The remastered version of Fate Hollow Ataraxia comes out on Thursday next week.

Are you hype for Bazett's and Caren's game?

Does it have the sex scenes

>>717185669 (OP)
>Scenes removed
Wouldn't waste time on it even if it was free, let alone paying any money for it

>>717186013
>>717185959
C'mon, if you truly wanted to read those, you would have already done so over the last decade.

>>717186272
I did retard

I'm not going to let this thread die right away.

>>717185669 (OP)
I already read the uncensored version, so no.

>>717185669 (OP)
Make it gay and black

>>717185669 (OP)
I read through the fan translation years back. I don't care for the kiddie censored version.

>>717185669 (OP)
Yes, the main story is better than anything in the original VN and this should have a better translation than the fan release. I will reread it but with liberal slice of life scene skipping.

>>717187206
>>717187904
If you actually read it then you would know how terrible those "sex scenes" are.

>wholesome, family friendly version
Based. I don't need that icky sex shit. It's so stupid and dumb.

>>717185669 (OP)
>Are you hype for Bazett's and Caren's game?
>For all Ages
Nope.

I don't want my precious boy and girls in the normies' sight.

>>717188236
>I love Fate!
>but no sex scenes
>and no slice of life scenes
Just watch jujutsu kaisen you fucking ape

>>717188357
Aww, how romantic.

>>717188236
You're not entirely wrong but they are still amusing.
Not to mention that if the Tsukihime remake and Fate remastered translations are anything to go by, then the fan translations will be superior anyway.

>>717188357
>not including the JACKHAMMER
anon, you had 1 (one) job.

>>717188613
Unironically, shitposting aside, look how pleasured that woman is of having hot cum shot inside her.

>>717189056
It's just how nature intended things to be.

>>717189039
Okay here.

I unironically like Hollow Ataraxia more than I like Stay Night.

>>717188494
The SoL scenes in HA, like any disjointed fan disc collab between numerous writers, vary wildly in quality. Just saying I'll skip them at my discretion since Nasu's content is the main draw of it anyway.

>>717188876
Are you a native English speaker? FSN's official translation is translation is leagues better than the fan translation by Mirror Moon (unless you are referring to some other fan translation). Mirror Moon has produced the worst translations I've ever had the displeasure of reading; surpassing them is not a difficult accomplishment. That doesn't make the official translation good on its own, but it's still significantly better.

>>717185669 (OP)
>Bazett's and Caren'
You mean the characters that appear in like 5% of the game.
Even years later I'm still baffled at Bazzet rile in the story, she shows up in the prologue as the protagonist then when you switch to Shirou she's instantly forgotten until halfway through the game, has another very short segment and then nothing again until the ending of the game.
Caren is similar but at least she shows up from time to time during the daytime segments.

>>717189942
What do you mean, Bazett and Avenger scenes happen far more commonly than you imply that they do.

>>717189729
>Teme!
>YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

>>717190028
Really, because I only remember a couple. The admittedly quite long prologue until you get to the daytime parts. A scene midway that mentions how they have been going through the cycles with 3rd war Assassin blowing up Bazzets brain and their encounter with the Edelfelt twins. Their encounter with Shirou where they win, the counter when Shirou brings Cu to fight her and the ending with the glass panels.
Compared to all the SoL segments and even the main segments in the daytime it is not that much screentime.

>>717190501
There was at least one scene on the pier of the westernized district.

>>717190764
hehehe
he asked her if she was a virgin

>>717190886
It's unusually honest for an anime game that she didn't give an evasive non-answer.

>>717191068
it's crazy she fucked kirei
if she put two and two together, she'd realize she fucked caren's dad

>>717191127
Do they ever talk to each other, though... I don't think they do. Caren and Bazett, I mean.

>>717191127
Did they explicitly fuck? I only remember Bazzet having something of a crush on him that he exploited.

>>717191276
Not that anon but yeah they did. Or at least her inner monologue definitely makes it sound like that was the case.

>>717191276
bazett had a work related experience
bazett knows kirei from work
kirei explicitly says pillow talk when she's talking to him about legends or whatever
>>717191249
yeah
when she goes to the church after remembering how she lost her arm

Do I need to 100% the fsn remake to play this game?

You forgot a special someone, OP
>>717191786
You have to clear all 3 routes to understand FHA's story, so yes

>>717191786
As long as you finished in any way from Prologue to Epilogue, you should be fine. 100 percenting FSN only means that you got a handful of alternate scenes and all the bad ends, none of which are terribly important for FHA.

>>717191928
does super angra blue ever get explained?

>>717189690
this. F/HA is Nasu's Magnum Opus.

>>717189729
>FSN's official translation is translation is leagues better
The first line had an error, literally first line of the prologue when you start the game is "the tip of his sword was like a flash of lightning" in reference to Lancer's spear. Not even mentioning the FUCK YOU FUCKING SHIT and Altria

>>717191928
Caren x Avenger, the greatest love story ever told.

>>717192093
Don't forget about the mansplaining, either. Very much a word that a mid-00s japanese teen would use.

>>717192126
ロックスター 見て

>>717191928
>>717191940
Gotchu, thank you anon

I thought yesterday's thread would survive the night, but guess not, huh. Guess american hours don't like visual novels.

Damn that whole debacle with the remaster being unplayable at launch got completely wiped from everyone's memory. Now there are people who unironically defend it and think it was even slightly polished and not just MTLd

>>717192523
my fucking sides

>>717192093
I think I saw an its spelled it's in the prologue, too. Is (fat) Albert an ESL?
Hopefully he doesn't translate Angra's speech mannerisms too poorly. BL already took a lot of liberties but most of them made sense. If All Evils of the World starts saying "fr fr bruh?" I'm ending it
>>717192061
something something positive energy
>>717192091
I like how you can distinguish Avenger and cosplay Shirou by the little shining spots on the irises reflecting light. Angra's eyes are matte dark in comparison

>>717192523
Post the one where all the Caster skeletons got swapped for Illya.

>>717192091
Post more best boy.

The F/SN official translation was worse than Mirror-Moons, I have no faith in a Hollow Ataraxia translation done by the same people.

>>717192465
Already played it years ago, it's a worst release (tied to a store) than what you can already get from Nyaa.

No point.

>>717192465
Original VNs have been tainted by gacha, I shan't be playing it nor will I talk about it. Honestly the only reason we are getting these translations is FGO slowly dying

Girls work soon

>>717192607
>something something positive energy
albino nun pussy so good it purified the manifestation of humanity's evil

>>717192750
I like to think that was his appearance when he was summoned in the 3rd HGW
>>717192949
His eyebrows also raise themselves by a few inches. The pussy was SO GOOD it cheered him up for the rest of his non-life

>>717192257
Those transparent steps with nothing to hold on to above hundreds of meters of nothing trigger my fear of heights pretty bad.

>>717193121
But like imagine if you had to Ico your waifu up them, too. What if she slips or gets dizzy halfway?

>>717193121
oh yeah
weird but they do

>>717193115
Avenger class card is probably what he actually looked like during the summoning.

Hollow Ataraxia did the fake OP first, then real OP and title drop later thing more than a decade before Nier Automata did.

>>717193687
nah, he was a shadow
that is basically the real him that died on that hill in persia though

>>717193687
I don't think him all fucked up like a corpse would suit the descriptor of a "regular man", but the Einzberns have no clue about humans anyway
That design's still amazing, btw. the 8th card completing the set, with a special red background to commemorate the one person capable of being the class. FGO would do cards again a decade later only for them to look lame and shit

>>717194043
Didn't he became a shadow after being sucked up into the grail?

Is mid-October in Japan really warm enough that you can walk around in jeans and a shirt alone?

>>717194187
he was always a shadow
his name doesn't even exist anymore
>>717194105
bratty albino italian nun needs correction

>>717190449
That was addressed yesterday and no one could explain what the issue is.

>>717192093
The actual prose and style arefar more relevant to how good a translation is than nitpicking one or two continuity errors or name choices you don't like. Fan translation also has plot/lore errors (namely the Das Rheingold thing).

Compare pic rel with the original:
Original lines:
>The clashing sounds are like a well orchestrated music.
>Two steels clanging against each other.
>The sparking clashes increase in rhythm without pause.

You'd have to be an ESL to think the fan translation is better. It's not even about them missing the metaphor, the original TL is stilted by itself, and I remember quite a lot of bits being like that.

>>717192523
>the ESL fan translation is better because... technical errors which were patched within a day

>>717194537
I think people found out his name was probably Ahriman, considering the remaining evidence and the location it was found in

>>717185669 (OP)
Huge Hollow Ataraxia fan excited to read it for the first time

>>717194781
>That was addressed yesterday and no one could explain what the issue is.
retard

>>717185669 (OP)

>>717194924
The 4 hours of Caster housewife wars, 5 hours of Makidera dating and n^∞ hours of Hanafuda all contribute to the plot, actually

>>717194898
it means angry spirit
it's not his name it's a title

>>717195254
luscious titties and a nice ass

>>717195536
Sadly, they omitted the nipples from the Remaster's cover art, but they un-taped Bazett's chest for once
She's slightly bigger than Sakura but she uses tape to squish them into the suit. Yes, that's canon

>>717194781
>no one could explain what the issue is.
You got several people explaining to you what the issue was and you decided to ignore it.

>>717194781
You sound like a discord moderator or something. Completely ignorant and self absorbed.

>>717195823
naisu

>>717196325
I normally bear distaste for Takeuchi's modern art (2009+) but the one for FHA-R is actually pretty good. I saw some sketches he did of the Ritsukas about last week and they looked on point. Maybe it's his coloring assistant or his own touch-ups that fuck it up

>>717195859
Where?
While you're at it, respond to the direct comparison I posted which compares multiple lines of narration (and not just some name choices/negligible continuity errors).

Better yet, show me an actual English speaking JPN reader who thinks the fan translation is better? I am keyword searching and it's pretty unanimous that the official translation is a vast improvement. Where do you ESLs come from with this shit, Mirror Moon's translation is not even native-tier English let alone anywhere near a good representation of Nasu's style.

>>717195823
>>717196707
Yeah, I preferred the one with Bazett's tits out too, but this one is pretty nice considering his modern track record. The faces look relatively fine and he had the good sense to hide his weird hands pretty well in the overall composition.

>>717196809
There's no point discussing with you, you had a fuckload of chances and refused to acknowledge them. You'll do it again because you think protecting your original stance is more important than understanding or learning anything.

>>717196895
>>717195823
I do wish it retained the rose window motif and the purple colour scheme, though.

>>717196895
That one was made for the Vita port in 2014, and the faces there looked pretty egregious. idk what's up with his taste but Takeuchi often just gives characters long noses or shovel faces or sunken eyes with lifeless irises.
Picrel is part of another cover with Saber, Archer and Lancer in it and was drawn for the Vita port too, but it looks a bit more normal in comparison.

>>717197442
I mean, yeah, it's Melty Blood Actress Again tier art, but it's still pretty good for modern Takeuchi.

I don't personally like your pic related. He looks okay but he's just floating in this red Devil May Cry 1 void.

>>717197794
>I mean, yeah, it's Melty Blood Actress Again tier art
It's not, meant to say.

>>717188357
Why do people say Fate isn't an H-Series with stuff like this?

>>717197203
The OP's is my favorite and it's from '05, but the one most people like is probably the retail art featuring Caren in the center holding the cloth, with the church roof in the background that appears in the second OP. FHA in general uses a lot of girly colors, like pink, magenta and light yellow to distinguish itself from FSN's dark blues and deeper purples. It gives the VN and its artwork a far more ethereal tone in comparison to the urban fantasy vibe.
I still need to track down the vertical version of picrel that's just Caren, Bazett and Avenger
>>717197906
Sometimes I feel relieved that Fate's not going to get a VN remake, because TsukiR's design choices are fucking SOVLless. Rest in peace Arc's granny skirt and Shiki's circular glasses

>>717197145
Nice cop out. Even if I were to concede that this one particular line where Shirou hurt your feelings by swearing is worse in the official translation (it isn't), it wouldn't make up for the hundreds of thousands of lines of text which are better written in the official translation. You haven't made or even attempted to make an actual case for Mirror Moon's TL and how it's supposed to be better.

If your argument hinges on a name or a few words you don't like, it's not going to hold up against an entire several novels worth of text that reads better than the ESL shit Takajun put out. He deserves credit for getting people into the franchise but there's really no reason to ever go back to it.

>>717198108
Because those scenes are few and largely irrelevant. You're literally in a thread for a remaster of that game with the sex scenes cut out, which wouldn't be possible if they mattered.

>>717198157
...What keeps Sakura's cardigan together? There are no buttons and the halves barely touch. It looks like that in the VN, too.

>>717198707
Tiddies are big enough to squish the hidden button into their crevice... I guess
It could also just be stitched like that on purpose

Is there any significance to both Bazett and Deermud having a beauty spot under one of their eyes? Something to do with fairies?

>>717199462
Bazett's just a birth mark. It only works on cultured people, unlike Diarmuid's which is magical and needs MGI resistance to counter

>>717200015
I don't know whether it's a blessing or a curse that she's only in one real game. A curse because she's a fantastic character and I'd like to see her in other things too, or a blessing because her metaphorical track record is immaculate this way, unlike other characters. I'm thinking of Saber in particular.

>>717198263
Dunno why people even argue it when Takajun himself said his translation was ass.

Can you guys stop with the translation autism or centering everything around the eclipse scenes being removed, for just one thread...thanks.

>>717200619
She gets some fun side stuff in the fightan/brawlans, as well as appearances in Carnival Phantasm and Emiya Gohan. Even in Prillya, where she becomes a story-centric character halfway through, she's well written and entertaining. If anything she gets to reap all the benefits of being a forgotten character.
Her story's done and dealt with like the rest of the FHA trio, so she can just live a normal life while still getting occasional well-written moments to shine

>>717185669 (OP)
People love to talk about Archer using Caladbolg on Berserker, but Archer using Hrunting on Saber is way cooler.

>>717200619
I mean, for a fandisk character Bazzet is doing pretty well in terms of appearances and recognition. She's in Prillya, she was in the fighting game, she has an episode centered around her in CF and she has a servant version in fgo. Sure, she's not Saber but not everyone can be the mascot.

>>717202068
>A-rank luck lets you dodge undodgeable homing projectiles because nothing is impossible if you roll a 20

This setting really is just a homebrew DnD campagin, huh.

>>717197442
Yeah, that's always been the weird part with Takeuchi's post-2010 art-some pieces still capture the vibe, but others look like someone tried to redraw early FSN characters from memory during a fever dream. That Lancer especially got done dirty, his jaw looks like a broken polygon in certain angles. I do remember the cover you're talking about though-it leans more into the "safe publicity art" zone, probably because of how front-facing those three Servants are. Bro knew people were gonna slap that on wallpapers and Vita themes so he toned it down.

This might just be my favourite sprite from all of Hollow Ataraxia.

Warning, it's not the one with Saber's bare butt.

>>717185669 (OP)
>They made Karen look like that on the cover
>Removed her sex scene
Insane. Cruel. Should be punishable by law imo

>>717188236
>If you actually read it then you would know how terrible those "sex scenes" are.
The opinion of a manchild afraid his mother will walk into his room while Rin is being jackhammered in her defenseless anus by our boy Shirou.

>>717188236
Secondary, Hollow Ataraxia is the only TM visual novel with H-scenes that don't suck. They're pretty damn good, doubly so by TM standards. The threesome scene and Golden Bathtub live completely rent free in my spank bank.

>>717202845
>gets torn to shreds
>gets emotional damage equal to that
>"Man, that wasn't worth it."
>references his line in UBW about having shit luck with women
>dies
So glad FHA's ending is a thing

>>717203427
I'm pretty disappointed how little these two have in the way of spicy fanart.

>>717203616
Probably cause it's hard to picture either in a relationship - one's too stiff for it and the other too loose. It's perfect in tandem but it's also difficult to make scenarios for it

>>717203616
>>717203887
Bazett's ass belongs to Avenger.

>>717203887
Bazett is literally in love with him and no way Lancer would refuse her given his legend. They're a pretty solid match.

>>717185669 (OP)
I played fate & hollow ataraxia last year before the ports were announced. H A's story is irrelevant to fate as a whole.

>>717204212
No you didn't.

>>717204294
i did.

>>717204127
Avenger can be the pet dog of the family. Come to think of it, it's a shame him and Lancer only talk once in the whole series, and it's not about Bazett.
>>717204181
Shipping characters when a relationship isn't canon can be annoying, but considering how Caren keeps picking on Baz for acting tsun towards Lancer, I think it's a cute (and kinda confirmed) bond

>>717204627
Revenge can be a bitch sometimes

>>717204723
Lancer is the dog though
>>717204838
>Bazett and Caren both agreeing Shirou looks better as Avenger
>Caren wanting to corrupt Shirou into Avenger

does caren really fuck homeless people to rip demons out of them? i must of been tired when reading that part and didn't quite understand what she said. even in anime Catholicism i think she would still get kicked out the church for that.

>>717204929
At this point they should try injecting stuff into him to see if he'll turn dark for good. Dark Sakura still exists in FHA and they can use Shirou being dipped in the Grail mud in the Fate route as an excuse for why he's able to turn into Angra el forma de Shirou still
>mfw no Dark Sakura x Avenger doujin

>>717205218
Doesn't Shirou's name have the character for "wolf" in it...there's an "inside of you are two wolves" joke in there!

I didn't ask to be a hero. I chose to be one.

>>717205404
I thought it meant "white" or maybe sounded like "castle" but if it's wolf then it's wolf too!
Besides... he did mention in the drunk scene that he'd probably make dog noises if he drank the Einzbern "experiment"

>>717205204
she explodes around them so that entire thing comes into question
because her entire personality is about getting a rise out of people when she's not saving them
>>717205218
There was a fan light novel of Rin being the one to turn dark in HF. I think we need one of Shirou. Maybe because he died from getting dunked in grail mud before Kiri saved him instead of the whole fire and smoke hazards.

also here's a relevant fanart
https://litter.catbox.moe/ukg1w9kuecuiyd45.png

>>717205672
I thought Dark Rin was tied only to picrel, lmao
>pic
No command spell engravings on Sakura sucks, but it's a good bit of fap material

>>717185669 (OP)
The only reason why I would want to get this is because the fantranslated version has a bug that prevented you from getting 100% completion, which makes getting the true ending impossible without downloading a save file online

>>717188468
>he thinks normalfags care about non-gameplay focused lengthy VNs
Mahoyo got released in English couple of years ago, and yet I've yet to see any mentions of the game outside of VN threads and Nasu threads

>>717186272
>>717188236
It don't fucking matter. The sex scenes are an integral part of the story.

>>717206206
Mahoyo's pacing is to slow for most people. The main girls are bitchy feminists and mountain man being dumb as box of rocks does not make a interesting character.

>>717188876
Retard.

>>717206607
Not in HA they aren't. There's only one unavoidable sex scene in HA's main plot right before the finale. The rest are all bonus scenes you need to unlock.

>>717206206
Worked on my machine unless you're talking about the emas or something.

>>717207583
The overworld map theme is completely burnt into my brain.

>dooo-dooo-dooo

>>717207583
On my first playthrough I got to 99.6% before being left completely confused on what to do. I don't think even reading the Caren Alt-H scene helped
>>717207718
That was always such a mood kill, lmao.
I like how it got swapped out for the more serene SoL theme when you reached the end of the game

Bump for Bazett.

>>717206193
>spell engravings
based

good lord, i'm trying to find the thing i was talking about but can't remember the name

>>717206193
>>717209075
Fucking found it!
Scarlet Blood

>>717205218
>you don't want to get on my DAD side
What did he mean by this?

>>717209776
That looks cool as hell. Is there a TL?
>>717209784
Obviously he's talking about his Capsule Servant self, ie. Caren's adoptive father

>>717210042
>That looks cool as hell. Is there a TL?
Unfortunately nope
Here's the full completed thing for free on pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/novel/series/180506

If you understand the basics of Japanese you can probably get at this with meticulous dictionary searching, but even I don't have the time for that myself anymore.
悪い

>>717198108
Is game of thrones a porn book?

Why was Archer so anal about guarding the bridge?

>>717210421
Thanks for the link anyway. I'll wait a decade before checking on BL

>>717210863
remember the finale where all the things rushed toward it?

>>717185669 (OP)
>crop images
>cut content
>badly translate the text
>"remastered"
lol lmao

>>717210887
>I'll wait a decade before checking on BL
lol
lmao

you could probably finish it yourself faster

>>717211010
Maybe I'll learn moonrunes when I get older and more bored of life. Then I will get to be the one whose projects get leaked by heroes of justice

>>717211174
The only real hard parts are picking up how different Japanese grammar is, memorizing words, and motherfucking kanji. What they don't tell you is the Japanese fuck up on kanji too, which is just hilarious.

>>717211308
Kanji, as in stuff like the smiley face that can change depending on whether or not the eye's mirrored? I think there was a joke in Carnival Phantasm about Shirou and sadomaso DVDs and it had that in it

>>717185669 (OP)
Will it have english voiceovers?

>>717211584
>dubbed visual novels
Bwahahaha!

>>717211520
yes

save this thread, slaver

oooohhh ho ho ho ho

>>717212908
I blame Evo for speeding the board up.

>>717211174

You could just use DeepL or something, it’s not perfect but it’s readable. I’ve read way worse translations from professionals lmao

>>717212986
I love how her eyebrows bend when making certain expressions. Takeuchi was at the top of his game when drawing for FHA

>>717185669 (OP)
I refuse to play any Type-Moon trash and I refuse to buy any VNs from them
Nasu is a hack

I would reread it if I could skip every day time scene

>>717213396
There's a skip text button.

>>717198108
>Why do people say Fate isn't an H-Series with stuff like this?
because they ported F/SN to ps2 with them removed all of 3 years after release ported F/HA to vita with them removed in 2014, and these are literally the only things in a series with a bunch of games/manga/anime that have sex scenes.

it's like calling tezuka a furry porn artist because he drew that sexy mouse tits the one time

>>717192093
>Altria
this sucks but mirrormoon translating seigi no mitaka as "superhero" is way worse to be desu with you

>>717213129
The little ones get me.
>"That kiss was just for flavor."
>ACKSHULLY, "I delivered it with that kiss service."

>>717213129

Btw here’s an example of what DeepL gives me if you want to know what it looks like:

Rin covered her mouth for a moment, trying to catch her breath, and surveyed the situation before her.
This was her home, and sunlight was streaming in through the window.
It was a different place and time from where she had been just moments ago.

"What are you so surprised about?
Don't tell me you've completely forgotten about yesterday?"

Rin stared intently at the man's smirking face.
He was both hateful and yet somehow endearing.
My Archer.

Rin exhaled slowly and glared at Archer.

"And what about you? What are you doing here? Did I say you could come in?"

"...It seems my master has woken up. Well, then, I'll be on my way.
Ah, but before that..."

The archer smiled again.

"That pajama looks good on you, Master."

Rin noticed her outfit and blushed.
It was the yellow pajamas with a cat pattern she had worn ten years ago.
Why am I wearing such a childish thing... she thought, but her thoughts stopped mid-sentence.
With all these conditions matching, the answer was obvious.

>>717214005
Not too shabby, I'll definitely give it a go with that program sometime

>>717214005
How can she even wear a set of pajamas that old? Nothing that you had when you were seven will fit you when you are seventeen.

>>717214179
Like most MTLs, it suffers most with context greatly changing how a lot of Japanese words work.

Take 悪い for instance. It means bad. When someone says it casually, it means my bad. Or it can just mean bad if something is brought up as topic. DeepL will translate it as poor.

>>717214179

I am following the process of stuff like this, apparently DeepL isn’t even the best program anymore. I think someone made a chart of the best ones on the VN subreddit. It’s crazy that this is considered not even good anymore compared to newer stuff.

>>717214554
Post it. I want to see.

>>717214403

It translates it better if you upload a longer text, I’ve noticed. This is why VN translations are still kind of mediocre because it’s translating line by line instead of an entire chapter. It doesn’t have context

>>717214554
I think I found what you're talking about - Sugoi Toolkit. It seems good but its author is a whore and offers it for free only when the planets align for all of 48hrs. To hell with it

>>717214626

I think this is the site

https://huggingface.co/datasets/lmg-anon/vntl-leaderboard

>>717214880

Looking at the chart that I posted here Sugoi isn’t even the best one. It seems tailored specifically to VNs which is what it has going for it I guess.

Bump for Hollow Ataraxia.

>>717215323
So chat GPT is running first?