Thread 717194803

Tonight.

>>717194803 (OP)
>implying anyone wants to announce a new fighting after Tokon got announced

CvS2 blows, this would be the biggest snoozefest announcement ever

No hate on anyone who enjoys fighting games but I just find it hard to enjoy them as an older person. I played a load of them as a kid and teens but once I got to my 20s fighting games seemed boring and pointless as they became a try hard thing targets at esports people instead of casuals.

>>717195446
Fighting games have always been competitive, anon. I used to have tournaments with just my friends and we had a blast trying to best each other. Plus you can still play fighting games casually but I get if you're just not into them anymore.

>>717194803 (OP)
Just make KoF13 vs 3rd Strike

>>717195279
>my opinion is complete trash and worthless so im gonna post it anyways

>>717196561
You would have to make higher fidelity sprites for 3rd strike at least, but yeah I'll take that.

>>717194803 (OP)
Capcom are such pussies for still avoiding Darkstalkers.

>>717197095
They avoid it because the players avoid it.

>>717198135
I dunno man. Didn't darkstalkers get a lot of people to buy the first capcom fighting collection? I have no clue, but that's what made me buy it.

>>717198517
The first collection sold far less than the following two.

How's the capcom fighting collection 2? Thinking of picking it up with the new update.

>>717195446
I am the opposite where as I got older I just wanted "pure games" that were just about their main function with no interfering bullshit. No leveling up, getting better gear, unlocking new moves or upgrades, etc. But now I am forced to not play fighting games because of fucked up hands. I can never again play fast games or anything button mashy. After personal research (been finding out that most doctors are scary useless) I probably have something called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

>>717198135
>release the same fucking game for decades over multiple collections, never do anything brand new
>lol why people no like old thing?
fucking retard capcom logic

>>717199708
>Oh man I love Darkstalkers so much!
>But not enough to buy it or play it.

>>717199983
I already own it numbnuts, why would I buy it yet again for $40+tip

>>717195446
The whole esports scene is cringe as fuck but don't think it's fair to conflate fighting games with that. There are fighting games chasing that audience but there are still plenty of fighting games made for a more general audience.
And of course obviously anything that features pvp is going to have some number of try hards grinding it out. Pokemon is the most babyfied, casual RNG heavy shit game possible and it still has people that unironically grind that shit out like it's a real competitive game.

>>717194803 (OP)
Nobody actually wants Capcom vs SNK 3.

Think about it - If they were to make CVS3, that means it would be developed by Capcom and their track record of fighting games since SFIV have been dogshit. They can't even put together a decent port for their arcade fighting game collections. SNK on the other hand has proven they can still make solid games for hardcore fans and go out of their way to show love to all of their series.

What you REALLY want is SvC Chaos 2.

>>717194803 (OP)
only if it is ryu vs kyo

>>717198135
avoid this

you arent going see a new capcom fighting game that isnt street fighter for the rest of your life.

>>717203020
We'd sooner see Tekken x Street Fighter

>>717196785
CvS2 is a legitimate kusoge

every day i hold on to hope that we'll get that Tatsunoko stops being a bunch of stingy faggots and lets us have another Tatsunoko vs Capcom or Tezuka vs Capcom

>>717194957
>capeshit
i sleep

>>717198823
I see, thanks. Yeah I feel the hype for fighting collection 2 was higher than the first. Still, I never check numbers I just wait for some matches now and then and feel I find people so. Figured it sold a little at least.

>>717194803 (OP)
all the main announcements were out already.
>Izumi in UNI2
>Lucy in Strive/Strive 2.0/S5 confirmed.
>Foot fetish dude and creepy lesbian in GBVSR
>C.Viper for SF6
>Ken for COTW
>Tokon closed beta exclusive to the PS5.
>Mortal Kombat Trilogy (PS1/PC version, no N64...yet.) in MKLK.

no one, much less capcom since Sf6 is their main game for this generation until 2030, is announcing a new game.

>>717197095
They probably know they'd ruin it, I doubt Darkstalkers would look good in 3d, and hardly anyone makes sprite fighters anymore

>>717205106
Yeah, Capcom learned pretty decisively like, 12-14 years ago that they weren't gonna internally compete with themselves on the home market. Infinite was the last time they were gonna push out a game other than Street Fighter, and it was solely to capitalize on the MCU, and even then it's a known fact that neither them nor Disney committed to it too hard and gave it a budget more equivalent to a single season of DLC, rather than full game production.

SNK would have to be the one to make it, and I have a sneaking suspicion they're gonna be scaling things back after the numbers COTW pulled in. Ken and Terry crossing over between the two games is the best people are ever gonna get ever again.

>>717194803 (OP)
>CvS 3
>made by current day Capcom
Literally, literally why would people even want this?
Look at Street Fighter Dix. That's the visual and gameplay quality you could expect from this thing.

>>717205663
Releasing 2 games every 7-8 years instead of 1 isn't competing with yourself.

>>717206870
Yes, now go and convince a bunch of suits of that.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2025/aug/03/closed-beta-test-marvel-tokon/

>The devs plan continued support for Tokon during the next 10 years.

Ha... Haha.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
HA!

>>717207103
Capcom already shits out a new monster hunter or RE every 5 minutes. Its not like they care about flooding the zone. If they are concerned about Darkstalkers having weak brand power then just rename the series to Streetfighter: Night Warriors and put in a couple cameos like zombie nash or blanka who fit with the theme.

>>717206870
I mean, it kinda is. When you're wanting to sell high return $30 and $50 season and ultimate passes for a game for 7-8 years, you really don't want people to say "well instead I can just spend the extra $10-$30 and just get a whole other Capcom fighting game instead." Not to mention all the costumes MTX and shit; not only do you want people to feel like this is THE game for a while and thus won't be wasting their money (even though they still are) on MTX and shit, but there has to be a non-zero number of people that paid for costumes solely because the characters they represent are no longer in any other modern fighting game.

And that's before you get to how circuits are the life blood of these games. You don't want to be splitting up the players in that regard either

>>717207896
>Capcom already shits out a new monster hunter or RE every 5 minutes
Damn, it's almost like there's more of a problem with releasing too many of one game of a genre compared to another.

>>717207896
>Capcom already shits out a new monster hunter or RE every 5 minutes.
Monster Hunter and Resident Evil do not compete with each other, and every MH or Resident Evil game they make is the only one in their genre for a couple of years. They also print much more money than fighting games.
The Wilds G-rank expansion might not do so well because even Capcultists cannot shill Wilds hard enough to make up for the abhorrently shit performance issues and lack of content, but the main point here still stands.

>>717208973
>Monster Hunter and Resident Evil do not compete with each other
thats obviously not the point im making. MH rise and MH world did compete with each other, they dont care. RE 7/8 and RE remakes also compete on some level, they also dont care. They shit out those games and expansions almost yearly.

>>717208078
>it's almost like there's more of a problem with releasing too many of one game of a genre compared to another.
There evidently isn't because other studios are simultaneously selling huge numbers of fighting games in the fighting game sub genres capcom invented. Capcom was completely retarded in the past and was shitting out new fighting games every few months instead of spacing them out over a number of years .

Calling it now
Disney vs Capcom 4

>>717194957
>remove the cool street fighter characters and being developed by ACK slopworks
Yeah no

>>717209713
>other studios are simultaneously selling huge numbers of fighting games
Other studios are being commissioned to do work + rely more on it than Capcom does, or are getting saudi money, dumbass. They also don't have the size (or expected thereof) productions and major circuit presence of Capcom. Like damn, maybe stop and consider that the most consistently and massively successful fighting game devs with decades of experienced have figured out what works for them specifically and that trying to go
>what about this game
>what about this dev
is just gonna be bringing up shit that doesn't actually apply

>>717210067
Everything ArcSys has made this decade looks, sounds and plays better than the Street Fighter parody Capcom gave us.

>>717209239
>MH rise and MH world did compete with each other
They didn't. That was the whole point of Monster Hunter Rise: to target the Switch, which wasn't capable of running MonHun World, and thus get more copies sold without competing against their golden goose. Rise only hit other platforms 1-2 years after release to minimize impact. You are being a complete retard even before getting to the fact that these games """competing""" with each other affects each other in entirely different and non-issue ways than with fighting games.

>>717210437
>Other studios are being commissioned to do work + rely more on it than Capcom does
irrelevant, 10 million DBFZ VS sales is 10 million sales, Capcom wants that whether its their own ip or a crossover.
> They also don't have the size (or expected thereof) productions and major circuit presence of Capcom
irrelevant, its actually stranger that arcsys is more prolific despite having a fraction of the budget.
>with decades of experienced have figured out what works for them
Capcoms shift to their new attitude on fighting games only happened in the last decade, prior to this it was a completely different model. They have no idea what works in the modern era and its completely schizophrenic because its based on how the wider company is doing.

>>717210801
>1-2 years after release
thats the point you idiot, you release a game that technically competes years after and it no longer matters.

"Street Fighter" 6 is getting FOUR (4) characters per year and barely any significant balance changes, and you want Capcom to manage a second fighting game on top of that.

>>717211391
>you release a game that technically competes years after and it no longer matters.
Exactly, WHICH IS WHY CAPCOM SPACES FIGHTING GAMES OUT 7-8 YEARS, DUMBASS
THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR IT TO NO LONGER MATTER FOR CAPCOM FIGHTING GAMES
Fucking hell, how is it so hard to understand when you're reading right in front of you that even a budget side game that's took a whopping FIVE years to come to World's primary platform.

>>717211896
The reason its getting fuck all support is the main team is making another fighting game. Its pretty absurd that you think the entire team that made SF6 is needed to make less than 4 characters a year.

>>717212083
>THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR IT TO NO LONGER MATTER FOR CAPCOM FIGHTING GAMES
no, it doesnt. People are buying tens of millions of arcsys fighting games that are literally clones of capcom games simultaneous to SF, this is a random retarded assumption you pulled out your ass when all evidence flys in the face of it.

>>717212163
>The reason its getting fuck all support is the main team is making another fighting game
Proofs?

>>717212871
common sense.

>>717211214
>irrelevant
>irrelevant
Evidently it's relevant given that Capcom isn't churning out more games, you retard
>They have no idea what works in the modern era
Oh so you're just retarded then. Street Fighter 6 is one of the only paid fighting games ever that has continuously held 5-digit PC player numbers months after release, let alone years, and you think they don't know what works. You're just actually insane and will just deny all the evidence that sits right in front of you and proves you wrong.

>>717204171
>kusoge
>muh random niche meme word
kys no one cares retard

>>717194803 (OP)
I don't think so but...i hope you're right.

I want another KOF XI release.

>>717213012
kek
OK buddy, let's go with that.
SF6 getting 4 characters per year (but plenty of avatar shit) is not Capcom realizing they can get away with doing the absolute minimum and still make a profit, it's just that their main team has been working on a secret fighting game all along.

>>717213080
This argument is giving me brain damage, capcom hasn't got a fucking clue what they should do with their fighting game division, the last SF game wasn't even made internally, gave away characters for free and had a shitty free single player campaign copying mortal kombat. MvC 3's entire budget was less than the SF5 DLC. prior to all this they were still releasing super and ultra editions of SF and in that era they had higher sales.

SF 6 was given to a MH executive to oversee and an entirely new inhouse team was formed to tackle it, you are insinuating that their stance on everything solidified after 30 years of making these games when they are constantly revising how they approach the market.

>>717213664
I could bring up the leak that predicted the latest SF season and tokon which also said MvC 4 was heavy in development with CvS planned after but I didn't think it was necessary since its completely fucking obvious Capcom is currently working on another fighting game.

>>717213992
So your source is not common sense after all, it's a """leak"""

>>717195446
>try hard thing targets at esports people instead of casuals.
makes no sense, old games are way way harder, you were just playing with your friends, if you played with anyone that cared about the game you would get raped even harder than todays input lenient fighting games.

>>717214130
No, its common sense since its fucking obvious and has been from the beginning that the team shifted off SF, I also personally believe MvC 4 was cancelled. I only became aware of the leak this year and it was too accurate to be based on nothing.

you are now arguing with me based on retarded vibes you pulled out your ass.

>>717214476
OK pal, hold on to that hope.

>>717194803 (OP)
Are Indians doing the animations and modeling?

>>717197079
They can outsource modeling and animation to Indians for for bread crumbs. Any chance of passionate artists creating 2D sprites or hand-drawn animation is fucking over it's never coming back.

>>717202818
Games will never look like that. Never. Do you hear me. NEVER EVER

>>717215387
ArcSys could make something that looks close enough.

>>717205663
They should be putting out a new fighting game everyone to 2 years. This long-term patching and updating and all this nonsense fucking sucks. Playing the same game for fucking 7 to 10 years. It's insane consumers have no right to complain about boomers laying on the couch watching their favorite TV shows for years y'all doing the same shit with games.

>>717213864
>This argument is giving me brain damage
The fact that you're ignoring Capcom's blatant and unique success, while insisting they should copy slop slingers whose games die in a matter of weeks, shows that you have pre-existing brain damage. Don't blame that anon for it.

>>717215479
>could
are you black or something?

>>717215739
Fuck off retard.

>>717215709
>play it safe
>make profit
BLATANT AND UNIQUE SUCCESS. Go back to LinkedIn dude. We want fucking VIDEO GAMES DUDE FUCK YOU

>>717215709
kek, he thinks it was capcom's master plan and not vtubers creating a tournament format that shilled the shit out of SF6 and made it hyper popular in japan and only japan.

>>717215801
oh he blatt

>>717215709
I don't want companies to be successful, I am not an investor. I want good games.
"Street Fighter" 6 is incredibly successful but that represents absolutely no benefit to me because the game is fucking horrid.

>>717215890
>and not vtubers
vtroons mentioned
you need to go back
>>717215845
>>717215996
>we want the video games
Indeed, but that's irrelevant. The question wasn't
>is this preferable for gamers and does anon like it
it was
>why does Capcom do it and is it successful
The fact that you're thinking that anon is arguing FOR it to be the case while they're simply explaining why it is the case to someone who thinks it isn't, well, I'm sorry to say that this is low IQ behavior on your parts

>>717216323
You dont need to watch vtubers to know the FGC was having a meltdown over the content japan was making. Punk had a spaz attack and started complaining that people were sucking off japan too much, the format was then lifted by sajam and majin obama.

>>717216556
Punk is such an amazingly obnoxious faggot, I am genuinely surprised he has fans.
Well, not THAT surprised I guess.

>>717194803 (OP)
Don't get your hopes up

>>717216807
At some point you come to appreciate obnoxious retards like punk and Fchamp because you need a villain, I'm just glad he always chokes and never wins big money tournaments.