Thread 717191807

just installed this, what am I in for?

You're in for PEAK.

Also don't be afraid to use cheesy/scummy tacticts, orders exists for a reason and ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO VISIT THE CEMETERY.

Also do skirmishes for farming points

>>717191807 (OP)
The perfect example of style over substance.
If it used a realistic artstyle everyone would shit on it for being a shallow, poorly designed turn based strategy tactics games but a cute anime artstyle really helps a game.

>>717191807 (OP)
Do you want to cheese the game? If so, then use Scouts.

>>717191807 (OP)
Why dont you start by playing it, asshole?

>>717192445
>use Alicia

FTFY

>>717191807 (OP)
A good time but try not to Scout Rush too early.

>>717192676
but I am right now?

>>717191807 (OP)
comfy soulful game

scoot rush

>>717191807 (OP)
Selvaria.

>defeated her in 1 round

Love me cheesing this game.

>>717193104
Sexo. Would give her at least 10 kids.

>>717193104
>defeated her in 1 round

2ez4me, love cheesing this game.

is valkyria chronicles dead? what is that team working on now?

>>717191807 (OP)
Cute story
Easy to break gameplay

They cant make another game because Raita is currently fettered in the FGO basement

>>717193632
SEGA pretty much killed everything in favor of Yakuza.

We need an VC5 but against Vinland since on VC4 they're the ones who wanted to nuke everyone

>>717191807 (OP)
It's really good but do not even bother with any of the sequels.

>>717193798
>do not even bother with any of the sequels.
From what I've seen V3 actually looked decent
Never tried playing it though

>>717193798
I bought this one and 4 in a bundle for like 10$ so I atleast have that one. Whats wrong with the sequels?

>>717191807 (OP)
peak and kino.
>>717192414
bozo got filtered by chapter 7. which is admittedly dogshit on first try

>>717193798
VC4 is good.

>>717191807 (OP)
Don't use scout spam and ignore ratings if you want to have fun.

>>717193798
VC4 is pretty decent, it actually fixes a bunch of stuff from the 1st game, like Scout rushing.

Also Kai's PHAT ASS.

>>717193975
the pic is kinda full of spoilers
assuming that the op really never played VC1

>>717193798
They are all good though. People said VC2 had anime trash writing like FE Fates but that turned out to be lies. And the separated maps weren't as bad as yall made it sound either.

>>717194103
ANAL

>>717194103
My gaming waifu

>>717194103
what is the tactical benefit of wearing a cute hat as a sniper?

>>717193870
I'm playing VC3 right now and it's kino.

>>717193798
VC3 was fine, but I kinda got distracted by other things midway through. Maybe I'll pick it up again some day.

>>717193975
Claude is unironically the better character because he actually had stakes and most of the story is actually more groundes, unlike VC1 where "power of friendship" saves the day.

Also he should've nuked the capital, who fucking cares about the girl, he literally did a Prighozin and didn't finished the job.

>>717194140
Yeah I forgot about that
>>717191807 (OP)
Don't use scout spam and ignore ratings so you. It's more fun that way.

>>717191807 (OP)
Lots of fun if you don't use orders

>>717194398
>did a Prighozin and didn't finished the job.
so just like Prighozin then?

>>717194508
>one finger goes straight for the pooper
wtf he is literally me

>>717194103
>like Scout rushing
Really? I still felt that Scouts are still broken as hell.

>>717194508
Iconic Cuscenes of Video Game History

>>717191807 (OP)
Scout rush victories and fantastical racism.
Fuck the darkies.

>>717193798
VC4 is as good as VC1. Ignore this faggot.

Hi! I'm Ted!
*BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG*

Thank you, thank youuu!

>>717194103
Was this an appropriate toy for a child's computer game?

>>717193783
I always thought VC5 would be in Eastern front with Vinland and *Not* Japan. They alluded to aerial units and some sort of ninja/shinobi class. It sounded like fun.

>>717194739
They don't have an Alicia-tier scout but APC and Direct Command makes it even more cheesy.

>>717193940
>got filtered by chapter 7
Quite the opposite.
Just because I like a game doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge its mediocrity.
Most of the games I like are garbage, and that's something I can't change or deny.

Was killing off Vyse in the anime really necessary?

>>717191807 (OP)
kino, but some grinding required

>>717193632
Theoretically they should be working on a Sakura Wars right now. They're just lollygagging it for some reason and it's holding up VC development as a result

>>717194935
can you still buy this figurine?

>>717194935
Yes. Impressionable youth are exactly whose natural dislike of fat, ugly, or in any other way abnormal people needs to be reinforced at every opportunity.

Valkyria chronicles is one of those games that are so good that even /v/ won't scream and cry about it having openly gay characters
In today's climate that's like a 12/10 game

>>717191807 (OP)
a lot of feels.

>>717195183
>even /v/ won't scream and cry about it having openly gay characters
Because the game is protected by nostalgia.
Had it been released for the first time in 2019 or 2020 other would be the tune; it would be part of that "WOKE GAMES THAT FAILED" copyasta the board loves to spam.

>>717193632
Nights into Dreams pachinko machines

>>717195183
Aren't the gay characters just caricatures of stereotypical fags though? That's acceptable and not woke. It's been a while since I played so I could be wrong.

>>717195183
Well, they do give you the option to have them fairy guys "volunteer" for sudoku missions.

>>717193798
This. It's one of those franchises where only the first game is good.

>but VC4
4 literally killed the franchise, something not even Revolution managed to. Just think about it.

>>717195183
>/v/ won't scream and cry about it having openly gay characters
Because they're played for laughs in the classic Japanese fashion by being your average okama?

>>717195183
gay character there has Bender's VA so he is based

>>717195183
/v/ is biased towards VC for the same reason the board is biased towards Senran Kagura while shitting on every other action game that exists: cute anime girls.
It's not about the game's quality but about it having waifus.

>>717195356
>>717195401
Nobody remembers the lesbian

>>717195134
Only if you think it's worth $200 USD

>>717195183
First off, he is played off as a comedic relief and second, he is not fucking annoying. Third, all of them look sort of normal so if you never used them you would never know they are fags. Whereas with someone like Bazzinga from Concord you don't even need to hear the creature speak to know what it's about.

>>717191807 (OP)
pretty boring game
can be hard time to time
first basic unit i think is most op

>>717195709
Jesus, that bubble butt. I want her to sit on my face.

>>717195183
4 was mistranslated to be pozzed.

>>717195851
If you posted Ted, sure, but faggotron there is by far the most annoying character in the game.

>>717196000
same but also my tongue is in her ass

>>717196017
The line
>The only binary that matters on the battlefield is alive or dead
was pretty good coming from the homo though

Mediocre everything. Fun for a couple missions till you realize how basic and shallow everything is.

>>717195042
I played this when it was new on a PS3 and blazed through it without any grinding. I did lose a bunch of characters though. I guess if you want a perfect playthrough you will need to grind, but:

>>717195557
You're totally wrong. The highest points in the game are when you lose a character and its impact on the team and you as a player. It's really well done. Arguing about waifus in VC just seems silly. Everyone's fully clothed and there's only the lightest innuendo in the whole game. I played this when I was far younger and didn't get any feels for the girls in the game. This isn't something like Stellar Blade or FF7R.

>>717194549
Yep.

>>717194739
IMO they had less range, but like the other anon said, APC's exist, but i don't feel like they're broken either. Using the mortar for defense positions, now that was a bit broken IMO.

>>717195356
>>717195435
>>717195851
Jann type characters are basically outlawed in modern media.
Every Japanese game up until after Persona 5 used to have an outrageous fag who wanted to molest the protagonist.

>>717191807 (OP)
Youre in for getting the bug that crashes the game the first time you try to leave the base with your fresh new team and then there's no autosave in 2025 so you never saved and lost like 3 hours of your time.

>>717194954
Wasn't Vinland and The Federation who had the princess Kidnapped in the first place on VC1?

Also on VC4 they were the ones behind wanting to nuke "not Europe".

But an "not pacific front" would be interesting too.

>>717196367
>You're totally wrong
Nah, I'm right and you know it.
Again, if the game had a non-anime artstyle but everything else stayed exactly the same no one would have played it, besides a couple youtubers doing a obscure game retrospective videos.

This bullshit about "good writing" and "intense feelings" is also said about gacha games, Senran or Neptunia; doesn't make it actually true.

>>717196142
iirc he was only some sexual subgroup in the butchered translation.

>>717196576
the pacific front is an underrated setting for a wargame so Im all for it desu

>>717191807 (OP)
Is there a japanese UI mod for the pc version of this game?

I miss gunners from VC3
it was funny putting one in a camp or a chokepoint and just watch enemies get turned into mincemeat in half a second

>>717191807 (OP)
You're in for a mix of negative and positive perks on character level up. Characters developing bad backs and their fetishes being represented in gameplay was cool. I wish more strategy rpgs did the same.

>>717196840
Kai doing the male swimsuit challenge!

>>717196607
>This bullshit about "good writing" and "intense feelings" is also said about gacha games, Senran or Neptunia;
Bru I don't know what to say. The game is fun in ways far beyond gacha and I've never once heard someone praise gacha for writing or feelings. VC has those things plus a fun, granted somewhat casual, gameplay.

>>717193798
The sequels improve the strategy gameplay a lot so there's value in playing them.

>>717191807 (OP)
japshit story
fun broken gameplay

>>717196894
Many have tried and failed

>>717197057
>japanese humor

>>717197178
post the cat dance webm, you know the one

>>717191807 (OP)
Faggotry. Dump its Allied muh-indigenous people shite and just play XCOM or even Girls' Frontline 2. Also, there was a bug in the Steam version involving falling through the map when using stairs at a fortress mission.

>>717197515
if youre gonna drive by shitpost my thread you could atleast have used reverse collapse instead of GF2 as an example to make your bait more believable

>>717197057
>this is a funny haha bonus scene you can buy with the ingame points after you finish the campaign
>watching it unlocks another bonus scene where she and the MC confirm their feelings for each other
>watching that then unlocks the true final battle
>beating that will unlock the true ending, where it is revealed that she ended up surviving her ambiguous death
naked Riley is unironically critical to the game’s plot

>>717197057
>Nobody ripped the nude models or did anything with them
Gay fanbase.

Welkin and Alicia are some of the stupidest characters I've ever seen.

>>717198427
faggot

Why didn't they just copy fire emblem and bolt on a waifu dating sim/ relationship management system? I dont know if I would actually want that but It saved FE and probably would have saved VC

>>717191807 (OP)
Gold

>>717198970
they should've added supports
At S support with Faldio Alicia would cuck Welkin
A support with Selvaria would allow Welkin to save Selvaria

>>717198970
That's like saving a survival horror series by turning it into a Soulslike: it would turn into something else in the name of pursuing money.

Are you a Sega / Warner Bros executive by chance? It's the only reason someone would contemplate such an idiotic, disgusting idea.

people here clearly never played the psp games and it shows

>>717198053
whoa dude spoiler that shit

>>717199526
Yeah but at least it lets me laugh at all the retards that shit on 2 for anime shit while sucking off 3 when it was worse in that regard.

>>717198970
That's just Sakura Wars, and after how the reboot and all of the media around it (lmao gacha) turned out they won't be going down that path again

>>717199212
Look at the thread you are in, its a bunch of coomers jerking off to girls in bikinis, lets not pretend like it would have perverted the series anymore than it already was. There is very little about introducing a partner system that would effect the core gameplay, it may have even improved strategic decision making by adding a layer of complexity on positioning. Its also been a shit tonne of time since i played it but i remember there being in-between mission segments in the barracks which is barely 1 degree removed from running around a school talking to students in FE three houses.

People may say advance wars should have copied FE to stay alive and that's retarded but valkyria chronicles was already 95% of the way there in both structure and tone.

>>717199814
So basically Valkyria Chronicles has never been worth playing and going full coomer is the natural next step for the franchise?

>>717199814
>running around a school talking to students in FE three houses.
don't they literally have a military academy in VC2?

>>717198970
Maybe it would have saved it but I find it incredibly sad that tactical RPGs are so disliked by most people that the only way they can survive is by adding non-tactical elements like dating sims to them.

>>717199904
I am speaking as a fan of only the first game who avoided the 4th because the coomer shit looked dumb but speaking cynically that seems to be the only way the series would survive. If the first game was too niche to get a real console sequel till 4 killed it then it was always destined to die.

I would rather live in a world where that brand of weird strategy game carried on, it may have evolved into something cool.
>>717199943
no idea, only played the first game. I wonder if the military setting was too big a turn off to gain the same female + gay coomer fanbase that loves fantasy and who rescued FE.

>>717199814
imo if the series wasn't so horny then Sega would still be making it.

>>717200243
anons like tactical rpgs on /vst/ that is
its just your average /v/tard in 2025 is a giga newfag, thirdie, underage, or all of the above who thinks behaving like a digital nigger and calling everything [adjective]slop is how /v/ posters are supposed to behave

>>717200420
they're already taking Raita's designs and making them way less horny compared to what he normally draws

>>717200420
>>717200539
I know anons love to say Raita = god but man those tits just look goofy as fuck

>>717200420
I used to think that too but after living through the gatcha era I've become more cynical about modern consumer taste.
>>717200243
I think its also about strategy games working better when you are attached to the units. Xcom somehow pulled this off without any coomer shit but the weeb audience is pretty gay and tends to prefer relationship building and dating to grow attached.

>>717200243
>non-tactical elements
Not necessary non-tactical
Some sort of pair up mechanic would be a cool addition to the gameplay
Plus it would let you learn more about the characters so it is a win-win
VC1 was already heavy on romance

>>717201131
>Some sort of pair up mechanic would be a cool addition to the gameplay
Fuck right off. They already did that in VC3 and it was a dumb gimmick.

>>717201081
>I think its also about strategy games working better when you are attached to the units. Xcom somehow pulled this off without any coomer shit but the weeb audience is pretty gay and tends to prefer relationship building and dating to grow attached.
Being attached to a unit because of their function and being attached to a unit because of their character are very different

>>717201167
what was dumb about it?

>>717201270
It was a pointless addition that no one ever used.
The idea in general is flawed. There's a reason why FE abandoned it after only two games. It'd be like wanting something like biorhythm in VC.

Man this feels like message from god to fucking finish VC4 after leaving it for a while.

>>717201445
>It'd be like wanting something like biorhythm in VC.
That would be fine though, you already have some really fucked up debuff passives so knowing that someone is in a good mood so they might not activate those passives as often would be nice.
It would also make you rotate out some characters who have bad biorhythm so you don't have them drop their spaghetti (and ammo) the second they see an enemy

>>717201445
They didn't abandon it though, both 3H and Engage had their own versions of it, just tweaked differently.

Valkyria Chronicles x Brothers in Arms game when?

>>717201445
You actually sound like the one who hates tactical gameplay
New gameplay features are fun even if they not always work
The worst the franchise can do is to stagnate

>>717201238
Sure, the origin is different but the effect is the same, they also aren't mutually exclusive and compound when put together. When you grow attached to your units for any reason, you begin to contextualise battles and form internal narratives about what is happening during combat, in the absence of a compelling story that is enough to keep people invested and shifts gameplay from an elaborate puzzle to something with emotional stakes.

>>717193521
Based Shamrock knower

>>717202113
Once you get the "Penetration" order, all the bosses become easy.

On VC4 you can do something similar, but with ShockTroopers.

>>717202350
>Once you get the "Penetration" order
imagine ordering your troops to penetrate Selvaria

Imperial Civil War game when? Imagine the possibilities. Just take some figure from the Russian civil war, change names of characters, towns and battles and enjoy the kino you made.

>>717194186
The separated maps actually makes it better for gameplay, you can not skip around camps due to it. In other ways having to move your unit from one side of the flag to another also eats up AP and stops using the same unit as much.
Additionally I don't disagree in the end result with whatever crack the VC2 developers at the time were thinking in making orders for the players practically useless by making shit like defense up on 1 unit cost 4CP. I fully believe orders for the player should be deleted, they are a massive part of allowing cheese strategies to work.

>>717202350
The true anti-Selvaria cheese is to shoot her with the Shamrock equipped with the gatling gun primary weapon. Units can't evade tank weapons and its damage is so insane she dies in 1 volley. You can clear that map without the enemy team getting a single turn.

>>717199139
DORK

>>717202558
No units can evade tank fire, it is the reason why that specific strategy has you cover the shamrock with smoke.

>>717202938
>No, units can evade tank fire
Commas are important

>>717191807 (OP)
Lots of cringe and terrible voice acting

>>717202558
Honestly what i like to do is Use either the Edelweiss or Shamrock to throw smoke grenades in front of the enemies on the right and in the front so Selvaria doesn't one shot you.
Then you pick one Sniper, preferably one with the "Undodgeable Shot" perk, give him the following orders: More Damage and Penetration
Then you take your sniper inside the smoke you used in front, get further inside it, enough that you can see Selvaria's silhouette, then you take the shot. You'll either one-shot her or will need to shoot a 2nd time, but you're gonna have enough points to it anyway

>>717202558
Is this some new strat? I remember back in the day you used Rosie with orders that increased the chance that her skills would proc and orders that increased her damage and accuracy and then just had her shoot Selvaria from spawn.

In these games are you supposed to just stick with one core squad or should you rotate people in and out to spread exp?

>>717204468
You can keep one squad really, but there are certain characters that have perks/bonuses that are better than others. They also have a "relationship" mechanic, so if you pair two certain characters they get buff/debuff.

does the steam version have any option to use the JP sub instead of EN dub?

>>717205140
fuck Im retarded ignore this

>>717191807 (OP)
A doctorate in kinology

>the sequel's final fight theme is the 1st game's motiff but twisted/evil
kino
https://youtu.be/T2Vw6sjzMUQ?si=yIlC7YRH5GaWbor9
https://youtu.be/IzEu5_SKf5o?si=z43QTmVDUc2MaGhd

>>717201963
Funnily enough, apparently TVTropes lists this game and VC4 as each other’s “Spiritual Anti Thesis”.
>Valkyria Chronicles 4 is an unintentional Foil to Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway, which features a similar plot setting. Both feature WWII (or WWII-esque) technology and themes, specifically the horrors of war and the importance of relying on your squadmates to survive, and both focus on a squad of soldiers in the midst of a potentially war-winning operation, which goes horribly wrong, and the squad leader is forced to confront old demons from the past that threaten to erode the trust between the soldiers he is charged with leading. However, Hell's Highway demonstrates that trying to be "friends" with your squadmates is no replacement for actually acting as their leader; Baker tried to be A Father to His Men and a mentor figure, especially Leggett and Frankie, and was more or less in the same position as Claude. BiA takes a more realistic approach to the effects of trying to substitute leadership with friendship in a squad that must trust their squad leader with their lives; namely, discipline breaks down, people get killed, and the squad leader's psyche begins deteriorating badly due to it. And, when Baker finally did air out the demons he was keeping, instead of bringing everyone together, it severely erodes the trust of the men under his command, to the point that Corrion outright declared he would never fight alongside Baker again. Baker manages to just barely restore morale and get the trust of most of his men back, but Corrion looks to be a completely lost cause, renouncing his trust in and friendship with Baker even after his speech.
(Cont)

>>717205554
>Meanwhile, Valkyria Chronicles 4 focuses on the Power of Friendship and making nice with people who are different to get through a difficult situation; oftentimes Claude has to deal with conflicts between his teammates, conflicts that are usually solved by the characters put into situations where they are forced to work together and resolve their differences, and/or air out their secrets and insecurities. Most notably, the whole Kai/Leena conspiracy, which Claude takes in stride and doesn't seem to have any longterm effects on the squad once the secret is revealed, as opposed to the damage control Baker had to run once he outed the truth about Leggett. Although one could argue that Baker's situation was taken much more seriously by the squad because he was the one keeping secrets, the fact that Leena was actively working for the enemy (albeit to help her brother) is still a pretty heavy revelation in itself.

Leena sex btw.

was there even a VC 2and 3? feels like 1 and 4 are the ONLY ones that ever exist

>>717191807 (OP)
good fun.
it's ok if you struggle a bit here and there but keep in mind that every single mission can be done in 2 or 3 turns
enjoy :)

>>717205696
2 and 3 are PSP only because Japs are retarded.

>>717191807 (OP)
The best PS3 game. Peak comfy times.

>>717205696
It feels like it because VC1 and 4 have PC versions
Emulate VC2 and 3, they're good

I want a Valkyria Chronicles RTT. Kind of something like this.

>>717191807 (OP)
terrible writing, kino gameplay and character designs and art direction

I can only imagine how awesome this game would be if it only had a damn writer with a brain

>>717206164
Yu no rike singre squad win the whore warr?

>>717191807 (OP)
>"I can't stand the smell of these darcsen kikes! They smell worse than a dead bloated nigger in a swamp!"
Was this really necessary?

>>717194927
Funny Russian man or bloodthirsty bisexual psychopath?

Okay anon, if you like anime and tactics games, you'll have a blast if you realize it was originally a PS3 game. The PC version is best and there are some mods too. That said
>Do not attempt to go above 60FPS lock
Its linked to physics so if you uncap your framerate and have a fast refresh rate monitor+ more than 60 FPS the enemies will fire faster at you during interception. This is bad and unintended but it came from a time when JP devs never had to thik about anything consoles didn't set by default. . Leave it at 60 FPS lock and you're good, its still very smooth.
>The "ranks" you get are almost entirely based on how FAST you finish the level
This is one big critique. and there are some mods that revamp the rating system to fix this but to start remember that clearing the battlefield, killing every enemy etc.. does not mean you get A / S ranks if you take forever. If there is a capture objective, you can win by rushing to the enemy flag (safely! stay alive) and taking it without killing everyone, in most battles . There ARE enemy Aces and other Named soldiers who can drop cool gear, but early on most of it is very strong but HORRIBLY inaccurate weapons which brings me to
>You have to line up your shots, get the headshot reticle on point and use the weapons with the most accurate/smallest reticles most of the time. Also, after you get to a certain point beating missions with A ranks grants you random Royal weapons which are pretty much the best line around.
>If someone gets knocked down, you have to get another unit of yours to them OR win the battle before A) an enemy unit moves and touches them or B) they expire after a certain amount of turns. Units can permanently die as I recall, but I never had it happen as I always raised up everyone - if you touch one of the, the medic will evac them safe for the next battle.
>There are a few 'secret" recruits, most are random. Pay attention to Character Potentials and unlock them all!
Out of room

VC3 > VC4 > VC1 > VC2

VC1nigs refusing to acknowledge other games in the series, like what you sometimes see in these threads, are the real reason why the series is on hiatus.
The continual wanking of only VC1 has only harmed the series mechanically and narratively.

>>717191807 (OP)
A great game

>>717206948
Their own fault for killing the series momentum by making it psp exclusive for like a decade before returning to the systems the original fanbase was built on. Same thing killed soul calibur and is why everybody still jerks off to SC2.

>>717198970
>fire emblem
>waifu dating sim/ relationship management system
Valkyria Chronicles predates Fire Emblem: Awakening by 4 years.

>>717191807 (OP)
>Mfw I watched the anime for Valkyria and FATE/ZERO in high school and didn't realize they were both game series until a few years later.

OP here, game is fun, like a TBS version of battalion wars. Also lol at Alicia came onto welkins within like 3 story blurbs, they better hook up

>Gallia is literally run by the in-universe equivalent of Jews pretending to be blond Aryans.
How did they get away with this?

>>717193783
What they need to do before/alongside a new game entirely is
>REMAKE Valkyria Chronicles 2 and Valkyria Chronicles 3 Extra Edition
These two are PSP only and were designed for smaller environments and more limitedm though still fun to play. Note VC2 is a direct sequel to VC1 so play it after etc. I highly suggest the Undub and all the Undub DLC for those who want to play the PSP edition emulated. Also, VC3's Extra Edition is the better enhanced version with more content, you dont need to play the other. VC3 didn't come out in the West at all, but there is a fan translation so use that.

Remakes of VC2 and VC3EE for PC and modern consoles would mean a major step forward and not as expensive as a whole new title designed from scratch. Enhanced graphics, expanding the story and mechanics all could make both better and add a lot of "I wish" requests from 2 and 3, showing there's interest for the VC5 that we need.

Also >>717191807 (OP)
I almost forgot, anon, but if you like VC, feel free to play Valkyria Chronicles 4 right after. They take place at the same time, just from a different perspective (ie in VC you follow a unit from the tiny kingdom of Gallia, but VC4 its The Federation which you'll hear referenced in 1. Same war though, vaguely allies in the face of the Empire). The worst thing Sega did was put a fucking 4 in the title because it means a huge percentage of players ignored it knowing that on Steam or even newer consoles that
>Well, I only played 1 and I don't see 2 and 3, I'll probably be lost if I jump right to 4
which I've heard directly from other people who were interested but never played. They should have just called it
>Valkyria Chronicles: On the Federation Front
So yeah, it has some technical improvements. Play it after 1, but don't worry about 2 or 3 first.

>>717207287
Fire Emblem: Awakening predates VC4 by 6 years. instead of making another VC they made a sakura wars game that absolutely nobody played.

>>717191807 (OP)
The best strategic / tactical game franchise ever made.

Marina is a cool Sniper that I can recommend, even though she's not much of a people person. Also, don't recruit Jann, he's a faggot.

>>717192414
SPBP
Artistically speaking, the first Valkyria Chronicles is great, but I stopped playing early on because of how shallow everything else was, from the characters and "worldbuilding" to the barebones gameplay mechanics.

Pure slop, but I can see it being fun and kino if you just turn your brain off and treat it as a purely visual spectacle.

>>717195183
The gay character is just a joke.
Fags aren't uncommon in top tier japanese media. They try them shove them into your ass is a modern trend.

>>717191807 (OP)
A besutiful game that is extremely slow and tedious to play.

>>717197782
W-wait. There is more after you finish the game?

>>717206082
Nah, the camera would be too far away from my waifus to check them out up-close and proper.

>>717191807 (OP)
A tutorial for VC4 where the true fun begins.

>>717206948
>Vc3 being the best one
No

>>717202931
>This is an order.
>First, gently fondle!
>Then, penetrate!

>>717206948
Rank them as wife material and as sexo material

>>717211090
Wife material:
Alicia > Imca > Selvaria > Riela > Julianna
Sexo material:
Imca > Selvaria > Alicia > Julianna > Riela

>>717204468
VC doesn't have per-unit exp, everyone of the same class levels up at the same time, and the exp you gain is mostly based on how fast you finish missions rather than how much stuff you kill.

>>717211090
Reila > the rest

LET'S BEAT THOSE IMPERIALS BACK OUT OF GALIA!
SQUAD SEVEN, MOVE OUT.

>>717191807 (OP)
The prime example of there being such a thing as too much content

>>717210413
This. Jann is a funny bara stereotype and a pretty good character. Almost all the Squad 7 members have something memorable about them and it often affects gameplay with their Potentials. For instance, Freesia is a delicious brown dancer so she gets a boost in accuracy when she's near guys and gets a bonus standing on sand as she was raised in a desert area, but don't have her as the very last one to go in a round or else she'd get a debuff due to the pressure.

I loved VC2 and the retarded high school shit and I am NOT ashamed to admit it.

>>717191807 (OP)
Absolutely terrible snipers up until they level and upgrade guns enough for A-rank accuracy. You can cheese most missions with Scouts/Shocktroopers + orders, but sniping feels so satisfying.

>>717213248
pink girl looks hot

>>717191807 (OP)
cringe kino!
I love the entire series.

>>717213248
same

Look in the Steam Guides section if you're interested in mods. THere are some that even overhaul the combat system in massive ways like https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763922264

Though there are others that just tweak a few things that allow you to get A ranks without having to race timewise exclusively.

>>717206805
>Medic evac
Not sure if this changed for the PC port, but you can call them in as reinforcements on literally the next turn (so if you fuck up and someone dies on turn 1 you can rescue them, call them in on turn 2 and then they spawns on turn 3).

>>717209728
Jann is based though, no significant debuffs + buff when near largo (who you always take anyway for the free command point) + chance to refill ammo = great lancer until you unlock the hidden character. Also I think his voice lines are pretty funny

>>717191807 (OP)
It's a pretty fun game (t. beat it 3 times) although the DLC is disappointing. Unless you are a completionist you aren't missing out by just going through a single playthrough and ignoring the ranking system. If you are outgunned you can always do a bit of grinding via the skirmishes, just do the most recent one on easy for EZ money/xp.

Don't forget to visit the graveyard for a chance to buy orders, or to visit castlefront street because it's how you unlock potentials (the little traits on their profile) which are what makes your squad OP. The system is kinda hidden but basically you need to gain points by deploying them, having them kill one or more enemies, rescue fallen squadmates or capture camps. Once you have enough points you unlock one of their potentials the next time you visit castle street, rinse and repeat until all of them are unlocked.

The only exception are the main characters (Welkin, Alicia, Largo, Rosie) who you need to buy a report on and then you get access to a side mission. Complete it and they get their last potential, which range from BUSTED (Alicia) to pretty good (the rest).

PS: You can't 100% the game without playing through it twice so don't panic about missing shit

Anyway how was VC4? I tried to get into 2 but the setting and tiny maps turned me off.

>>717214817
God bless Raita for including at least one of his "absolute girls" into every VC game.

>>717199680
Sakura Wars died because they barely ever went global with those games. So they got overshadowed by the other games that did and the suits in charge go "Well we don't need this series if our other series is making more money"

>>717210510
Save your wife, anon.

>>717214304
Once Marina unlocks the perfect accuracy skill shes got you don't need any other sniper

>>717191807 (OP)
I love this game. So pissed its dead. Also pissed they didn't make any multiplayer options, even just a couch co-op areana would of taken 2 days to program and been fun as fuck.

>>717215948
>PS: You can't 100% the game without playing through it twice so don't panic about missing shit

What do you mean?

>>717216806
>SW died because it was too Japanese
>VC died because it wasn’t Japanese enough
This must’ve made SEGA execs want to bash their heads against a wall

>>717191807 (OP)
You have 2 choices
>Play ez mode and spam orders
>Use no orders throughout the entire game and turtle but get worse ranks

>>717217084
So satisfying

>>717218031
You have to be like Fire Emblem to succeed; just anime and pandering enough for nips to like but not too anime so you don't scare off the western normies and successfully trick them into thinking they're not playing weebshit

>>717217748
Two reasons
>To unlock the hard mode skirmishes you need to be in new game+
>One of the characters isn't unlockable until new game+
As a bonus, part of each character's biography is what they do after the war, which you can't see until... you guessed it! New game+
this section only unlocks if they live and you unlocked all of their potentials btw

New Game+ is much easier anyway as you retain weapons/levels/orders from the first playthrough and can replay every mission as many times as you want

>>717216834
How do I get that ending?

>>717194103
Rushing is even stronger because now your scout can fucking ferry 2 shock troopers to the Frontline in one turn for 4 command points

>>717218409
…I already said how the true ending gets unlocked. You have to buy the onsen scene from the shop.

>>717219510
S-shop?

>>717218623
You take more damage though, IMO in VC4 you actuallty get to use the other classes more thoroughly. On VC1 i was just using Scouts and Snipers, on VC4 i finally had a use for Shocktroopers, while in VC1 i only used them for ambushes.

a tank just ran through a wall and instakill my cute sniper girl :(

>>717221232
Except for engineers. I only use them for gimmick missions.

>>717222759
Engineers are basically Scouts that you can disarm mines and fix stuff.
I usually leave one right next to a tank so i can fix it and kill Lancers.

>>717191807 (OP)
Once you realize how scouts are OP the game will stop being fun.
Enjoy it wile it lasts.

This way, Gallian man.

>>717194508
Based Raz

I like this sniper girl, she is cute

>>717223949
Invest on her, she gets some pretty good perks down the road.

Who else save scum every shot like me?
Headshot with a tank? That's PEAK

>>717191807 (OP)
-Some decent music.
-Atrocious anime brainrot story/characters.
-Interesting but broken gameplay (on almost every level, you can take the scout and just run him directly to the end and win instantly)

6/10

>>717218378
Damn. I didn't realize there was anything new in ng+. I just 100%ed VC1 with all A ranks earlier this year. Or I thought I did. Maybe I'll have to reinstall to play ng+

>>717226612
For what it's worth you unlock the new missions just by starting the game and you'll unlock the new character in Chapter 3 (whenever you're meant to explore headquarters for the first time).

The new character is a scout that's almost as OP as Alicia, while the missions are a mixed bag. The default hard skirmishes feel almost like a puzzle game, because all of the enemies have stupidly overpowered interception fire (stormtroopers doing like 50 damage per shot and inflicting damage down). You can still cheese most of them with Alicia but not all of them.

I also think the DLC extra hard skirmishes are locked behind NG+ as well, but I haven't tried them because beating the game + 100%ing on the second playthrough + beating the rest of the DLC was enough content for me.

this game would be better without the white vignette

>>717191807 (OP)
Greatness. Have fun

>>717191807 (OP)
Custom maps is where it’s at, but hardly anyone played them unless they were achievo autists.

>>717191807 (OP)
Bread.

>>717206948
This. It's unfortunate it was relegated to the psp.

>>717218303
And now not even Fire Emblem is in a good spot anymore after Engage

>>717191807 (OP)
Waffles.

>hmmm why is everyone saying shit about scouts being cheesy?
>camps can be taken by just walking up to the flag pole and you instantly take it
ah I see

>>717218303
Not really, it just needs a good plot. Just make the squad members more active during the main story and tighter as a group, and stop making the story so predictable. Fire Emblem reached it's peak in popularity when it was trying to be dark and edgy. The matchmaking was highly reduced in Three Houses compared to the 3DS era to the point you can't even directly choose the pairings.

>>717233359
If an enemy is in the camp you can't cap it, but the size of camps is all over the place. Sometimes there's only one enemy there, sometimes 3 or 4.

I do not care for KBash

>>717206948
Based.

>>717193798
>do not even bother with any of the sequels.
Valkyria Chronicles 3 is the best game in the series THOUGH

>>717194508
Raz has that RIZZ

>>717199526
mOST OF us didn't have a PSP...

>>717205696
>>717205774

OK that makes sense. Not really, but they could obviously bring 2 and 3 to the states in a remake, but that would only work if they bring interest back in the series.

>>717236797
They're pretty different from 1 and 4. At that point just make VC5.

>>717199814
Look man it's about the writing. A game should be allowed to have a love story between two defined characters. We don't need every Japanese game to be about fulfilling shipping/self insert fantasies.

>>717237420
Two love interests like 3 is the ideal

Playing VC1 right now, convenient timing for a thread. What are these binocular-looking things I sometimes get from post battle rewards? I can't find them in any equipment menus.
Also, I've used the same squad members for most of the game. Am I missing anything by not swapping around more?

>>717237968
>Also, I've used the same squad members for most of the game. Am I missing anything by not swapping around more?
No not really but there are a few hidden characters you can unlock by having some characters die

>>717204468
VC4 squad members have individual ranks based on kills. Ranking them up unlocks additional squad stories so you'd want to rotate them there.

>>717219601
Post game the medic girl opens a shop in the HQ menu that allows you to buy extra scenarios and other stuff. The memorial menu also allows you to revive dead characters including that one guy.

>>717223536
AI can't replicate Raita's banana tits....

>>717235262
Problem in VC1 is that they were not expecting scout rushes so a lot of camps deeper in the maps start unmanned.

>>717241958
>AI can't replicate Raita's banana tits....
oh yes it can, that's just cosplay

>>717233359
>more varied objectives besides capturing camps
>change the ranking system to reward more than just speed so you have to do other things besides Scout Rush if you want the money bonuses
>remove or heavily nerf the Orders that make units pretty much unkillable
There, now VC is actually a legitimate strategy game. I don't understand how they still didn't have this figured out by Game 4.

>>717244234
Bro... Bottom-right corner...

>>717241958
>AI can't replicate Raita's banana tits
Based Raita making unsloppable breasts.

>>717244860
I mean the AI generated a girl in cosplay

>>717244587
VC4 has nice variety though it's true the ranking is still turn based

>>717197057
>that writing
oh yeah, that's why I never play anime games

>>717223536
Tits not banana enough :(

>>717249858
that scout is giga based

the whole mechanic behind how orders work should be completely changed. You shouldn't be able to spam 7 orders every turn on one unit, or even one order every turn.
It should be a once per battle thing that turns the tide of battle around to power up your whole squad, and facing off against an enemy commander that has access to orders should make you shit your pants when they do use them against you.

>>717191807 (OP)
>what am I in for?
WEAK EMPIRE

i prefer the cute blonde girl with glasses that likes welkins,medic is cute too

>>717253927
>cute blonde girl with glasses that likes welkins
Which one?
>medic is cute too
The ones from VC1? Yep, Faina (and her 2 long lost sisters) is cute
I like her more as a pirate though

>>717254180
>which one
you have done the funny,it was Juno,also freesia and ramona are sex,almost forgot about Varrot.

>>717191807 (OP)
Play the game how it's intended and don't abuse Scouts and it'll be fun. I quite enjoyed it but 4 is much better balanced.

>>717191807 (OP)
Best girl that you cannot romance
Also >>717199139

>>717254496
> Juno
I don't think I ever used her

>>717255294
i have, a lot,before finding out the aliciaMETA

>>717216834
Undeserved and not worth getting, fuck these two.

>>717191807 (OP)
>what am i in for?
Love that blooms on the battlefield

Which game has the best squaddies?

>>717213248
I forget how much of a psycho the captain was. Didn't he try to get someone over their fear of blood by cutting his self?

>>717255152
Can't wait for Fire Emblem style reboot. I'm going to marry her :3

>>717257379
sex with sniper dorks

>>717193798
VC4 is better than VC1 in (almost) every way.

>>717193798
The only shitty VC game is VC2.
>but what about the spino-
There is no spinoff.

>>717216806
Sakura Wars died because the games were entirely carried by their extremely popular cast across the whole multimedia franchise, so when they retired every last one for 5 the popularity fell off a cliff and only the stage plays were successful so the franchise got put on ice
then Sega did it again 15 years later for Shin except this time they said “Remember that huge old cast you loved? They got off-screened and are now trapped in literal hell forever and you’re never going to see them again” and that’s just the opening cutscene of Shin without getting into its cast/story or the awful musou gameplay ripoff

>>717258420
Valkyria Chronicles 2 is good however.

>>717258668
>Remember that huge old cast you loved? They got off-screened and are now trapped in literal hell forever
sounds like a huge middle finger for its fans

>>717258736
oh shit, looks cool
It has gundam-tier bitch slaps?

>>717193104
Made to be claimed as a war prize and breed.

>>717193104
>every single one statuette of her is 350$+
Epic.

For me it was the Skies of Arcadia gang being playable units and literally NOTHING coming out of it.

>>717261513
That was pretty baffling. Just a few lines of flavor text.

>>717258736
I honestly didn't mind the military academy concept, but the gameplay was balls.

>>717194927
Greatest LGBT representation vidya.

>>717244587
The funny thing is that 4 really did figure it out and has some pretty nice tactical maps with varied objectives… in the postgame skirmish maps. The campaign is still mostly just capture the flag.

>>717195851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzvwJ91X9o

Every time

>>717256246
t. Minerva

>>717198053
>zero nipples.
Advertiser-sama , you MAY look

I feel fucking retarded right now is there some kind of hidden accuracy system for enemies in the first game? Ive lost 3 units to tanks with armor piercing rounds headshotting my units behind sandbags from across the map

>>717263910
Gameplay was as fine to me. The PSP games just look extremely ugly compared to 1 and 4 would be my complaint.

>>717267967
Yes the AI is cheating. Say hello to enemy mortars in 4 who outrange and out-accuracy anything your own grenadiers can throw at them.

I liked it

>>717270912
Imagine the smell.

Has anyone made use of
>Gallian Crossfire
>Imperial Onslaught V2
or any other mechanics focused mods that overhauled the ranking conditions? Some of them do way more though like adding kind of confusing limited ammo for every infantry unit setup, so it may be nice to JUST have the option to fix the rush-only A ranks.

>>717274086
nah armchair game devs always make a worse product than the original

>>717274194
I don't think that's necessarily true. People are complaining about some of the limitations in VC1 being biased toward the rush strategies, despite the game being designed in a way to suggest you should try to find enemy officers, tanks, and take out named and ace soldiers (the first two give you extra resources, the last drop special weapons though their utility isn't great until later etc) who are often hidden etc.. Fixing that isn't an unreasonable thing, no more than fixing some other balance issues like the time when it seems like the AI is cheating and/or there are deterministic outcomes (ie you reset and every single time the enemy shoots someone straight on; they never miss due to RNG the way you would).

Hell, some people claim to be bored after the original playthroughs so I can't be upset with very different overhauls even if I don't like all the features in one of them or another.

>>717257010
>best squaddies
Where else?

>>717274086
Has anyone made a mod like those for VC4?

Pull ponytail

VC seems like a series that is worse than the sum of its parts. Like on paper WWII, in an anime fantasy setting, with gameplay that is hybrid Turn Based/Real Time tactics, and with shooter mechanics to top it off, should make for a really cool and unique game with broad appeal. But all those things layered on top of each other are what probably contributed to an uncertain audience that was being aimed at, and those fans who did stick around have no shortage of complaints at the series’s tactical (or lack thereof) gameplay. If the series can’t escape niche appeal, then I think 4 games is a pretty good run, all things considered.

>>717275240
Sometimes it just be like that. Like on paper, Samurai Shodown should be the perfect fighting game that has broad appeal for casuals and vets alike since it's simple to learn, not combo heavy, but still has depth to it. Yet it's super niche and unpopular. Some games just don't have that magic X-Factor they need to take off outside of hardcore audiences.

>>717274581
VC1's turn order requirements are just weird as fuck, no consistency. 2 and 3 are fine, and 4 is too nice.

>>717192693
Retard can't even get the names right when lying. Alicia is a character in E33 not Valkyria Chronicals. There should be an IQ test before being allowed to post here

bait used to be believable

>>717276394
meds NOW

>>717274869
Not sure. Supposedly it has some technical improvements vs VC1, but I'd check over the Steam forums / guides to see what's listed

>no valkyria chronicles mod for hoi4
it hurts

>>717201576
IAM here with you anon IAM still stuck in the mission where the two evil lolis go insane and you have to defeat them

>>717191807 (OP)

Raita's GOD like powers

>>717277454
Play as independent Belgium for the same experience

>>717191807 (OP)
VC4 was better.

Story in both is very anime and retarded many times with bad writing, unfortunately, but second has better and more balanced gameplay and better side stories. First has better villains, tough.

>>717276394
Is this post AI generated?
It feels way too bizarre to be a genuine human attempt at trolling.

I had a startling revelation about an element of Riley’s character design recently. I guess it’s maybe for the best that her game was never that popular, because the shitposting probably would have been ugly because of it.

>>717277865
retards are failing the turing test while AI passes it
dark days ahead

>>717274086
>Gallian Crossfire
I used this one, some cool ideas but the dev can tongue my anus making the bunker guns one shot both the Edelweiss and the Shamrock with interception fire, absolutely retarded antifun.

>>717278130
I'm sorry I don't want to accept a living person could write something that retarded.

I love this series but I've yet to play 4.

>>717263910
VC2 was perfectly serviceable but my biggest problem with it was how much they were reusing the exact same 5 maps for 90% of the game.
The story missions had unique areas that were never seen in the game again besides maybe post game DLC.

VC3 had a ton of variety so it was excellent.

>>717277758
>no best girl
1v1 me fgt

>>717278108
What did he mean by this

>>717205554
>>717205648
>Japs don't understand the reality of war and combat because they haven't had to fight one for 75 years, which has turned them into 'peace & love' hippies

>>717278767
VC3 just had the benefit off building off VC2 and using all its maps besides like one?
It's been a while since I played either but I remember being amused and annoyed by VC3 re-purposing VC2's ingame multiplayer notification system but gutting the multiplayer completely.

>>717275096
only when you are balls deep in her ass

>>717279227
Missing multiplayer in 3 was a tragedy. I've played both co-op and versus in 2 and it was a lot of fun even if the games could last up to 40 minutes.

>>717249858
That game is so based. I can't count how many times I've coomed to Kai fat juicy ass.

>>717244938
Whore.

>>717279238
Sodomy is a sin

>>717278963
She’s a blonde white girl with spade motifs.
Shhhh

>>717191807 (OP)
You're in for a game that's really fun but also deeply flawed. The flaw is that the score system rewards speed over everything else which in turn leads to some extremely unrealistic tactics being by far the best ones (ie. belgian waffle woman winning the whole war by herself).
Still a fun game though, and well worth the few bucks it costs these days.

>>717192414
Aesthetics are the most important thing in all entertainment. Always have been, always will be, no matter how much a small minority of autists cries about it.

>>717279638
>>717279638
It would be murder or at least manslaughter in my case because with an ass like that my cock would literally explode like a cum grenade ripping her internals to shreds.

>>717241958
>AI can't replic-ACK!!

>>717280989
Now animate it

>>717281264
Yeah it's coom time. Brb

>>717281304
dont have enough vram for wan

>>717281320
Eyes on the objective, soldier.

How do I unlock generic troopers in 4? Is it literally just having to kill all the named characters?

>only VC and VC4 are on Steam
like... why

>>717278145
Did you try any of the updated ones? I think the Imperial Onslaught V2 is a major overhaul, but there's also a "Vanilla QoL" mod that makes smaller changes, given by the Steam Guides for each.

>>717283338
>VC2
Was designed for PSP and there it remains. Had a NA release with only horrid English voices. There is thankfully an Undub mod and one for its significant amount of DLC too. VC2 takes place after the time of VC1 and VC4, so definitely at least finish 1 first.
>VC3 Extra Edition
EE is the "better version" that include all the original's content and more It too was PSP based. Only for Japan though, never localized. There is a fan translation patch, but last I checked some of the text/lore/guide bits were the only ones not translated - all the core gameplay and mission stuff was.

Really we need remakes of both VC2 and VC3 EE that are made for modern hardware and release on Steam plus modern consoles - it would get Sega a fuckload of money if they fixed issues, added content, QoL etc.

>>717280989
Kind of curious which model did you use for that? I'd like to know which one is capable of being able to generate Raita banana boobs as a unique enough descriptor.

>>717279238
y e s

>>717195183
Japanese media has had gay and cross dressing shit since before the invention of the goddam Katana, you philistine. And the travesty is that they aren't allowed to make characters like that now without insane activists losing their shit and demanding that it fit exactly into blinkerd western standards, even on remakes, like Bridget and Vivian.

See this fucker? And he's not even a new design. He's based on a character from a 1970's manga, and loosely based on the Kabukimono semi vagrants from the edo period.

the weeb got mad lmao

>>717284115
pretty sure any illustrious-based model can gen raita good enough
I used this one
https://civitai.com/models/1217645/sih?modelVersionId=1976509

>>717192414
>>717191807 (OP)
Fire Emblem for men.
Better gameplay and units
Dogshit story tho

>>717285123
Neat. I'm so fucking far behind on this stuff. Looks like its originally based on Stable Diffusion but with a lot of additional training. Open source. Good to see. Can you just run it locally with the link you gave me or do you need other components to actually prompt and generate properly?

>>717284742
Literally says he likes bitches.

>>717285669
just put it in comfyui/forge/reforge/a1111 and you should be good to go

>>717285170
>better gameplay

>>717283338
I think it's pretty obvious why anon, 2 and 3 are not worth the effort for them to make PC ports for considering how poorly the series sells.

>>717285997
Fire emblem hasn't made a single upgrade to gameplay since the SNES games.

>>717286175
What an inane comment.
I'd actually give the nod to VC if it could figure out how to design maps that disincentivize a rush to a single goal point, something FE got by its 5th entry at the absolute latest. Maybe 5th time's the charm?

>>717285960
Thanks. Which of those do you think is the most full featured/usable/best at its job these days?

>>717286334
>What is missions with different objectives
Sorry pal. 1 flaw isnt enough to divert my attention from the gameplay being straight up superior

>>717286334
>maps that disincentivize a rush to a single goal point
You mean like in VC2 and VC3? You literally can't scout rush in them because the maps are split into segments.

>>717286589
It's a pretty huge fucking flaw. I don't know how you can pretend to care about gameplay and then dismiss it out of hand. It always kills my interest in these games at the halfway mark. But sure, if you ignore that one glaring, gaping, bleeding flaw, I guess it's fun to putz around in the maps with the slow, useless anti-tank shitters or something.

>>717286124
Its somewhat of a catch 22. The original VC1 sold amazingly well on PC - it was even a sleeper hit. They put out a tiny bit of effort to remaster and update it for PC, added all the DLC, and generally made it better than the PS3 and equal/actually better than the PS4 era remaster., sold it for cheap, and tons of people bought it when it was seen as missing the mark on console and only had niche appeal.

NOT having 2 and 3 on Steam was a major reason people didn't buy 4, thinking you needed to play 2 and 3 to "get" it, not that it was taking place at the same time as VC1 from a different perspective so you could play it independently or preferably after VC1. 2 and 3 were only on PSP and the latter not even in the US, so of course they sold badly and didn't generate a lot of interest. Had Sega decided to remaster or preferably remake VC2 and/or 3 before 4 released, it would have likely sold much better. Alternately, at very least dropping the 4 out of the name would have likely meant more sales as it wouldn't cut out those focused on the number etc.

>>717286651
Those are the only two games I remember having to really care about camp defense too. The movement system around these segmented maps was a good idea for gameplay that came out of PSP limitations.

>>717286746
Fire Emblem has big flaws too, like it not even being a strategy game anymore due to how fucking simple it became after abd including awakening for starters.
And the fact the devs care more about minigames where you touch your units or being a persona knockoff
Also the useless ass durability

>>717286998
Awakening was 13 years ago, nigger. Have you even played anything since then? What you're saying just makes no sense. The games have gotten absolutely autistic in how complicated they are since then, if anything.

>>717287157
Played Engage
was even simpler than The Sacred Stones lmao

>>717287292
Ironic shitposting, and all that

>>717287340
>No argument
I accept

>>717286527
out of the box? probably reforge. most people use either forge or comfyui

The game setting in terms of weapons is just plain weird. It is trying to be ww2 but infantry and tank roles are more like a weird ww1 mix.

>>717221232
Defense+interception damage down is more than enough for all content. Minerva being Alicia 2 but slightly worse more than makes up for it since she can ferry other units around

>>717287292
are you that dude who got filtered by the Alear ring mission on normal?

>>717287673
>Did you get filtered
I already said it's easy and simple
what kind of cope is this?

>>717286746
Well to be fair the gameplay itself is pretty engaging, or certainly can be. The action phases, active moving, the "interception" fire on both sides is a different sort of tactical gameplay vs Fire Emblem SRPG types. Its possible to enjoy both, but Valkyria has a unique combat style that isn't prevalent in Fire Emblem or XCOM or other types of games.

The larger game design issues (ie ranking that leads towards faster rushing vs gameplay that seems to suggest clearing the board to get all the aces, tanks, officers and other rares etc) is separate from the core mechanics I suppose, one can be good and the other an issue. That's why there are mods that change some of those design issues and otherwise fix things like making A ranks more permissive or enabling sniper counter-fire from the player side not just the enemy side. Some appear to be way, way more granular and make other changes for good or bad but thats the thing about mods you use what you wish.

>>717287738
Saying its easy and simple would be believable, claiming its simpler than Sacred Stones makes you a lying faggot who probably couldn't beat the game, so i wondered if you were that retard on gamefaqs everyone made fun of.

*ahem*
Sex with with Wendy.

That is all.

>wake up
>see this
what do

>>717287534
If VC5 will be made one day they should add anti-tank drones

>>717288397
Cum and ask her to marry me

>>717288468
Tanks are already a joke anon

>>717288061
I actually really like the core VC gameplay, and think it *could* be amazing in a game with more tightly balanced mission design. Not many games play like VC, with its movement and tactical focus trumping raw power, it's a gem in that sense. I'm endlessly frustrated by how the maps are defeated by the game mechanics in the lamest way possible, though. The most recent breaking point for me was in VC4, it was that mission where you do a mock battle in city streets. Just to see if I could get away with it, I scout rushed with Minerva and it finished the mission in like 2 minutes, and it just fucking destroyed the game's image in my mind permanently. Haven't picked it up since.
I think they need to stop with the shared action pool, for one thing. It's crazy to be able to keep moving the same unit over and over again until you run out of actions- almost no tactics game allows this, for good reason. Apparently the VC devs worked on Hundred Line which had a similar system, and that game had THE worst SRPG gameplay I've ever experienced. Genuinely nauseating.

>>717288468
I wanna play as an Empire commander so i can larp as a Zigger.

>>717206948
VC1 is the only great game in the series. The appeal of VC was in how it was largely playing around with Western WW2 cliches through a Japanese looking glass. VC2's immediate pivot to just being pure weebshit sheds the only real cool appeal of the series. And while 3 undos some of the insane cost saving production value gutting for the PSP 2 does, what you're left with is slightly less broken but still bad TRPG gameplay and cliche weeabooism with no heart to the series.

PS, I played 3 before the translation patch existed. So spare me the lecture on my supposed just not liking weebshit. The problem is as pure gameplay and pure weebshit, nu VC isn't a good example of either.

>>717288945
VC1's gameplay is honestly pretty good if you don't use orders to cheat.

>>717289078
It's not like orders help in 1 and 3's post-game. You use defense order, enemies have def down, whoo.
>>717289075
You eat doodoo, 3 is great. Waifus are the best part, too.

>>717289294
just saying you can't scout rush missions about destroying tanks without orders.

>everyone saying these games are easy
>Ive lost the bridge mission twice
I dont understand why these tanks are so... tanky, and how they can somehow headshot dome my soldiers from across the map. Meanwhile my soldiers cant hit the broadside of a barn

>>717289439
Learn positioning your troops.

>>717289439
You are trying to use Lancers like they are shown off by the game or the enemy and forget that, use it like a Melee class and shove it up the tanks ass until your accuracy is better later. Also aiming for the treads is a meme.
Alternatively give a scout/shocktrooper penetration order if you have that and shoot it in the ass lol.

>>717289294
>It's not like orders help in 1 and 3's post-game
Are you retarded? The best anti tank strategy even in post game is shocktropers with penetrate

>>717289684
Of course I forgot possibly the best way to deal with them, ignore them unless they are on top of the final camp of the map. :)

>>717289684
>shove it up the tanks ass until your accuracy is better later.
Perfect job for Jann

>>717289439
>Bridge mission
I legitimately don't even remember that mission. What are you talking about

>>717191807 (OP)
I have it but I never installed it. I played one on xBone and it was horrible. Revolution or something.

>>717289990
You got extremely unlucky and stumbled onto the worst game of the series, like, so bad it barely gets mentioned in VC threads

>>717289727
I don't know why you lot are so fixated on fucking tanks, the post-game challenge is interception fire. As for your shocktrooper thing, do you mean non anti-armor weapon + penetrate + shoot weak point? Tanks are fat though.

>>717290134
>in the series
It's not even a spin-off. I didn't play it though, everyone shat on it back when, so.

>>717261513
Is SoA worth playing?
I remember Vyse being one of my MVPs in VC1 way back in the day.

>>717289439
Wait are you talking about the 4th mission? The tank blows fucking ass until late game and even then it is mediocre at best. Leave the tank at the start so it doesn't get abused and ganked. If you are on PC and your FPS is above 60 cap it. If you are a bitch cap it at 30

>>717290331
It's a grindy as fuck jarpig no matter what version you play, bit it is a classic.

>>717289990
Revolution was on games for gold a long time ago so probably it. As the other anon said it was a spinoff so bad it almost killed segas interest in the series

>>717290331
It is fun and charming

>>717289990
It’s kinda funny how 4 is the only one of the main entries that’s on Xbox. Who are these people? Why are they fighting? Idk, but I had fun with it at least.

>>717291878
4 is an original story set before any of the other games, so you shouldn't be confused about any of that.

>>717292227
Do you want to be insulted?

>>717292227
1, 3, 4 all take place at the exact same time in the same war.
2 is after.

>>717291878
None of 4's major characters are from previous games lol

>>717292346
Anon is maybe technically yet partially correct because 4 does begin before every other game.

>>717292276
I want Kai to insult me.

>>717292276
>>717292346
okay, so what events from 1 matter to 4 but aren't explained in the story? what characters from 1 show up in 4's story?

I'm glad I managed to get an old selvaria figure for a pretty good price. they keep making figures of her, but they're always super slutty and out of character, the old ones are the only good ones

When has this series not been considered dead?
>VC1 bombed
>VC2 bombed
>VC3 bombed
>VC Duel I assume bombed but no idea and don't care
>VC1 released on PC, gained massive popularity here but was sold at $20
>VC Revolution liquid diarrhea
>VC4 bombed

>>717293296
>super slutty and out of character
lol. Selveria would do fucking ANYTHING Max asked her to. slutty isn't out of character for her at all.

>>717293503
I thought VC1's initial release did well?

>>717293503
>VC1 bombed
wrong on the first point, you'd make a great lancer with that accuracy.

>>717293538
I mean sure, but max also just thought of her as a tool and wouldn't tell her to put on a bunny suit and pose with a rifle

>>717293538
>Selveria would do fucking ANYTHING
and yet that fag ordered her to literally kill herself
At least Welkin knew how to treat his valkyria properly

>>717293735
yeah, it's kind of amazing that Welkin of all people was the one that decided to relentlessly breed his Valkyria, although that's probably mostly Alicia pinning him down and riding him until she pops out a football team.

Stop dissing my man Welkins

>>717294170
>nonexistent personality. acts like every self insert beta male high school anime protagonist
>only gets recruited to the army because his daddy used to be important
>spends 5 minutes fighting like a real man and soldier
>spends the entire rest of the game inside a tank like a fucking coward
>his team does the majority of the work for him
>didn't manage to end the war. just discourages others from attacking his country specifically
>nature nerd everyone kept pushing inside lockers in high school
>Selvaria decided to go NUCLEAR because of losing to a squad with an officer so fucking lame
>instead of handholding, hugging, marrying, nakadashing, and impregnating his precious Jewish sister he instead lets her die like fucking retard
>falls for annoying dirty low life monkey peasant who would suck cocks in the woods if she didn't know how to bake her BREAD (she WILL remind you about it many times)

he's TRASH. fucking Faldio feels more like an actual protagonist than him

>>717295016
this sounds like propaganda and lies made up by Largo,begone and stay in the background while Alicia gets everything done

>>717294170
i will bully the shit out of him. he can take it, he has THIS waiting at home for him.

>>717295016
Faldio killing himself at the end of the game was retarded and Alicia got flanderized so hard with the bread shit after 1.

>>717295016
Agreed. Every Jewish little sister deserves pure love from her brother.

>>717195851

JAN THE FUCKIN' "I CAN GO ANOTHER ROUND" MAN


So goddamn based.


>>717249614

VK1 is much more tame and grounded. 4 is retarded, I couldn't finish it personally. Gameplay is still good though.

>>717295293
She mogs the VC4 blonde slut so hard.

>>717296213
other VC4 girls mog the VC4 blonde hard. the redhead and the sniper chick are both way better.

It sucks we don't even get any other games with an anime military look

>>717296493
Also true

>>717298234
sad truth
we need more non-gacha anime girls in military uniforms

>>717193783
someone should tell sega they can put Kiryu in VC, maybe that would make them want to make another one.

How is VC3?

I played 1 at launch and loved it. I enjoyed 4 but not as much as 1. Skipped 2.

>>717299705
As someone who played VC2, I enjoyed it, but you might get turned off by segmented maps.
In terms of mood it's a little more serious than VC2 but don't let the edgy looks and seemingly serious 'penal squad' premise fool you: there's still plenty of wacky anime stuff. It even has a girl swinging a massive sword-slash-gun and a girl with a massive scythe-like lance, that's as anime as they come.
You can pick between two waifus, something this series has never had before.
Overall it's okay.

>>717296493
I've not played 4 yet. Are there any choices for which the protag can get into a relationship with or at least branching paths/flirting etc? Some anon mentioned that the redhead is the one that was chosen, not the blonde. The "catgirl" sniper seemed to be one of those that was desirable but not sure if she was an option or not.

>>717299548
....this could work , especially with some sort of later generation VC2/VC3 hand to hand combat classes. Let Kiryu punch a tank into oblivion ORAORAORAORA style as a guest character an then strike a pose.

I bought the game when it came out on steam and I've used one of the profile icons that came with it ever since.

>>717300931
You have been misinformed. You will take your vanilla, and you will like it.

>>717301009
a kamurocho DLC map could be fun too.
I'm picturing Kiryu having massively reduced damage from enemy bullets when he's its his turn, so he can just walk up to a shocktrooper and punch them out.

>>717301123
honestly completely forgot she exists, i need to go back and finish 4.

>>717280989
yeh you don't even need loras anymore for raita, though it can help if you want a certain one of his styles

VC is so weird
It feels like something that should be an ongoing, niche yet profitable franchise ALA Pre-0 Yakuza or Ace Combat, yet instead it died in 4 games(3 of them in the same conflict) with zero fanfare.

>>717305081
Probably because the second and third games were bad and on the psp, which was never popular in the US.

>>717305081
Sega just doesn't know how to manage small IPs, they got really lucky with Yakuza. VC is a series that should have a small dedicated team, and it would do reasonably well.

So why is there only 1 and 4 available?
What happened to 2 and 3?

>>717307853
PSP shovelware

>>717307952
Ah I see.
What a shame.

>>717305543
I really want to see leena's ass and thighs absorbing the shock from the recoil when shooting her sniper like that scene in highschool of the dead.

>>717293503
I thought vc4 sold over a million copies? For a game that essentially reused vc1 assets and engine i think it didn't cost too much to make. Certainly had to be more profitable than the psp titles.

>>717293275
Excluding dlc i don't think any. They're on opposite sides of the conflict geographically so I don't think that much intersects as they're largely independent of each other.

Do I have to emulate 2 and 3?
I only see 1 and 4 on steam

>>717289075
What about 4? I'm also curious what people thought of revolution. I know it's bad but can someone explain or quantify just how bad it was? I think that's the title raita had no involvement with.

>>717308360
PSP only, so yes.

>responding to a 20 hour old post
>>717235262
The real thing that makes them cheesy is that scouts also have grenades so you can knock enemies out from camps without having to actually kill them.

I only played 1 and 4. Are lancers ever useful? I usually skip upgrading those and basically never use them in squads. Grenaders especially are a way better unit.

>>717308398
Are they connected, or is every game self-contained?

>>717308509
They're connected but you don't need to play any of them to understand what goes on since they're mainly separate events from each other.

>>717308416
Haven't played 4, but in 1 they have blastproof armour so you can use them to facetank minefields without having to expose an engineer. They can also blow up barricades from long range, and some maps have gun emplacements that they can also snipe.

>>717308509
2 is a sequel set after every game.
The other 3 all take place at the same time.

test

How comfy is this game as in, do I have to overthink too much for strategy? Or can I play it more casually?

>>717309047
See flag? Capture flag.

>>717309047
It's uncomfy. It has permadeath and very low time to kill.

>>717309518
>permadeath
you can resurrect your units before they are gone for good pretty easily

>>717310315
Only on player phase. If they die in the wrong spot on enemy turn they'll move over and kill the body.

>>717191807 (OP)
Best girl dying
An understanding that a map editor could have improved this franchise
A great big retread of plot elements from BoB set in an anime-esque lense
Unrepentant wehrabooism
And an understanding the Edelweiss is the second best-girl

>>717193798
What the fuck is all this VC4 revisionism?
It's mechanically the best in the franchise and it did NOT kill the franchise, it was an extremely lucky last hurrah for a franchise that was already dead

>>717194398
He was sort of ordered to stop, though

for better or worse, optimizationmaxxing turns the game into a puzzle rather than a strategy game
I think mario x rabbids was the optimized progression path the series should have followed, but alas

It's been ages since I played this game, but I vividly remember hating that there was an out of place super saiyan lady. Would have been better off as a straight played alternate World War 2 story.

>>717310826
No, she's literally the most popular character in the whole franchise. Hell, she's more popular than the series itself.

>>717310471
>Over extending that hard
You deserve it

>>717310826
can't really argue with you there. if Selveria wasn't a 10/10 design she'd be the worst part of VC. would love a game that's just VC without the magic, i love the WW1 aesthetic for equipment.

>>717310826
Sir go fuck yourself. Selvaria might be the greatest video game female of all time

>>717309118
Actual concussive blasts from pounding her fat ass

>>717237968
The binocical looking things are tank equipment
Go customize your tank!!

>>717310826
Pretty gay opinion
There are plenty of WW2 simulators
Overpowered Valkyries are unique and great
Plus I really their battle theme when they transform, it is hype af

>>717311363
>There are plenty of WW2 simulators
name one other tactical RPG set in either World War, bonus points if it has anime girls.

>>717298928
Based beyond belief

>>717311594
Running with Rifles and the Valkyria Chronicles-inspired story mod for it

>>717311795
not a tactical RPG, but it does look like a neat game.

>>717311594
>, bonus points if it has anime girls.
You need to decide if you want realism or anime girls
you can't have both

>>717311795
There is a VC mod for RwR?
Cool

>>717311594
Operation Victory for Graviteam Tactics: Mius Front features anime girls and is very tactical

>>717311594
not anime styled but Silent Storm is also a tactical game that takes place in fantasy WW2, although it takes itself a bit more seriously than VC

>>717311917
>>717311898
Not exactly 1:1, mostly just military girls. Versinian Glory is what I remember it being called if it's still up. Unfortunately the bulk of whatever lore it has is locked in a discordtroon server.

>>717311908
Okay, i choose anime girls. what kind of stupid question is that? if i wanted realism i'd probably want something that looks like Call of Duty. I just like the WW1 aesthetic, bolt action rifles and stick grenades are cool as fuck. I don't mind mystical bullshit, but when people throw away their guns for a big glowing lance i have an issue with it because it ruins the aesthetic.

>>717312258
Anon, in this series the rocket launchers are lances.

>>717312196
Nevermind, it has its own little website. https://virsenianglory.com/

>>717312332
you're really gonna try and tell me with a straight face that you don't see the aesthetic difference between the lancers rockets and Selveria's Valkyria lance?

Are Darcsens the true master race?

>>717311972
>>717312185
>>717312196
sounds cool, will have to check them out.

>>717312368
I take it back it's a troon project.

>>717309445
I was so disappointed with 4, Minerva would have been a much better love interest.
Riley was insufferable, I don't care if it's spoilers I am gonna "ruin" it. The reason Riley hates Claude at the start of the game was because when they were elementary school kids elite Imperial soldiers came to kill her dad and Claude hid her instead fighting off an entire battalion of elite soldiers with his bare hands as child.
The whole game she calls him weak and cowardly because of that.

I'm not exaggerating, it's that stupid.

>>717312562
No, meanwhile the Valkyrurs literally have Aryan superpowers; its literally a gameplay mechanic that they are the master race
Dark hairs on the meantime die just like everyone else, with the addition of them canonically smelly gross and being oily all the time, as well as tragically dying from a single bullet in a cutscene

>>717313115
She was based
Hatred doesn't have to be rational; I'm glad they never really reconciled and she was 100% right Claude should have redeemed himself by pulling the nuke button

>>717310315
And you can just buy them back in the postgame.
>how my units feel every time I send them on a stupid suicide charge because I need to complete the map in one turn:

Who else /neverressurectanyone/ here?
If they fall it's over

>>717313115
You’re exaggerating a fair bit. It’s not the entire game, it’s like one or two missions at most before she chills out. In fact you can make fun of the writing for that point instead.
>I have deep seated childhood trauma and vow to never forgive you EVAR!!1!
>Oh hey you won cool Claude guess I was wrong :)

>>717312518
It's suppose to be different, it's ancient technology. They are just a metaphor for nukes.

>>717313720
yeah, glowing lances are no more ridiculous than huge mobile fortresses and other uberwaffen
Selvaria does not even use it all that often

IRL equivalent of ragnade?

>>717314585
That level where you have to fight your way up to and then on top of the giant tank was really fucking good

Just unlocked the Naggiar skirmish. Is it intended that my tanks can't make it out of the ditch they start in? I can get almost 70% of the way out before I lost all momentum and slide back down.

when is sega going to remove denuvo from 4 so I can buy it? it's been 7 fucking years and the game has been on sale for under $10. surely piracy is a non-concern at this point.