Base PSO2 is a surprisingly solid single player JRPG in 2025.

Isn't story mode gated behind emergency quest and they don't run them anymore? Also doing them solo just isn't as hype.

>>717158347 (OP)
maybe not with the ngs graphics

>>717158347 (OP)
PSO chapter 1 was the only interesting PS story. PSU and it's spinoffs were ok at times too.

EMERGENCI COEH

DOOOIL

>>717158973
Not even pso is safe from the soul gas

Phantasy Star Online never got enough callbacks to the original series. Going through the stuff in Chapter 5 is a wet dream.

>>717158898
I believe this was the case before one of the several revamps of the story structure, so you don't have to do that anymore.

>>717158898
I know EP4 did a full retard thing of having some antagonist do his stuff and then fuck off to the EQ to be settled there, but generally the game will just give you a solo version of the EQs, Buster Quests and so forth that are balanced for the occasion. If you're playing on Casual mode instead of Hardcore (or, as JP calls it, Easy vs. Normal), you don't even really need to bother trying to be optimized on class and gear until towards the very end. Doing it the hardcore/normal way, on the other hand, WILL demand that you are playing and grinding competently.
And then there's the Phaleg duel and I'm sure about 90% of /v/ wouldn't be able to complete it.

>>717161031
> And then there's the Phaleg duel and I'm sure about 90% of /v/ wouldn't be able to complete it

Bro I can’t beat anything this game shows up
This is a baby game for weebs

>>717158347 (OP)
before episode 5 update it was great, hero class completely broke the game balance
global was already playing a worse version of pso2 when it finally launched in the west, but its still better than NGS

>>717161201
NGS is good though???

>>717161536
Not anon but someone who plays NGS, how the fuck is NGS 'good'? Define 'good'.

>>717161031
>Spent like a solid week fighting Phaleg on every class when she released so I could get all the titles for title padding purposes
I want to go back. Braver was by far the easiest time for me.

>>717158898
God I made so much money just selling catalyst affix back then

>>717161612
Good is objective, so when I say good, you can’t argue it.

NGS is a 7/10. It sits in between the Tower of Fantasy’s and the FFXIV’s.

It definitely is the MMO with the most potential, but it’s too late to realise it now.

>>717158347 (OP)
I downloaded this shit since I was curious and when I made a "cute anime waifu" in the creator I realised this was a game for cringe otaku faggots
Dropped it after going to the hub or whatever

>>717161536
Here we fucking go, this is OP and this is a stealth NGS thread.
Abandon thread.>>717161612

I wish it wasn't dead on Ship 3. I miss it. I'd go back to NGS just for it.
They should merge every ship, at the very least for base.

Is it true that Sega is making a Phantasy Star Online gacha reboot?

>>717162138
We've got nothing on the series going on for any further info. Just NGS shit.

>>717162178
Didn’t sega announce they had these “massive online” projects or something? “Super games”?

>>717162290
Things that have had development hell and no firm idea exactly what they were supposed to be, amidst cancellations of other projects and abject failures like Sakura Revolution or closure of Hyenas. They seem to be trying to make singular titles instead like Shinobi to recoup the losses those developments caused.
Far as we know, nothing is in the pipeline for Phantasy Star.

Phantasy Star V…..

>>717162138
sega is doing fuckall with pso
all those leaks years ago were all bullshit

>>717158347 (OP)
It has a needlessly convoluted equipment "enchantment" system as already shown and you spend most of your time huddled in a corner holding down the attack button in a party so you can all auto attack endlessly spawning loot pinatas and every base class was made obsolete by the release of new, game-breaking classes.

It had a good foundation but the systems were fucking retarded.

>>717162553
YOURE WRONG
They’ll make phantasy star online 3 I just know it

You see, Sonic Frontiers was actually an open world test demo for PSO3

And

>>717158347 (OP)
It really isn't though. If you're just doing story missions or something, what are you really getting out of it? A kind of bad story? No difficulty or anything interesting in the combat missions themselves either. What is there to do?

>>717163238
put down the copium bottle brother
you're gonna overdose

>>717163238
NGS is PSO3

>>717161612
Is NGS worth coming back to? Last time I played was around the time they released the emergency version of Solus.

>>717163562
NGS changed absolutely nothing since it came out

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r4R2moUrAc0&pp=ygUSTmFtZWxlc3MgY2l0eSBwc28y

>>717163705
>That character creator stuck in a dead game
NNNNNNNYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717163562
Its soulless slop. Still is. Has had literally zero expansions or big updates. Has become a gacha slop for trannies, faggots, and my 600lb life fuckers to ERP together with.
There's literally NO reason to play NGS. Even the japanese gaymers abandoned ship. And they'll bugplay anything.

>>717163794
you're part of the problem

>>717163782
people told me the tranny got fired

>NGS player count
>JP: 30,000
>EN: 2000
>PSO2 is part of the big three mmos (XIV, DQX) in Japan

Explain.

When the fuck are the clementine guys going to release the private server, playing global in 2020 had so many ups and downs but I want to go back so bad it was pure SOVL.
I WILL grind out 999 and 100 for a second time so help me.

>>717163562
NGS was never worth stepping into never mind coming back to bro.

>>717163907
>make shitty gacha
>flops hard
>attach a tumor to one of your money printer
>tumor kills the money printer
>no one wants to play the tumor

I miss clearing tptd and various other EQs with the boys, but I should just cherish the memories instead

>>717163907
>30k
>big mmo
what

>>717163907
>>PSO2 is part of the big three mmos (XIV, DQX) in Japan
nah

What is with Pso2’s music? It’s just on 100 the whole time, there is no use of dynamics in any of the songs, no quiet sections.

It’s like I’m at an anime rave

>>717164348
>>717164435
I thought it was. XIV would have about 45k Japanese players, DQX a bit less and then PSO2.

Is that not right? 11s aren’t playing RuneScape or Warcraft are they

>>717163907
it was part of the big three, before 2018...
the game reputation has hit rock bottom in JP
pso2 devs are very hated and full of memes making fun of them, kind of like MH wilds right now

>hardly new cast part releases
Goddamn it bros...
Why are CASTs so cucked, the least these fucks could do is let me make a pso1 CAST

>>717158347 (OP)
No such thing as an MMO that's a solid single player RPG. Except for extreme niche games that I won't name because they ARE single player RPGs blown up into MMOs.

>>717164704
>rock bottom in JP pso2 devs are very hated and full of memes making fun of them

Haha post the memes

>>717164838
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34203362
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31965978
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34203362
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32853763
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33765074

>>717164825
Name them

>>717165014
I can't. I fear the C&D too much.

>>717165010
Bro they making me download an app what issss thiiiiis

>>717158347 (OP)
it's fucking trash

>>717164625
Everything must be loud and bombastic in an attempt to disguise the fact that players are just jumping in a corner shooting missiles at waves of cannon fodder. The original game didn't have to worry about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX38e-qzT0A

>>717163238
Yes

That year of PSO2's English debut on Xbox was actually amazing. Just a near constant feed of new stuff to do as they crammed years of content into months.

I'll always remember it fondly before they shit the bed with NGS.

>>717163907
PSO2 has always been unmarketable in the west, and reason for that has always been Sega's incompetence not because the west is that different from the Japanese players

>2012-2015
Sega gets people hyped for a global release only to fuck up badly they alledgingly lost the global IP rights to a Chinese company when they made the SEA asia version
>2015-2017
SEGA Pussy foots about being the game over now that they sorted out said IP issue, Believing that no one in the west would still be interested, even though they kept getting spammed constantly about it by them, and Pso2 was reaching his peak potential in terms of drawing in new players from jp, no matter how many times they released to a new console. They instead chose to rebrand with things like Ep4 and onwards.
>2017-2019
A G E O F H M Z K
G
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F
H
M
Z
K
2019-2021
SEGA FINALLY decides to bring the game over now that Ep6 basically corrected the course of ep5 and to the absolute surprise of no one but SEGA, The game has appeal to the global audiences and all that shit about westerns not liking it was bullshit. Maybe they learned and can use NGS to start of and do pso2 but better.
2021-2025
......somehow, HMZK has returned....

Basically the issue with NGS now is that they once again put themselves into a spot where they can no longer appeal the game to westerns to warrant advertising it overseas, and this is because NGS has literally no direction at all being put into it. Jp has the same problem but, it's easier to do merch runs and set up local venues to grift the Jp base, Global however requires actual televised and internet ads to draw in new players, but they're is absolutely nothing to market it on. There's no compelling story, there's no variety of content or activities, the making of a good mmo or mmo-lite are all right fucking there, they had success before with PSO2 on BOTH sides. Yet for some reason they choose to do nothing but the bare minimum with this game

>>717165219
Risa my beloved

Basebabies are more delusional and annoying than melee fanatics.
NGS is good and fun.

>>717165473
lol

>>717165416
Something happened didn’t it? They got it translated to English, but some Korean/Chinese copyright law meant they couldn’t release it anywhere?

>>717165354

>>717163705
>still lying

>>717165506
It's all but confirm that's what happened because the SEA version was bastardized with some of the most disgusting p2w.

>>717163562
Well, not particularly, the gameplay loop is exactly the same as it was except now you have a semi-decent card game you can play to kill time, outside of that.. you will find vast majority of people will just idle -> UQ -> idle, as they have done since base. Playerbase is still mentally unwell on average.

>>717160467
Maybe I should give it another shot.
Phantasy Star should be my ideal game, in theory. It hits all of my interests.
I've just never made an attempt into the franchise that I've kept going with.

>>717165416
Yeah there are sort of no episodes or patches ever released for the game. It’s just monthly updates.

People really like shit like,
>Pso2ngs: Episode 3 - Oracle of the Benvolent
Everyone gets hyped for a new patch and major changes.

But there are none here.

>>717165687
>Phantasy Star should be my ideal game, in theory

For some reason, I feel the same way, even though I’ve played none of the games.
There must be something in the aesthetic that triggers to /v/ brain.

NGS is shovelware that happens to have lucked into having a notable franchise tied to it

>>717165786
Whereelse are you gonna find Japanese rpgs with literal mecha and spaceships. You literally don't have many options.

This is the “coolest” thing, I’ve ever seen.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1ZEfHDVWBwQ

>>717165416
remember when they showed that thing for the ngs reveal and it was memed so fucking hard they changed? What the fuck is wrong with sega?

>>717158347 (OP)
Halpha was a fucking disaster and the story needs to get the fuck off of that dumb training planet. NGS is like 4 years old and nothing has happened in the story, it's truly incredible. I've never seen a game make only the wrong decisions when they had a good tailwind behind them.

>We'll never get this level of kino again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOBzT2wTlck

>>717166493
>wrong decisions when they had a good tailwind behind them.
this is sega's entire biography. Anybody who wants to run a business should study sega.

>>717166274
>World War era bombers against futuristic mechs
What the fuck is this nonsense? I feel bad for whoever is running that ship.

>>717166567
It's dimensional super tech fuckery, Yamato's raid was amazing.

>>717166567
It's just computer programs in shit bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFz7Tf8paXA
Just make a remaster of the OG fuck the anime shit that is NGS

>>717166630
I'm still pissed we didnt get to do the drop in like from the ep4 opener.

>>717166567
wait till you learn it can flies and shoot lazers

>>717166567
WE ARE BORDERLESS

>>717166274
>>717166545
>tfw FIGHT ON PAST THE SpAace FRONTEEE-RR hits

>>717166274
im more of a sucker for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbJTftWJqU but every opening of ep4 and priors were kino. Also hot take but I liked the story and world building in ep4.

>>717166682
This song encapsulates everything about 90s anime.

>>717166274
Top UQ, right up there with Luther.

Train Ghidoran deserved to have its own UQ desu

>>717158347 (OP)
It's funny how single player autists are always trying to hijack multipalyer games, but get violent and shouting about how "IT'S NOT INTENDED THO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when multiplayer gods suggest that a SP game would be fun with some co-op

>>717166829
The first 20 seconds of that trailer is exactly what I want from a phantasy star game.

Whatever those elements are, whether it’s the desert rabbits or the engine roar of the ship or the colour palette, that’s the one.

>>717166829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmi3pA7akPM

>>717166976
The problem is games that are designed to be co-op typically don't really work out well as a single player experience but games designed to be single player still function perfectly fine with co-op. A lot more people would be happy if more games were designed to be perfectly fine as a single player experience but with optional co-op that has necessary adjustments.

>>717166968
>you piece of arks trash

>>717166274
I fucking forgot how hard this went
This is why I hate these threads, since this game was my life for that whole decade. SEGA pissed away so much good will soon after this too

>>717167069
Bro i use to hate tower defense until T5 and the big reveal the whole time we ran TDs were defending from them freeing Apprentice. Suddenly every tower defense after that realization be that much hyper. Buster quests are not TDs.

I know what everyone thinks about ep5 alredy but I loved the fan service and the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBl7aOB1GM&list=RDJZBl7aOB1GM&start_radio=1

also mother fucking dark falz persona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQce0bM7EFg&list=RDrQce0bM7EFg&start_radio=1

NGS being such a dismal failure wouldn't hurt so bad if they didn't cannibalize PSO2 to do it. Fucking hell.
They can't even go back to just supporting the base game instead because they chokeslammed the economy so hard with free meseta events, they had to do a hard reset with a new currency.

>>717167383
Don't give me that look bitch, I didn't kill Hagrid, you did

>>717167127
>A lot more people would be happy if more games were designed to be perfectly fine as a single player experience but with optional co-op that has necessary adjustments
Which is what multiplayer gods suggest, you big silly ol' dingus wingus diggery doo. Hell, most don't even care one lickspit of that "necessary adjustments" bullshit; that's usually just the paranoia of single player bitches and the amount of effort they imagine will be required and thus take away from the single player experience. Meanwhile, multiplayer gods don't bat an eye at shit like Doom and Quake custom maps constantly being filled with one-way perma-shut doors that they're forced to noclip the other players in the group through.

>>717167383
It's not really cannibalizing. It was suppose to be next thing to look towards because we already wrapped up Base. We wouldnt be having this problem if Ngs was helmed by literally anyone but HMZK.

>>717167501
>Which is what multiplayer gods suggest, you big silly ol' dingus wingus diggery doo.
I'm not on either side, I'm just saying why people who prefer single player games tend to be averse to co-op stuff. Most of the time it's either required or implemented in such a way that it negatively impacts the single player experience. This is a problem with devs, not people who dislike co-op.

I'm still disappointed they didn't do a full soundtrack bundle collection when they were done with PSO2.

>>717167745
>I'm not on either side
>Most of the time it's either required or implemented in such a way that it negatively impacts the SP experience
That be the ignorance of a single player preferrer talking, unwitting or otherwise. Begone with ye, before you start spouting the usual script of "but muh RE5, muh DS3," as if such games aren't drops in the bucket compared to most other co-op capable single player games and suffer entirely more from co-op-unrelated issues than anything else.

>>717168142
Okay so you're just retarded. You could have said so from the beginning.

>>717167359
Persona is some sort of masterpiece track. It reminds me of Ace Combats too tracks

>>717167359
I liked the near end of EP5 with [Persona] and Omega Masquerade and them introducing trigger drops that were tradeable. Also BQ2 the EQ was good, I liked it. Dragon was still a hot garbage fight even when they added the rematch version, however.

>>717165248
Use a vpn and connect to japan

Fucking hate Darkers...

>>717169023
>Take the most basic bitch enemy from the game and make them a super threat in the anime
Comedy

>>717169095

I want to play it again... but not on the official server

>>717166545
>This blasting in hard mode as Yamato transforms and your AIS is spammed with a billion homing missiles and lasers while you weave in attacks between dodge boosting like a madman, then the frantic rush to shoot down all the nukes before finishing it off while the timer ticks down to the last seconds.
I want to fucking go back, painful death upon sega for throwing this game away.

The Green Goblin mask is beckoning me.

>>717161031
>And then there's the Phaleg duel and I'm sure about 90% of /v/ wouldn't be able to complete it.
I still don't know how to beat that bullshit

>>717169575
The Cast tanked that btw

i miss the early /vg/ days
i remember that doujin author used to talk with the general through twitter screencaps of posts and responding to them
what a wild time

>>717158347 (OP)
isn't the US community absolutely horrendous?
i heard there is basically 1 tranny "mod" who will get anyone b& if they say something he disagrees with

>>717158973
ngs really fucked everything huh

>>717169963
Step/Dive Roll cancelling is your friend, especially with her multi kicks. Depends on the class really, when I did it on Force I used the ring that made Mirage Step shorter so I could cancel it fast enough between kicks. Summoner was the last class I needed Phaleg on before they put in the successor classes and I FUCKING hate how Summoner plays so I went out of my way to use other weapons. Both weapons were ice element I think since she's weak to it and having 2 weapons you're confident enough in helps because she gets that damage resist after the first phase. Hunter Subclass helps quite a bit for surviving. Her fire wave attack in phase 2 has a lingering hitbox and it's the worst because it'll just murder you.

Some shitty gameplay from when I did it.
https://litter.catbox.moe/1p3k9645zhogkabo.webm

>>717170303
Maidoll?

>>717171638
Removing just attacks has to be one of the biggest travesties i ever seen done to a sequel. I refuse to believe who ever approved it ever played pso games.

>>717173132
yeah lmao that's the one
i still have some of the tweets in my browser history, from before they got deleted

>>717158347 (OP)
No its not kys

>>717173357
this. i mean they weren't used by 90% of players but still

i miss this game sometimes. not like the starlight project is gonna bring that old memories like i had back on the JP server. sega can really just make a standalone offline mode version of the game with improved graphics and add the online part as a separate mode, and it will easily generate money too.

>>717159628
>engrish announcer

Peak soul

>soulless gacha and collabs game
>paypigs pretending it's a good game
every time

>>717174672
Vanilla PSO2 was kino

>>717173357
NIGGA THEY DIDNT EVEN PLAY PSO2

>>717173357
>Made step feel awful to use
>Just attacks gone
>Bunch of PAs are merged together to simply the PAs
>There's like no Movement PAs
>Let's make Gunslash Slayer only
>Removed Resta/Anti
>Even simplified the consumables
>Adds duel quests, but completely misses the point of why they were good in base. Had this weirdness to it where the quest is awful without the DUEL SPECIFIC AFFIXES but then when you use the duel specific affixes, the fight becomes an absolute joke
>Want to use symbol art on your shop? Simply play the game for like 500+ hours and do a bunch of other bullshit to get the title so you can actually do that
>Oh you wanted to upgrade that weapon to the cool untradeable? Well when you do, it looses ALL of its affixes and grind (Kvaris)
>What? You want a casino? Why would we add the casino when you can just play the casino in base?

>>717175137
>>There's like no Movement PAs
>>Removed Resta/Anti
Am i supposed to be sad about these or something?

>>717174468
>NGS announcer
>Trial Start
>Doesn't even say what the trial is
>No code, completely devoid of emotion
>Can't even get a CHANGE OVER or EXCEPTION

Actual case of soulless.

>>717175446
pse encore is cute tho

Is the PSU private server worth playing?

>>717175685
It's pretty OK until you get to ultimate.

>Make grinding weapons not as shitty as it was in the regular game
>Ultimate update
>Make the ultimate weapons shitty to grind like they were before for no reason

>>717174867
keep telling that to yourself paypig

PSO is the better game

>>717176439
Gameplay sucks ass

>>717175439
As retarded as it may sound, having movement tech tied to PAs allowed you to be busy doing SOMETHING while you moved to point A to point B instead of being on autopilot. It's a boredom killer during downtimes.
I won't argue with Resta/Anti because besides a niche Anti use to remove panic on a clutch, heal was a non-issue. Hell, most of the time people would just cast Megiverse instead so you could unga dps

>>717169575
>holy shit we survived, better shoot it to make sure he finishes the job
i fucking hate anime writing so much

>>717174468
gods be operative

>>717164824
You can actually. There's a shop in base that has PSO1 outfits for each of the classes/races from that one, among other things

>>717179189
to this day i cannot believe sega paid money for those localizers to put that shit into the game.
that shit was so bad i think they turned me off giving sega money for anything ever again.

>2025
>filtered by pso gameplay
lmao
lol

>>717167457
>you doing this allowed Luther to create deuman from his blood due to time shenanigans, which is why you suddenly have prime deuman cunny calling you senpai in ep2