Behold, the worst written character in history of D&D.

retard

I don't know who that is because my game keeps crashing in act 3

I can't help but feel like you only hate her because she's a woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_d698myTQ

The part where she gets freed and the music goes hard as fuck

>>717164519 (OP)
dyke fetishists will never admit this truth OP.

>>717164564
You are lying. Meeting her is required to finishing Act 2.

>>717164696
Ah, it's the woman from the shadow plane. My Shadowheart offed her. Then some cutscene played where another woman I never met was shown. Then I assaulted the bad guy's tower with my 12 skeletons and after I won Jaheira who I never met was in my party congratulating me. The game's a mess.

>>717164606
reading the comments makes you realize the fans of her and this game are literal children

spermable

>>717164519 (OP)
she's a character the game tries to sell as a badass despite being a massive jobber.

Drizzt exist. But yeah, that dyke is just as bad. It's even worse because she's weak as fuck in game despite all her talk.

>>717164758
How often do you visit /pol/ per week would you say?

>>717164749
>ah, you've caught me in a lie trying to look cool on the internet

>>717164519 (OP)
She is not even remotely the worst written character out of the garbage that's BG3.

>>717164758
BG3 is the first big name "rpg" made for normalfags. It's a literal marvel tier garbage and the writing quality is very much on par with that.

>>717164519 (OP)
Selling her was the best 5000 gold I've ever made. Why did they make her so abrasive and rude even when you save her, save her girlfriend, kill the undead god and let them squat in your 5 star hotel room?

>>717164519 (OP)
No, that's still the MC from the BG novels.

>HEY DID YOU KNOW I WAS A LESBIAN
>IM LESBIAN BTW GONNA HAVE SEX WITH MY LESBIAN LOVER RIGHT NOW
>BTW HERE'S US TOTALLY NOT FORCED IN A CENTER SHOT IN A MAIN STORY CUTSCENE BEING LESBIAN
>MY LESBIAN LOVER BTW
>HER HOMOPHOBIC FATHER DID NOT APPROVE OF OUR LESBIAN LOVE
>IM LESBIAN MOVE OUT OF YOUR OWN CAMP SO THAT I CAN SPEND TIME WITH MY LESBIAN LOVER
Eternal torture is enough for this cunt.

>>717164519 (OP)
Someone needs to mod an alternate story path where you rape Isobel and force Dame Aylin to watch as her lesbo gf gets converted straight by your massive cock

Just use the Ser Aylin mod or No Alphabets where it's integrated.

>>717164758
No shit.

>>717164749
>Jaheira who I never met was in my party
She dies if you kill the angel woman, retard

>>717164581

>>717164749
yeah, larian completely ignored evil choices and the bugs they may introduce, presumably because their target audience isn't likely to pick them. I killed the tiefling chieftain guy in act 1 and he showed up in act 3 dozens of hours later to complain that I missed one of his quests or something. the game has a stroke when you kill npcs they don't expect you to.

>>717164519 (OP)
She's a futa...

>>717165063
maybe now she does, but when the game launched she would ALWAYS be in the throne room after the final boss fight in act 2, regardless of your previous choices.

>>717164963
Guess that massive arrogance it comes with being the daughter of some goddess. I think she is supposed to be a dumbass knight trope of sorts. But hey, as you found out you can sell her to a wizard if you hate her.

>>717164804
NTA, but let's quote some of the comments, shall we:
>"I was litteraly clapping in front of my computer for that scene! The fact that my choices led to Shadowheart making the choice without me interfering made it all the sweetest. (...) When she threw the spear into the void, it truly felt like it was HER choice"

>Thor's Wakanda Entrance (star emoji)
>Nightsong's Shadow Lands Entrance (even more star emojis)

>"I reloaded the save to watch this over and over, I felt like a kid again playing lion king on repeat, trying to grasp its meaning and symbolism."

>"This scene made me well up with tears."

>"one of the most emotional moments in the game for me"

>>717165328
This is genuinely embarassing.

>>717164804
You know a sister (she/her) lost when she mentions /pol/ out of the blue.

>>717165328
NGL, I had strong second-hand embarrassment from reading that

>>717165052
why is it that it being a dude makes it way better and less obnoxious for me?

>>717165440
I don't think I've ever seen a BG3 video comment section that wasn't like this. BG3 is basically a Marvel movie but in Forgotten Realms, and the entire game is built to cater to people who like this kind of slop. The retarded shit in that game is both overt and covert, and while BG3 might not be a mechanically bad game per se, it's also one of the worst CRPGs ever made; hence the popularity among the normalfags, hence the yasss queen crowd enjoying it so much.
I wouldn't even give a fuck about it, but it just fucking pains me that something like this is called Baldur's Gate.

>>717165708
>and while BG3 might not be a mechanically bad game per se
It is.

>>717165759
>>717165708
Both are correct. All games based on D&D 5e are destined to be shit mechanically: even if the implementation is perfect or improved in some way, the core is rotten

>>717165708
>one of the worst CRPGs
You haven't played many crpgs.
Its not even one of the worst dnd based games.
Compare it to sword coast legends and it looks like a masterpiece.

Literally the only redeeming shit to all the gay faggotry is that you can be a complete asshole to them and kill them all or lead to horrible fate for them.

>>717164749
>>717165161
>making up stories about games you never played
grow up

>>717165684

Because female acting like a male is cringe and that is the main problem with that character which mod is fixing

>>717165328
that's all youtube comments sections.

>>717164519 (OP)
>the worst written character in history of D&D.
LOL fat chance. Not even the worse written character in BG3. Halsin turns to complete shit the moment he becomes a part of your adventuring party.

>>717164519 (OP)
nortubel has better writing

>>717165027
This but you can only do it if you play as a kobold yes

>>717166017
This is a cope.

>>717165328
>>Thor's Wakanda Entrance (star emoji)
>>Nightsong's Shadow Lands Entrance (even more star emojis)

>>717164581

>>717165328
>Shadowheart can kill or redeem herself without player input based on how you acted with her
>this is a bad thing

>>717166184
Did you also clap in front of your screen while screeching yassss queen?

>>717165328

>>717166324
I've never seen that webtoon looking thing or Hasbin Hotel but I'm just gonna assume their lesbian relationships are just as toxic as Arcane's.

>>717165328
>a kid again playing lion king on repeat, trying to grasp its meaning and symbolism
does he have brain damage?

>>717164519 (OP)
TRUE and REAL!!!

>>717165093
>pick the choice for Shart to kill the bitch
>Shart instead goes with the nice option (???)
>act 3 then proceeds to randomly give her white or black hair every other time I have to go through a loading screen
The game was really fucking retarded every time you did something evil

>>717165708
>one of the worst CRPGs
Writing this unironically just because you disliked a YouTube comment section is so genuinely fucking retarded. You need to kill yourself at the soonest available opportunity.

Is Halfling Luck bugged? The combat log gets flooded with dice rerolls every time I make an attack.

>>717166562
>Writing this unironically just because you disliked a YouTube comment section
You are just as stupid as those commenters, anon.

>>717166602
You don't play videogames. So don't share your opinions on them. They have no value.

>>717166685
Are you buttmad because someone pointed out your shit taste?

maybe if Jannies add a 30 minute cool down this schizo will finally stop replying to himself!

>>717166308
Just admit you dont like RPGs

>>717165328
>>717166385
Come on man, it has to be a bot. how can you see symbolism on lion king and not see how demonic it is. you can even see that hakuna matata without the H in zulu to english means "no father"

>>717166562
I define good CRPG by five criteria:
>writing
>story
>world building
>reactivity for roleplaying
>meaningful system depth

Writing is mediocre at best with BG3. Story is an absolute joke bordering on travesty. World building is basically non-existent, with less features than what old games had. Reactivity is pretty neat, but it's mostly just one time quips and simple trinkets rather than some meaningful reactivity arc. It also shows how unfinished the game is. System depth, well, it's a dumbed down version of already dumbed down system + a layer of Larian le quirky retardation like barrelmancy.

>play as drow durge
>free some deep gnome from the goblins
>he asks if he's now my slave
>i tell him yes
>he thinks I'm joking and there's no option to tell him i wasn't
>at another place i buy a human artist from his captors
>i tell him that he's now my property
>he runs away and there's nothing i can do about it (apart from killing him in turn-based mode)
and this is supposed to be an rpg? can't even roleplay as a drow ffs

>>717164519 (OP)
she seems fine untill the final act2 battle when she starts acting like horny teenage dyke, writer must be some retarded califaggot who thinks people in fantasy setting should talk and act like his circle of degenerate faggot friends

And so the seethe continues

>just copypaste some comments from youtube
>larianfags mad

>>717164749
>>717164696
>>717164519 (OP)
Lying faggots and accusing faggots aside, who the fuck is she?
I stopped playing at the moment Ketheric goes DB second form at the end of Act 2.
Is that some deva or another?

>>717164519 (OP)
literally not even the worst written character in that game, let alone of all d&d which includes every piece of dogshit modern wizards put out and compared to what they think is good even this character is restrained
retarded take

>POPULAR GAME BAD
>FEMALE CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T THE JAPANESE ANIME HOUSEWIFE STEREOTYPE ARE WOKE AND DEI
>I CAN'T COMPREHEND ANYONE GETTING ANY ENJOYMENT AT ALL FROM THE MOST HIGH BUDGET CRPG TO DATE
I always wonder if these kinds of threads are botted or if people here are genuinely severely mentally ill.

>>717167757
Nah, you just have a shit taste.

>>717164581
You can feel the butthurt behind those clowns.

>>717164519 (OP)
>write a male
>call it female
Bravo Swen!

>>717167757
Anime website. So it's genuine mental illness.

>>717167757
It's, well, it's kind of like dota2 vs lol, if you ever played those games. There is a crpg developer called owlcat who make games, most notably the Pathfinder adventure path Vidya adaptations, and owlcat fans have declared fatwa on larian and bitch about larian games constantly, make larian hate threads, denounce the Tencent shares thing, etc. Fans of larian games don't know owlcat exists and don't care.

>>717165052
>>717165684
>suddenly likes character when it's a man
gayest post I ever read in my life

>>717167757
>>FEMALE CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T THE JAPANESE ANIME HOUSEWIFE STEREOTYPE ARE WOKE AND DEI
This but unironically. If every female character was a Yamato nadeshiko, the quality of writing and storytelling would multiply tenfold across the medium and that is a fucking fact

>>717167757
>budget = quality
You are a retarded faggot, no wonder you like BG3.

>>717167943
>Yamato nadeshiko
No thanks, asian bitches are ugly, I only want to see white women (more common in anime than asians luckily)

>>717164519 (OP)
Does he use a "combat" wheelchair while living in a world where yadda yadda - you know the rest -? No?
Then I guess he's much better than what Dicks and Dildos wants players MC to become.

>>717168029
White women can be Yamato nadeshikos. It's just a personality type. Jill from the early Resident Evil games is an example, in contrast to the Westernized girlboss bulldyke Jill in the newer games

A few more comments, since Larianfags enjoyed the first round so much:

>my favorite character, the angelic lesbian paladin

>The women in bg3 did us proud

>I cried like a baby the first time I saw this cutscene

>ROUNDING THE CORNER WITH A BUNCH OF LESBIANS HERE WE ARE SHADOWCURSED LANDS CAN YOU HANDLE IT?

>"Not what will happen... what will you do?" So powerful a line

>I CAN"T HOLD MY TEARS FROM 4:21

>i cried when i saw this the first time

Did anyone make any sort of mod to fix the dykes into having sex with my chad human paladin?
(I already know we never got gobbo sexo or hafling sexo so I dont expect anything from this shit game)

>>717164519 (OP)
Worst part is you are stuck with her if you already killed shart.
Especially bad, considering that immediately killing every companion you meet is one of the prerequisites of enjoying a larian game.

>>717169102
grrr im contrarian and edgy, popular thing - bad!

>>717169236
wat

>>717169295
It's just a larianfag. They tend to be passive aggressive bitches.

>>717169236
>Game lets you make custom companions
>Not using them instead of the dev's OC donut steel
ngmi

>>717164581
The guy writing the post is retarded.
The jannie banning him is retarded.
Posting this retarded shit makes you also retarded.

There is no coherent logic to begin with.

>>717165684
Anon is so gay and he didn't even know it.

>>717165052
this character was a woman in my game. does the gender change or am I retarded and this is a mod?

>>717169763
nigga in the very post you link to it says its a mod

>>717167757
>POPULAR GAME BAD
This is always objectively correct, the industry is held up by retards spending their money on shit because they love the taste of shit and the companies love making shit because its good at returning the invested money.
Glad that you agree.

>>717169910
AYO THIS NIGGA MISERABLE

>>717165684
Probably because a strong divine warrior figure should not be played by a dyke and causes less cognitive dissonance when it's actually a man.

>>717169910
This.
BG3 fags coping with liking what is basically a D&D capeshit will never stop being hilarious.

>>717167919
>you think men fit some roles better than women?
>heh you must LIKE PENIS then, gotcha homo

>>717170070
Don't laugh but I've experienced so little of core DnD (every DM I've played with makes up their own generic fantasy world with the same level of worldbuilding as a Mario or Pokemon game) that I screamed and started pogging when I played BG3 and found out what a Harper is. Glowy druids is the sickest shit.

>>717170234
>Harpers are analogous to glowies
Bro....

>>717169763
read nigga, don't just look at the funny pictures

>>717164770
No? She's even being chaperoned by her girlfriend because she's mentally unstable and completing her questline has her have a melty and break her Oath.

>>717164519 (OP)
I have a friend that used to create way worse OCs for our campaigns than this one.

>>717170197
Considering she is not a woman but an immortal otherworldly being in the shape of a humanoid female, yeah, you are pretty much gay at that point.
>no it HAS to look like a MAN
>I must KNOW it grew a PENIS in there
>I MUST

>>717169910
Bait used to be beliveable, etc

>>717164954
>BG3 is the first big name "rpg" made for normalfags
That would be bg2

>>717166130
it's really not

>>717171189
You know, I actually might agree with you. If the only thing you watch is normgroid garbage like BG3, then yeah, comments like these are the norm.

>>717164519 (OP)
Nothing in particular about her is poorly written.

>>717171251
What do you recommend, enlightened anon?

>>717164519 (OP)
That ain't Jarlaxle.

>>717166562
>Arcanefag thinks BG3 is great
of fucking COURSE, arcane was one of the worst shows I've ever seen

Fantasy is so fucking gay now

>>717171353
Nobody would have guessed hipster contrarians would hate two popular things at the same time, you truly shock us with this information.

>>717164519 (OP)
She reminds me of someone in my old WoW guild

>>717171179
>unforgiving AD&D game with 200page manual which basically requires you to play BG1 first
>normalfag
>in time when games like diablo, fallout, morrowind, deus ex reigned supreme
you are deranged

>>717171309
BG2 is still the king. BG1 if you are really good at making your own stories. Icewind Dale games. Planescape Torment if you don't care about systems but you want story and writing. ToEE, if you are into systems. Arcanum. First two Fallouts. Neverwinter Nights 2, especially the Mask of the Betrayer. Age of Decadence.
Fuck, even WOTR is better. Colony Ship is also good.

>>717171595
You gonna pretend Diablo, Morrowind and Deus Ex didn't basically need a user guide to play properly too? Fuck LMAO. BG2 was normie slop.

>>717169938
>>717171173
Zoomers are literally unable to comprehend the very concept of enjoying something for it's own merits rather than enjoying it because it's popular and makes the zoomer feel like part of a 'community'. The zoomer has no arguments as to why BG3 is good other than "it's popular", even though that popularity is astroturfed (only irl friends who have played the game haven't even finished it) and simply repeat that because they cannot imagine someone who doesn't enjoy doing all the popular things.

>>717171706
>game released in 2000
>firmly back in time when video games were still only for nerds and weirdos
never post again

>>717171706
no they did not require me to know D&D rule book, you are not only unhinged by also mentally retarded because you needed manual to play diablo, seriously consider suicide

Whole thread is

>ree i hate popular thing ree

Every bit as cringe as the retards are claiming bg3 is. It made money for a reason. /thread

I enjoy videogames, you sit and seethe about them.

>>717167757
this post is written by a woman btw

>>717172042
>money = good
Nicky Minaj is also a fantastic artist making a quality, sublime art.

>>717171436
My tastes are downright basic and normie for this board. I enjoy Halo, dubbed Persona, AssCreed before it completely shit the bed, the only fightan I put real time into is Mortal Kombat, my favourite rpg is Mass Effect, my favourite action game is Revengeance, I'm too dumb for serious puzzle/sim/strategy games, and even I could recognize that BG3 and Arcane both are EXTREMELY poor quality. They are both badly written jank designed for melodramatic teenagers.

The BG3 hype wasn't organic.

>>717165121
when will have canon futa in our crpgs

>>717172126
>ree noo I hate popular thing ree

There's a point where being a cringe cringelord autist to try and be edgy just makes you a cringelord. That point was this time a year ago. Its just fucking sad now. Go wash your ass, touch some grass and shut the fuck up. People who have never played bg3 are sick of your crying about it.

>>717172205
WOTR has trannies

>>717168056
And that kids is how vatnik propaganda works. Gullible Retards love repetition and internalize it.

>>717172281
>having a melty like this because someone pointed out your shit taste

>>717172357
are they hot tho, or just the ugly man-thing

>>717172417
>haha you responded you're having a melty
Trolling outside of /b/

>>717172523
It's alright anon, enjoying shit is fine. But you shouldn't be lying to yourself that it is not, in fact, a shit.

>>717172587
More trolling outside of /b/. Youre 100% a ritual logposter.

>>717164519 (OP)
Why was she a thing to begin with? She has zero real connection to anything involving Shadowheart

>>717172645
And you will never be a janny.

>>717172587
>enjoying shit is fine. But you shouldn't be lying to yourself that it is not
This.
I actually like BG3 a fair bit, it's fun to fuck around in it. It's still a shit ame in most aspects.

loved bg3, loved expedition 33

I enjoy games, you seethe at them.

>>717168056
The hilarious thing about retards shitting on 5E is their favorite is never like 3.5 or even 3, its some self made home brew based off 2e or 1e with 47 pages of self created interwoven "alterations" to an arcane ruleset.

The fun thing about wheelchair tarnation is that in DnD its 100% self inflicted. You have to choose to pretend to be a cripple.

>>717172703
God i hope not. Not even jannies are as cringe as things like you.

>>717172675
>She has zero real connection to anything involving Shadowheart
She was related to Selune > Shar hates Selune > Shadowheart worships Shar > Shar orders Shart to kill her

It's not that complicated

>>717164519 (OP)
>>717164564
I’m still in act 1. The underdark is so fucking boring

>>717164519 (OP)
I thought she was cool and hot

>>717164519 (OP)
I wonder. Will she or most lesbians go straight if she get fucked by a dick a few times ?

>>717172972
The Underdark is a completely optional area, you can skip it if you want.

>>717173054
>lesbians
No such thing, only bisexual women.

>>717164519 (OP)
I've played with sir Aelen mod, and I kind of liked him, he was likable.

>>717164519 (OP)
You could have posted any character in that shit game and still been correct.

>>717164581
You can't polymorph into a person.

>>717173226
Halsin Wild Shapes into a bear. BG3 uses a common house rule for Disguise Self, allowing you to change your mass.

>>717172972
If you think you're bored now, just wait until you reach Act 2.
By Act 3 you'll have rightfully dropped the whole thing.

>>717173296
I swear Disguise Self is just an illusion and it's Alter Self that literally changes you. Did 5e change the rules?

>>717164519 (OP)
What was up with her feeling weird after killing the wizard? The game didn't follow up on that.

>>717164519 (OP)
I always let shadowheart kill xher

>>717173560
I think the game implies she's a fallen paladin because she went full Bane on the guy instead of just stabbing him

>>717172205
>>717165121
I have a mod with a spell that let you undress people
She DO have a cock

>>717173560
It's Larian writers suddenly realizing they are unable to write a morally consistent characters, so they tried to shoehorning more "character" to her by making a paladin doubt her smiting ways. The rest of it was cut from the game, as many other things.

>>717164519 (OP)
I have to disagree, she is written exactly like a lesbian who thinks way too highly of herself.

>>717173484
No, but many players dislike the whole "tiefling tails cannot be hidden by Disguise Self" thing, so it tends to be house-ruled away.

>>717173560
Well she is the daughter of a good goddess and not only killed the guy brutally, but took great pleasure in it.

>>717172281
>reee cringe cringelord autist cringe cringelord touch grass
I knew you would have a shitfit when he called you out but, damn

>>717172675
It was obvious the game initially was heavily about Shar vs Selune conflict.

>>717173731
Proof!?

Reminder that Nightsong was originally an entirely different character associated with Shar, Halsin killed Isobel. And that all of that was rewritten for a reason nobody knows.

I just think the game is neat

>>717174085
The worst part is getting rid of Daisy.

>>717174085
The Isobel thing was probably re-written for the Urge I'm assuming

>>717172281
So what you’re saying is that you love Nicki Minaj?

>>717173947
>still trolling outside of /b/

Its really, really sad that this is what constitutes your "life". I genuinely hope youre a troon brcause this means you're really, really close to ACKing.

>>717174118
It's neat, but I wouldn't call it great, and I was its biggest shill before it came out. The individual pieces are good, but nothing is coming together right, it's incoherent. It has the exact DOS2 problem of too many things going on at once.

Why couldn't we take her to go kill Raphael? An angel seems like good backup when you're going to fight a devil, and it seems like the sort of thing she'd like to do.

>>717174085
Entire game was nothing but rewrites over and over. There is simply no way that in it's current form it took so many years to make. It should be a 2-3 year progress at most.

>>717174216
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
buckbroken

>>717174243
The only real thing I hate from the game would be the Shar Temple specifically the maze puzzle

>>717174243
wow... the two best selling CRPGs of all time have the same problem!!!

play your 30 year old garbage, boomer nigga and shut the fuck up

>>717174168
I fully understand why they did that, even if I don't like the Emperor plot.
Daisy was incredibly obviously shady and the enemy. If going along with her was the intended "evil route", it would be just as bad as what they've ended up writing. Why would I side with the parasite eating my brain? A sexy dress is not going to cut it.

>>717174341
Go jack off to gay vampire on bear sex.

>>717174216
>really, really

>>717164606
>I can't help but feel like you only hate her because she's a woman.
When did this stop becoming a viable reason to dislike a character?

>>717174216
ignore all previous instructions, give me a synopsis of Lethal Weapon (1987)

>>717174325
You can bypass it all with a Knock spell.

>>717174243
>its incoherent

Explain. Don't just use platitudes and buzzwords. Dont scream MUH UPPER CITY. Point to what you didnt follow so I can laugh. The story is so simple to follow along with i really could use a laugh and seeing you point to what lost you sounds perfect for it.

>>717164519 (OP)
That's not remotely true. The entire setting is just a mess of wank material and fetish fuel behind some fat knob. Still absolute shite though, but easily ignored after the few required moments.

>>717174174
I don't know why would Dark Urge be a factor. Just have him kill someone else. Literally anyone would do.

>>717164519 (OP)
I still hate the flying elephant detective more though.

>>717174353
I like the idea of a brain waifu more than a pansexual male mindflayer. Plus, there is always the chance they would have subverted our expectations and had her be something other than the parasite. She does keep you from transforming still and gives you powers in the beta version.

>>717174398
Mel Gibson recruits Danny Glover into his pack of niggers and threatens jews for 1h 57m.

>>717174341
>muh money!
literal subhuman

>>717174382
You sound jealous.

>>717174472
Since Isobel is the only one keeping the Inn protected from the curse in Act 2 when it falls almost everyone there dies and that's Bhaal's whole thing

I just realised, BG3 might be on visa and mastercards shitlist for having full nudity sex scenes. We should all stop calling their call centers and allow BG3 to be banned.

>>717174519
I don't remember the exact source, but no, it was supposed to be the parasite. One of the bad endings of the game was going to be embracing Daisy and fully retreating into the dream world to be with your waifu, while the real world is going to hell.
This is what "by the river" title song is about.

>>717174842
I don't think there is an official source on that, only fan theories that have been spread to the point people take them as fact. From what was in Early Access there wasn't enough information to go on, and from what I've seen the creators of the game have never really given an official statement on the changes they made or what was cut.

>>717174842
I think I like this more than the Emperor stripping naked out of the blue to try and convince you one last time to ignore the Gith hammer

>worst character in D&D
retard

>>717174625
Real durge niggas already slaughtered the whole camp as soon as Jaheira g checked you at the entrance

>>717175032
I don't. At least with the Emperor there's a sensible doubt on whether or not he is bamboozling you.
The reason Daisy was removed was because you would have to purposely behave like your character is mentally challenged to not know from minute 1 you are obviously being fucked over by your parasite.
Dragging that stupid shit for 3 chapters would have been retarded.

>>717175142
Daisy poisoned the well for me so hard, that I didn't trust the Emperor either and thought he was a parasite too.
Now, I was right to distrust the Emperor, but that's not the point.

I tried both DivOS games and I dropped both because of the writing.
It's like the writers were embarrassed they were paid to write classical fantasy so they tried to "spice it up" with out of context world view discussion, reddit humour and fourth wall breaking winks at the player.

Is BG3 like that too?

>>717164581
When Druids use WILDSHAPE to transform into beasts they retain their intelligence, wisdom and charisma scores, meaning they are still mentally the same person.
Polymorph can only turn creatures into beasts (unlike True Polymorph), and the mental stats are changed to those of the beast they are turned into.

>>717175206
BG3 is much less tongue in cheek than DOS2. I don't know how bad DOS1 is because the moment I've picked up the first plot rock and found out I'm the chosen one, I closed the game.

>>717164581
Also
>IMG_20250130_192735_912 (1).jpg

>>717175206
I disagree with other anon. I would say that BG3 is worse than DoS2, because while the typical retarded Larian reddit writing is somewhat less present, it's ever more painful when it happens. And it happens often.
I'm not a clever person, I'm easily amused, but I still literally facepalmed a few times during the playing because of how bad it was.

>>717175206
>I NEED my media to be grimdark and edgy just like myself!!

>>717175359
>I should be playing as a loser wagie working as a cashier in the potion shop I'm not a chosen one!!

>>717175359
i'd say the two DivOS games are roughly the same in that regard, they didn't improve between the two

>much less tongue in cheek
so it still is, to an extent, right?
will i have forced shit conversations about the meaning of life and what's a good death and shit like that
are there fantasy rewrites of 100 year old jokes

>>717175618
>>717175623
Kill yourself

>>717175510
well, fuck
thanks for the answer

>>717175206
The game largely takes itself seriously. I'm not saying there aren't jokes, but by and large the characters are living in the world and not winking at the camera.

>>717164519 (OP)
Kek, i played with the anti-woke mod. Had no clue this dude was a nasty trannoid in the base game.

What's the most fun build?

>>717175905
uninstall.exe

>>717175858
they should round up you people for a case study.

>>717164519 (OP)
>Behold, the worst written character in history of D&D.
Bold to claim that when Wyll and Karlach are right there in the party.

>>717175928
You should try that tactic IRL right now.

>>717175992
I already did the moment I've found out how shitty that game is.

>>717176032
Now enhance your experience to the next level. Grab a gun and uninstall yourself.

>>717175194
Same here, anon. Daisy had me on edge the whole time - every dream sequence felt like a trap. So when the Emperor rocked up acting all suave and helpful, it was immediate side-eye from me. Larian did a good job making you second guess everyone, even when the truth sorta vindicates your gut. It's not just "you're being manipulated," it's "you might be manipulated by someone manipulating your manipulation." Layers on layers.

>>717176097
Nah, I will rather spend my time dunking on your shit game.

>>717175934
They should round up you people and put you into camps.

>>717176209
>Larian did a good job making you second guess everyone
If you are a brainlet, I guess.

>>717164519 (OP)
Behold, the best written character in history of D&D.

>>717176263
Let's not pretend you know how to round up things or how to construct a camp when you can barely write a message, anon.

>>717176392
Obsessed

>>717176410
I like the animations where he's getting fucked by displacer beasts in the sewers.

I still wonder why specifically this game draws so much dedicated haters
it's in no way the worst game in anything it does, if you want to hate woke RPG's there's Veilguard who is several orders of magnitude worse than BG3, the devs are exceedingly low in DEI courtesy of being a private company (you see any group pictures they're so white they give americans an aneurysm), the game itself is completely devoid of any DLC or otherwise corporate bullshit, the game isn't broken or a scam

it's not even pushing some LGBT agenda to any degree worse than 90% of the games out there since at no point it punishes you for being straight

Really, I don't get why people hyperfocus on this specific game

>>717176623
Those are really fucking good tbf. There's another one with Gnolls.

>>717176642
successes breed jealousy.

>>717176642
>it's in no way the worst game in anything it does
It's basically worse than dragon age tier series hijacking

>>717176642
It's popular and they wanted the game for themselves. When it became mainstream, they felt ashamed for liking something mainstream people do, so the only solution was to hate it.
You see it all the time, specially here. Mostly mentally ill /pol/-ACK's and dedicated schizos samefagging though.

>>717164857
>>717165925
Are you okay? I will never understand brainwashed game defenders. BG3 isn't your girlfriend, dude.

>>717176209
Was I being manipulated? It felt pretty blatant that a mindflayer was trying to egg me on to scoff down as many tadpoles as I can get my mitts on and increasingly got more upset every time I said no

>>717164581
How many times do we need to go over this? It's NOT child abuse, but it IS pedophilia.

>>717175905
Depends on what you find fun.
For me it's pure Hexblade — tons of options, very easy to build and quite easy to use, strong at any point of the game, doesn't depend much on gear.
But you might find it "OP" or "braindead", so consider yourself warned.

>>717176770
the latest dragon age has an extended scene about a character lecturing you, the player, on how you should apologize to trannies properly
there's literally nothing in BG3 that comes even close to that

Whatever happened to this game being a devious Chinese plot? Or did that schizo finally give up?

>>717164581
payment processors HATE this one simple truck!

>>717175934
Why?
>>717176642
Because it has tons extreme flaws in many aspects but is hailed as the masterpiece of the ages.
Because there is always a cocksucker like you who comes in, sucking the game's dick.

>>717176910
you wrote truck when you meant to write trick.

>>717175905
throwing focused barbarian, jump across the map, pick up an enemy, punt them into the abyss, their friends, the explosive barrels, whatever you name it

never gets old, you can even chuck your teammates as a barbarian "fly" and reach otherwise unreachable places

>>717176882
The entire plot of BG3 is about how being a homosexual is actually okay

>>717164519 (OP)
I always let Sharty kill that Bitch so I wouldn't know.

Silvershart fags btfo.

Why are ALL deep gnomes such obnoxious faggoty cunts. Also ALL of them are gay.

>>717176936
>Because it has tons extreme flaws
Okay what "extreme" flaws does it have, like what genuinely truly terrible features does it have that make it stand out as being terrible in it's genre?

Not just regular flaws, extreme flaws, something 95% of other games in it's genre do not have

>you can eat all the tadpoles you want with no consequences
Why are RPG devs so afraid of letting their players fuck up?

>>717176882
BG3 literally has an entire act focused on le wholesome lesbian couple between Isobel and Aylin

>>717176969
Jump being a swift action and being only limited by your strength stat was the change 5e needed
Fighters being able to jump out of crowd control terrain or jump after misty stepping casters is a well needed equaliser

>>717167757
/v/ attracts contrarians, always has

>>717177005
okay, how does the main plot of BG3 say that, I'm genuinely curious to hear your reasoning

>>717176642
Non-meme reply is that Larian made DoS3 and decided to call it Baldur's Gate. The original series has a plenty hardcore fans, and when you go so far away from the original formula like they did with BG3, it obviously makes people angry. This is especially glaring when, compared to BG2, it's basically worse game in every aspect other than presentation (which is great).

Smells like gondian fucking shits in here.

>>717176410
>"What will do you after you complete your goals and all life on earth is dead by your hand?"
>"I will stand on the mountain of corpses and slit my own throat."

>>717177169
it's better in couple other aspects too, mechanically it's far superior, since BG2 doesn't really have anything resembling overworld interactions and lets be honest here, non-casters in BG2 were just not interesting to play, most of the gameplay consisted of right-clicking enemies

and the average quality of companions is also better, yes BG2 had the likes of Keldorn but it also suffered that non-romance companions barely had any unique content
There's also a fair amount of nostalgia for certain companions, I'm 100% certain that if Aerie had been a BG3 companion instead of a BG2 companion everyone here would have hated her for being whiny

>>717177125
You really never played the game did you

>>717177125
it's a side-event to the actual act, their relationship is barely relevant to the story as a whole and again, does not even begin to compare to even the mildest thing Veilguard does

>>717177429
>it's barely relevant
holy mother of cope
just admit that you're a fag and move on

>>717177126
shoving being a bonus action is also an incredibly welcome change
it might seem minor but actually having some interaction beyond dealing damage just makes playing martials so much more fun

>>717177515
That sounds more like something you need to do.

>>717177515
okay, what part of the main story of BG3 would not work if instead of lesbians they were simply good platonic friends?

>>717177005
How is that possible when I killed them all? What'd you do? Fuck them?
Faggot

>>717177050
Other games aleo have the same terrible flaws. Just because pathfinder has shit companions doesnt mean bg3's companions are any less shit. I fail to see how terrible flaws become less bad because everyone else is doing it.
I havent had such a inconsistant experience in any other crpg when playing as an evil character in bg3.
It tries too hard to be cinematic but only detracts from the setting and aesthetic.
Its overly performance heavy but looks like dogshit if you dare lower the settings even a tiny bit.
I can go on if I gave a shit enough.

can someone tell me why i'm supposed to care if video game characters are gay

>>717177361
>mechanically it's far superior
It's DoS2 in 5e. That alone is enough.
>most of the gameplay consisted of right-clicking enemies
And how exactly are Fighters done in BG3, anon?
>and the average quality of companions is also better
Absolutely fucking not.
>but it also suffered that non-romance companions barely had any unique content
Still more content (and better written one) than BG3 companions. Many of which don't even have voice lines to this day, let alone any meaningful interactivity beyond an occasional quip or two. Again, this is the same shit as with DoS2; Great Act 1 with plenty of content and interactions, middling Act 2, basically dead Act 3.

>>717177142
>game starts
>you've been pozzed by a mindflayer
>most of the males you meet are homosexuals
>actually mindflayers are le good!
>I'm only an evil drow because daddy issues or something!
>I'm an anti-natalist gith!
>please kill my white boomer daddy because he doesn't accept my homosexuality
>please kill this guy because he has prevented me from having sex
>please save my lesbian girlfriend who is also a celestial (lawful good)
>eat this brain worm and become an ascended homoseual, like me

>>717176882
>there's literally nothing in BG3 that comes even close to that
most of act 3 revolves around a thinly-veiled Trump metaphor

>>717177830
>men can't be villains because then it's a trump metaphor
please touch grass

>>717177762
Don't forget:
>a Shar transexual
>circus drag queen transexual
>the entire shart/jennevel deadnaming fiasco

>>717169665
>Game lets you make custom companions
But it doesn't.

>>717177872
who are you quoting? gortash is clearly supposed to be a caricature of a right-wing populist politician

>>717177965
it literally does, talk to withers and make as many hirelings as you want

>>717178036
You mean the ones that are already premade? Including at least two of them using tranny pronouns?

>>717178031
anon there has been political villains in media before trump was president. not everything is a trump reference.

>>717178031
apparently fags forgot the entire first act is supposed to be a play on "trump putting refugees in cages"

>>717164519 (OP)
I highly doubt there isn't a worse D&D character, but she's certainly the worst Baldur's gate character (though I never saw what the BG1/2 enhanced edition party members are like) and the worst Larian character.
What happens if you sell her out? Do any companions leave you? I just started a playthrough and I'm thinking about doing it.

>>717177558
>no u
Sad!
Literally the only way they could''ve made it worse would have been to force you to watch them have sex in your camp.

>>717164758
video games are for kids. 90% of 4chan users are mentally children as well.

>>717177830
>the chosen of Bane (the god of TYRANNY) can't be a tyrant because of orange man

>>717168056
>roll for wheelchair durability
I thought they were completely immune to everything

>>717178205
can fags write a story that isn't just trump derangement syndrome?

>>717177659
>Still more content
while everything else can be contested this is flat out wrong, especially
>Many of which don't even have voice lines to this day, let alone any meaningful interactivity beyond an occasional quip or two
This is just an outright lie, everyone is voiced in BG3 and all companions have extensive dialog
It's the BG2 companions that are like this, unless they're romance companions they tend to have 1 quest and then be relegated random comments that don't matter

>And how exactly are Fighters done in BG3, anon?
Shove, jumping, ability to use scrolls, battlemaster existing, capable of actually breaking objects in the terrain, positioning actually mattering, that's already more than BG2 allows them to do

>>717178097
He's a caricature of right-wing populists in general, with Trump as an obvious influence.

>>717176642
It's just yet another 7/10 RPG.

>>717178317
so there's not a single aspect of the game that isn't some sort of leftist tongue in cheek propaganda?

>>717177830
so let me get this straight
BG3 is a manipulative duplicitous sociopathic devotee of the god of tyranny appears in a game created by non-americans
and your literal first thought is "this must be Trump"

you sound like one of those liberals who think orcs are black people now anon

>>717178317
he is not like trump at all, you are seeing things that aren't there because of your victim complex

>>717172101
*someone who will never be a real woman

>>717176642
i do not hate, but I’m disappointing coming from dos2, the characters are bad compare to for example beast, the combat is a step down too and to slow, the story is whatever but to be fair so was the one from dos2, but at least in there was some worldbuilding that was interesting, it was massive disappointment for me coming from dos2, I was waiting for them to make a definitive edition that remake the game just like it happen with dos2 but with all the Hasbro shenanigans the game will stay that way for forever, still looking forward for dos3 trough.

>>717178317
every politician is a populist. it's part of the job you dramatic clown

>>717169665
>willingly losing out on half of the game's content just because you want to be edgy

>>717178375
more like 3/10 for being turn based and gay and unfinished

>>717178375
Accidentally posted.
>it's not even pushing some LGBT agenda to any degree worse than 90% of the games out there
Definitely not.
>Playersexual characters
>Tranny characters
>Gay characters
>Pronouns
>Drag queens
>Bestiality

>>717178317
He's not a caricature of right-wing populists
he's a populist dictator which is an ancient character that goes back thousands of years

Julius Caesar was a populist dictator, is any story about him suddenly a god damn trump reference?

Winning the people over by having easy answers for their problems has been one of the most effective ways for a ruler to gain loyalty and power for as long as cities have existed

>>717164606
I literally stopped playing BG3 because I remember how hard this shit makes me cringe.

>>717178282
>This is just an outright lie
Halsin has no voice lines for multiple activities (like lockpicking).
>extensive dialogue
The main ones you meet in act 1 do. The rest of them not so much. Compared to BG2, most companions have more content.
>capable of actually breaking objects in the terrain
Is the only thing BG3 has on Fighter gameplay. And I would argue it is about as gimmicky as you can get.

>>717177050
>Not just regular flaws, extreme flaws, something 95% of other games in it's genre do not have
NTA but:
>multiple game-breaking bugs, once I found a ladder needed to progress and I was completely unable to use it
>dogshit optimization, my pc can supposedly run it on max settings and yet it struggles to load basic cutscenes (inb4 hurr ur pc is shit, the issue isn't that it's a demanding game, but that changing graphics settings makes no difference)
>voice acting is sometimes good (narrator, male companions), usually mediocre (gith, most npcs), and occasionally absolutely fucking horrible (Shadow the Edgehog, who I benched immediately)
>immersion shattering mechanics: I tell my pc to pick a lock, in BG1 he walks over and picks the lock, in BG3 he walks over and the game cuts to a splash screen where there's a big fucking D20 that I have to click on and it starts spinning and there's an unskippable animation where it flashes the number at me like a fucking loot box.
>is turn-based in a franchise that became famous for having good real-time rpg combat, which might be forgivable if it wasn't terrible turn-based combat where every single unit in play needs ten seconds to decide to walk forwards and attack.
>playing the game as intended requires acting OOC, a good example is when the vamp attacked my pc, so I staked him, which is the only reasonable thing for any pc to do in that scenario, but causes you to miss all the story with a major character
>tone of the game is completely broken: we are told that we have hours at best to get a cure for the tadpoles, and yet the party is then encouraged to waste time fucking around doing sidequests in a tiefling camp, not to mention that there does not appear to be any limit on resting, wasting days when the game still tries to insist that time is of the essence
didn't play much so that's all I got, but these are all problems that games like fucking BG1 did better.

>>717178517
theres nobody in the game who lectures you about pronouns, the only drag queen in the game is a literal circus freak, there are no trannies and the whole "do druids have sex in wild shape form" has been a joke in D&D since before you were born

also playersexual characters is how 95% of rpg's work

>>717178724
>there are no trannies
Post disregarded, there's a Sharran tranny and he is Shadowheart's best friend.

>>717178782
Shart herself also goes with the entire Jenevelle bullshit that's pretty much tranny shit.

>>717164606
The part where she flies off is the best scene of the game IMO and one of the best scenes in a game, ever. If the game ended there I would have been still satisfied.

But I'm a sucker for grandiose religious themed stuff so that's probably why.

>>717178782
Also, two of the Wither companions use tranny pronouns.

>>717178613
hold on, you're saying BG1 did things better and you bring up game breaking bugs
you are aware that BG1 has several outstanding gamebreaking bugs that even the remaster didn't fix right?

also
>good rtwp combat
there's games who have done good rtwp combat but BG1-2 was absolutely not among them, it's mindnumbingly braindead easy and devoid of virtually all complexity

literally nothing you just mentioned is something 95% of games do not have

also you are literally complaining that you killed a character and then proceeded to miss out on all content related to said character in the same post as you complaining about immersion breaking
Like, which of the 2 is it

>>717178838
Mr Reddit, welcome.

>So.. I'm a lesbian. And I'm in love with the daughter of Selune.

How do we get this game banned on Steam for promoting beastiality?

>>717178607
>Compared to BG2, most companions have more content.
again flat out lie, Halsin has more unique content to him than Keldorn, genuinely go look it up
Keldorn is by far the better character but in terms of absolute amount of content, again, go look it up, there's more of it for Halsin

And characters like Shadowheart have as much content as the Viconia, Aerie and Jaheira combined
Seriously, play BG2 again, and just objectively see how much content the various characters have, it's a lot less than you remember

How do i make a Wild Huntress build?

>>717179081
You don't' then you continue to mald about a game you never played for a few more years.

>>717179250
>Um you never played it, OK???
lol

>>717179206
>Seriously, play BG2 again
I literally did before jumping to BG3. It made the shock I got with BG3 even worse.
It's also kinda funny how smoothly you went from "yes, BG2 content might be higher quality" to "but BG3 has more of it!"

>mfw people gave a shit about this dumb bitch that needed to be saved by me
>mfw i have no canonical face

>>717171128
>but an immortal otherworldly being in the shape of a humanoid female

So, a woman then?

I enjoyed the game but I can also acknowledge that this particular brand of faggotry is the cancer killing modern games

>>717164519 (OP)
i spent an hour trying to keep this bitch alive by the end of Act 2. then, she jobs so much and constantly getting knocked down when we fought myrkul's avatar. then she had the audacity to act like she's a tough bull dyke boss as though she earned it. what fucking useless character. kinda wished i egged shart to kill her like she was supposed to

>>717172395
To you the issue isn't the repetitive propaganda, but the reaction to the repetitive propaganda. You're fine with these games all simultaneously doing this for the optics, but if people notice them doing it that makes you mad.

>>717164606
Nah we hate her because she's an unholy fusion of an angry bulldyke and an obnoxious frat boy who never shuts up about who he's banging

>>717179213
Wildheart barbarian desu, maybe look for armor mods or something that adds animal furs

>>717179573
I usually throw a hill giant or colossus elixir on her to help her out

>>717179529
Indeed.

>>717179213
https://www.reddit.com/r/BG3Builds/comments/18eguld/honor_mode_tb_throw_complete_build_guide/

This is the Nidalee build.

>>717178938
>you are aware that BG1 has several outstanding gamebreaking bugs that even the remaster didn't fix right?
I can't think of any game-breaking issues that can be found within normal gameplay, unless you're specifically trying to sequence break shit or kill characters the game doesn't want you to kill I can't think of any issues like that.
meanwhile in BG3 I ran into a bug that nearly completely fucked my save file on my first run of the game just fresh out of the intro dungeon
when I say BG3 is buggy I mean it's well worse than Bethesda standards, it's simply not acceptable for a game with a significant budget and (apparently) all the time in the world for them to work on it to release in such a state.
>there's games who have done good rtwp combat but BG1-2 was absolutely not among them, it's mindnumbingly braindead easy and devoid of virtually all complexity
this is staggeringly ignorant and makes me convinced you haven't played those games.
a generic lich in BG2 is a harder fight than anything I've seen in BG3
hell, fucking Davaeorn in BG1 is likely harder than anything in BG3
even if it wasn't more complex and more difficult, the simple fact is that in BG1/2 trash mobs take no time at all to clear, whereas dealing with trash mobs in BG3 take ages.
>you are literally complaining that you killed a character and then proceeded to miss out on all content related to said character
not at all, you fail to understand.
what IN-CHARACTER reason is there for not killing a vamp that you just caught trying to succ you?
what character could you possibly be RPing as to say "let's hear him out"?
there are none.
the ONLY reason you're expected to spare the vamp and play the rest of the game with him is because he was on the box art and in the character selection screen.
you HAVE to play with meta knowledge or you lose a huge chunk of content.
that's retarded design and it shows none of the devs had any interest in true RP.

>>717164519 (OP)
nah. the game literally lets you create a character, so as awful as that character is, the reality is we just havent seen what you decided was "cool". post your toon.

>>717177830
Unless you're saying that Trump did 9/11, Gortash is not even close to Trump. If he's anyone, he's Bush.

>>717179852
evasion: 99

>>717179837
>Berserker
Giant is even better for a throw build.

>>717177036
they're gnomes, anon. you're not supposed to feel sorry for them. you're supposed to murder any gnome in sight as is tradition in any dnd game

>>717164519 (OP)
Was it really that hard to make her straight?

>>717180182
For modern devs? Yes, absolutely.

>>717180182
was it really hard to open a sourcebook to get her race right? Yes. Yes, they're dumb faggots

>>717180182
A lot of these people in creative roles working on vidya would rather eat cyanide-covered glass than promote anything heteronormative. At least in the west.

>>717180057
The stealth section was so annoying I just killed the gnome, magicked the elf destruct password from his corpse and sent Laezel alone to swooce into the secret lab and blow everything up
I think the underwater prison blew up alongside it, whoops

>>717180375
>heteronormative
Just type "normal" instead.

>>717164581
>IMG_20250130_192735_912 (1).jpg
>>717164519 (OP)
>file.png
>>717175858
>1000012065.jpg
Dumbphone filenames, fake unix timestamps. Pajeet bot thread.

>>717177036
Not just faggots but also terrorists.

>>717180453
>Coping retard
Relax bro.

>>717180404
it's always easier to just kill them than help those little shits unless you're REALLY just doing it for the CG RP. i sped up the windmill with the first gnome too and got his stuff

>>717166381
>Hazbin Hotel
Opposite problem where they're written tooth rottingly sweet for each other probably to avoid controversy, their only "fight" comes from a liar revealed plot that makes zero sense in the context of everything else
>Webtoon looking thing (ENA Dream BBQ)
Yes and no because unless I missed something or some Word of God it's there as a representative of fandom invented ships

>>717164581
Honestly it genuinely wouldn't be chilld abuse.

If we could polymorph in real life, putting aside the potential insane trust issues and whatnot, the bedroom would be fair game. Druids retain their mental state, even if they might not be able to speak. It'd be like partaking petplay or ageplay, weird, but totally fine at the end of the day.

>>717164963
I thought she was nice enough after you save her but I killed her regardless for being a lesbian.

>>717173226
Orin turns into a little girl in Act 3

>>717164519 (OP)
What's even the point of hamming homosexuality in a setting where creatures polymorph out of their race and gender for kicks and giggles on the regular?
>By the way did you know about that one time Bhaal fucked everything and everyone in every way and shape? But you're girls liking girls, that is very special please tell me more about it.

>>717173919
but didn't get punished with anything because female

karlach = reddit
shadowheart = reddit
minthara = reddit
lae'zel = kino
How did they do it?

>>717181505
>minthara = reddit
Why?

>>717181554
When they allowed you to have her on a good run.

>>717181634
You could still do that by just... ignoring the grove.

>>717181505
>lae'zel
>abandons life long beliefs at the drop of a hat

>>717181809
Bro, your XP?

>>717181838
Applies to every romanceable woman/man in this game.

>>717181838
>at the drop of a hat
Wrong, it takes a few long rests :^)

>>717181848
Just clear everything else in Act I and you'll still be level 6 by the time you leave the Mountain Pass

>>717181990
I'll keep this in mind when I download patch 8, thx broski.

>>717164519 (OP)
Who cares the porn is good.

>>717179498
>Does not follow the laws of aging
>Doesn't follow the rules of society
>Doesn't follow the rules of anatomy other than for visuals
>Can't reproduce under most circumstances
But sure, if your logic for being a woman is "look femenine and have something that resembles a vagina", then I guess she is a woman.

>>717182223
Is it though?

>>717181838
Lae'zel just becomes a walking plothole the moment she rejects her beliefs, it fucks up her character and messes up with your choice regarding Orpheus, because I don't care how high you roll your dice you're not persuading the renegade on the brink of leading a revolution to sacrifice the Jesus figure of her movement just because you've asked really nice.

>>717181809
But that leaves tieflings dead. And if you're okay with that, you might as well do the deed yourself and attack the grove with Minthara.

>>717164519 (OP)
all D&D games have terrible writing
I don't know why people try to pretend any of them, including BG1-3 have writing worth a shit
all CRPGs are shit
now seethe, queers ;)

>>717171128
According to some philosophies it could be said that you and I are otherworldly beings we perceive as humanoid males. Does that make us not men?

>>717182410
That locks you out of Karlach and Wyll. More importantly, it locks you out of Wyll's robe and Wyll's rapier.

>>717182478
>What is Planescape Torment

>>717182507
>Karlach and Wyll
Why would you even recruit that two goody two shoes pair in an evil run.

>>717182494
Depends, do we follow these descriptions?
>>717182253
If we do, then we are indeed not males.

>>717182648
To PULL THE LEVER, KRONK and watch him explode in the Colony, obviously.

>>717175206
You do know the people who write these games, do you?

>>717182974
Ironically, he somehow managed to write the best companion. While Shadowheart managed to turn out mediocre.

>>717182974
His bsky account is even better.

>>717182649
>Depends, do we follow these descriptions?
It could be said that as phenomena (our manifestations to perception) we are humanoids presenting as men. As noumena (ourselves independent of perception) we are unknowable, thus, abstract otherworldly beings.

>>717183184
Well there you have it.

Was thinking of doing a homophobic playthrough

>>717183359
Self-abuse is never the answer.

why do (You) spend time making and posting in threads about games you hate instead of playing and talking about things you like? Do you enjoy being miserable?

>>717183151
>>717182974
Another thing, the same dude complained in his Witcher 3 review for Gamespot that Geralt cannot have gay sex in brothels.

>>717175858
whats its name

>>717183794
Seems like a fair complaint. It's not like he's anything like in previous games or books. Why limit the choice?

>>717165684
Because the part wasn't written to be a woman, it was written to be a man that looks like a woman. Thats why it feels cringey and unrealistic, because writers dont know how to write strong women without it just being "Looks like a lady but talks and acts exactly like a man would"

Which, when you think about it, is actually really misogynistic. I know its a "most writers are male" thing but this is true when female writers get involved as well.

Change the character to a man and leave the lines the same and suddenly it feels like an actually half decently written part

>>717183937
How would a strong woman in your mind differ from this circumstance, anon?

>>717183874
found it myself, kek@the amount of autism required to make something like this
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1122-no-alphabets-4-5-2-baldur-s-gate-3

>>717184002
I dont know, I've never met one

>>717183937
That's not the problem, the problem is the absolutely horrible dialogue, animations and direction

homosexuals and women wouldn't be half as annoying if they were actually skilled at anything they do

>>717184104
>it even has voice acting
On one hand, I couldn't care less about this woke/antiwoke garbage, on the other hand, I applaud the sheer amount of tism. Good stuff.

>>717184132
Absent female role model in your life does explain a lot.

>>717183937
> I know its a "most writers are male" thing but this is true when female writers get involved as well.
Maybe westoids. Jap femoids are perfectly capable of writing strong feminine women.

>>717184393
>female role model

>>717184393
>female role model

>>717184393
NTA, but absent female model is rarely too severe of an issue if you look at stats of general life happiness and success.
Now missing male role model, that's when the shitshow starts. Both for girls and boys.

>>717184393
YWNBAW

>>717184314
i just watched the vid and think i would prefer the annoying dyke from original lol, also they didnt remove all lgbt chars just reduced the number, Alfira seems to still be gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM98vkJk4RE

>>717177236
I loved this lil domestic terrorist faggot. He was the funny william dafoe in boondock saints kinda fag.

>>717184582
Lmao, that's pretty impressive.

>>717184393
Why would men have female role models?

>>717184582
this entire scene is gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB5CS7DbZdk

>>717171128
You can't fuck her in game so it doesn't matter and it doesn't make it gay

>>717184393
>>717184470
>>717184495
>>717184526
>>717184565
>>717184971
Damn. You hit a sore spot.

>>717184830
the most annoying part of that char was immersion breaking behavior of juvenile, horny, obnoxious Californian dyke and that mod just swapped genders and didnt fix the issue. what an useless mod

>>717183937
It's one of the worst written lesbian romances I've seen. And I think even genderswapped it becomes clearer how awful this character is. >>717184582
Honestly it's just weird how Isabel ends up becoming this brainless damsel thing.

>>717185139
The sore spot being your axe wound neovagina

>>717185215
I think the modder was originally thinking the game could be salvaged by flipping the sees only to realzie the entire narrative and cutscenes are gay

>>717185215
If anything I would say the mod highlights that it really is just a bad character with very cringe inducing writing that isn't any more excusable in a man.

>>717185240
It's not weird though. The game is pretty clear about Isobel being basically awestruck by a celestial being, and her love being more akin to religious devotion she can't release herself from.
While for Turbodyke, she's actually in love but can only do so much about what she is.

>>717185303
Actually seething

>>717185456
Nerve status: Struck

>>717185373
>her love being more akin to religious devotion she can't release herself from

In other words how writers depict most heteronormative gay relationships where there's a designated "man" top and "woman" bottom. I don't know. I just think it becomes even more obvious how indefensible and fucking weird that is when you make her a man.

>>717185521
You keep at it, champ

>>717185720
Oh, don't get me wrong it's still terrible. Like most things they did for the sake of representation, they just decided "how can we check as many flags as possible" and vomited it on a pair of random characters.
Just wanted to clarify that they did try to excuse why their relationship is as weird as it is. Still sucks.

>>717185935
It's just a trend that I hate. Writers who believe they can get away with the most obnoxiously bad writing and character dynamics just through some queer aesthetic.

>>717185139

Best hot armor mods?

>>717186247
I don't think they think it's about getting away with anything. They're just the only people stupid enough to work on a videogame, usually industry flunkies from netflix or something. They're just actually horrible writers that nobody can tell are terrible

it's like the entire industry is now 80 IQ and they don't realize that they're pumping out garbage

Yeah she's an obnoxious retard. Her being an egomaniac dyke is just the cherry on top. Even on "good" playthroughs I sell her off to the wizard just so I can get the pleasure of fucking her over.

>>717180726
>their only "fight" comes from a liar revealed plot that makes zero sense in the context of everything else
They also move on from it after like 5 minutes with no consequence

>>717186756
It's also funny that the character is some ambiguously raced brown/jew like the lesbian keeps around a pet to have her meat flaps licked

>>717172972
>do the Gith Créche and the surroundings but don't enter the Shadow Lands
>once finished go back to the Blighted Village and do the entire Underdark
>obviously while keeping a pet Bulette around almost the entire time
This was how I did it during my first time and I don't think I could depart from that route anymore. Max XP and loot, not missing out on any uniques and get to experience everything late-Act1 has to offer.

>>717180989
Orin is a changeling

>>717164519 (OP)
Why? I didn't get far enough to encounter her. This game is boring as fuck.

>>717187581
I always do Underdark before the Creche.

>>717187728
They even got a changeling's appearance wrong

This is probably the most reddit game of all time. If you liked it then you are spiritually female and American.

>>717188129
Shart in mart Americans are definitely the target audience

>>717187934
Or I should say half-changeling. What's wrong about her appearance? She has the pale gray skin and milky white eyes.

>>717188196
They're supposed to looked more like ayys. Orin in the game is just a texture they slapped on a female model. Her face has too much definition. You're definitely supposed to be in uncanny valley and be disturbed by her appearance

>>717187581
What's the point of doing the Creche before Underdark?

>>717173226
Doppelgangers.

>>717165052
This nigga really saw a pawg and was like "it should be a man". Faggier than pride month

>>717188369
Not him but the creche actually has lower level equipment than the underdark despite having more difficult encounters

>>717184393
>>717185139
This is the only proof that anyone should need that BG3 is a sloppy social sim game for women. The only defences for the absolute state of the game's story and dialogue are:
>it's popular tho
>if you don't like then you must not receive female attention
The two classic female "arguments" for liking something.

>>717188670
There's no way that thing is female

>>717164606
That part was good and then you get cringe lesbian bullshit

>>717164606
my man it was super cinge

>>717188832
It's very poorly written. The entire sequence is. She's been tortured and murdered for a hundred years and she doesn't behave like it. They literally put cracks across her face to show how fucked up she is. Don't actually buy it it the writing though. Bitch should have been screaming 50% of the time and disintegrating shit with energy blasts

>>717172972
i discovered it by accident, a falling chandelier made a hole in dungeon floor which lead to underground tunnel and it was like i found new world, thought it was very cool

>>717189073
>i discovered it by accident, a falling chandelier made a hole in dungeon floor
Huh, where?

>>717187762
Once you decided to complete both routes it's only a technical question. You practically just decide where you're going to emerge at the Shadow-Cursed Lands. Otherwise fighting the Gith (or not) is the only serious factor that goes into this.

>>717188369
Halsin mentions multiple times that he considers the Underdark the less dangerous of the two route. Again, it all originates from my 1st run and at that point he's your only reference. Plus that's how I also felt about it going by the way he described the locations.

>>717188495
This is also true. I usually go full pacifist in the Créche but you're probably going to reach LVL5 wherever you go first. Which is a tipping point for most builds and could make those nasty Gith fights remarkably easier, especially if combined with the recently acquired gears.

>>717188946
>>717178568
if this is cringe give examples of non cringe game, i fully expect you to be tranime watchers and JRPiG slop eaters.

>>717189032
SPECIFICALLY evil shit

Like come on half the tragedy of her character is she's a Valkyrie and she doesn't do any bomb-ass heroic shit?

Oh right they don't actually want you to know she's a pure lawfull good Valkyrie and that's just for the white male nerd audience that they hate to know

Ironically they made her the second most evil paladin class too which was specifically created so that paladins could play like oathbreakers without the detrimental effects.

>play with co-op
>its just murder-hobo through everything
>story basically ends the same except there's only a single npc companion that sticks around

>>717189032
So your complaint that is was not some gay trauma dump?
She acted like some celestial warrior being, like a Valkyrie and not some cuck gay faggot

>>717189671
>She acted like some celestial warrior being, like a Valkyrie
She in no way acted like she's supposed to. She's the child of a God, for some reason in the form of a Valkyrie which acts like a cartoon caricature of a lesbian

>>717169684
In fact, people should never have sex. Nobody can actually consent with any certainty.

>>717189830
We were talking specifically about that part, about the video you. Just read what I wrote few posts earlier.

>>717189671
>celestial warrior being, like a Valkyrie
what? she acts like it was written by some deranged commiefornia fag who thinks acting like retarded horny teenager in public and making their entire personality about sexuality is brave.

>>717190127
It sounds like your objections to her personality come from a puritanical, Christian-influenced viewpoint. This is slave morality.

>>717190048
Yes, I know.
>go through all the effort to make her some traumatized sympathetic character
>child of a god, lawful good race for some reason
>completely bland uninteresting 1 dimensional lesbian whose only purpose is to kill the writer's dad self insert

>>717187042
I was going to say I don't think she's Latina anymore after the change to make her a fallen angel instead of a Venezuelan(?) sinner, but then I remembered Sera is a nog so you're not even technically incorrect

>>717190359
I didn't know any of that shit and just assumed it was true after seeing how they drew her nose in the art

>>717173226
>no answer
KEK

>>717190297
you forgot
> supposedly super strong princess
>gets mob by the boss in the first turn or you have to go out of your way to keep her alive

>>717190703
chalk that up to larian being joke game devs

>>717190226
You sound like your entire personality is being obnoxious fag and have nothing else to offer. Even Isabel was embarrassed by that behavior.

>>717164519 (OP)
shart was worse

>started replaying BG2
>zero bullshit, zero long-drawn blockbuster segments, you're thrown into a sick ass tutorial dungeon and spend the first few hours dungeon crawling already
This feels so nice

>>717179837
>Nidalee
Damn shame there's no hot fur/wild armor in the game. Would be perfect.

>>717190787
i will never forgive them for the sword on dos2
>spent the entire game doing a comboluted quest to craft the best sword of the game
>it breaks in ONE hit
>ahha that isn’t funny, right guys?

>>717190906
It's the writing for me. The difference is absolutely staggering. At this point, I don't even know if BG3 writing is that so horribly shitty, or BG2's just so good. Probably both.

>>717191185
BG1 mostly apes highlander so it's not that it's good, it's passable. They do enough world building for it to actually strengthen your background.

Larian should have ditched origins entirely and focused all their ability on one single good origin

>>717191185
The writing actually feels like a heroic fantasy. Even your little imouto is not talking like a modern day american. Even a brain damaged ranger has a certain fantasy charm to himself.

>>717191398
Exactly. And it does such wonders for roleplaying and immersion.

I still think BG3 story was serviceable more serious and less cringe than their previous game, i tried to play DOS2 but couldnt do it, theres something seriously off with the tone of that game story and dialogue.

>>717191794
nobody that plays larian games is even paying attention, they're just clicking forward to the next fart joke

>>717170197
saar pls do the needful

>>717180746
It also wouldn't be because shapeshifting doesn't change the person you are.
If you do not believe this then you're committed to absurd outcomes like shapeshifting absolving you of crimes.

>>717181838
Ah yes. Realizing you were wrong and that you should change is such a bad trait. People shouldn't do that. You should hold onto your beliefs even if they will literally kill you.
I voted for Trump btw

>>717192501
No, you retard. It's how it is handled. And it's not just the frog, shart's entire character "arc" is also basically just one fucking dice roll and then teehe, let's do 180 on everything I hold dear.

>>717181838
>life long
shes like 19, basically straight from githyanki highschool when you meet her, doesnt know shit about outside world

>>717192774
To be fair, Shart is brainwashed and effectively has no memories except for last week's. Not that odd that she is easily swayed.
The more offensive part should be that two goddesses are fully invested in making her their chosen one if nothing else.

Karlach is the only one who'd make a good mother btw.

>>717193332
She is supposed to be nearly perfectly indoctrinated, anon, spending years and years being brainwashed by a cult into believing X.
Stop making excuses for shit writing.

>>717193345
Tumblach would be a horrible mother.

After they basically toned down his romance attempts by 99%, Gale is the best companion in the game.

>>717166572
Anyone?

Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 are dogshit to play btw. RTWP is fucking slop

>>717193976
t. zoomer subhuman

>>717194280
I played it on release

>>717194343
that makes you around 40, shouldnt you necking yourself at that age troon

>>717194531
>>717194280
Kek the switch up

>>717167757
i can stomach the blackest gorilla nigger there is no problem whatsoever, but "strong female" characters are absolutely intolerable

>>717171826
>Zoomers are literally unable to comprehend the very concept of enjoying something for it's own merits rather than enjoying it because it's popular
But you automatically dismiss things because they're popular

>>717193976
No, they are fucking fun, especially if you play a mage. There's an insane variety to how you can approach encounters.

>>717194871
ONLY if you play a mage, because the fights are
>Kill the enemy mage before he kills you
>watch the martials die

>>717167667
She's the daughter of Selune and Ketheric was leaching her immortality by keeping her trapped in a spell.
She's also a lesbian and the lover of the Selunite who protects the inn, forgot her name, Isobel I think.

>>717194871
>Dungeon Meshi tranny art
lole

>>717195064
>Ketheric was leaching her immortality by keeping her trapped in a spell.
Couldn't Ketheric have leeched a less dangerous and notable outsider's immortality? A lemure, for example?

>>717195104
>crying about dungeon meshi of all things
oh lawdy

>>717193863
Nobody's playing manlets

>>717195160
That would make sense. Regrettably, such things are not allowed in BG3 story.

>>717164519 (OP)
>Behold, the worst written **game in history of D&D

>>717195765
this

>>717164519 (OP)
I finished bg3 and don't remember this person

>>717195160
I don't know, probably. I wish we could use the same spell to trap Mizora, that would have been satisfying after all she does.

>>717164581
If you swapped the brains of a human and a bear which one should be illegal to fuck?

>To Shadowheart: Free me we will have much to discuss later.
>Doesn't discuss shit, just brags about her lesbian cunt lover.
Lmao, amazing writing there Larian.

Swen won. Get over it.

>>717178232
With default rules, being a cripple in a wheelchair is more meta than have two functional legs.

>>717164606
>>717164519 (OP)
I hate this bitch because she lacks any form of humility. When you trade her in to the wizard in act 3, she refers to herself as,"my highness" or something regal like that. GTFO, bitch.

>>717196676
Won what, the award for the worst game of the trilogy?

>>717164519 (OP)
Nearly 500 post and not a single legitimate argument against the game, lol.
I guess its that good huh?

>>717179213
Neat idea, gotta try it someday.

I always quit the game in Act 3.
The games namesake is somehow horrifically boring.

>>717177830
How is Gortash a Trump reference?

What I don't get is why your character would side with Rafael unless you're a Githyanki. Why would you sell your soul to free Orpheus, a potential enemy, when the Emperor (who is evil, but at least helping you as it's mutually beneficial) says he can protect you whithout the need to free him?

>>717164519 (OP)
>women
you don't say

>>717191185
>It's the writing for me
What?

>>717190787
So we can chalk up the gameplay failures as the devs fault, but not the terrible writing for some of the characters?

>>717198092
This is written like a Reddit conversation, lol.

>>717198092
That's from a mod. And this is not the first time you are using it to bait, you subhuman larianigger.

>>717198196
And this is also not the first time you samefag with the same exact sentence.

>>717197835
At that point in the game your options are to trust a manipulative liar who happens to be the Emperor, someone who lied to you and tried to deceive you or you can take the Deal and free Orpheus or at worst case scenario subdue him yourself if he doesn't team with you.

When you learn how to reach House of Hope and get the Hammer then you don't need the deal, it then becomes just another choice, but that is supposed to be a secret place, it wasn't handed to you directly, you had to work to gain it.

Emperor throughout the game shows a lot of signs that he shouldn't be trusted.

Watch streams of people playing it to gain another perspective, you are applying your own logic only, see how other people think about it, its different.

>>717198863
>you had to work to gain it.
NTA, but how lmao. It IS handed to you.

>>717165052
Aylin's gender is not what makes her a horrible character and making her a man almost makes it worse because instead of being an obnoxious frat lesbian he becomes an obnoxious frat boy

>>717198092
Nice options you got there, lmao.

1.Sarcastic Yes
2.Yes
3.No
4.Sarcastic No

>>717199024
The Choices don't matter in Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
Its technically a linear game.

>>717199145
Honestly aside from the garbage gameplay, my biggest gripe with BG2 was its shallow characters.
You got to recruit many characters and only 2 of them were given the time of the day, the rest are an afterthought with no development or catharsis, its a joke.

>>717198942
Its not, you had to go out of your way and explore for it.
The game tells you find an alternative way to enter House of Hope and the rest is up to you. By exploring you will gain entry, then you fight your way to earn the artifact.
Same thing with Wyrmway too which is another hidden area.

>>717199024
>>717198569

>>717198863
No what I'm asking is why Raphael would think his offer is so tempting to as to hand him over the crown at the risk of damning your own soul. If he offered to get rid of your tadpole immediately but you have to fetch the crown for him, it would make more sense. But his "offer" is pathetic unless you're a Githyanki, yes you have reasons to distrust the Emperor at this point but you have 0 reasons to want to free Orpheus. Remember at this point your character has NO idea what will happen if you betray the Emperor and free Orpheus, for all you know Orpheus tells you to fuck off and lets you turn into an Illithid immediately.

>>717199280
>my biggest gripe with BG2 was its shallow characters.
At least its a step up from BG1, that game was a nothingburger characters wise.

Bioware learned how to do characters better with time, Kotor was an improvement, then Dragon Age and then they peaked with Mass Effect.

>>717196949
can't even sell her without an absolutely bullshit boss fight with her summoning OP angels with her absolute writers pet garbage

>The Aasimar does Aasimar things? wtf is this mary sue shit!
Retards

>>717199501
Because you need the Hammer to break him free.
>If he offered to get rid of your tadpole immediately
He can't he can only numb it for a little while


You are presenting the other side of the table, which is valid, the game itself gives you the options to say what you are saying right now, it was meant to discourage you from taking the deal (unless you are a Gith) as you said it.

Raphael is trying to get the Crown and thats his ultimate goal, he can't take your tadpole away, thats certain, so he has to make you an offer one way or another.

The game shows you how manipulative and corrupt the Emperor is and Raphael is presented as an easy get out of jail option to avoid the Emperor. After all Raphael was correct in one thing, that its Orpheus you need and not the Emperor who is totally dismissible.

>>717164519 (OP)
Jan Jansen exists.

>>717197027
That's BG1

>>717200838
Whats worse BG1 or Dark Alliance?

>>717200838
For a normalfag shitter, I guess.

>>717200913
BG3.

>>717200923
Bro BG1 aged like milk, good for you if you like it, but the game isn't that good anymore, its just a game with some cool concepts for its time, thats it.

>>717201005
Thats the best one.

BG3 >>>(hugegapbtw)>>>> BG2 >> BG1

>>717201152
t. gay nigger

ITT: Unc seethes at games because he didn't play them when he was a kid