Thread 717215473

What makes it so fucking good

>>717215473 (OP)
Soundtrack, humor and attention to detail.

its simple
has personality

>>717215473 (OP)
it alright. If the style and creativity doesn't do it for you then you're just left with a super simplified platformer. I liked Goemon 64 a lot more

>>717215473 (OP)
Trans people have lower IQs across the board and this game is simple, charming and speedrunner friendly.
Tooie is of course the superior game, but completely unapproachable to the fatherless, fetal alcohol brain.

>>717215881
FPBP

>>717215473 (OP)
Platformers and exploration are fun. I dont get why the genre died after the 64. No shit Astrobot wins GOTY.

>>717215881
Takes mind power to appreciate Tooie
>mfw banjo katroonie fags screech it's the superior game

>>717215881
>>717215931
Did you fbpb your own post, kek. Absolute neverbyouched a woman cringe.

>>717215473 (OP)
did the nippon even care about this ip?

>>717215473 (OP)
It is a decent enough game but it is completely kneecapped by the obnoxiously awful camera and terrible swimming controls.

>>717215473 (OP)
no nonsense successor to Mario 64 with great level design and movement abilities

>>717215881
I know there is literally zero fucking point in replying to you because you're not interested in arguing in good faith, but FOR THE RECORD no actually, trans people consistently score high on intelligence tests. It's actually a pretty significant difference.

Probably has something to do with low IQ dipshits not having enough emotional intelligence to become trans in the first place. If you're a conservative (who perform ASTOUNDINGLY poorly on IQ tests. Cope seethe etc) then you're never gonna be trans. Which means trans people have a lot of high IQ people among them just by process of elimination.

>>717216327
The camera is fine except for it randomly teleporting when it clips on geometry. Which becomes a non-issue mostly if you manage your camera responsibly

You can improve swimming controls 10x by holding down R/bumper while swimming it's just the game never fucking tells you this

>>717215473 (OP)
The OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZANKFxrcKU

>>717215881
>Trans people
you're not fooling anyone faggot

>>717215473 (OP)
Tooie is better.

>>717215473 (OP)
The levels. Each level is so different from each other, but so memorable and evocative, and a lot of them follow the winning formula of Big Fucking Thing In the Middle with the rest of the level occuring around it, which is objectively the best type of level for this type of game (note how DK64, the inferior game, has no levels following that model)

>>717215473 (OP)
It had peak 90s silliness and charm
Collect-a-thons haven't been done to death by that point
There was a whimsy that could only be achieved by a team that loved what they did, AND were good at it

This Jiggy makes me want to kill myself

the bear is very funny

>>717215473 (OP)
>calling banjo good

>>717216696
its because autism and transgenderism are strongly correlated, and autism and having a high iq is strongly correlated. its about the human brain you directionheaded fucktard

>>717216696
It's not possible to have a high or even middling iq and support communism, an ideology that has failed every single time it was attempted :)

Minimal backtracking.

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO IN THIS RETARDED CLUNKER CAVERN

>>717216696
>"I know there is literally zero fucking point in replying"
>proceeds to not say a single thing with any merit or truth

yeah there really was no point in replying

>>717218998
Just jump at the halfway point straight to it like every other kid did, makes it even easier than the other longer center-looping jiggy switch.

If there's anything frustrating about Bubblegloop Swamp, it was the rematch crocodile minigame with those yellow fuckers.

>>717220268
What's your issue? Did you raise the shark yet? Dive to the bottom of the chain and swim through the winder 3 times. Use the bubbles from the circling fish for air.

>>717220268
Are you talking about the first game or the FPS segment in Tooie

If first game, hold R/bumper for better turning underwater. If Tooie, look out for a small, square room. It has one poop at floor level and another one everyone always misses cuz it's way up at the ceiling

As a kid, I enjoyed tooie WAY more than kazooie.
Playing them again recently I have no Idea how all the backtracking and shit framerate on tooie didnt bother me. But it's still the better game of the two.

>>717220547
>>717220676
In the first game, I don't even get what to do
I was having a great time beforehand, like being an ant and causing all kinds of various tomfoolery and mischief

>>717220709
Backtracking didn't bother you cause the world blew your fucking mind.

>>717220753
Wow mischief AND tomfoolery? Look out boys we got a daredevil over here

>>717220753
You raise Clanker by swimming deep down to th bottom through the key 3 times. If that's not what you mean then idk

>>717220930
After I've raised Clanker how can I raise my self esteem?

>>717220974
If his toothy grin can't save you, I don't think anything will.

>>717220974
With some lead aspirin.

>>717215473 (OP)
Everything just works, and it's a cohesive package. It has flaws, but most of them are endemic to the period, so they are tolerable.

Taste. BK is a Mario 64 clone that makes a few really sound tweaks to the formula. I feel for movementfags with this one, but the level design is immaculate. You can go off in any direction, there's almost always a point of interest within view, and you can blow through almost all of it in a single go. It's not so overbearing that it gets lost in its own sauce, each world is a solid hour or so of good, exploration-oriented gameplay, and the personality of it all makes it a delight to revisit time and again. Wonderful game.

I understand that Banjo isn't designed to be as acrobatic as the plumber, but I wish he had ONE move that was fun to cross intermediate distances with. Some little boost of speed or some trick he could do that makes traversal more fun. Could be a long jump. A triple jump. A spin jump. Do something with his forward roll so it has more momentum or bounciness to it. The Sunshine belly dive. Literally just give me one good move I can spam when I'm bored

What's with the increase of Banjo threads?

>>717222082
Reminder. Pretty much a bird's entire body is an erogenous zone

>>717215473 (OP)
music, length of time between tasking yourself with a goal and getting a reward jingle, graphics, control, difficulty curve, humor, being an anthromorphic cartoon bear weaponizing a bird is a really good hook

>>717222082
Banjo being too clueless to Kazooie's advances is an adorably perfect reason to in-game shoot down any shipfagging.

>>717215473 (OP)
You just had to be there when you got a VHS of Jon Lovitz telling you to play this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTAUAvnJEw

>>717224764
I have that tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbVANN-V5lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekIiMTuCCxM
Looking back, it's a bit jarring Nuts & Bolts was supposed to be Banjo-Kazooie's big comeback even though Rare themselves joked about how a sequel was unlikely at the end of the game

We've never seen lore accurate Mumbo Jumbo in an actual game

>>717227778
Who is the man, behind the mask? The myth? The legend?

>>717216696
You should kill yourself you fucking freak

>>717215473 (OP)
It is a "holistic" game. Not a single feature, ability, or space on the map exists without purpose. If something is there, you will be using it. Take a single step and you will always end up finding something to do or collect. The game is basically zero downtime, you're never not engaging with it or playing on mental autopilot. It's basically the platonic ideal of a "complete" game.

>>717215473 (OP)
The Setting and Tone.

Walking into that Witch Lair and hearing the distant Witch's Laugh imbued in the music?

It invoked so much mystery and allure as a child.

If SuperBanjo were the default speed Banjo-Tooie would have been remembered a lot fucking differently

Boat level good. Desert level bad.

Dinosaur level good. Mine level bad.

If they ever do a remake I frankly don't even know if it's possible to make Terrydactyland into a good level. Not without overhauling it so drastically it'd essentially be erasing it and replacing it with a different dino level. It's that fucking mountain in the middle. It causes/exasperates the majority of the problems with the level but it's not like you can remove it while keeping it the same level

>>717232408
>Boat level good.
Very.
>Desert level bad.
Eh.
>Dinosaur level good.
Bleh.
>Mine level bad.
Yes.

>>717233124
Terrydactyland and Cloud Cuckooland have similar conceptual layouts and have similar problems for it.

Kazooie doesn't fuck Banjo, she fucks Tooty when Banjo's not home

You can't stop me from posting it again

>>717220365
yeah fuck that game. also have shit memory so couldn't figure out the turtle music one

>>717216298
They’re in Smash and Kazooie/Tooie sold well there with decent marketing so yes.

>>717223591
RMS is that you?

>>717215473 (OP)
Pacing. I still wish it had more outright plafforming/exploration, though. It's better than Tooie on those grounds but there are still too many minigames.

>>717242403
People say they want more exploration but also Tooie has too much exploration. What do you children WANT

>>717233124
Terrydactyland is genuinely less cancer than grunty industries. The real issue is the sound design for it, way too many disgusting animal noises.

>>717242558
Tooie's problem isn't too much exploration. It's that it's bloated with added moves that are glorified keys and padded with backtracking. And by backtracking I don't mean revisiting previous levels, but things like having to transform into the money trunk that only functions to open a door so you can then split Banjo and Kazooie with the pad and then return back to play a minigame. The transformations are rarely fun for their own sake, and frankly most of the minigames are passable at best.

>>717243187
> I don't mean revisiting previous levels
I do, that shit is a problem.

Like, I shouldn't have to learn the power drill in level 2 then go back to mayahem temple to get a jiggy. That is a waste of my fucking time. Just put the move in level 1

>>717215473 (OP)
There's are a lot of fairytale elements in this series that involve that childlike wonder and that's why it's so memorable and beloved

>>717216201
t. Samefag with a pass

>>717244447
Not even. You don't need a pass or a proxy, just a fucking phone, which everyone has. That guy is a massive retard

For me it all comes down to Rare unique writing and the way thy build their characters up, their British wit and Cynicism shows during the entire course of the story. Their is just nothing quiet like it particularly in all their classic plateforming titles and it makes for a more relatable and memorable gaming experience overall.