BF6 will be dead on arrival. Just the fact that they’re still shoehorning women into a battlefield game makes me not want to buy it at all.

FUCK EA DO NOT PRE ORDER

>complains about women
>complains about fighting equally skilled players
Look, I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, but you sound like a stereotypical white dude who wants a free handout because of his race and gender.

>sweat one day
>skyrocket rank
>call it quits
>kinda lazy next day
>just wanna chill but its impossible
>get shit on every match for the rest of the day
sbmm is aids

>>717235960
Seems better than whatever your fighting against being completely random.

>>717235881
As if anyone wants to hear women shouting callouts and yelling in their hear as they die. I could count on one hand the amount of women who played at the official BF6 reveal event and they played like shit.
I especially watched two women, an Asian bitch and some hot sorority blonde stream and they were abysmally bad. Almost to the point where it looked like someone’s girlfriend took over the controller for a minute, and these bitches got invited to play test the game!?!??
Not even to mention the fact that both of those women were probably call of duty warzone streamers.

>>717236254
She seemed to be doing pretty good. Doubt you could do better. https://youtu.be/c_BRbvYxgOY?t=2402

I will test on the first Free Weekend event
maybe buying if 90% off

>>717235275 (OP)
>SBMM in 32v32 games
Sounds like a fucking nightmare

>>717235275 (OP)
Disaster

>>717235275 (OP)
>battlefield
>sbmm
Why?

>>717238462
because studies show whales don't spend money if theyre constantly going 2-32

>>717238229
its never about matching for "skill" its about controlling win/loss probability

>>717235275 (OP)
The game is already confirmed to have portal, isnt that a server browser?

>>717235275 (OP)
Good
Let the idiots who buy this shit suffer

>>717235275 (OP)
>noooo, they're ruining my dudebro shooter
Wow, it's like pissing into an ocean of piss.

NOOOOO HOW WILL I BE ABLE TO STOMP NOOBS NOW I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT PEOPLE AT MY SKILL LEVEL!!!

>>717238229
It's probably easier since the game just has to make the matchmaking values even out so you can have a lot of higher skilled, median skilled and lower skilled players all in the same match. MWII/III 10v10 mode was way better for this reason.

>everybody has demonstrated that SBMM does the job its supposed to
>Activision has outright released data that showed that people will stop playing when SBMM is turned off
>everybody whining about SBMM is at best a vocal minority or at worst just performative social media faggotry

If your game is dependent on matchmaking rather than the classic community server system there is zero reason to not implement SBMM.

>>717239613
It's zoomers that watched e-celebs/streamers whining about it because it doesn't allow streamers to make funny kill videos, so now they parrot them.

>>717239613
battlefield was never reliant on matchmaking, thobeit...

grim!

anyone feel like no matter how good BF6 is this shits all riding on slurping up new players who haven't played large scale squad games for the first couple of weeks before fading into the background?

>>717239613
>Activision has outright released data that showed that people will stop playing when SBMM is turned off
>literal mentally disabled protected bracket will stop playing once they get put in actual lobbies that means everyone should be forced to suffer these free stomp games to cock and ball torture esport tryout whiplash matchmaking
activision also said ping is the most important factor and its provably false so I don't give a shit what lies activision will spout to keep their EOMM scam running

>>717239890
Yeah, basically. COD and Fortnite is crack and they have refined that metaprogression and dopamine incentives to an exact science.
Retards can spam "Battlefield 6" in the comments all over COD's youtube videos and constantly repost that statement about the director wanting to keep the skins grounded, but the people actually playing the games and actually spending money do like those skins. The whiners could go play a milsim but they won't because that actually requires effort and investment.
It'll grab people just off its release date. Far away enough from the big sports titles, far away from COD, no real competition thanks to GTA6 delay.
When Battlefield's larger maps remind players its gameplay is more about skirmishes and hot zones of control rather than the freewheeling manic insanity and time-to-encounters measured in single digit seconds of COD I think it'll lose its first big chunk come BO7's usual late October/early November release date. And that goes without assuming they don't get distracted by trying to make that free-to-play battle royale happen or post-launch doesn't get compromised. Or a buggy as fuck launch.

I hope Battlefield 6 does well long-term just because there's no actively supported large scale combined arms multiplayer shooter in the AAA space, but people trying to make this successful out of fanboy spite or bizarre grievances with COD are not serious people.

more like Engagement Based MM kek

>>717236146
no it doesnt you retard lmao

battlefield is about joining a server and doing stupid shit, it doesn't take any skill.

>>717235960
SBMM makes no sense for a all-out war game, the fuck does it know about someone who sits in a tank all game vs matching them vs people who only use a sniper.

>/v/ hates sbmm
why am i not surprised that the mass majority of casual "gamers" (terminally online stream watchers) don't enjoy having to fight for a win. tards

a pub is a pub sbmm shit wont change that.

>>717241135
its always disingenuous faggots like you trying to tell people to play shit like arma if they want the game they are currently playing to not look like ugly mishmashed dogshit like this

>>717239720
Huh? I've been using matchmaking since V.

>>717235960
Is there a problem with losing a bunch? are you saying that being put in a match with people better than you would make you upset and less likely to play the game?

>>717235275 (OP)
sbmm won't do shit in 40v40 or whatever the number is.
not buying it anyway so idc.

>>717235275 (OP)
It won't have SBMM it will have a team balancer like BF3,4,1,V, 2042 etc. David Sirland debunked SBMM rumors 4-5 months ago.
>>717238713
Actually, you can create any type of playlist you want with portal, with full XP on top of it. If you can't find players for your server then your idea is shit.
>Best maps Conquest 7/24
>Operation Metro 7/24
>Best maps Domination 7/24
>Best vehicle maps, fast vehicle spawn
etc. should be possible with full XP.

>>717235275 (OP)

I don't think casual gamers with actual jobs who can play an hour or two a day want to be put into lobbies with YouTube gamers who play for 12 hours a day while begging people to donate money to them.

Try hards who play all day and well into the night should be matched with other sweats who play all day and well into the night. Casual players should be matched with other casual players.

>>717235960

If you're a highly skilled sweat/pro, it's only fair that you play with other highly skilled players.

>>717236624

Okay, now let's see her do all of that without aim assist.

>>717239890
They redesigned TDM and Domination to be more like CoD. If they solve the spawn problem CoD players will most likely play TDM/Dom.

>be player with 500 hrs
>win rate too high
>gets in a team with players with 48 mins of gameplay each
>the other team are all players with 100hrs each
>win rate artificially reduced

Zoomoids think this is "skill based" matchmaking.

>>717243075
Not how it works retard

>>717243197
It's literally how it works, retard.

>>717243248
Play games yourself and don't watch e-celebs seething

>>717235881
>a stereotypical white dude who wants a free handout because of his race and gender.
Militant extremist detected. You lost.

>>717243289
I do, that's exactly how it works, retard.

>>717243489
Post you're rank in some skill based games.

>>717241595
My guess it will be very loose. For example, if a guy dominates one round he will be put in the opposit team against the second best next round (or against the best from a different round) and so on.

>>717235275 (OP)
>intentional ragebait
you retards fall for it every time.
leakers confirmed its the pretty much the same matchmaking as 2042 but it will preference you to servers with the same controls (controller or keyboard).

>>717235275 (OP)

>>717243616
>the same matchmaking as 2042
As someone who still plays some 2042, that does work. Way more than half of the games I'm just against PS-guys, the other games is 50+ % controller and the rest kbm.

>>717235881
I want a server browser so I can fucking choose what server I play on, so I can even SEE how many other people are playing, what they're playing

>>717241739
We hate it because it means NO SERVER BROWSER

THATS the important part of the op, NOT that the game is going to 'try' and put together fair teams

>>717235275 (OP)
>no server browser
It's dead and i don't want to hear the excuses that BF6 isn't dead. It won't be dead on launch per say, its later down the line.

>>717235275 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE 6,000,000 HOURS IN THE GAME I SHOULD BE ABLE TO STOMP NOOBS FOREVER INSTEAD OF BEING MATCHED AGAINST PEOPLE AS GOOD AS I AM THIS IS UNFAIR GABE PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why are gaymers like this?

>>717243532
>post you're rank
>when we are bitching about the hidden mmr sbmm bullshit in fucking pubs

>>717235881
You sound like an upper management nigger who targets whites based on his preconceived prejudices on racial inequality and all that bullshit, but pretends to be “progressive” because you’re black. You’re not fooling anyone and video games are used as entertainment, not a job. Unless you made becoming a professional gamer your career, which is just bad life choices. There was never any money in becoming a “pro gamer” compared to a real sport.

>>717244012
>Hurr strawman
Those of us older than zoomer range know what it was like to have games that let us control where/who we played
Its not even just about the skill of other players (which you COULDN'T ACTUALLY SEE from the browser btw), it let you see HOW MANY players were in a server, what map, what mode, the PING

This is what a modern game gives you instead. Who fucking knows what shit looks like for any of these modes? Is anyone even playing them? And you have to pick just ONE to queue for at a time. Just trash.

>>717238179
Fuck that. I’m not doing either open beta because you know the game has cheaters already, mine as well wait for release to see if it’s at least as good as BF1
If not, then no buy. And I need to see what they are doing with the leveling/progression system as well. 2042 was all over the place

Matchmaking was always a self-correcting issue in any game with significant max player counts. Pubstomping is just as enjoyable as forming lasting rivalries with opposing pubstompers in your community. A majority of low-skill players on either team means they can still have fun killing each other and maybe even get one over on the skilled players. Players leaving as they wish means fags who care enough about getting pubstomped can eventually just switch teams. SBMM exists to A) streamline multiplayer gaming for literal mouthbreathing retards and B) control your experience to drive engagement/push MTX. Believing that the developers are matching you with opponents at an even skill level out of the kindness of their hearts means you have drank the Kool-Aid and are irredeemable.
The future is gay and retarded and if you disagree then you weren't there for the good times and are thus a gay retard.

>>717242640
>If you can't find players for your server then your idea is shit.
Just like how you told me last night that I'm low IQ for experiencing what most people experienced in OCE region about portal being dead very quickly. But this was never an issue when they used a REAL server browser, you could always find servers for Conquest or Rush pretty easily, the main staples where you would expect a playerbase to be.

>>717245176
I didn't even interacted with you anon I dunno who you are

>>717245305
Portal doesn't work and the previous way of doing things did work. Portal was always borked and you can't foresee the circumstances in which it doesn't work. You're just being a mouthpiece for EA at that point.

>>717235275 (OP)
>Deadass no cap fire finna pre-order dis peak sybau server browser unc

>>717235275 (OP)
>SBMM
Fucking dropped. This shit killed Halo Infinite.

>write little script that merely hits the join game button, spawns me in, and holds W until im dead
>leave it running day and night for weeks
>whatever gay algorithm the SBMM uses tanks my rating all the way down into turbo shitter rank, because i have like 1000 loses where i go 0-30
>it will take forever to recover
>enjoy game
i did this back in MW2019 boy was it fun

>Server browser in 2025
wat

>>717246915

>>717243765
You don't get a server browser that shows official servers because you allowed the bad apples to use it to stack teams and vehicle whore truce and ruin the game for the casual players that just hit 'quickplay'

boo hoo

>Still playing GENDERFIELD VI

>>717235275 (OP)
I dont get the complaints, why are you afraid of fighting people on your level? Afraid of a challenge? I play Marvel Rivals and every qp game is as serious as comp lol and I like it. Better than a stomp

>>717245176
>I can't find a full match in the server browser of this game no one plays when back during the release of some of the biggest games I was able to find servers, curious

You're too dumb to live. I'm able to find a full server for my region 24/7. Maybe if you quit bitching that a server you want doesn't exist and instead hosted one it would fill up with all the like-minded intelligents such as yourself right?

>>717238179
>Free Weekend event
When's that? Good time to test if my old computer can run it.

>>717239613
Its because CoD, the biggest SBMM game, isn't supposed to be fair.
Killstreaks and bloodthirsty and all that other crap isn't something that can naturally exist in a game of truly equal opponents battling. If SBMM worked properly every CoD match would be everyone around 1.0 KD and no one getting anything cool. SBMM only works when the point of the game is to win the match, CoD fags care more about camo grinding and killstreaks then winning a match

>>717248228
this weekend

>$120 NZD
Love this economy anons.
Its free weekend for me, then im waiting till at least 75% off.

>No recoil
>CoD/CS movement
>CoD maps
>complaining about something as irrelevant as 50/50 win/loss ratios
Lol
Lmao
Rofl

>>717235275 (OP)
so same scam as 2042 where they queue in low skill with high skill so that they can feel like they are crushing lmao

>>717235275 (OP)
This is EA we're talkin about, it aint gonna be SBMM, its gonna be EOMM.
You will never enjoy matchmaking again, and you will be manipulated into sinking time into your games via forced losses

>>717248228
only free if you was in bf labs or got the twitch code drop on august 2nd

next weekend is the real open beta for "everyone".

(august 15th-17th)

>>717248760
>Weekend 1 opens on August 9 at 8:00 UTC (1AM PT) and closes August 11 at 8:00 UTC (1AM PT)
>No code needed, available to anyone

>>717248740
EOMM is not real

>>717248760
Both weekends are for everyone, the code gets you into the first weekend earlier though.

>>717235275 (OP)
>SERVER BROWSER CONFIRMED

>>717235881
>but you sound like a stereotypical white dude who wants a free handout because of his race and gender.
Which races receive the most welfare relative to their race's population again?

>>717248953
But does this mean I can search for official Dice vanilla servers or just vanilla servers someone makes in portal?
There's a big difference.

>>717235275 (OP)
I'm usually for SBMM but not in a 64vs64 game. How do you even matchmake that? They should keep SBMM for smaller, more tryhard modes and gay battleroyale modes

>>717249039
find out Soon™

>>717248482
People also usually complain more about the implementation that, IIRC, was even proven to flip flop pretty hard. Which helps to a degree with getting killstreaks but has it's own issues in turn like immediately getting your teeth kicked in for having a couple good games and matches feeling very predictable instead of a proper ranked system where your MMR is fairly steady. CoD players are just inarticulate morons that can't explain their actual issues with it nor do they play other games to realize CoD isn't how SBMM is done across the board so they end up making themselves look like idiots that just want to pubstomp and hate even matches.

>>717249125
black/asian mix
some sort of white/latina mix (or also asian mix)
and then the full chinese

>>717235960
>sweat one day
found the problem
videogames are supposed to be fun

>>717241135
>but the people actually playing the games and actually spending money do like those skins
Lots of people don't. It just doesn't matter if ten other people who already bought the game and weren't likely to splurge on skins anyway say they hate it when Timmy is going to buy a dozen overpriced operators.
>The whiners could go play a milsim but they won't because that actually requires effort and investment
They won't because that's a completely different game, you retard. And milsims don't require effort or investment lmao, maybe if you're in an actual ARMA group. It's the only genre I can get my friends who don't play FPS and openly admit they suck at them to play because they're really easy once you get used to the controls.

>>717249661
trying can be fun

>>717249661
I don't understand why you retards think putting effort into something can't be fun.

>>717235881
>look
Sorry I’m blind and don’t care

>>717235275 (OP)
that's not even my biggest concern. rootkit spyware no thank you

>>717235275 (OP)
Ah, lovely, a reason not to play.
All I wanted was more BF3 but that's the last thing they'll give me.

>>717235881
Maybe he just wants a server to play with his many bros? I know it's probably hard for you to imagine. You're probably too young to even remember Halo 3 custom games with the bros.

>>717247839
Wasn't a problem back in the day
Waa waa sometimes you might encounter a bad matchup, better take away all the players' ability to control their experience then

>>717250714
got something to hide?

>>717243765
Those days are long gone and dead, give up

>>717251357
nah just that there's absolutely no need, kids are always going to cheat

>>717250714
>that's not even my biggest concern. rootkit spyware no thank you
Lesser evil than in a chinese game. Enjoy playing slop with cheaters then.
Your whining doesn't make parasites and cheaters stop existing.
Bet you avoid high grass too because of ticks, when you can just wear long pants and boots
NGMI

I simply don't play BF6 because it will be SHIT

>>717251657
what kind of incoherent retardbabble is this

>third worlder spaces out after more than 9 words

>>717251657
i don't play chinese games either, i boycott all that shit. there are always cheaters.
we don't have ticks here yet, we're fine

You niggers are 70 IQ I swear
SBMM is bad because it will always, ALWAYS be abused by streamers and those streamers will teach their retarded zoomoid fans to do the same.
CoD has people literally just blowing themselves up on respawn to get games with shitters where they can pop off for free. The notion of "skill based" matchmaking goes out the window when people start doing that shit. What's the point of it when every 3 or 4 lobbies is filled with a killer that just smokes you all?
You can't accurately measure the skill of a person with an alogrithim. League of Legends has taught us this for over a decade.

That, and they're putting it in because they KNOW that SBMM turns the game into a psychological hamster wheel. Just look at >>717239613 , no shit the people addicted to coinflipping leave the moment you take out the coinflip. CoD is about popping off and getting crazy killstreaks, if you actually had to sweat every match against equal players you'd never get anything better than a UAV. SBMM is nothing but people taking turns annihilating people and getting annihilated. Of course John Normalfag who works a 12 hour shift at the dick stomping factory is going to quit when he's not being fed free wins on occasion. The system is literally designed so that casuals who are below average will be delivered their dopamine on a silver platter.

>everyone I don't like is a third worlder, said the third worlder
brown schizo hours

>>717251831
SAAAR

The best anti-cheat method has always been a votekick mechanic

>>717252206
k

>>717252206
Only for blatant rage hacking that is way too obvious. Just having a few milliseconds better reaction time with an aim assist hack puts you in top 10% of all matches.

also, has there ever been an actual issue with cheaters in battlefield? just killing infantry has never been the point of the game, it's not what makes you win

>>717235275 (OP)
>no server browser
what the actual fuck

>>717252304
>also, has there ever been an actual issue with cheaters in battlefield?
99% of the time the people who ruin lobbies are airtrannies. They're scum sucking niggers but at least they're doing it legit.
Even a hacker gets killed sometimes.

>>717252303
If hackers have to keep their bullshit subtle, so they're not openly disrupting the game for everyone else, then that's still a win

For comparison I routinely see Battlefront 2 matches ruined by a guy who doesn't give a shit how blatant he is and has a whole server shouting at him to fuck off, all powerless to actually do anything about him.

>>717252408
aimbot with helicopter machine guns or something like that?

>>717252304
Before they added a new anticheat last year BF1 had a massive problem. Operations became unplayable at certain times because one autist would hop from server to server and crash them. And a lot of people would just blatantly headshot everyone with LMGs.

>>717252482
server crashing sounds bad yeah, but not the job of an anticheat.
i never played much of bf1 because i just didn't like it at all, but usually players are completely powerless against vehicles and things like that, isn't it quit easy to wipe out people still?

>>717235275 (OP)
>not on the no games switchy 2
>Already attacking the game
Classic

>>717252408
https://youtu.be/7XMR4ntN6SE

Airfaggots cheat just as well. BF4 had shit like perfect speed control for jets too.

>>717235275 (OP)
Why do they have to ruin everything?>>717235881
feminist allies like you will have to make it even worse. No women should be allowed to join active combat zones they are useless there and team will have to spend more time baby sitting them than fighting enemies

>>717252836
>He sets down his cheeto encrusted mountain dew, the last woman has been removed from video games and his crusade is over.

You're a non-desirable. At least the untouchables perform a function for society.

FPS is the only genre where retards will complain about not being able to destroy noobs.

>>717252770
least obvious kid cheater lmfao

>>717253003
Because MOBA players just create their 10th smurf to dunk on new players.

>>717252770
that's disgusting

why even play multiplayer if you want to stomp? just beat a bunch of bots on easy

>>717253194
they get off on "beating" real players, there's no reaction from bots. i had this when i was younger too

>>717253194
Who said about stomping? I want games to be unpredictable like all mp shooters before MM. MM and SBMM makes games ultra boring where every match will fill the same unless they could implement some very light SBMM in that case it may work.

>>717253428
>I want games to be unpredictable
>Does the same thing every single game

>>717235275 (OP)
Total female solder death

>>717253487
Oh really? Without SBMM you can easily play as other class or hop into vehicle without worrying that you will get instagibbed across the map by tryhards that game hand picked just for you. If anything it's SBMM that forces you to become a meta fag to keep WR higher than 50% and KDR above 1.0

>>717235275 (OP)
>Sbmm
BF was actually one of those games, where you could lose a match and still have a ton fun.
Your team might suck ass, but you and your squad are still having a blast succesfully defending an objective or causing havoc behind the enemy lines and stuff like that.
So if the matchmaking is as jank and broken as everything else in modern BF, I wouldn't worry too much.
>No server browser
Wtf?! This game is doa, fuck this shit.

>>717253679
that's what made bf so great, the other team could suck ass at teamwork and just try to kill everyone, while you and 3 other friends in a jeep would sneak around capturing flags and strategically flanking bases winning in the end

>>717254017
I loved playing recon in BF3
>Spawn beacon
>AS Val
>Know about that one bugged spot on the map where enemies can't reach the beacon
>Go full guerilla behind enemy lines
Shit was tight.

>>717253679
you and your squad holding an objective together long enough until others come was great

>>717235275 (OP)
>sbmm
>still wokefield as if females could ever be infantry
>intrusive anti cheat which won't stop any cheater as usual
>act like they don't want nicki minaj skins but already have tacky muh operator skin packs already on pre order
>electronic arts so you know the servers will have a dogshit tickrate
If you fall for it again it's all on you.

>>717253679
I think most of us would agree with you.
I also think that if you worked at DICE and were in the SBMM decision making room, and said what you just wrote out,
everyone would look at you like you were some incel who liked reading Fredrick Neetcha or whatever that guy's name was.
Contemporary devs treat gaming psychology like a science, rather than a "Gay Science".

>Ready to Preload Battlefield on August 4th?
>Visit your platform's store on your console or PC (Xbox, PlayStation, Steam, or EA App)
>In the search bar, type Battlefield 6 Open Beta
>Once located, download Battlefield 6 Open Beta
where is it

>>717235275 (OP)
Someone post the 20 page Activision study where they covertly turned off SBMM and player analytics including retention, satisfaction, rank advancement, and (not like any normal person gives a fuck about this one, honestly) revenue fell off.

desu i started playing bf1 again since it has new anti-cheat now, and i really have no interest in buying the new battlefield, bf1 is quite nice already

lol

>>717249043
well, if someone goes 103-0 in a chopper against people who are literally too dumb or bad to even shoot it with anything, maybe he shouldn't be matched against those people again. and i hate sbmm, server browser should be the default. the system shouldn't try to force some parity, but separate players by what they know and have achieved once or twice. it should assume that if a player can succeed in something basic once, like using a stinger to lock into a helicopter and damaging it, then they can do it again. it'd be like a hidden checklist tutorial that sends you into the real games tier by tier after you've proven to be capable, or something like that. everyone would eventually be in the same mm, except those literally too stupid to understand basic game mechanics.

>mascots for the game are a black man and asian woman
four games in a row they've done this
they will never ever learn
may this bury the franchise for good

>>717242673
its a 64 player game, its not like the whole lobby will be streamer sweats
this argument for sbmm only makes sense for small games like god

>>717235275 (OP)
CoDfags who don't even like BF will call it a return to form while the game lacks a server browser and the guns lack any recoil lol

>>717239445
its amazing how people still exist that defend sbmm
like it literally completely killed cods playerbase and you niggers still defend it, unreal

>>717256334
An Activision SBMM study using MWIII Team Deathmatch.
SBMM would probably benefit similar game modes in Battlefield, but I don't know if it holds up well in game modes where you don't only need to rack up kills to have a good time/meaningfully increase your score (I make this distinction, because Score-Per-Minute in COD and SPM in a Battlefield game probably aren't equitable).

>>717239613
>>everybody has demonstrated that SBMM does the job its supposed to
its supposed to make the majority of skilled players stop playing the game for good?

>>717235275 (OP)
>SBMM
If FUCKING only
It'll be the same EBMM slop as always
True skill-based matchmaking triggers casuals but it's amazing for those who believe in self-improvement, but we haven't had a single game doing that in the last 10 years at least
It's all engagement-based matchmaking now, read- everything is rigged to be a stomp either way to maximize playtime and dopamine output for the lowest common denominator trash

>>717257223
Yes because the majority of skilled players don't represent the majority of average players and ruin the game for them with their MLG no life bullshit.

>>717257196
The ranking system would obviously be different. Decrying the concept as a whole is basically sloptuber talking point designed to turn 70% of servers into unplayable backline run festivals, those critical flanks should be earned by smart gameplay and not getting the leg up on someone not even wearing headphones. That being said, I am hearing things about no server browser, if this is unironically true, it's fucking DOA. Literally
>Stop killing games gains momentum in media
>Battlefield game miraculously releases without community server tools
I wouldn't even be surprised at this point.

>>717257223
isn't ranked cs:go sbmm and also one of the most successful shooter of all times?

>>717257103
yeah every gun is a laser beam + auto spotting bull shit the game is going to be fucking dogshit

>>717257669
I get your point that a SBMM system with a ranking system tailored to Battlefield's more unique, less sweaty game mode(s) might be good,
but I'm saying that another publicly available white paper performed on a PvP game where KDM isn't so heavily tied to player retention, "fun", etc. hasn't been performed yet (based on my 2 minutes of searching. I could be incorrect).
and so we cannot simply rely on the data of the Activision study when it comes to game modes like Conquest (assuming you're the guy who said it should be posted).

>>717258317
>auto-spotting
well can't be worse than lately
>see enemy
>spot him with gadget or whatever
>you can't see him where you spotted him

>>717244056
I accept you're concesìon.

>>717238657
Its about engagement, they don't care about your win-lose ratio.

>>717235881
Fighting only your equals is boring as fuck, true joy of mass combat manifests in being up against people both inferior and superior to you at once!

>>717238229
Holy fuck DICE and EA are retarded. Ground War in COD became absolutely unplayable after a week because of this bullshit retention-based matchmaking. There is nothing worse on this planet than getting stuck on a low skill team against a full 32 team of veteran players that camp out and hold objectives like a crack head under an overpass, while accompanied by those tryhards that are always in vehicles like it's world of tanks. There's a good reason why that mode is dead as shit now. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING???

>>717257693
It's also the explicit ranked mode for tryharding

How does SBMM work in 64v64?

>>717244232
>Everyone in upper management is mean to me!
Says everything one needs to know about you, wagie.

>>717259010
No way the matches will be 128 player

>>717241595
Yeah I am also wondering about this, it makes more sense in cod

>>717257069

Good point.

>>717236146
??? what

>>717258991
yeah but still mega popular

>>717254541
playing support and recon is peak bf

>>717259790
Special forces type recon good.
Sniper recon bad.
Sniper recons should disappear from this world.

>>717259903
man it's been too long i confused it with support, i prefer playing support/medic/engineer, recon is rarely that useful

>>717235275 (OP)
You guys are out of the loop. The new meta is to fill these games with SECRET BOTS, so you think you're fighting players when you're not. They'll have LLMs now to make them even more realistic.

These bots build your confidence back up (so EVERYONE can have an 80% winrate) then you can participate in skill-based matchmaking and your psychological state won't lead you to quitting when you sweat and get your ass kicked.

>>717260091
fortnite does this, feels alright desu

>>717235275 (OP)
Goodluck ever finding a full lobby if you're not a midwit. Sbmm for 64 player matches is just retarded.

>>717260043
BF6 is giving recon TUGS as his class gadget so it seems like they want him to be sniper again. It's very sad. It should be motion tracking balls so you can attack with them but it's not. Sad.

>wait 10 minutes to find a lobby of people that are exactly my skill level
>game will end in 3 minutes
>have to matchmake again
It's so retarded.

>>717235275 (OP)
>be retard
>join the army
>see a woman
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS REAL LIFE SO FUCKING WOOOOOOOOOOKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717235275 (OP)
yeah im not buying it anymore, this has sealed it for me as a COD player i was going to pick it up but fuck this shit

>>717249125
fucking gross kek

>>717252148
Battlefield was never about this try hard kill death crap that COD madr popular. You can fully enjoy being a good player in Battlefield by doing the objective or by giving assists, like spotting, reving, healing, reping, or lazing.

oh no. they put women into the game?

is this the same game where i can take a usas 12 guage automatic shotgun and just unload it directly into said women at point blank range?

oh no

what a terrible thing

>>717251531
>wahhh devs dont do anything about cheaters!
>NOOOO DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
>MUH PRIVACY!
>>Implying your data isnt already sold to everyone

Imagine still adding foids and no server browsing 128 ping minimum server.

>>717265634
imagine not masturbating every time a woman gets blown up in battlefield.

What a massive faggot