Thread 717180282

Why are some people mad that we get a different ending? Why do you wish for the game to end up the same as the original? How can you justify experiencing the same thing twice? I'm honestly fine with no changes, but if they change some things, I'm still okay since it keeps me guessing for the next game. That doesn't mean all the things they added to the Remakes are good though.

>>717180282 (OP)
We wanted a faithful remake anon

I JUST SAVED YOU FROM SEPHIROTH

>Why do you wish for the game to end up the same as the original?
It's a remake of the original.

>>717180282 (OP)
>>717180346
>>717180595
It's a sequel, not a remake.

>>717180623
>Sequel
What?

>>717180623
Weird how this sequel seems to tell the same story 95% of the time.

I'm not mad it's different, I'm mad it's different in a shit way

>>717180595
Changing some important bits in the story does not hurt you. It adds to the experience.

Don't really care about changes, it's mostly kind of miserable to be playing this in chunks over a period of like 8 years or whenever the last part is out

>>717180808
I think being a 3-parter was one of the better decision they make. Having a game being talked in a period of 8 years has been a blessing for me.
The game won't do well for the story with the current fidelity level if it is released as a single game.

Rebirth was good, sales are bad unfrountately so I hope the final bit is good

My beautiful wife Aerith

>>717180483
>we will elect an actual human being as president

It's why I'm voting Trump 2028 for a 3rd term too.

And the 3rd game will be shit.

>>717180282 (OP)
dont care. it seems they are going towards an option to save aerith and that is good enough for me

>>717181405
Do you own her necklace?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305804151423

>>717180671
Yeah the time jannies are doing things

>>717180483
>SH2 demake
Of course a demake fan would like that shit

>>717180282 (OP)
because they don’t go the full way, if they want o me a sequel them make it and don’t be constantly trying to bait ff7 people into" LOOK IT JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL!!"

>>717180282 (OP)
I'm fine with them making it completely different. I don't call it shit because it's different, I call it shit because it's shit.
I notice the defenders never say why they think it's good, they just deflect by strawmanning anyone who calls it bad as a purist who hates change. It's like they know deep down it's garbage and that they have no arguments, so the only option is to insult anyone who criticizes it.

>>717181004
>Having a game being talked in a period of 8 years has been a blessing for me.
Why? Do you have nothing better to do for an entire decade?

>>717180282 (OP)
It's still basically the exact same ending so far, except for the pov we're seeing it from.
We're currently seeing part of it from Cloud's pov when she's killed, so we won't get the full brunt of her death until part 3 when Cloud has to cope with reality.

The thing that will most likely change is that he likely won't full blame himself by the end, so it won't directly lead into Depressed Mailman saga. It will be "happier" but still bittersweet.

Lost all interest in 7R when I realised the games are 95% the same as the game I played 20 years ago. Not interested in a rethread. They should have been braver and done something more different.

>>717182607
same

>>717180483
still makes me laugh

love my wife. cant wait to see what they do with her ghost in part 3

>>717182607
Out of curiosity, why? It was presented as if it was a Remake, since it was presented as such, why would it not being different enough make you lose interest?

Or did you pick it up after all the "it's a sequel" talk from internet places? Which would make sense being disappointed thinking it was actually 100% presented as a sequel.
People really upplay that part way too much. On a meta level, it's a "sequel", but it's really ultimately a slightly different way of handing the original story. Someone who never played the original never has to really know anything about the meta narrative.

>>717180282 (OP)
>different
you mean pure trash. no one asked for idiotic time ghosts flying around.
you may as well have put a bunch of clowns in the scene, honking their noses and throwing pies at Aerith.

>>717180282 (OP)
It wasn't even really any different, she still died, it's just they made it as fucking convoluted as absolutely possible, taking away the absolute heartache of the original. The original scene is perfect.

>>717180282 (OP)
I'm mad we got a different and the old ending at the same time. Two games into the trilogy, and these retard writers at SE can't seem to decide if they want a remake or a new story.

>>717183245
>why would it not being different enough make you lose interest?
Because I already played FF7 several times years ago and didn't want to play a "new" game that was 95% the same.

>>717183657
But it was literally marketed as a "Remake"
Why would you buy a remake, then be mad that it plays mostly like a remake?

>>717183414
they turned it into a joke.
-the horrible pacing, the trashy anime isms.
-the dilution of the scene to be about those retarded fucking ghosts and multiverse cringe until it's no longer about Aerith
-the removal of clouds speech & everything that came after
-cloud and the gang FUCKING QUIPPING AND MAKING JOKES in the Jenova fight, nano seconds after her "death".

I want to murder the square team. they are so fucking autistic and filled with multiverse/anime brainrot they are no longer humans. I want to fucking kill them.

>>717183840
I had heard they changed the story, and it turned out they didn't. It was 95% the same.
>Why would you buy a remake
Free on PS+, thankfully.

>>717184036
Gotcha, so it was all the internet talk from AFTER the game's release.
Now THAT makes sense. People played the "it's a sequel" stuff up far too much.

Inshallah we will save her in part 3

>>717183840
1. it's not a remake.
2. all the changes are objectively worse and the only merit this cheap cashgrab game has is in banking on nostalgia from the far superior original.

>>717184175
Yes, it was 95% the same, and that was disappointing.

>Flawless deep combat
>Great characters
>Great story
>Great art direction
>Great OST
>Waifus
>Good graphics
>Lots of content
>Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends
This is a 10/10 game

Tiffy!

>>717184229
It's 95% a remake, with a meta-narrative of it being a sequel.

>>717180757
>>717182065
And yet it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All they want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. You could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and they'd like it, because they get more time with the characters. At some point they became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.
Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is DoC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.

>>717184396
Yeah, pretty disappointing and boring. The "changes" are just pointless sequelbait for autists to discuss for years and then they turn out to not even matter anyway.

I do wonder if FF9R was cancelled, Zidane's design is clearly different

>>717184507
That's what happens when companies listen too much to fanboys. Either go full schizo or don't

>>717184507
Sure.
Was responding to the anon claiming it wasn't a remake.

It's not a different ending, what we've played so far is in cloud's mind when he's in the wheelchair he wakes up and it plays like the original.

>>717180282 (OP)
Its /v/. Never listen to what /v/ says. Always do the opposite of what /v/ does. If /v/ agrees with you, it is because you are wrong and need to fix yourself.

>>717184693
Eh, we haven't really seen anything to signify he's already in the wheelchair, but we're seeing bits of what leads him to that wheelchair.

>>717184563
no one has info on it

>>717184563
They should remake FF2 in full Amano style.>>717184678

>>717184307
I mean it's not the same. 95% is "copying" but it's all very badly done.
it's copied but without care and done much worse
-none of the areas are faithful, recognizable or follow the correct design, layout, colour theory, tone ect.
-all the NPCs are regular people, do not fit into the word and are devoid of charm
-the dialogue is sluggish and cringe with an infantile 'written for todlers' tone that has no place in 7R
-none of the events play out correctly, they all have changes for the worse e.g dynes death.
-the pacing is fucking abysmal.
-characters never shut the fuck up. there is no player agency, the game never lets you breath and explore yourself.

>>717184680
Don't worry, I know the last thing you'd ever want to do is criticize it.

>>717184563
I suspect it's still on the table.
They wouldn't want to announce it before 7R3 is out, the Tactics remake was JUST recently announced and that was part of the exact same leak where we heard about everything else included the 9 remake.

>>717184563
My theory is SE approached Memoria team for the remake, they saw it wasn't working so they cancelled it and dragged Memoria team with them, that's why Memoria has those schizo tweets
Capcom did something similar, he forced some fans to cancel their re2 fan remake because they were making it themselves, they did the same with code Veronica fan remake too so you know what that means

>>717184935
?
You're confusing me with another anon apparently. Wrong reply.

>>717184956
But they literally just announced Elliot and Octopath 0 game at the same fucking time
7r3 won't be out till 2027 at least. So I believe they were working on FFX remake too but that one only needs a graphics update like crisis Core

>>717185028
You WOULD criticize 7R? What don't you like about it?

>>717184386
They really put a lot of love in Tifa's animation

>>717184961
people need to start previewing their "fan remakes" anonymously so these companies have no one to send C&Ds to.
Don't reveal yourself until the game is finished and the company can't do anything.

>>717184898
>dynes death
They did Corel Prison dirty. Its supposed to be a guaranteed death sentence a den of the worst scum instead they are just weird...

>>717180346
Why? There's already a ff7.

>>717185060
>7r3 won't be out till 2027 at least.
Stop dooming for 5 minutes. They have the groundwork done already so the whole trilogy should be done by 2024. 2025 at the very latest.

>>717180282 (OP)
Can someone who's played the game give context for wtf happens in this webm?

>>717185121
anon, what are you actually going about?
Anon 1: This is not a remake.
Anon 2 (me): It is a remake.
Anon 3 (you): You just don't want to criticize it.

Are you still confused?

>>717185345
lol
lmao

>>717184507
Maybe it was to bait Aerithfags with the resurrection but they saw Tifa is way more popular

>>717184956
>I suspect it's still on the table.
Probably. That nate guy can't even get confirmation on his cancellation claim, which suggests his source is clueless too. Should be a simple yes or no answer.

>>717185362
I have correctly identified you as a poster who would never want to criticize remake. Feel free to prove me wrong but I think every reply will only prove me right.

>>717185362
It's that roastie larping as a fanboy to act as a victim next, ignore her

>>717185060
>But they literally just announced Elliot and Octopath 0 game at the same fucking time
Yes, but those aren't remakes of old titles.
Nobody is saying "absolutely nothing will be released until X releases".

>>717185481
But why do you hate the color blue?

>>717185525
I'm getting that at this point, yeah. It's weird.

>>717185525
Thank god we can talk to each other now and I don't have to criticize remake. In a way I'm proving her right but so it goes.

>>717185630
>>717185481
Hey I was right!

>>717185682
Anon, people have criticized 7R plenty.
People are making fun of you for getting completely confused by the conversation and going on unrelated tangents.

>>717185628
Isn't the idea that Cloud is in full denial about what happened?

>>717180623
FF7 should have less of those, not more

>>717185191
the did everything dirty. rigth form the start.
-no first steps into the world and trip to kalm. cutscene warps you right there.
-Kalm is not even calm, instead it's fucking trashy and cringe.
-TIfa and Aerith are insufferable anime cringe the whole game.
-Ruined the scene of the impaled Zolom
-pracilla is censored, doesn't get attacked, no CPR
-clouds "disguise" in junon fully shows his fucking face and the turks have a total IQ of "2" not to notice.
-the cargo ship is a trashy cruise ship with more of the worst fucking anime attempts at "humour"

I could go on.

>>717185814
>people have criticized 7R plenty.
I know, but you're unwilling to. That's what I said and so far it seems to be true.

>NO I DON'T CARE. THE VOICE ACTRESS SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR 3 GAMES IN A MAIN CHARACTER ROLE.
>>But she's dead! It would be unfaithful to the original sto-
>WRITE HER BACK IN.
>>this is going to be a disaster...

>you're all made of brocolli
>what are you talking about? we were talking about organ disorders
>ha, you proved me right!
/v/ has so many damned schizos these days

>>717185628
>what if we remade FF7 but it was equally bad and good?

>>717185919
>This is what happens when women hit 30 and are childless and single

>717185919
and you're unwilling to explain why you hate the color blue.
keep proving me right, you'll keep doing so

>>717185628
schrodinger's poopy pants

>>717185947
It's just funny because all he has to do is post something like "I don't like the low quality NPCs" or something and boom, he wins and I lose. But like I said he's unwilling to criticize the games in any way.

>>717185191
>Dyne death
What was up with his phase 2 being somekind of Resident Evil shit?

>>717186015
Wait, is this the crazy over-the-top clerith lady? Or a different roastie I wasn't aware of?

>>717186031
I don't hate the colour blue. I think it looks beautiful.
Wow, that was easy. I just did what you are unable to do. I guess my assumption of you was correct and your assumption of me was wrong.

>>717185648
>only 0.2% of the game with fuckloads of missing content and a 99.9% incorrect scenario set.
So this was the "remake" as square claim? pretty fucking shit then.

They made another game after this called "rebirth" but it has no relation because otherwise it would also say "remake".

>he wins
>i lose
What do you call this mental illness that least to this thinking?

>>717186116
According to some anons it's some old fujo obsessed with smtv and who used to seethe a lot in Persona 5 threads

>>717186164
just what I thought, you REFUSE to explain why you hate the color blue!
keep proving me right ha

>>717186195
>>717185481

>>717186031
>>717186164
Modern Square obviously hates the colour blue. I know that much.
they sure like grey and brown tho.

>>717186179
Kitase and Nomura jerking each other off. Sakaguchi would never

>>717186281
What's fucking hilarious is that the roastie is too confused the point you're making here, and will keep having some imaginary conversation that nobody was having as evidence for whatever

>>717186281
>you REFUSE to explain why you hate the color blue!
I explained otherwise, and you chose to ignore it.
You however are unwilling to criticize 7R in any way.

Damn this is an emotional scene

>QUICK, DON'T LET IT BREATHE FOR TOO LONG, BREAKDANCING ROBOT. THROW IN SEPHIROTH SO AUDIENCE DOESN'T FALL ASLEEP

ESTUANS INTERIUS IRA VEHEMENTI
ESTUANS INTERIUS IRA VEHEMENTI
SEPHIROTH!
SEPHIROTH!

>>717180282 (OP)
People wanted a remake, not a sequel, and certainly not a loop sequel.

>>717186195
Premenopause. Just see how miserable old women can be with the whole tea app drama

>>717186383
Incidentally if part 3 WAS literally just an video file of Kitase and Nomura jerking each other off..
the retarded shit eating fans here would still say it was the best game ever made 10/10.

>>717180623
>>717180671
Same as Gunstar Future/Super Heroes or Rebuild of Evangelion.

>>717186420
You however are unwilling to explain why you hate the color blue in any way
Keep proving me right

>>717186407
Meanwhile we'll just continue to talk about a persona fujo

>>717183919
Having to actually fight Sephiroth was the worst part of it for me. The whole ghost shit too. Instead of letting Aerith's death add motivation to the player and their quest to kill Sephiroth, they'll have her popping up randomly and saying stupid shit to Cloud in the third game. I actually did enjoy Rebirth, but that ending was just fucking ridiculous, not to mention there being literally no good reason for having the whole Zack plotline.

I want Rufus to rape me

>>717186613
>Marlene: teehee! She is cucking you!
Wtf was that scene lmao

>>717186575
>>717186164
Man I figured I was right about you but I didn't know I would be THIS right.
A full on samefag melty just because I knew you'd never criticize remake.
Don't worry anon it's nothing to be ashamed of. Many others have criticized the games but you wouldn't. Be proud of that.
I'm glad you chose blue, by the way. It's literally my favourite colour. I think it's a big part of what makes FFX such a great looking game.

>>717186897
Man, I knew I was right, but I didn't realize I would be THIS right
God damn

>>717186407
i know right?

Menopause is an ugly thing

>>717186613
>hey boss do you think this persons death scene would be undermined if we have one of her infinite disposable timeline clones walk through a portal and be like "hey I'm back" in the next scene?
>I can see literally no problem with this.

>>717186975
>>717185481

>>717187084
I never even thought that them having a Aerith from another timeline just appear half way through the third game is possible. They're going to fucking do it, aren't they?

>>717184774
I agree, anon.

>>717187075
Eh, I got a good laugh. Poking schizos is funny

>>717187347
It's more than likely not actually another timeline.
They've been dropping hints throughout Rebirth regarding Lifestream not truly differentiating people's "hopes and desires" manifesting and actual reality.
It's seeming more and more likely that it's Lifestream shenanigans.

>>717187470
Either way, they'll just fucking bring her back.

>>717184410
Have people finally realised that replying to this with "yes that's true" is not the best way to refute it?

if they dont use the timey wimey stuff to bring our wife back we riot

Transjeet subhuman marketer thread

>>717187347
well they already did it with the aerith in the sephiroth fight and with zack so yeah they'll do it again.

part 1 & part 2 were a level of stupidity worse than I could have even thought of. I tried to think of the worst pile of shit ever for part 2 and what they released still amazed me with how bad it was. so I'm sure part 3 will be the same as 1 & 2.
horrible and idiotic on a level, beyond parody, that we can not even imagine.

>>717180346
Anytime that happens, people just bitch and moan and say that you can just play the original instead. There is no winning with you fags.

>>717187630
More than likely not. She's "back" in the same way she was back in Advent Children and the very end of OG 7. In the Lifestream, still dead.

What a lot of us are predicting is that she can finally rest after what happens in 7R3 instead of forcing himself to manifest in the Lifestream to oppose Sephiroth. She's been wanting to truly return to the Lifestream for a long time.

>>717180623
If it's a sequel, why they pretend to tell the same story? They should have changed it, like it has hinted at the end of Remake, so no more Aerith death at all.

>>717184185
Playing vidya it's haram.

>>717187886
NTA, but because it's ultimately both.
It's a remake of the OG story with some changes, but on a meta-level it's a sequel (but that ultimately doesn't matter for the overall story and you don't need to understand that if this is your first play of a 7 game, it's just the framework to tell that story)
It's done horribly sloppy, and it's questionable whether it's succeeding, but that's what it's trying to be.

>>717180282 (OP)
no matter all the smoke and mirrors or talk suggesting otherwise, at the end of the day gamers as a demographic DO want the same thing over and over again.

>>717185946
This doesn't mean anything, if they make a Flashback cinematics in the third part. They need the VA for that, like in Rebirth you see flashback about the Barret Avalance cell, but the guys are all death.

>>717187712
Based I want a happy ending

>>717187815
>Anytime that happens
false.
I didn't have any complaints about the OOT remake.
or Mario RPG really.
any complaints I could have of other faithful remakes like NST are nothing compared to 7R. it's the worst most disappointing pile of shit ever made

and best of all when the remake is actually faithful. it doesn't fuck up the google search like 7R does.
you search for FF7 info, guides, ect you get incorrect information and shit from 7R now.

>>717187470
Nojima soft confirmed it with his whole collective unconscious hint. None of it is real.

>>717188231
The happy ending is that she finally gets to rest, most likely, instead of being forced to maintain herself within the lifestream to oppose sephiroth

And she gets a final goodbye so Cloud doesn't end things on him blaming himself for what happened to her.

>>717188356
Oh, I'm not familiar on what Nojima said. I'll need to look up what that's all about

>>717184935
He sure proved you right. And a kindly stranger showed up to help out, too.
>>717187876
Kitase is already talking about FF7 continuing beyond part 3, and Nomura has spoken about Cloud and Sephiroth's battle as "eternal" so I wouldn't be too confident about part 3 being a finale that closes the door on anything.

>>717188051
>It's a remake of the OG story with some changes
there are way too many "changes" in every single sceneario. for it to be considered the same story.
It has the similar names of characters and locations, but they don't look or act the same, they are only introduced in a similar order.. but that's where the similarities end.

right from the start the reactor bombing is retconned to be shinra, all the dialogue and events are wrong (and much slower) sephiroth shows up, Aerith is a manipulative time travling cunt who lies the whole game. it's just a trainwreck.

I still havent played the original for some reason. Might spin it up right before part 3 releases

>>717180282 (OP)
Redditbirth Ubislop flopped
Final Fantasy was never meant to be Kingdom shartz

>>717180282 (OP)
It's the same story except they turned the dial way too far up on everything because they seek to confuse the shit out of you and have you arguing about whether she died or not until part 3 comes out

If you don't understand the whole meta sequel remake thing, you're chaos.

>>717188615
95% of it is the same story. It's largely the same story.

>>717188949
name a scenario that plays out "the same" then.

>>717189038
...the entire main scenario. With some changes.
Like was said.

This isn't roasty talk, is it?

Mt corel climb to gold saucer was one of the greatest gaming moments of all time. Very well made sequence.

>>717189138
>This isn't roasty talk, is it?
Let's say it is. It's a great way to wriggle out of a corner during a discussion.
She's probably infertile too and loves bad games.

>>717185225
fans wanted to re-experience the game in modern graphics ever since the PS3 tech demo dropped

>>717189138
It's the roasty.
They're literally mentally ill.

I will be back to laugh at balding purist millennials when they change the story in part 3 and bring aerith back

>>717189617
Will you also be laughing if they don't?

>>717189617
they cannot bring her back or the CloTis will go apeshit and ask for a mass-strike on buying and SE is already deep into near-bankrupcy.

>>717189138
>the entire main scenario
the orginal game doesn't have time travel or time ghosts, or multiverses or sephiroth in midgar or any of the garbage padding and bloat.
not even remotely "the same" you dumb tranny.

try again. pick a specific scenario.

>>717190117
The main scenario. For 95% of it.
You seem to be getting confused over the 5% of it, totally not the roasty poster.

>>717189692
What if they do bring her back but also don’t?

>>717190713
it's not 5% inaccurate. it's 95%
name a part of a chapter that plays out the same and stop being too cowardly to get into specifics.
there is way more inaccurate and barely any accurate.

>>717189816
Tifa fans are already on strike from buying, the only Tifa merch on its second wave release is her theme music box and OG design figure

>>717191143
Okay

>>717184386
cute!

>>717182065
>I don't call it shit because it's different, I call it shit because it's shit
Based.

>>717191143
>too cowardly
Anon, what the ever living fuck are you gong on about?
You're 100% the roasty poster.

>>717188365
But I want a real happy ending where Aerith and Zack get to live with cloud and the gang happy

>>717191393
nah man I'm barry... or some other boogie man.
now pick a fucking scene you little bitch.

>>717191304
There are some changes I really liked, but there are shit changes too. And when I mention them I get the same stock "UR A PURIST" replies. Curiously, these non purists never can tell us why they like the changes, only that anyone who dislikes them is a purist and wrong.

>>717191529
sent :^)

>>717188365
>The happy ending is

>>717181527
>for a 3rd term
Trump niggers don't even know the basics of the US constitution...

>>717191559
>There are some changes I really liked
Such as?

>>717191393
Yup. They just confirmed they're the roasty.
What the hell is it with Final Fantasy drawing in so many goddamn schizos? I dont' get it.

>>717188942
Understanding something doesn't make it good. Understanding it is how I know it's garbage.

>>717191635
I win then. you can't even find one scene that is "the same".

>>717192172
>ignored my proof I just sent that made me win
:^(

kek

I just want a spin off with Rufus

>>717191834
I'm just saying fuck you I'm tired of babysitting your stupid ass and explaining basic meta bullshit "science" and story crap. It's a sequel. Get over it.

>>717191487
>cucktis now pretend Zaaa-ACK is even a real character / not a cheap plot device came back from recycle bin at the last month of 1996 and think that can even hide how they really felt.

>>717189617
It's Japan, they will save Sephiroth and let Aerith rot instead

>>717180282 (OP)
Only good thing about the remakes is the Aerith porn.

>a cheap plot device came back from recycle bin at the last month of 1996
>>717192537

>>717192537
Me want FF7 characters to live in harmony

>>717192537
>This roastie is really stalking other roasties in Tumblr

>>717180623
A sequel, huh?

>>717192537
I literally dont' understand whatever the fuck you're saying in your post
The fuck? "Zaaa-ACK"?

>>717192962
She is some old Aerith shipper seething at Zack and Tifa, someone posted her reddit account once and she was really mentally ill

>>717192959
Good webm actually. Pretty much the exact same idea, but they're a bit more scared to diverge in the 7R stuff.
Both a remake and a meta sequel, just to largely tell the same story (but a more likely closed ending)

>>717193107
They really should have made it some 7-2 with new story instead desu, even if it was a shit one it's better something new than the same story told in a worse way and during 10 fucking years

>>717180282 (OP)
Because that's not the game people wanted to buy. Obviously you and Square failed to account for that.

>>717180282 (OP)
>Why do you wish for the game to end up the same as the original?
Because I wanted a remake, not tranny fanfiction

>>717192537
speaking of late additions there's someone noticeably absent from this dev sketch...

>>717193107
>Good webm actually.

>>717192537
Nta but why should Zack stay dead? He was a cool guy

>>717193446
ESL?

>>717193445
>Vincent was our bro
Kek
Also when I was a kid I thought Tifa and Vincent were siblings
>Dark, long hair
>Red eyes

>>717180282 (OP)
PS1 FF7 was eerie, why can't they recreate the same feeling?

>>717193623
I still have it in my head (though it obviously is wrong) that Vincent is the real father of Sephiroth, and not Hojo
Just look at them

>>717193597
Technically, it should have been:
>Good webm, actually.

>>717193710
the same reason they didn't do it in ac, cc, doc, or any media that included FF7 characters like KH. They don't want to remember the game like that so they do everything in their power to make fans ignore it was ever like that

>>717180282 (OP)
>I saved her
this kills the remake hater

>>717193445
Wait so tifa was the original heroine?

>>717180282 (OP)
I don't like the changes because the changes are bad. I wouldn't mind the changes if they were good.

>>717193445
you cultureless subhumans atrracted by an eroge character knockoff can't really read right?

>>717194031
>Eroge
Both Tifa and 2B were based in someone's horny and a nip being horny is when they create ART, that's why Japan stories are so popular

>>717193810
>A comma is often used before "actually" when it's used to introduce a contrasting idea or to modify the entire sentence, similar to an introductory word or phrase. If it's simply part of the flow of conversation, a comma may not be necessary.

Technically, incorrect.

>>717193623
Yeah it's clearly a leftover from early development

>REMAKES ARE SHIT!!!!!! DON'T MAKE REMAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Okay.
>NOOOOOOO WE ACTUALLY WANTED YOU TO REMAKE FF7!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every fucking thread.

i saved my wife

>>717194031
Based CULTURED chads

>>717194158
Makes me think how much will they work with Vincent. Iirc Nomura said he wanted to make a better DoC after 7r project ends, maybe I dreamed that

>>717180346
>Faithful remake
>FFT remake comes out
>crickets
Face it pajeets, Remake and Rebirth would have flopped hard if it was a 1:1 remaster.

>>717194031
>>717193445
So they basically pulled a Graces f
>1 female character
>Divide the role making one special and the other one the love interest

>>717194379
I'm actually surprised they didn't remake the dialogue for Crisis Core in the remake to make it no so bad, but they went full "pure recreation" for that one even while using the new VAs.

>>717184410
Oh no it's this schizo who can't tell the difference between character driven stories and the vastly inferior narrative driven stories.

>>717194139
>may not be necessary
Which it is in the manner you used it.

>>717194485
Naruhodo

>>717194461
FFT isn't out yet.
Also nta, but I'm playing it day One, I've been waiting for a native executable of FFT on PC or modern consoles for decades now, and that didn't run like shit (PSP version had insane slowdown)

>>717180282 (OP)
this time i will never let you go

>>717194610
You can tell after 7 they felt kinda lazy to make more triangle romance
>Selphie and Quistis were supposed to be romantic options
>Tidus at first was between Rikku and Yuna but that idea was killed fast
>Ff12 promos teased Vaan x Ashe a lot, probably a Penelo x Vaan x Ashe was discarded
15 and 16 came full back to romance too

>>717194581
>Which it is in the manner you used it.
Incorrect. It may or may not be used. From the criteria, it is not actually needed.

>>717194610
There was some interview some anon posted that was interesting to read about Bleach, with japanese saying heroine =/= love interest

>>717188292
>OOT remaster
>crickets
>Super Mario RPG remaster
>Crickets
>Final Fantasy Remake and Rebirth changing the entire game around to give people a new experience
>Daily threads for the last 6 years

>>717194743
It may or may not be necessary, depending on the the manner it is used, which in this case it is necessary.

>>717194742
To be fair, there are still insane fanboys/fangirls decades after OG 7 over that damn triangle that corrupt conversations surrounding 7.

They outright poke a bit of fun at that level of fandom in Crisis Core with the 1st soldier fangirl clubs.

>>717193445
Lol
>reno was the black one and rude was reno with an eye patch.
>Vincent was more important and also called sephiroth.
>Tifa and Aerith were the same character and she had FFX guardians.

>>717189501
the e3 tech demo looked like grey colorless shit

>>717194868
So they repurposed tifarith as Yuna kek

Incorrect.

>>717193880
gay

>>717194610
Seriously speaking, What really happened is Nomura putted his Hgame waifu Aoyama Misao (since 1993=1997-4) knockoff: https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1747320995033.jpg
there as a placeholder (with a placeholder name) in a diagram which he made FOR FUN ("no one asked me to").

That thing also came back from recycle bin as they need a substitute while the genuine heroine became absent.

>>717193920
Just look at that smug, she knows

>>717193920
Tifa is the heroine in FF7, Aerith is a plot device

Correct.

>>717194610
Tifa was also inspired by the fighting girls that used to be popular (Kirie, Ran Mouri, Katsura, etc)

How many new areas are they going to add in part 3? There's not a lot of "big" zones left. I'd love an upper plate hub for the return to Midgar.

>>717195201
It's just another Grace's f case, one is the heroine, the other is the love interest

>>717195629
Wutai will probably be a big location

>>717195629
Likely not many. LIkely more about areas you've previously encountered being changed, and more ways of traversal (airship, submarine)

>>717193920
She is clouds heroine more likely

>>717195629
They can do a northern snowy zone, wutai zone and mideel. Otherwise it's just additions to zones we already have I'd guess

>>717195201
>as they need a substitute while the genuine heroine became absent.
due to they wanted to do something "no one did that before" for the pure shock value.

Tifa and Zack has two things in common: both came back from recycle bin for no other purpose than being a clue for a subplot,
and appeals to cultureless(s) who always pretending to understand any shit.

>>717195629
Hoping for an Icicle Inn expansion for a proper snowy town area.

>>717195629
Can they expand on midgar? I want some new sections or hubs in the city like the beginning of ff7/ff7r. I love urban environments. Do something new you retards

>>717196006
>and appeals to cultureless(s) who always pretending to understand any shit.
this is an awful lot of editorial bias on your part anon, and not of actual substance.

>>717182065
Because thats all they've got

>>717195201
>>717196006
Why are you talking with yourself lmao

>>717196006
And? Shinobu was the original heroine and not Lum too, sometimes a better character just appears

>>717194576
Oh hey I was wondering when you were going to show up and prove that post right again

>>717180282 (OP)
>she is alive
remakechads won

>>717196259
Common trend in these threads.

>>717184410
>Is DoC good?
Yes, because Vincent Valentine is in it and he says things and does things and he is Vincent Valentine. That's the beauty of character driven storytelling. It's all you need for a game to be good.

>>717196417
>that post
FF threads are so weird. I have no clue what you're talking about.

>>717196006
Lufia 2 did that too

>>717194576
>>717196598
Well said

>>717184410
Nice worthless post truth post

I want DoC remake to have more Shelke and see more Nomura simping for Gackt in the cringiest way

>>717197015
It is true thoughever

uematsu kino.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0AcvqihLgM

>>717197021
>Gackt appears in 7R3
>"Kept you waiting, huh"

>>717195393
>she knows
more like she knows she won't be anything else than a fap material since 1993

-> https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1751130932917.jpg

>>717197217
>He will also appear in FFX remake teased in part 3 credits

>>717197204
pure kino. for me its this, on our way and aeriths theme. Literally got goosebumps when i first played it using headphones

https://youtu.be/COeNYgJvgYs?si=KZ7hgAGI9_9qaHTR

>>717197267
Plus owning Aerith in pixiv

>>717197021
>DoC
can't see them touching that again

>>717184410
I like all those things BECAUSE they let us spend more time with the characters

>>717180282 (OP)
The sad part is that FF7 fans are so immature that they can't get past their storyfag reasons to enjoy one of the most innovative JRPGs in the past century. I'm half-way into Metaphor Refantazio and Atlus is absolutely phoning it in with their mechanics. Every fight is tedious and repetitive. And the game even quietly admits it by letting you auto-skip battles after you've reached a certain level cap.

>>717197267
So they let Aerith the slut parts? Since she had Zack and she is way more flirting....

>>717197043
Its a post truth.
Theres people out there that fit your description, like any other fandom. But they dont represent the vast majority.
But somehow this very low minority is supposed to mean everyone is like that.

>>717197549
They really need to grow up and stop caring so much about what happens in the story

>>717197267
and yet you seethe into eternity

I wonder how many gil an hour you get being scarlet's footrest guy

>>717197716
>Theres people out there that fit your description
Yes that's true.

>>717197718
They need to grow up and realize that video games are about PLAYING games. Story should always be secondary.

>>717184410
True, many people fit this description.

>>717180282 (OP)
if you actually have a brain you would realize the ending is not different

>>717196149
>>717197384
yep, thanks to subhumans unironically look like picrel.

>>717197828
Anon, FF7 holds such a high place in people's minds who played games in the 90's specifically BECAUSE of the story and how they did characters.

Baldur's Gate 2 was literally made the way it was because of Final Fantasy 7. BG1 was a very different beast in terms of characterizations, dialogue, and story compared to 2, and 2 is what all the following CRPGs based themselves off of.

>>717197267
>@koiamLa
Holy shit, pure mental illness, imagine being THIS triggered about a character

>>717184410
You can always count on the one guy who is more mad about this than anyone else to show up and prove it 100% accurate

>>717198005
You sound like those Tea App roasties thinking every man is a rapist for liking hot women

>>717198005
Anon, there was some pedo who was fan of Zelda. It doesn't mean people can't like Zelda anymore. That guy probably doesn't even know who those Tifa, Precure and other characters are
Besides you sound like a fucking terrible person if you think we are fucking rapists just for liking a character you dislike, makes me start to dislike aerithfags unless you are a tifafag falseflagging

>>717198147
>That twitter
Mother of god. Femcels can be so bitter

>>717197408
7R is cringier and has even worse writing so I can. they even brought over all the DoC shit like deep ground and injected it into 7R.

>>717198525
Nah, DoC is still undefeated on cringe level.
Crisis Core is up there, but people like the character of Zack so much that it overpowers the cringe for those fans.

>>717198136
>Anon, FF7 holds such a high place in people's minds who played games in the 90's specifically BECAUSE of the story and how they did characters.
True, but I also enjoyed FF7 because of the novel gameplay mechanics. I consider FF7 Rebirth to be a spiritual successor because it also has cutting-edge ARPG combat mechanics. That shit doesn't come knocking on my door every day. Atlus certainly doesn't give a fuck to even try innovating their mechanics.

So I have 2 choices. I can be a punk ass bitch and cry that Rebirth isn't faithful to the original's story. Or I can be a grownup adult and just be grateful that a once legendary JRPG company is finally showing signs of life for the first time in nearly a quarter-century.

>>717198890
I can see them recycling rebirth combat for ff17, not being attached to a fucking long trilogy that recycles the same story can help A LOT

>>717198525
With the whole restructure and ditched projects, I'm less sure. DoC sold like shit, reviewed like shit. Seems little money to be made in the effort. Even the main remake is struggling to hit its targets as is.

>>717198147
Pretty much like with Orihime, a woman having huge boobs, having fans both males and females and the character being cool and kind it's too much for them

>>717198703
>Nah, DoC is still undefeated on cringe level.
But the story is character driven. What more could you possibly want from a game?

>time jannies

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717198703
>Nah, DoC is still undefeated on cringe level.
no it's not. 7R is the gayest and trashiest anime cringe i've ever seen. and that includes Kingdom hearts 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFcFeuBhzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YzPFyyc4oM

>>717198890
I mean I agree. I love Rebirth's combat, and hope it isn't just abandoned after 7R3.

Was more commenting on the influence of OG's story and such.

>>717192762
>Looked like Zack
>Tifa Aerith were one
>They just divided the whole thing in 4 characters to have cloud Tifa as the Alive one and Zack Aerith as the dead ones
Kino

>>717199050
For it to actually be enjoyable.
I largely pretend the events of DoC doesn't even exist.
If they can utilize ideas from it in an enjoyable way, go for it. But a remake? No, not unless they completely rewrote the scenario.

>>717198337
A fap material is never a real character except in illiterates or femcels eyes tho.

>>717199230
Disagree by a wide mile.
There's a reason not a single person talks about DoC with any kind of reverence. Even 7 fans hated it.

>>717180282 (OP)
I don't mind exactly but it's weird that people wanted a remake and then the devs started doing this and were all like
>pssht that means we're gonna change literally everything!
And then that became the accepted definition. Remake didn't mean remaking the came from the ground up, it meant literally remaking everything about it. I don't know why they decided to go that route.

>>717199485
I just saw your Twitter some anon posted and yes, you are the femcel one kek

>>717198337
Stop being retarded and just call him a faggot
Geeze, dude

>>717194576
As everyone knows, the best kind of character driven stories are where the characters never change in any way so shippers and waifufags never have to worry about being challenged or upset and nothing of any real consequence happens that can't be undone in 5 seconds so they can perpetually keep pumping out games in the same universe forever and ever.

>>717199485
Since when femcels support eroge lmao, you don't even know which lane to stand for, go join Collective Shout, hag

>>717199516
because it's an obscure 3rd person shooter revolving around an optional FF7 party member.

>>717199853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqjuVPZPrak

>YEAH!
7 fans pretend it's story doesn't exist. If it wasn't for Crisis Core, the entire 7 compilation stuff would've been a failure

>>717199563
>look mom I've discovered a HUGE secret which is some twit am I smart teehee.
nah

>>717199939
>We still have much work to do
>...my brother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyppopdJItw

I think people collectively blackholed their memories over just how terribly bad DoC was

>>717199636
>Him
Anon, it's a woman:
>>717198147

>>717200036
You are creepy. Go back to roasTEA

>>717199516
I don't understand... doesn't the character of Vincent do things and have an arc in Dirge of Cerberus? Why are you calling it bad?

>>717180282 (OP)
I'm not mad they changed the story, I'm mad that the story they changed it to has terrible, fan fiction tier writing and its only purpose was to subvert expectations rather than provide a fresh new take on the material or add anything meaningful. Some of the new character moments/interactions are okay and expand upon the world or add something new to the characters but the overwhelming majority of it is dogshit.

>>717200812
Anon, many things have people do things and have a story arc.

>>717198147
oh no no no koiamlasisters we got exposed

>>717180282 (OP)
Not necessarily directed at you, but people usually disingenuously frame the argument that everyone who criticizes Rebirth wants an exact 1-to-1 remake. Although silent, not really caring about commenting, most reasonable people are going to be okay with changes in general (story, gameplay, whatever), but the changes that were ACTUALLY made weren't to their liking. They went too far and overly indulgent with some aspects imo. There's such a thing as nuance in people's criticisms. Disingenuously framing it as "oMg YoU wAnT tHe SaMe GaMe?! just play the original LoL!" as a way to falsely "win" the argument is peak woke Reddit behavior.

>>717201039
It's not really peak woke reddit behavior. Disingenuously presenting an argument with ragebait opening text/image is standard modern /v/ posting.

I think a lot of /v/ is in denial at just how bad this place has become.

>>717200956
True, but you can't say they're bad, can you?

>>717201507
I literally just did and you told me I wasn't allowed to call it bad.
I don't really follow what you're doing here

>>717194838
content people don't go to 4chan and bitch.

>>717194838
>>Daily threads for the last 6 years
Let's take a closer look, shall we?
>80% Tifa/Aerith/Scarlet coom threads
>15% Yuffie age of consent debate threads
>5% threads about the games where everyone calls them shit

I am 100% convinced that there are people paid to argue dishonestly with people who hate the remake.

>>717202071
So basically /v/ lmao, most threads here are coom or bait

What happens if Tifa x Johnny happens and they resurrect Aerith only to have her be with Zack instead?

>>717202240
Why pay? Just use a chatbot. They don't even argue or have to show any independent thought or critical thinking. From day one they have used the stock responses about purists and a 1:1 remake. You can say to one of these retards that you're fine with changes, even that you liked a lot of the changes, but if you still say a lot of the choices were shit they still default to the "purist" dialogue tree. It really is like arguing with a brick wall. IF they are real human beings it's clear they just can't imagine anyone shitting on a game with Cloud and Sephiroth in it. For some reason this cast has held certain autists in their grip for decades and they really don't know what they'd do if they had to drop them and move on.

>>717202569
They chickened out and gave Johnny a future girlfriend in the Rebirth sidequests

>>717202071
Like many other posts ITT, I fully agree. You are completely right. But I don't think it's fair that you're saying it because it reflects badly on 7R fans. It's just not fair.
What you're describing happens with other games, so why say it when it makes 7R look bad, even if it's true? Think about the unfairness.

>>717202750
People have an autistic obsession with FF kek

>>717203462
I just don't think it's fair to criticize 7R if the same criticism could be made of any other game.

>>717181405
is dead

>>717181405
Soon, Zack

Just got to Nibelheim 10 seconds ago and this game has been pure kino so far. Hate you lying faggots.

>>717203683
I imagine this retarded mindset has caused you a lot of frustration over the years

>>717206227
Same, it's not perfect but it's fun. /v/ is too miserable

>>717186551
>Rebuild of Evangelion.
I'm still malding about that.

>>717180282 (OP)
I think that the whole angle of Cloud denial is really interesting and actually fits perfectly well with the original, TOO well in fact, to the point that it makes me think that this plotline was at some point in the original but got cut, so they added this "grief/guilt" arc in advent children to compensate.
Im more surprised at people thinking her death cutscene in rebirth was THE aerith death scene, as if this plot line wont be revisited later in part 3 and act as part of Cloud arc of acceptance (of himself and others). Like, "no stab" or "we didnt see the burial", yeah of course because thats the point. We are looking at everything through Cloud's eyes. To each his own, i guess. But i found it really interesting, even if the execution wasnt perfect. I vividly remember being a little confused because the cutscenes and dialogue sometimes are too vague or go too fast, but once i saw THIS specific moment, of aerith "returning", speak to cloud and then see Cloud smiling alone like a schizo retard told me everything they wanted to do and it was pretty cool.

>>717206719
It's really good. I'm legit angry I could have played this a year ago and instead I listened to this board filled with retarded niggers.

>>717207443
Why did you ignore the identical and organic "wow this game is kino why did /v/ lie to me" threads that get made here once an hour every day?

>>717207048
Eva-06 was done dirty.

WILL YOU LOVE ME NOW, CLOUD

>>717207782
Those are haters larping as fanboys

>>717207394
Many think there is a literal multiverse lol. It’s quite impressive how misunderstood ff7 is by its own fanbase.

Holy fuck the Nibelheim chocbo is lit af

>>717207394
I genuinely think the story is better with bad polygons, text and hand drawn backgrounds. Making it modern 3d didn't really improve it.
>>717208427
Sometimes a story is better when things are left unexplained. Almost every single time a game removes the mystery behind everything it cheapens the story.

>>717193810
honestly reading that as a "yes"
ESLs always cope with their weak grasp of the language by focusing on easy things like punctuation and capitalization

I just hate it because it's fucking gay. OG was gay too, but a different sort of gay.
Final Fantasy is just really fucking gay.

>>717208427
Anyone who understands ff7 wouldn't dare to criticize the remake games. Criticizing them is just admitting you never understood or truly liked ff7 in the first place. And that will stay true no matter what happens in part 3.

What does the Lifestream even do?

>>717209037
What

>>717209203
It creates cameos for easily pleased fans who are just happy to see characters again

>>717208427
see
>>717190525
>>717190660
>>717190769
at the end of the day it's all the same thing, inconsequential WHAT IF scenarios that can be abused and thrown away on a whim

>>717209203
Whatever the writers need it to

>>717208427
>>717209037
This

>>717209249
its a falseflag. He's basically angry at you for suggesting that some criticisms might be unfounded, but he cant say that so he acts like a fanboy and repeats "no criticism is allowed" or something.
and now with >>717209447, he's trying to lump your posts together as if you were that fanboy.

>>717209419
If the game doesn't use the word multiverse then it's not a multiverse even if it does the same thing

>>717198147
koiamla your response?

>>717209249
I'm annoying >>717209537 by agreeing with what you said.

>>717182065
This
Unfortunately /v/ is full of people who can't express themselves honestly

>>717209037
>Anyone who understands ff7 wouldn't dare to criticize the remake games
I will criticize it because I refuse to pay full price a single game 3 times.

>>717180282 (OP)
Why cant we get a nude sex scene with her?

>>717209778
Just keep in mind if there's any "secret" even a retard like you could discover that's not a secret at all.

>>717209595
>It's not rape unless the rapist says so

>>717185894
>Tifa and aerith are so cringe
No need to scream homosexuality anon

>>717209203
It was a pretty genius mcguffin back in 1997 as the "experts" on the lifestream claim that it carries the memories, souls and life of everything from the past, present and future thus allowing for the idea of time travel to be a thing if someone was capable of controlling the lifestream.
It's alluded to in both remake and Rebirth that Aerith has that control over the lifestream and Jenova does as well but only because Jenova literally cannot be broken down and consumed by the lifestream itself.

>>717185894
>the turks
They literally state several times throughout the original game and rebirth that they don't care two shits about Cloud and the gang as long as Cloud and the gang don't fuck with their mission to track down Sephiroth/Jenova to the promised land, dingbat.

>>717211613
No aliens can be broken down by the lifestream, not just Jenova. Strangely enough Spirits Within used the lifestream mechanics almost one to one.

>>717212104
So does ff9, the gooch just really liked the concept of it.

>>717180483
>I'm okay with (literal brand ad) being GOTY
FF7Retards??? Are we stupid????

>>717211613
So it's just an even more retarded version of Interstellar?