Thread 717192690

what are you mad about anon?

It's actually the opposite. Gustave was only a placeholder/decoy for the real protagonists Verso and Maelle.

>>717192690 (OP)
Was he really just some dude or did Clea paint him to help Maelle? Him being like a brother/father to her seems too coincidental

>>717192974
Just some dude, Clea told Verso to look after her.

>>717192690 (OP)
>Gustave would have been the magical middle path ending!!!!
Gustave wouldn't accomplish shit

>>717193302
He would have bitchslapped Maelle and told her to go home, the whole canvas be damned.

>>717193367
>gustave would totally have wanted to die and everybody he ever knew because I view him as a meaningless NPC therefore that's what he is
That's some deep insight - into how dumb you are.

>>717194050
>basically admits that he'd put her wellbeing before the whole city in act 1
Actually play the game.
If it comes to her killing herself or saving the city, he'd stop her from killing herself.

>>717193367
Gustave has zero sway over Maelle, it's the other way around. See his total freak out when it's just him and Lune. He finally calms down when he's reunited with Maelle. He'd go with whatever Maelle wanted to do, even if he'd mope about it at first.

>>717194157
>mission parameters taking a back seat to the state of a loved one means he'll doom his sister, apprentices and the people he helped back in the city because the gods say he isn't worth anything
take your own advice

>>717192690 (OP)

Verso had a style gauge. Gustave had no style, grace or natural masturbation hand.

>>717192974
The current headcanon is that Alicia subconsciously created Gustave as her perfect mentor figure, similarly how she subconsciously created Maelle as the idealized version of herself.

>>717196681
This makes absolutely no sense since Gustave and his family are older than Maelle.

>>717196681
No. Lumiere citizens were separate beings from the base Canvas. It's also interesting how they were growing powerful enough to defy their god. Makes you wonder how far they could go to break the rules of Canvas.

>>717192690 (OP)
It is ok because that guy who died wasn't real to begin with.

>>717192915
Gustave is the true hero because his lumina converter is what allowed the cast to absorb chroma to level up and imprint the effect of pictos without actually equipping them. Maelle being able to share some of her power in the form of the painted power picto was only possible thanks to the Lumina converter
>but expedition 60
They relied on muscle power alone to bruteforce their way to the paintress, and ultimately they failed when they had to face an adversary they couldn't just wrestle to the ground and choke to death with their hard biceps.

>>717192690 (OP)
That's more meaning than any random person is born with, what meaningless thing that the devs thought would carry emotional weight

>>717192915
But it's not the real Verso.
That verso is both a replacement for the real Verso who died, as well as an in-game replacement for a loved character who died.
It's a bit meta

I still have no idea how they are planning to make a sequel without it feeling cheap or derivative.

>>717199167
Conpletely different universe. Otherwise yeah

>>717198478
Are they really defying her? It seems to me like the Paintress doesn't even know anyone is trying to kill her. The painted people are like gnats to her and the Curator. Expedition 0 is the only one that even made it to her, and that was an entirely different mission and probably before Clea painted the Nevrons. 60 made it furthest but realized the Curator is the true evil. Aline was too preoccupied schizoing out and playing chess against her husband to even realize anyone was defying her.

>>717199428
But what is the sequel even going to be about? It feels like they have already put every "serious theme " they could think of into E33.

>>717192690 (OP)
>Allows Gustave to die through inaction
>Inserts himself into the party
>Fucks both of Gustave's female friends
>Gets depressed and kills himself and destroys the world
Wow.

>>717192690 (OP)
why did everyone in the canvas not break down when they found out everything including their lives is fake?

>>717194534
>Gustave has zero sway over Maelle, it's the other way around. See his total freak out when it's just him and Lune.
Gustave acted the way he did in the beginning of act 1 because he got completely demoralized seeing his squad slaughtered immediately after stepping off the boat. He's not a warrior, he's an affable and idealistic nerd with some combat training. He shifted priorities to saving Maelle because that's the one thing he felt was in his power to do. After reuniting with Maelle and powering up a bit, he starts to get hope that the mission is doable, he isn't just tagging along for Maelle's sake.

>>717198776
>lumina converter is what allowed the cast to absorb chroma to level up
Nope.

>>717202023
Because it doesn't make a difference. Would you break down if you found out God was real and he created you?

>>717202023
Fake steak tastes good, nigga.

>>717202623
>Would you break down if you found out God was real and he created you?
If he is revealed to be the benevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient Creator described in the Bible, then no. If it's Pickle Rick, then the Vatican is going up in flames.

Why did Gustave fuck Lune, but never Sciel?

>>717202391
>Nope.
Then why doesn't Verso join at level 99? One hundred years of helping expeditions and his level is at best in the mid 30s. Whether you agree that Lumina converter is what allows leveling or not doesn't change the fact that it makes leveling up significantly easier by allowing people to share and stack pictos.

>>717203439
>Why did Gustave fuck Lune, but never Sciel?
Whose to say they didn't? I imagine the people in Lumiere are pretty laissez faire about casual sex, since the worst that can happen is the woman gets pregnant and there's one more person to aid future expeditions. There's an established and well funded orphanage that takes in all children regardless of their circumstance. The biggest whore in Lumiere who has the most children from unprotected sex probably gets a medal.

>>717203459
Why do you get exp from sparring matches? Why does Maele join at level 5 and Sciel at level 15? How did other expeditions manage to get to mid/late game areas at level 1? Could it be that levels are just a gameplay mechanic?

>>717203809
>https://youtu.be/6hedzEBRQ9o?t=9
Idk, I just get No Way Fag energy from him about her.

>>717194534
>See his total freak out when it's just him and Lune
He freaked out when it was just him, and he thought literally everyone else was dead, looking at a pile of corpses of people he knew. He calmed down when he saw Lune because he knew there was still hope.

>>717202669
>Maellefags would choose to stay in the Matrix because it feels good
Perfect comparison.

>>717193302
If the characters aren't actually any stronger than they were when they landed on the beach then how were they able to beat canvas Renoir?

>>717204475
>how were they able to beat canvas Renoir?
Painted Renoir was winning, but then real Renoir showed up and MOGGED him.

>>717204475
Because of the device Gustave made that lets them master and share the special powers. Before that, each of them could only be used by a single person, and people could only equip one of them. Gustave's Lumina Converter gave their expedition a massive power boost.

>>717204640
Yea but it wasn't a one sided slaughter unlike the beach or when Gustave wasn't able to even hurt him

>>717205102
They had Verso this time.

>>717205235
Monoco*

>>717205535
Yeah because of Verso.

>>717204323
I got the vibe that they had fucked already when Gustave and Sophie were separated, because there's no reason to believe Gustave and Lune were anything more than a casual fling due to her own character flaw of keeping people at arms reach and his obsession with Sophie. Gustave probably fucked a lot of women to cope with his breakup, and he's an attractive, smart, and affable guy, so there would have been no shortage of women willing to share a bed with him. That flower girl at the start absolutely had sex with him. When Gustave reconected with Sophie he was no longer on the market and didn't want to have any more casual sex until he properly grieved her. Sciel was giving signals, but I like to believe she wasn't gonna press him until way later, she was just laying the groundwork.

>>717204170
The converter allows you to turn the Chroma into stats. The other expeditions just stuck pictos onto their bodies permanently. And those that made it further managed it because they avoided Renoir at the starting beach so they had more members.

>>717205102
Gustave did hurt him. Not much, but he did and Renoir was surprised by it.

>>717200006
Gustave already banged them both prior to the game's events.

How brown are Lune's nipples?

>>717206573
Didn't someone clip through the models and reveal nipple color, or am I thinking of Stellar Blade?

>>717206573
choccy dark brown and small

>>717194050
>>gustave would totally have wanted to die
But no one would have ever needed to die if Maelle had genuinely just fucked off and never returned to the canvas.
It was her refusal to do so that necessitated its destruction.

Gustave could have probably have convinced Maelle to have a non-insane relationship with the canvas or even leave it behind entirely.

>>717206573
they're orange. like an orange.

Realistically, what chance does she have at life while looking like this? She'll probably just keep being a neet

>>717212768

realistically, she can devote her time to making her own canvases, like her family does

now to what end do the painters make paintings aside from expression / playing god in those worlds?
who tf knows