Thread 717159957

>linuxtr*nnies constantly whinging and complaining whenever duckstation breaks on their linux machine because of the massive variation between distros
>duckstation dev decides to stop supporting linux, and also programmed to shut itself off if it detects that it's running on arch linux because only 2% makes up the extremely vocal linux userbase

this really goes to show what's wrong with modern linux and why people continue to use windows over it.

>>717159957 (OP)
Oh no they only have 15 years of updates

isn't the duckstation dev a huge schizo
who cares anyway, the retroarch beetlepsx core just works

>>717160025
all freetards who don't manage to make money or status off of it like Linus Torvalds and maybe RMS are ALWAYS schizos

>>717159957 (OP)
You seem hurt

>>717160025
there's also swanstation which is not super outdated anymore and actually pretty good.

>>717160025
Wrong. Several games have nasty audio crackle if you aren't running them with precise settings.
That automatically makes it worse than Duckstation, which just fucking runs games. Very few games emulate poorly on Duckstation and if they do they simply don't work right anywhere.

>>717159957 (OP)
>duckstation dev stops supporting linux
ok
>duckstation shuts itself off when it detects linux
nigger

>>717160025
duckstation dev sounds like a huge dickhead. we really need a better ps1 emulator...

>>717159957 (OP)
Wine has always worked better than native. I remember way back in 2008 when I was still under Linux-better-than-Windows brainwashing when Supertux would barely run natively but the Windows version ran fine.

Fucking based. Linuxtroons should just make their own software instead of leeching off Windows users.

>>717159957 (OP)
>and also programmed to shut itself off if it detects that it's running on arch linux
Holy basado

Expected no less from loonix transnonbinaryfolks

So I just don't updoot my AUR version?

>>717160025
yeah, and this one is on him too
he made the project closed source and now he's blaming people for not helping him anymore

>>717159957 (OP)
>programmed to shut itself off if it detects that it's running on arch linux
B A S E D
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>>717162314
Didn't he find some license that makes it source available but not open source like you would usually think of it?

>>717162314
>now he's blaming people for not helping him anymore
got a screenshot?

>>717159957 (OP)
what's even left for the emulator to do? isn't it already perfect?

I guess stereoscopic 3d would be cool though

>>717159957 (OP)
arch troons deserve it

>>717162357
it's open source, whatever custom behavior he wants to implement for arch can be easily patched automatically with a diff.
the only thing this does is turn people away from his project.

Isn't the actual issue people kept fucking up the install in some way and using bullshit installs and creating issues he could not find answers to?
In other words, it was user error causing a wild goose chase of problems that was not the emulators fault and creating nightmare bug reports.
The guy isn't stopping linux development yet but he sure as fuck wants to because nobody can read and install correctly anymore.

>>717159957 (OP)
>>717160886
>>717162357
>>717162496
You are so valid sisters, never forget that <3

>>717162034
>apple
>female
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i still use epsxe THO

>>717160025
>isn't the duckstation dev a huge schizo
yes.

holy based
fuck linux trannies, arch fags and license troons

Is that over for Steam Deck?

>>717162546
Is it really open source if it has a no derivatives license?

>>717162980
mednafen is a thing that has been working pretty well for way longer

>>717163023
>console commands instead of comfortable UI
Ugh...

>>717162983
You can modify the code but you can't share the changes, that's enough

>>717162983
>derivatives license?
do you think people give a shit?
>>717162983
no. worse case scenario you're going to be forced to use the version from 2024 which is still under the GPL.

>Download AppImage
>It works

I usually burn roms straight to CD-Rs for my original hardware so im not that well versed in emulator differences.
What are the selling points of duckstation over a gazillion of other PS1 emulators like, say, EPSXE or PCSX? If i were a Linux user, why would i care about this particular one when others exist?

>>717163194
>download appimage
>it doesn't work because it's a fucking appimage
i wish more developers would just switch to flatpak

>>717159957 (OP)
That's actually pretty funny.

>>717163556
>linuxoids still can't fucking agree on unified package installer
Just let valve handle your shit already, foss community is clearly incapable of doing fucking anything but argue semantics and usecases.

>>717163350
It's just cleaner, easier to use, more options, and runs better.
Best to just think Duckstation as a refined version of PS1 emulators of old. Is it leagues better then everything else? No. But is it the best modern version that's very easy to get into with modern advancements? Yes.
You can find more compicated but still valid reasons to use something else like Mednafen but as an out of the box emulator with little hassle Duckstation is where to go.

>>717163556
flatpak is shit, it's just another package manager with root access to your system.
Appimage justwerx, just like a win32 pe/exe

>>717159957 (OP)
ps1 emulation is a solved problem should anyone really care about not getting any more ui reworks or whatever...

>>717163718
appimage isn't actually a package manager.
It's basically just portable .exe files.

Instead of installing the app packages and all dependencies, you just get a big program.appimage file that you run.
You can put it anywhere, you just double click (or ./program.appimage) and it justwerx.

>>717163350
Over the years people wanted things like more accuracy (so you don't see random visual glitches, timings are correct, the vast majority of games work the way they work on original hardware, and such). This goes for every platform. In the 2010s they stopped pretending that emulation was good enough, and decided that the usual suspects that complain about emulation being garbage compared to original hardware should shut the fuck up about it. So more and more developers popped up for this purpose.
But then some people started thinking of new features to add that didn't have to do with that, such as automagically switching discs, automatically switching resolutions and refresh rates on CRTs, having a bajillion shaders, in the case of PS1, removing that weird jitter characters have in high resolutions, altering load times, getting rid of "plugins" and "fixes for particular games", having a built in interface with cover art and stupid shit like that, widescreen hacks, there's a lotta shit. EPSXE, ZSNES, Gens and such emulators are a thing of the past. RetroArch is a frontend that has a billion features and through cores allows to emulate the vast majority of platforms with the advantage of being ported to a lot of other platforms (such as the Wii, the 3DS, Android, your fucking toaster) and without it it'd be much more annoying to sell chink handhelds.
In this case Duckstation is nice but it's nothing in particular that doesn't have alternatives.

>>717159957 (OP)
Linux works on my machine.
Commented on yt a while ago and it's hilarious how much butthurt replies I got.
Still getting replies over a week later.

Social engineering and psyops can happen anywhere at any time

>>717163732
I'll never understand this. Most people use mednafen through RetroArch. RA is not exactly that difficult to use, it's just understanding you have to download a core, and you have to open a ROM. In the case of PS1 you need BIOS files in the right folder. How could it get any easier?

>>717160025
Is people being autistic about which ps1 emulator they use a bit or something? Any emulator i've used for any game works pretty much out of the box, and that goes for most consoles that aren't the original xbox or modern consoles

>>717162794
Wait what i have arch and now i love this system even more

>>717159957 (OP)
Emulator for dumb people that cant configure retroarch
Yea i really care about this shit

>>717164016
I actually spend a lot of time working with people on tech issues and let me tell you it's easy but not understandable as is.
People don't know what a "core" is. People don't know what a "BIOS" is. Hell, people don't know how to make sure things go in the right folder.
Something like Retro does require a little bit of set up. It's not a lot but because it's multisystem they also have realize they are setting up specifically for PS1.
Trust me, I get how fucking asinine that sounds but the amount of times I have helped friends set up even things like Duckstation it's not a mystery tech literacy is extremely low for the common person. Even the most basic of things will fly over someones head and create frustration and then they just quit.
Retroarch is not as "out of the box" as Duckstation. And that's what matters here.

>>717163759
>>717163759
>it's just another package manager with root access to your system.
flatpaks can be user installed.
>Appimage justwerx, just like a win32 pe/exe
in my experience, they work about 50% of the time, they're not sandboxed so it's very common for developers to forget to add dependencies because it does work on their machine.

>>717162983
>>717163136
>Fork the 2024 GPL version
>Backport the changes from the current one
What's he gonna do about it?

I've tried Mint for a couple days and then realized why this trash never got popular. It's just too much hassle for every single thing.

>>717164250
If you're using linux and you intend to emulate shit in there, and you cannot handle how RA works, I honestly don't know what to tell you at all. It reminds me of someone telling me that Affinity Photo was too complicated in comparison with Photoshop because he had to use a different fucking shortcut for the same action. It seems to me that the name Duckstation is appropriate, because it's for ducklings, refusing to learn basic very basic shit.

>>717164029
PS1 emulation, like 90% of retro consoles, has been solved and it literally doesn't matter which emulator you use as long as it's not ancient.
For newer consoles and the remaining 10%, there is often only one emulator that works or is worth using so your choice still doesn't matter. I think the Switch 1 was the only exception to this.

>>717164419
What hassle?

>>717164016
By not needing a core, which is how every actual emulator works and is by definition simpler. I will never understand why you would want to add an extra step for no reason whatsoever.

>>717159957 (OP)
He's just butthurt because the aur freezes the project on the last GPL version

>>717165856
>STOP PACKAGING MY LEGALLY AVAILABLE APPLICATION
schizo dev

someone should fork the last GPL compliant version, backport the most recent changes and name it "Fuckstation"

>>717165832
Because I don't know what the fuck do you want to emulate, and what your preferred emulator is. It's that simple. Your extra step is having to download a different emulator for every platform you want to emulate, with all its different quirks.

>>717163350
It has a nicer GUI. That's about it, Mednafen is a better emulator overall but it doesn't advertise itself as much, not that it really matters

>>717162794
>>717164185
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6622239/arch-linux-discord-voting-to-ban-links-to-x-twitter-because-nazis
The headline should be enough. If you want to watch this video for some reason,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6zKIcumWQ4
Their discord requires pronouns, btw.

>>717166521
>unofficial discord
Only official Arch Linux communities are the forums and mailing lists.

>>717166139
And you need a different core for every platform. The difference is all of my shit is decoupled from each other which is generally a good thing in software. I'll ask again since you didn't answer: Why would you want to add another step and dependency? What advantage is worth that?

appealing to linux trannies is a waste of time and resources, its like the "arachnophobia mode" that some modern games have thats only there to please the 1% of retards and look like a nice dev

>>717167130
>And you need a different core for every platform
That's the step, not another one.
>The difference is all of my shit is decoupled from each other which is generally a good thing in software.
Why?
With RA you set up controllers once, you can use the same shaders everywhere, your same display settings, same folders. You switch to a different platform than your PC and there's no random shit that's different, you can transfer your folders the same way. You can even do your own form of cloud saving that way, which applies for all these platforms. You don't even have to hunt for anything out there, the cores are listed inside the program, you tick one and it gets downloaded and ready to use. Same for shaders and such. It's much simpler to use with external frontends like Launchbox as well. It has presets for a billion gamepads so often it'll recognize your shit without having to do any of that setup, not just "because it's xinput".
I'd understand this "I don't want everything centralized" shit when it comes to a corporation, but otherwise why would you needlessly have to create multiple folders for your multiple emulators that all work different out of the box? It makes little sense to me. How's that "clean"? How is that less complicated?

>>717167591
That's a whole lot of words to say "There really isn't one, all my emulators are dependent on each other and I don't understand why that's stupid."

>>717168104
>all my emulators are dependent on each other
Learn to read.