Who here coming back for 0.3? #hype

>>717164864 (OP)
>7 more patches till full release
i wish i was excited but I know all theyre going to do is just import mechanics from POE 1

go back #cullnormalniggers #getnormiesoutofgaming

>>717164953
>7 more patches
lol
You're going to get 0.10 after 0.9

>>717164864 (OP)
no hype until they add shadow/duelist

nah

i want 1.0

>>717165042
They showed shadow recently in some promotional footage, its possible its coming in 0.3

druid in 0.14
shadow in 0.12
paladin somewhere 0.16-0.18

>>717164864 (OP)
I'm already burned out and ggg killed all my trust

I'll play when they add skills that are usable with more than one weapon type.

>>717165042
cya in 2029

>>717165109
How did they kill your trust exactly?

I have a strong feeling that doomers will get BTFO when the trailer drops.

>>717165239
he wanted poe 1.2 not a new game
he's a stupid retard.

>>717165267
You guys said that the last two times

Not playing until they add delve or something similar.

who woulve thought that trying to pander to a """"broather audience""""" was a terrible idea. just look at the absolute state of poege

>>717164864 (OP)
no one

>>717164953
>>7 more patches till full release
I thought that early access would be 6 months to a year. It's already been almost a year, and it's just 0.3. Didn't they aim to get it released this year? When the fuck does it come out?

I was planning on hopping into poe2 when it comes out of early access. I hate wipes and I still have a lot to do in poe1, since I haven't played for years and jumped into mercenaries league.

Also kinda this>>717165042
My fav classes.

member when jonathan said 1.0 would happen in about a year from 0.1 LOL

>>717166962
poe1fags are to blame

>>717166962
I even remember
>it's ~6-12 months of EA
being posted.
FUCKING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717166962
i never believed him on that.
They are obviously milking their chink overlords out of all funding possible to deliver a good game slower that they would have ever approved of.

>>717164864 (OP)
nah, i will play new Lich and Necromancer in Last Epoch 1.3

>>717164953
>till full release

Lmao, silly you. We ARE in full release already and they just masquerading 1.1, 1.2, 1.3... under 0.1, 0.2, 0.3... sauce.
In 1.0 the game will be basicaly as bloated as current PoE1, put on lazy maintanace support and you will be hyped for PoE3.

>>717164864 (OP)
slog

>>717168197
>last sleepoch

>>717166962
man I swear he just threw that out there like it wouldn't immediately become a meme. every time they open their mouths it's another "actually we re-evaluated our timeline" and suddenly 0.4 is Q1 2026. by the time 1.0 drops we're gonna have grandkids grinding Act 2.

>>717164864 (OP)
>back
I was never there

>>717165151
You mean like bow skills in PoE 1?

>>717170543
oh like puncture and frenzy and ele hit

>>717164864 (OP)
when is the stream?

>>717168559
Still more fun for about a week of gameplay than Poop2.

>>717164864 (OP)
>refused to buy early access
>read reviews now
Keks had

Ill wait for 1.0 and MAYBE ill play. For now there's zero reason to buy this shlop

>>717171161
>I'm poor
k

>>717168559
>I love Last Epoch. That is my answer to that statement.
>I like that game too...

maybe if daggers are in

>>717164864 (OP)
This shit is DOA with release date somewhere in 2027 if they push only act 4 in 0.3

>>717164864 (OP)
not playing until all acts are added. running the same 3 over and over is fucking cancer.

>>717171193
Geg

>>717164864 (OP)
already got massively burned out on act 1-3 just from two patches, not going back until full release

>>717164864 (OP)
I will come back when there is more than 3 performing builds per class

>>717164864 (OP)
My checklist is
1) Did they improve the passive tree to be way more flexible than it is now?
2) Did they fix armor?
3) Did they add duelist?
4) Did they add shadow?
5) Did they add swords?
6) Did they add meaningful endgame content?
If all of these is yes, then I come back, until then no

cringe marketing thread

>>717164864 (OP)
they'd need a massive amount of new content to get me to come back. Stale builds and mechanics ripped straight from poe1. No crafting. Shit end game. No identity of its' own. It's just poe-lite

>>717172307
>its not enough like poe
>>717172397
its too much like poe

Which is it?

Is the starting ascendancy notable for Bloodmage still fucking OBLIGATORY AND FUCKING KILLS YOU AS EARLY AS ACT 3!?
Who fucking designed that shit, that better change or I'm not playing.

>>717172569
First, not the same anon, retard
Second, im asking for shit they promised (im the first anon), the game is barebones as shit right now, both in content and in diversity

>>717164864 (OP)
I already beat all the pinnacle bosses on two characters so unless they add something genuinely substantial, no. I play through a poe season like once every couple of years usually. I find it mind boggling that people just play ARPGs over and over. This is literally the only replayable one because of the economy, and even this is too much of a waste of time to play on a nonstop loop. I think the people that have over 1000 hours in stuff like diablo and grim dawn are genuinely mentally retarded and should be kept in a cage for their own safety.

>>717172958
You're supposed to play different builds

>>717172997
I do. Every couple of years.

>>717164864 (OP)
waiting for totems/brands then ill come back.

>>717164864 (OP)
When is the rest of the campaign?

>have to do the most painful, shitty story THREE TIMES
>when PoE 1's 3 (4 with Malachai) flew by in less than a day
no
fucking
thank you

>>717165349
And you guys been doomposting poe for more than a decade and the game still exists, funny how that works huh...

>>717164864 (OP)
When exactly was 0.3 coming out?

>>717164864 (OP)
>Who here coming back for 0.3

No. After 300 hours it was all a complete waste of time. Its not a fun game, its a bullshit game. The crafting is all fucked, the loot is mostly worthless, the trade system is still a fucking primitive joke (inb4 but thats just tr00 ARPG mang), the Devs still think we give a fuck about cosmetics in spite of their new game being absolute dogshit. Enjoy your Trial of the Suckamas and broken Trials of Chaos, you dogshit scop eating faggots.

>>717172606
Yes that's the point
Make sure you have more ES

>>717174643
It will get better with time when they add more content. It was the exact same with PoE 1 and D4

>>717164864 (OP)
>paid early access for a f2p game

vantablack antimatter coal from niggerhell

>>717175453
Its not really paid because you get store credit anyways

>>717177028
Tell that to their quarterly earnings report

>>717164864 (OP)
I dunno. I regret coming back for 0.2, it added basically nothing to the game. Huntress/Spears were okay but that is about it. Rogue Exiles need a lot of fine tuning and the wild spirits or whatever are a nothing burger.
If 0.3 adds in Druid + reworks a bunch of skills/ascendancies/adds an actual new league mechanic instead of a PoE1 one (reskinned or otherwise) I might check it out. Rumors are act 4 will come but I doubt that. It makes no sense. How will they structure the game? Just repeat acts 1/2? I don't really get it.

>trying to do ascendancy
>game crashes on the twins boss twice
>have to restart, no refunds on the entry fee
Dropped the game right then and there.

>>717164864 (OP)
If I had the technical knowhow I'd make a 60+ minute video going over all of the issues with PoE2. They run deep, and expressing it in one 4chan post is impossible.

>>717178264
To be honest 0.2 at release didnt add much but 0.2 overall with all the mid patch changes has added quite a bit. Theres a lot of new fun uniques now, and theres a lot more map types

>>717178880
Yeah I saw 0.2 got a lot of patches but I ended up quitting relatively early into mapping. I got to tier 16s but basically quit almost immediately after that.

Druid might be fun
But they made a whole event and thing for huntress with the whole dawn of the hunt and animal spirits thing
Will they do that for each class?

>>717172219
This. Make skills fun

>>717172219
That'll come with more content and classes
Unless people exploit

>>717164864 (OP)
>Who here coming back for 0.3
What will they even add this time? The last update only had "new class", 3 ascendancy and only one new weapon with few new skills or support gems.
This game get even less updates than your average early access scam

I'll be here for 1.0 when it's free

>>717164864 (OP)
>SAAR BUY THE STASH TABS
>DIABLO BAD
>BLIZZARD BAD
>I GIVE MONEY TO GGG NOW INSTEAD

>>717184902
>blizzjeet shill on queue

>unless i want to play as a coon or a woman I have to play mercenary
>it sucks
I'm good

Is it free yet? I'm not paying for a game with MTX.

>>717165373
They did, it's called the atlas.

>>717165042
>Deadnaming them
They're called the *Assassin and *Gladiator now chuddy.

>>717184902
Yeah... Path of Exile known for its big Indian community...
You should post a korean instead, since the game is popular in Korea.

>>717166546
The beta was suppose to come out like 8 years ago, these guys have horrible management skills and always miss deadlines.

>>717164864 (OP)
This game was designed from the ground up to sell you currency on a "third party" website. But of course as everyone knows these website's are owned by the same people who own GGG

Reminder that literally nobody wants a boring 40 hour campaign in their ARPG, its only there because GGG gets high twitch viewership when they run their "race" so its artificially padded out and purposely designed to be tedious for people who don't play the game for a living.

>>717187831
Retard.
People are already clearing Act 1-3 in 2 hours.
Once all acts are out and everyone has learned the optimal way to beat them, it will be faster to clear the PoE 2 campaign than the PoE 1 campaign.

You're just a low IQ shitter who can't adapt to change on his own, maybe wait some sloptuber makes a guide for you to follow like a good little brainlet cuck.

Im trying my best to wait for full release because I actually do like PoE2s basic foundation better than PoEs, but fuck I was not expecting updates to be this slow.

>>717188042
You type like you pay for currency

>>717186404
You dont have to, you can turn any class into any-
>ascensions exist
Oh, right, nevermind. You actually are forced to play certain classes.

>>717173721
There's no Merciless difficulty in PoE 2
You only do Normal and Cruel

PoE2s combat could be great, and in combination with it's weapon swap system it could be the best game everrr
but it's not there yet

reminder that poe cultists willingly paid money to do GGG's job for them, have every single bit of feedback ignored and the game is still a directionless cash-grab

>>717188353
But enough about fubgun

>>717174643
I don't like the new in-game item filter and some of the new trophy challenges are retarded. Not a fan of what it sounds like is happening with the Library of Fate getting like 12 higher level versions because the devs hate the dimensional labyrinth but don't want to make it better. Other than that Median XL is the best ARPG by quite a bit in my opinion.
Imagine actually having character progression beyond just finding random items in the endgame.

Have you ever been so upset about a game's potential you wrote a thesis, /v/?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT-m-jOy8LDgo_uui2p-AfnFnQq2BHeWuHU5MyAgvgDQCD9_fdrz6EYt4JBoDcuDEbcvnz1U2xYdA5h/pub

>>717189027
yeah it's kind of fucked up to ever have any kind of interest in anything, i agree
idk why everyone just isn't a nihilist who avoids any kind of sincerity or honest opinion like the plague

>>717188740
They did this before as well with the act 4 and 3.0 (((betas))), so poetards got conned three times instead of once

What is the best ARPG ever made? I only ever played Diablo 2 skelemancer.

Question for controller users, is there a way to make it so that L2 is a toggle instead of a hold?
My idea was to have weapon 1 on skillbar 1 and weapon 2 on skillbar but this doesnt work if I have to keep L2 held down the entire time.

top feedback thread on forums is just "Titan Quest 2 is better and has better combat"
what do we do /2bros/?

>>717188042
remind me what the world record speedrun right now is for campaign in each game?

>>717164864 (OP)
ARPG fans are hilarious. They get ultra hyped for every shitty early access game, every boring new season, every dogshit patch, try to get all their friends to no life the game with them, and then they quit after 2 weeks and never talk about that game again because D2 clone #45123 is about to hit early access.

>>717189242
but enough about TQ2

>>717188325
Same. I was fully on board to give them the time they need because the pre-EA media was showing stuff like Druid, Templar, Acts 4 and 5, etc. so I actually believed them when they said a lot of stuff not ready for EA launch is like 80% of the way done. I think what really burned me was no druid on launch but they said it was almost ready, and now it sounds like they're pushing that back even more. And there's been so little actually added to EA since last November, getting close to a year now.
I think they're doing good work for the most part, but they have absolutely terrible project and time management. I really think Chris leaving fucked the whole company hard. Jonathan just isn't a great leader, I like him but he's not doing a great job wrangling tards or managing project timelines.

>>717189027
i really like this focused autism writing shit, it reminds me of early 2000's blogs. Also, poe2 is just shit, i've played a lot of last epoch, titan quest 2, grimdawn, diablo 1, 2 and 3, but THIS game, poe 2, is just so bad, i've played for like 3 hours and dropped it, it's just not fun

>>717189181
It still doesn't get better than diablo 2

They fucked up this update cycle so bad, I loved my first run through and was doing maps but the idea of doing all that and having everything erased 10 times over the course of 2 years only to just do it again by the time 1.0 is out sounds like insanity. I think by the time 1.0 is released I might not even remember this game even though I really enjoyed my time with it at “release”.

>>717172307
>Did they fix armor?
they cant

>>717189282
I dont even know what that is, but I'm guessing if I did a youtube search of TQ2 the very first video would be some balding guy with a beard calling it the next Diablo 2

>>717189027
I always just assume that anyone who complains super hard about PoE2 just wants the ability to teleport around with 0 cooldown and mash AoE.

>>717189447
read it, it's pretty in depth and actually compares how stale feedback from PoE1 blocks 2 from becoming the 'perfect game it set out to be'

>>717189214
retard

>>717189242
>try to get all their friends to no life the game with them,
Keyword is try. Nobody wants to play with me.

>>717189447
dumb reductionist nigger

I do not care for a game made by employees who calls it a "diablo-like"

>>717189581
But thats actually all what hardcore Poefags want. The fastest screen clears.

PoE 2 needs to play like this

>>717189558
Because everyone knows you'll rush to endgame before them and then quit.

>>717189540
I'm watching a professional gamer being coached by supposedly the fastest player in the game take 2 hours in act1...

>>717164864 (OP)
Why is Path of Chudile even popular, it looks like shit.

>>717189689
why does no one post flicker webms when complaining about PoE1
flicker is the most based spell in games period

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgntS_0qQFE

>>717189783
>Why isn't this guy learning already reaching record breaking times!
YOUR SO FUCKING DUMB STOP REPLYING TO ME NIGGERBRAINED RETARD HOLY SHIT

>>717189689
it basically does and that's why I stopped playing

>>717189964
all you need to do is provide a video of someone clearing a1-3 in 2 hours :)

>>717189831
because it's all about the destination
>campaign?
yawn just walk to the end
>white to red maps?
yawn just spam them till you get to t16s
>t16s?
drop 1 div, buy half your Best in Slot gear
>then what?
Keep repeating t16s to get faster at t16s until you can't buy anything better

that's the game

This is PEAK arpg gameplay, not that slow af rollslop in poopshit2

>>717190000
I made 4 characters in PoE2 in a week or so
most of that is due to walking, not difficulty or mob hp
the maps are big

no loopin no playin

>>717190000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Fo0IJe3QU

WHOOOA it's almost like there have been multiple PoE 2 race events.

>>717189689
PoE 1 died to me the moment Vaal Fireball builds in Dried Lake became the meta like 10 years ago.

>>717190105
that's the main issue people have

>>717189783
>yea bro just be paid to play poe2 and get coached how to play the long ass campaign

>>717190042
Yep, looks just like 'ablo doo

>>717190042
this is literally just diablo 1 but faster paced

>>717189689
absolute kino poe1autism.
poe2 could never.

>>717190042
This but unironically, if you think slower gameplay is better you are just a casual normalfaggot, simple as

>>717189203
Grim

>>717190042
This kind of build is what GGG balances the game for btw

>>717190472
Dawn is also pretty good

Zones should be nothing but tiny straight corridoors because thats the most optimal for divs per hour, adventure? exploration? inefficient and irrelevant.

>>717190042
this but unironically
autismkino

still waiting for it to go f2p
simple as

>>717190465
not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx-uyfvH2FY

>>717190042
How much is this video sped up?

>>717190543
Don't forget, nothing should ever damage or even threaten me, that's just bad game design. If something does damage it should send me a letter in the mail and I should have many opportunities to nullify that damage completely.

>>717190670
Its not, you can look at the buff timers in the top left.

>>717189027
do you agree, /v/?

>>717189689
>>717190042
>>717190135
I love PoE so fucking much bros
Nothing will ever come close to that game
In an alternate universe PoE 2 added new classes, 4th ascendancies and massive graphical upgrade to PoE 1 instead of this rollslop shit we got served.
But i still love PoE so f*cking much bros

>>717190723

>>717190543
>adventure? exploration
maybe normalfaggot d*d"""gamers"'"" value this in their arpgs but its already old by the 15th playthrough and will be really old on the 100th character

>>717190817

>>717190817
I keep getting mixed signals as to whether or not Poe2 is just as broken as Poe1. If it is, couldnt you just unbind roll and be done with it.

>>717190135
Did you skip 0.1 or something

>>717190983
80% of POE2 fags have never played POE1

Chris Wilson killed the ARPG genre honestly.
>Obsession with "Endgame"
>Obsession with currency per hour efficiency
>Obsession with movement speed

>>717190991
The moment they revealed trigger gems were coming to PoE 2 I knew deep down it was doomed. I stayed in denial for a few weeks into the EA launch but man...

>>717190817
poe2 end game is the same shit, only the campaign is different (but 1's campaign wasn't zoom either)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WUTomqJyVo

>>717190983
Its irrelevant to say anything is "broken"
Is the game FUN?
Is the progression FUN?

PoE 2 its not. Combat is also not fun. PoE 1 is the perfect game except outdated graphics

>>717164864 (OP)
Buy an ad, jonatroon

>>717191120
>rng gem slots
Pass.

>>717189027
>small in deptv analysis
>longer than a short novel
kek, based dude miss this sincerity in general people aren’t passionate anymore

i don't play chinese games

>>717191056
>Obsession with "Endgame
what else are you supposed to do when you've beaten the game on every character, difficulty, hardcore, and done every in-game challenge, by end of week 2?

>>717191282
Play other games?

>>717191282
>what else are you supposed to do when you've beaten the game
Maybe touch grass and have sex? D2 is the best game ever made and it has no endgame.

>>717189345
Fair enough. What is the second best then?

>>717164864 (OP)
Is act 3 still slowed down to a crawl where every trash mob is nothing but a damage sponge that gets hit by a wet noodle?

>>717191282
Quit, massage your balls, & moan:
>"Ahhh, now that was a good game"

Played PoE2
Gave feedback in the private 'special supporter only' chats
told them 'start of 0.1 was most popular because it was most souls like'
told them to keep slowing the game down and make it even more souls like
They said 'thank you for the feedback'
:)

I just want the other three acts added so I don't have to suffer through 1-3 twice every time I make a new character.

>>717165020
>you're going to get 0.10 after 0.90

>>717191480
Nice bait attempt but I actually agree with you, Id rather they try and keep the game slow.

>>717191536
Versions don't work like that retard. It's not a decimal. You could have 0.13.5b if you wanted.

>>717191536
How do you use computers long enough to arrive on 4chan but not understand that version numbers aren't decimals?

>>717191282
'new character' is the natural answer to these kinds of games
it's how ruthless and SSF players do it who don't just farm a slot machine and buy the power they need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5X5BuqPIYQ
Bored? Got a good unique item? Just make a new character. This guy has made like 10 characters all around niche unique combos this league
Ruthless and SSF PoE have fixes for issues Trade league can't solve. Sadly they're too grindy.

>>717164953
This is what killed my interest in poe2. I liked the first release, then came dawn of the hunt and I realized it was over, they're just making poe1 again.

>>717191069
The game was always planned to turn out like PoE1 eventually though. Players already broke the game in 0.1 that's why they laid down the Expedition League-tier nerfhammer so soon in 0.2. Once they start stacking new league mechanics it's going to be another powercreep clownfiesta on a regular basis

>>717191926
And yet I bet you love poe1.

>>717191964
Expedition league was my favorite league since Beyond.
They should have nerfed PoE 2 more in 0.2.

>>717192048
No I stopped playing that years ago, it got worse with every update adding more and more shit just to add something instead of thinking things through and making high quality additions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEB8_gEeSrg
peak poe1

PoE2 is faster than pre 2017 PoE1

>>717192258
https://youtu.be/stFoRJCCfTU
I wish we could go back.

One of the biggest FU's from GGG to the PoE 1 core audience (PoE 2 is a hateletter) was how muted the music it
In PoE 1 its very in your face. In PoE 2 they made it way more ambient, really good job there Jonathan

>>717191406
>D2 is the best game ever made and it has no endgame.
yes it does, it's a really long ass game to clear 'everything' and then there's ultra rare loot to grind

>>717189027
This is basically just a list of complaints that makes the game 'not dark souls'
This guy's entire opinion hinges on the idea that dark souls has perfect design philosophy and any divergence from that is bad and ggg should change it.

>>717193285
>make a game that's 2 hours long
>introduce a useless item with a droprate that it takes 5000+ hours to obtain
>bam, endgame

>>717193596
Ye PoE fixed the D2 problem of a shit endgame
Look up all the prominent D2 youtube creators. Its all leveling shit. Nobody actually plays D2 endgame

>>717164864 (OP)
i'll play it when it's free

Path of Exile and its consequences have been a disaster for ARPG endgames.
What ARPGs even have endgames with actual structure and real character progression (not just finding random items) in endgame besides Median XL? Is le random maps with random loot really the best ARPGs will ever do?

>>717193562
Not really, the start is about how it poorly apes Souls animation/boss design but it mentions DMC, Roguelikes and DOOM, basically saying that the ideal analysis of the game is topdown DOOM in a Roguelike system that has the benefits of handcrafted RPG content, but that it doesn't learn from any of those.

>just bought PoE2 from a secondhand cdkey site for cheap because I just assumed it would have to come with the 300 coins
>it doesn't

>>717194918
How much did you pay? I have spare keys I could have just given you one for free lmao.

>>717195143
$15. I'll live, but I shouldve done more research first.
Id ask for a key anyway for my friend but itd just be snatched up before he can use it.

>>717193562
wrong

>>717194918
I think the more expensive supporter packs got additional keys they could give out but those obviously dont come with store credit
You need to specifically buy a "suporter pack" to get the credit

>>717190782
What lessons from doom2 and elder ring is he even talking about? Elden ring was dogshit

>>717195358
>Elden ring was dogshit
Finally someone said it. Really getting tired of all the glazing from the asmongold types

>>717191056
The campaign isn't even good. You could have a good narrative, explorable world in an argument with an end game but poe2 has neither

>>717195358
theres a detailed breakdown of elden ring ai and animation systems that PoE lacks in turn making poe2 bossess insanely weak and gimmicky-er

>>717195774
Elden ring has input reading. Its' ai is nothing to emulate retard. The entire concept of screens full of mobs having diverging AI would be a complete clusterfuck, both for performance, and for the ability for the player to interact meaningfully. This guys ideas are fucking trash

>>717195358
>doom 2
overall methodology of enemy design, packs and level design that poe2 lacks, even though poe2 is surprisingly close to doom in how it structures mob combat.
>roguelikes
D1 was inspired by roguelikes and integrated rng story and quests and secrets. Somehow, PoE2 actually ends up having more primitive randomization and prebuilt content than D1

>>717194053
devil may cry is a fucking "x to jason" quicktime game. It has nothing to emulate

>>717195993
no its correct, elden ring mobs chain their attacks and smoothly transition between animations and can turn while attacking and have clear animation timings
poe2 bossess dont and are also not animated to well enough for tells from a rotating top down perspective
read nigga read

>>717196076
>>devil may cry is a fucking "x to jason" quicktime game
what

>>717196076
There's plenty. DMC is one of the most 'divergent' Action games regarding design, even though it was the first.

>>717191406
Ubers?

>>717196574
nevermind, was confusing it with stellar blade

>>717196663
DMC is just asian combo slop. It has no visual distinctiveness or variety in its' combat. its just a bunch of flashy sword slashes all the time. What lessons would you be talking about? just encounter design? Poe2 is much slower

>>717197037
>asian combo slop?
The fuck does this even mean

>>717197192
That it's combo slop from Asia.

>>717197192
It means the combat is only difficult against your previous high score. Bosses are highly stationary, with low danger to their movesets, and you just mash buttons with a autolocked targeting reticle to make cool jumpy animations happen

>>717164864 (OP)
ill play other arpgs and poe1 while they figure out what they wanna do with poe2

>>717164864 (OP)
Not touching it until 1.0, but it seems like a fun and good-ish game already so I'm hopeful. My thanks to all you beta testers.

>>717189203
Is titty quest 2 an actually good game, /v/? Is it good enough to give up my hard earned $24 dollarlydoos for it? Will it have online play eventually?

>>717196172
>rotating top down
Poe2 has no rotation retard. You are always looking at the boss in the correct direction. The guys complaints are nonsense and boil down to his preference for beat em ups, not arpgs

>>717200625
the models rotate
if an enemy is swinging his sword from top to bottom, it's an entirely different perspective if you are left, right, up or down relative to the boss
Dark Souls doesn't have this issue because it has over the shoulder camera + lock on, so animations are always from a forward facing perspective
learn2read

>>717164864 (OP)
This is the only game i ever felt bad to pay money for.
Played all major AARPG of the past 20+ years and was excited about the game their trailers advertised.
Turned out its literally Ruthless with fucked up itemization, defensive stats, passive tree, ascendancies, skills and mapping. Oh, and Roll slop.
The only moments when i had satisfaction were those Divine Orbs drops.
But all the hours in campaign, mapping? Combat itself? Character building? Not a single fucking time it felt like fun. The game was fucking designed and tuned to fuck you in the ass. Also loot aspect of ARPG was murdered in favor of RMT shit.
Fuck Poop2, probably the worst ARPG i have ever played despite looking great visually.

All of the classes outside the Monk in PoE2 are bad, as in not fun and not worth playing viable or not.

Play PoE2 for Monk if you haven't, do the Acts, then uninstall.

>>717201650
Unless you are standing behind the boss? The fuck are you even talking about

>>717204123
read the text
it talks about how this limits the complexity of boss combos, which it does, poe2 bosses don't combo their attacks well if at all. you need to see an enemy's swing to be able to perfectly dodge it with timing, you can't do this due to perspective, leading to bosses having basic melee and instead all of them relying on projectile attacks, which poe2 bosses all do.

>>717204813
And? Why is that a problem? All top down games would have this issue. Just because they choose bullet hell type boss encounters doesn't make that a downside. That's a clear statement of a preference. In order to incorporate melee combo attacks, they'd have to give the player a more 3rd person perspective, and allow them to dodge quicker and more succinctly.

People may "like" that style of game, running underneath the bosses legs, or dodging through a sword strike, but it doesn't follow that that style is superior. I personally, do not like lock-on combat or dealing with boss "combos", and dodging through hits, or under their feet. It presents its' own problems - that of hackneyed tropes of the slow lumbering boss, or some sort of punching match.

I LIKE poe style bossing

i did like it when it came out, it obviously needed work and was an early access thing, but why the hell have they still not added even swords in yet? what are they even doing

>>717205679
There's other stuff, like bosses not moving much during sword swings, not being able to turn or not transitioning between attacks well. Geonor's sword ends up being the one thing that he never hurts you with, anyone with a minimum of 6 fingers across their two hands can attest to how easy most of that fight is. If you have experience with both Action Games (can beat the black knight at the start of Dark Souls 1) and PoE (so you know what good items/stats are) PoE2 is 2ez and never gets good.
I haven't a gander as to how during 0.1 GGG was convinced by the streamers that PoE2 is hard, because when I played recently in 0.2, every single boss went down in less than 45 seconds with 0 skill on my part which is insane.

>>717206425
>bosses not moving during swings
presupposes that the player is able to dodge under the boss, which we already no is not possible because this isn't a game where we are thematically attacking titans. Also he asserts that the wolf boss can't move while attacking, but this isn't true. It's radial slash can follow the player last second
>black knight
Poe2 is not designed to be a tic tac toe match with a singular enemy. Expecting that kind of counter design is asinine. You soulsfags need to move on

>>717164864 (OP)
i have to wait a month for this kino to arrive fuck this world

>dark souls black knight is the pinnacle
>kite to an open area
>bait out a long wind up attack
>walk around the enemies back
>backstab
>glitch the enemy ai out on a ledge
>repeat
Yeah, poe2 should definitely become a low magic jank melee only game, soulsfags are so right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCu6qOrTaX8

>>717174643
sounds like you can't make a build for shit

>>717189689
GGG truly have amazing programmers

>>717206912
>>dark souls black knight is the pinnacle
Im using it as an example of skill, because it's the easiest miniboss in the game. Every boss in PoE2 is easy if you can kill the DaS1 BK.
The DaS1 one, not the DaS3 one or the ER Crucible Knight, which if you can kill you can play through all of PoE2 with no effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgcXHC7A_I

>>717206734
>>>/vt/ranny

>>717187831
>Reminder that literally nobody wants a boring 40 hour campaign in their ARPG
I do
>umm actually the campaign NEEDS to be a TUTORIAL to the ENDGAME which is where all the REAL CONTENT is...but also its a tutorial im forced to play through every time I want to want to get to any of that REAL CONTENT, for some reason, so id prefer if it was as easy and meaningless as possible
video games should not have an "endgame". Either make a single player arpg campaign or make skinnerbox mapslop for retards that they can access from minute 1 of starting the game.

>>717206686
They move between swings but not during, look closer. Draven also moves between swings in his 4 hit combo but not during it, none of the mobs in PoE2 do, most noticeable on the A2 bosses

>>717205679
>>I LIKE poe style bossing
There's only one actual challenging part of PoE bossing and it's
>maven no regen lasers phase memory game
>searing exarch ball dodging
everything else is essentially ignoreable since 3.0 power creep

>>717207332
you messed up the search function retard

>>717207352
Ok and? So it's exactly like dark souls then. Show me in that knight video where the animations dynamically change and aren't just locked in for the duration. You are full of shit

Just rename 0.3 to 1.0 so I can feel like it fully released.

>>717210786
but they'd have to make it f2p if they did that.

>>717189689
Remember what they took from you

>>717164864 (OP)
I lost interest when the meta was like 5 times faster than the builds I wanted to do.

>>717200156
>Is titty quest 2 an actually good game, /v/?
It's got potential but none of TQ1's character outside the pretty visuals. No dyes, no titty bounce, no good music.
>Is it good enough to give up my hard earned $24 dollarydoos for it?
Not yet. Maybe after the first big early access update.
>Will it have online play eventually?
Seems like an intended feature, yes.

>>717211872
>titty bounce
character visual mods for this would be nice.

I got to the desert area with the giant statues in that underground place when poe2 came out and I quit because of how slow movement is. Did they add any extra movespeed or ways to traverse the map because clearing the fog on every map was so fucking slow

>>717164864 (OP)
Poop Of Excrement II