump and slide jump and loosens the level design up a bit. 3 goes even further with power-ups and time trials.

Is it seriously still just double jumping and spinning? They were impressive for PS1 but you’d think they would move on

>>717115712
Practically the same boat
>100% the originals as a kid
>100% N-Sane trilogy on PS4
>100% N-Sane trilogy on PC
>Had to force myself to finish Crash 4.
Could only handle Crash 4 in short bursts because inevitably some of the platforming would be pure aids. Unstoppable camera movement fucking up jumps was my kryptonite and it pissed me off to no end.
Also fuck dingodile levels. Waste of my time.

>>717117457
If you ignore all the shit Crash tried to do in the 00s, sure. You would be wise to continue ignoring that.

POST THE UKA UKA SCREENCAP

>>717117201
>Unskippable, unfunny, female-written "comedy" dialogue with flanderized characters plays during the gameplay
>It repeats every time you restart a fragment, even after completing a level.
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>Toys for Bob game
>good

>>717110382 (OP)
it was about time

>>717111397
>The levels are except that they're all obnoxiously long
This was biggest gripe with the game. Having a constant feeling of "can this level just fucking end" is not something I should be feeling in a Crash game.

>>717116539
>its an extremely guided game with no room for player expression
That's the intended style of it. It's about navigating perilous narrow corridors rather than free roaming in a 3D open world. You hate the very aspect of the series that made it so distinct and memorable.

>>717110382 (OP)
Could have been great, unfortunately the devs seemed to entirely misunderstand what made the original games fun. They copied the formula but decided to turn it into an obnoxious grindfest. I guess the bosses were an improvement but that's not really a tall order coming from the OG trilogy.

>>717110382 (OP)
not bad but hard as fuck i haven't finished the game

>>717117834
It’s wild how they tried to reinvent the wheel during the PS2 era and it just came out as a warped octagon. Crunch? Elemental masks? Mutant jack mechanics? All discarded in the bin of "what the hell were we thinking." Say what you want about sticking to double jumps and spins, at least it's focused. Not everything needs a gimmick, sometimes you just want tight platforming and satisfying gem hunts without strapping a frickin’ monkey to your back.

>>717110382 (OP)
Meh

>>717111397
i hate that playing an extra character means re-doing half of the crash level. it wsd completely unneded in a game that's already pointlessly padded

>>717113690
This, I gave up pretty early on through vanilla, but restarting the game with N-hanced genuinely did make it feel more like a traditional crash game. I got many gems on my first try, whereas in vanilla, I started to just say fuck it and speedrun through the levels because it was always so easy to miss several crates. If anyone else itt gave up on the game, I recommend giving it another chance with the mod

>>717110382 (OP)
A friend screenshared it and we looked at the hidden stuff together, doing that was kind of fun. But the game goes on for way too long, the inverted levels felt like padding but at least they changed where the hidden gems were.

>>717110382 (OP)
Mediocre game if you don't go for 100%
Very bad game if you do

>>717112431
You only need to do the Cortex bonus stages anyway in the original

>>717110382 (OP)
Loved it.

Playing as characters other than crash in a crash game is lame

>>717110382 (OP)
Crash isn't good. Play Mario Galaxy or some shit if you want a good 3d platformer.

>>717112224
I've 100%'d both versions many times.
1
>NST is overall better
>Hints telling you when to not bother going for boxes on a stage without a gem is good, in Crash 1 you either need to memorise every level or waste your time doing all box attempts in levels where it doesn't matter until you get the gem
>Controls are better even with the jump height stuff and rounded pillboxes.
>Save system is no longer complete dogshit
2
>NST version is worse
>Has the worst graphical issues of the bunch
>Worst OST of the bunch
>Ice physics are completely fucked
>The rest is just ok, makes zero actual improvements over the original
3
>NST version is slightly worse
>Jetski controls like shit
>Bike has seen zero improvements
>Swimming levels were never good but making the spinning tunnel sections wider is nice

>>717128307
idk what people see in galaxy tbaych other marios are better

>>717130662
Yeah I didn't say it was the best just that it was better than Crash.

>>717128117
It's based and should be done more