Thread 717168393

>Anonymous sources speaking to Bloomberg said it was the game's narrative, in particular, that apparently failed to impress, and was "identified as an area in need of improvement [that] will be revamped in the coming months".

So what are the chances we just lost a really good story because the execs "didn't get it"?

how the fuck is the fps 10 years in development?

>>717168393 (OP)
eh execs are alright sometimes. Depends on whos the writer. I bet it was some communist tranny analogy

>>717168483
>eh execs are alright sometimes.
Name one time

>>717168458
3 different dev teams that 2K has replaced

>>717168393 (OP)
why dont devs make a single vertical slice to impress the mouth breathers and then make a horizontal slice to actually test the game's structure? Probably get fewer cancelled games and laughingstock releases. Bare minimum the narrative and gameplay structure would get signed off on early so you can focus on making everything pretty with a finalized plan that doesn't need to be reset 6 times

>>717168675
Isn't that supposed to be the standard operating procedure for these devs?

>>717168393 (OP)
Zero
If it was so bad that even the suits didn't approve of it, it must have been literally the worst shit ever
Also based for cancelling remakeslop

>>717168483
The execs told them there weren't enough empowered black women and that the story was too much rooted in white hegemony

>>717168393 (OP)
Is it going to be another allegory for Jewishness like Bioshock 1 and Infinity? 2 didn't have it because the other team also didn't even realise it.

>>717168393 (OP)
You know shit's bad when they have to cancel the money-grubbing remake project.

>>717168846
Based execs fighting for the impoverished

let me guess its stuck in unreal engine dev hell

>>717168504
Anthem's flying mechanic. Fallen Order's Cal Kestis. Lords of the Fallen's creative pivot. Scrapping Hyenas last minute. Course correcting and firing tens of thousands of people responsible and complicit in ruining gaming.

>>717168393 (OP)
oh man I wonder good or bad it was.

>>717168846
That kind of thing usually comes from the devs
Execs are generally a little more sensitive to market demands and do not like putting out things that could be seen as controversial since it's bad for the brand

>>717168768
apparently the standard operating procedure is to halfbake a scenario, build an entire game in vertical slice, and trash everything a half-dozen times and hope by the end that whatever assets you've made can carry whatever cockamamie linear shooter they've forced you to reduce your previous work to (see Bioshock Infinite)
that or build an open world without enough writing to support it

>>717168846
So business as usual, then. Gotta make sure the story checks all the right boxes on the Diversity Bingo card before they even think about gameplay. Maybe next they'll add a nonbinary AI mentee that lectures you on colonialism mid-cutscene while you're trying to shoot mutants.

>>717168393 (OP)
Guaranteed it was shit.
Only Bioshock 1's story was passable, and that's because it was just Atlas Shrugged supplanted onto a relatively cool new setting.
2K waited way too long to milk the Bioshock brand and now they're suffering for it.
Good shit, I say.

>>717169534
Look at Microsoft's output when there's *no* exec interference.

>>717168953
>Course correcting and firing tens of thousands of people responsible and complicit in ruining gaming.
You say that as if that was the actual reason for the mass layoffs.

>>717169609
Mass layoffs were due to getting rid of DEI woke lefty Commies.

Games (and movies now) have been healing ever since.

>>717169534
DA: Veilguard is what you get with the unfettered creativity of today's devs. They need heavy oversight, even more so than in the past.

>>717169836
Yeah I'm sure EA didn't interfere at all with DA: Veilguard, totally.
Meanwhile Expedition 33 is a game that really didn't have any exec oversight.

>>717169741
It's not. The majority of devs overhired and bloated their own projects during the covid period. The more useless jobs getting culled is just the natural process of mass layoffs, the higher ups didn't target specifically that crowd and I'm sure there are still some of them in each studio pushing the same shit agenda.

>>717168483
not at 2k they're not

>>717169940
It's a well known fact EA was VERY hands off. Even non-chuds like Schreier have confirmed that

>>717170067
Post Schreier saying that, should be easy.

How the fuck would bioshock 4 even work?
Rapture is fucked, columbia is fucked
You gonna tell me there is a new secret land?

>>717170101
Geoshock

>>717170101
They did 1960s underwater, 1910s in the air. I would be down for the Napoleonic Era on the Moon or something.

Alphas usually don’t focus on the story bro. It was likely the setting that pissed them off, I wonder if it means it will be sea or sky this time

>>717170329
>napoleonic battles on the surface of the moon, complete with period-accurate weaponry

What is the story going to be? After Bioshock Infinite were they turned it into a multiverse where every lighthouse is just one of an infinite amount of possible worlds how can the story be anything other than just playing in one of the infinite possible worlds?

>>717169967
>overhired and bloated their own projects
Yes, with DEI woke lefty Commies.

I'm sure there still are, in hiding, but what they cry about no longer matters. Massive losses in revenue matters.

World is done pandering to retards.

>>717170101
New city in Antarctica apparently.

>>717170289
>>717170329
From the Earth to the Moon
I wanna see some of that old timey tech up there

>>717170101
Its jon carpenters "the thing" set un a secret article city.
Instead of plasmid you use alien DNA like in prey.

>>717170595
Unironically, this is what was leaked a few years ago.
Guess they couldn't make it work lol.

>>717170595
>>717170721
>>717170730
>alien the thing shit in a remote colony/base on antartica
Could be cool, but they should make the powers melee, or atleast a bunch of them
Grow a giant lobster pincer and crush someones head with it

>>717170089
>>717170067
Still waiting

It's fucking insane that they literally let this happen twice. Under Ken Levine, the king of retards, BioShock infinite happended. You have to imagine, they worked on a game, and then after multiple years of development, one of the higher-ups came in and said "show me the game". And they couldn't. They could show a few parts of a game, but they couldn't actually show a whole game or any playable long-term gameplay. What they did was that they had to send in a closer that patched together a game out of the content in 6 months.
I have no fucking idea why they allowed the same shit to happen again.
For example, one developer working on it stated they made enough content for three games. But Ken Levine constantly changed his plans. So, they created a whole fucking area for the game because Ken Levine wanted that. And then because Ken Levine changed a part of the setting, they couldn't use it anymore. This motherfucker threw out money by the millions. Then, of course, the whole fiasco with the 2013 fake E3 demo, where they showcased something that was entirely impossible. They worked for months on a demo that just really looked nice that was literally impossible to be played on the current-gen consoles. The entire demo was scripted. The AI was basically impossible. Everything around this was entirely impossible to do with the AI, with the scripting, with the consoles. Yet they actually showcased that at the E3. How the actual fuck that they allowed this to happen again?? THE SAME FRANCHISE, ONE GAME AFTER THAT.
Btw kens game is in development for 10 years now or smt like that

Never forget that (((Ken Levine))) shuttered his entire studio after Infinite because he knew he wasn't going to retain the rights to Bioshock and kicked a few hundred of his own staff onto the streets to make sure no one did Bioshock better than him.

>>717168393 (OP)
Did I miss Bioshock 3? Was Infinite supposed to be Bioshock 3? Why not call it Bioshock 3: Infinite, then?
Fuck you Ken Levine

>>717168393 (OP)
>Bioshock remake canceled
Am I still drunk or didn't that already happen? Or was that just some "enhanced" version?

>>717168393 (OP)
I hate suits so much it’s unreal

>>717173420
You're probably mixing up thoughts about Bioshock Remastered and the Dead Space Remake.

>>717168393 (OP)
>revamp a game that was in development for 10 years in a couple months
What can even be changed?

>>717168393 (OP)
The only Bioshock that worked was 1.
Infinite was hampered down by really retarded writing and the most unimaginative "X but in Y" premise.
There's a reason the only thing people remember is Elizabeth's vast troves of porn.

I legit have no idea if this means the story was too pro-isreal or not pro-isreal enough.

>>717168393 (OP)
>it was the game's narrative, in particular, that apparently failed to impress, and was "identified as an area in need of improvement [that] will be revamped in the coming months".
This is bullshit for "The game had inklings of being based, so we need more time to make it more GAY".

>>717175079
Not true, I remember not being able to fight Songbird, the twist I saw coming 4 hours before it happened and 1999 mode being strictly the opposite of what Ken Levine said it was. He will pay dearly for the last one inshallah.

>>717175169
Pretty much, we won't know until the game comes out if the original pitched story was good or woke.

>>717175079
>Infinite was hampered down by really retarded writing and the most unimaginative "X but in Y" premise.
It also had some of the worst gameplay I've experienced in a modern FPS. The sponginess of everything was fucking absurd.

>>717175516
>1999 Mode was originally meant to emulate the feel of older shooter games. Players would have to choose a "class" for Booker, such as Heavy or Long-Ranged, each with its strengths and weaknesses. Players would also have to make permanent choices that would have irreversible consequences — for example, Gears, called Nostrums at the time, would not have been removable or replaceable. This was changed when the Gear limit was shrunk down to four and they became randomized on each playthrough. In the finalized version of the game, 1999 Mode is simply an extra-hard mode with no drastic changes to the core gameplay.
Lmao

>>717176106
Also by extra-hard they actually mean you get less ammo and the enemies get more health

>>717168393 (OP)
If it's anything like Infinite's story, they're absolutely justified. Levine is a fucking hack.

>>717177098
Levine is making Judas, a game that I promise you will never come out.

>>717177163
Judas would never betray my expectations