Thread 717241161

when will chuds learn KRIS IS NOT A BOY

Anime has been more lethal on white men than hiroshima bomb on japas.

>>717241161 (OP)
I'll respect Kris's pronouns if HE GIVES ME BACK MY FUCKING VESSEL

>>717241161 (OP)
Kris is a man because I say so.

tranny game
tranny fanbase

The funny part is that xe's 100% right.
You are playing a tranny game, through and through. It has they/them people, it has more gays than straights, etc.
You just don't want to admit you like a tranny game.

>>717241161 (OP)
>>717241612
didn't ask
I'll keep calling Kris a boy

>>717241161 (OP)
why do trannies here defend UT/DT so hard when it ferments this kind of awful mental illness

if kris isn't a boy then why did temmie animate his cock flopping around when he walks

>>717241161 (OP)
I don't think this person understands the point we're making.
We don't think that Kris is secretly hoping to be recognized as the boy he truly is.
We think that he just is a boy who is either deluded or groomed into thinking he's something in between male and female.
It's a rejection of the idea of Non-Binary, not an affirmation of some deeply seated identity.

>>717241161 (OP)
>millennials share videogame taste with literal trannies
How embarrassing.

>>717241612
This can barely be called a videogame, it has basically no gameplay, just stupid minigames that even a kid could complete (to not alineate the women and the trannies no doubt), graphically gets mogged by Game Boy Advance games and it seems focused on storytelling, featuring writing that's basically the embodiment of everything wrong with millennial writing.
Liking Undertale or Deltarune is a huge red flag that points you are talking to someone with severe mental illnesses and/or is a manchild.

>>717241161 (OP)
Fantastic videogame discussion lads, Deltatroon is totally a game ahahaha

>>717241161 (OP)
i have no idea why troons focus on kris being nonbinary so much. it's like if they all started being dead fucking serious about kris being mexican or something. it's pretty obvious that tony fogs just wants kris to be gender ambiguous like his other human protag. code snippets relating to "murderboy" in UT show that he doesn't really care one way or the other. also pic rel

>>717241161 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7eOl8Jvb8A&t=10073s

>>717241161 (OP)
kris probably is supposed to be a they/them faggot, but I don't care and will continue to call him a boy.
Deltarune's faggy fanbase will not stop me

>>717243338
>it's pretty obvious that tony fogs just wants kris to be gender ambiguous like his other human pr
your faggot leader is woke as fuck why do you think hes not actually serious about his protag being a troon

>>717241161 (OP)
>28 views
why are you posting your own tweets on 4chan?

>>717243673
to be fair to tobert fucks, this is the one time he's ever done anything like this, and it was for something that even normies got on board for for a while

>>717241612
This anon speaks the truth.

>>717243673
literally every normal faggot did this anon find any other piece of evidence

>>717243728
bro, I like deltarune and undertale but we gotta admit toby is pretty woke and bluepilled

>>717241161 (OP)
I don't care what Kris wants to be, he's male and he's a stupid faggot. I will continue raping his childhood friend using his own body and he won't do anything to stop me.

>>717243787
probably, but like I said, this is the only overt thing he's done. He tends to keep it close to his chest instead of vomiting it all on twitter, which I can respect

>>717241161 (OP)
If Kris is nonbinary why does a sheltered Church goer like Toriel approve of it? She went to pray for Asriel just for kissing girls casually.
If Kris is nonbinary why does Carol not mind him? According to trannies she’s a bigot for not liking Susie getting with her daughter, yet she’s fine with a troon?

>>717241161 (OP)
people like this are annoying, i genuinely dont get why anybody should care about weather kris identifies as an attack helicopter or not since they dont have a confirmed gender

>>717241161 (OP)
What if Kris is female, and Toriel just didn't found book how to differenciate between sexes

>painfully obvious bait thread
Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

I felt that in DR and UT it was intentionally ambiguous so you could project onto the character more easily.

>>717241161 (OP)
>random retard on twitter opinion thread
now i understand why Jannies delete these threads

Kris is a self-insert so he's whatever the player is. In my world Kris is a man because I'm a man. And I will force him to be with Noelle.

>>717243840
because it's the token "good religion" where you can be mildly shocked at basic things like premarital hand-holding, but God-forbid (literally) you be homophobic or racist.

They don't even have concepts of sin and confessional. (even though Toriel directly relates the concept of the church to sin in chapter 4 as an off-handed remark)
They even hold service on Saturday just to really drive home the point that this isn't christianity.

>make a sexually ambiguous character so the player can relate to them regardless of gender
>fanbase will try to ruin your life if you don't address the character as specifically non-binary

>>717241161 (OP)
>Male name
Male

>>717244217
i do think it's really funny to imagine that toriel is just bizarrely catholic for no reason

>>717244261
I dont understand why are they so rabid with Deltarune Kris being non binary but they accept that Undertale character was meant to be non specified gender? Do they not get its the same case in both games?

>>717244265
lmao Chris-Chan still allows that nickname after becoming a troon because Chris is short for Christina.

>>717244374
Because Kris has snippets of characterization while Frisk was a complete blank slate.

>>717244191
>Kris is a self-insert
Learn some media literacy, chuddie

>>717241161 (OP)
I'm so glad I don't give two shits about stuff like this or the ship autism around DR

Doesn't Kris have ultra manly apple scented shampoo in his bathroom though.

>>717244374
they think that kris is nonbinary because everybody calls them "they" and because kris is supposed to explicitly be their own character they MUST have chosen to be nonbinary and there's no other explanation... even though that was the same case in undertale? kris's "character" reveal and frisk's are just reversed in narrative order, which i think is interesting if you start looking at DR'a chapters through the lens of the backwards undertale theory, but all these trannies take it to mean is that OBVIOUSLY toby fox intends for kris to be nonbinary when there is literally zero proof for that.

we'll have confirmation when Kris rapes Noelle on screen in chapter 7

Kris' gender is ambiguous to obscure more of the prophesy with the whole girl part in there.

>>717244476
I have read Umineko. So I'm definitely literate.

>if Kris wanted to be a boy
Is that dude retarded or?...

>going on twitter to find people who disagree with you over singleplayer game, so you can get mad
why do you do this to yourself anons?

>>717244580
If I didn't know better, I might actually think that Kris just lives in a world where he's called "they" until saying otherwise, and just never cared enough to tell anyone he's normal.
Kind of like how no one knows Frisk's name until the pacifist ending.

>>717243885
>DO NOT RESPECT THE GENDER OF A PIXEL LIBERUL

>>717244642
Toby would never confirm Kris's gender, he would receive more backlash than the muslim community after 9/11

>>717241161 (OP)
"its so blatantly clear"?
He dresses like a man. He shares a room with his brother. He has zero feminine attributes, physical or mental, nor female hobbies. Genuinely aside from being called "they", is there a SINGLE fucking thing to indicate Kris as a girl?

>>717244838
her fat jiggly titties

>>717244838
Kris has no free will

>>717241161 (OP)
Kris is only a they/them because toby wants to help people self insert. He's very obviously a man.

>>717244838
Kris also spergs out like a boy and acts edgy.

>>717244838
Long hair.
Able to wear ribbons.

>>717244838
That hidden scene where she shoves the soul up her pussy for misbehaving.

>>717244838
>is canonically good at Smash Bros
confirmed male (autistic)

>>717244653
KILL YOURSELF

>>717241161 (OP)
nice twitter screencap asshole, go back

>>717244838
>He dresses like a man
if that's the case, then you have to admit all the shown so far are humans are boys

>>717245071
Except for Chara, yeah. She's too evil to be male.

>>717245071
I mean I love big titty female Chara fanart, but Chara is definitely a boy in the game itself.

>>717245071
Yes I know. All 3 humans are male. The idea that they could be female never even occured to me until I came to this website and encountered the people posting fanart of it.

If you look at this sprite and see a girl, you are mentally ill. Not much else to say on the subject.

Undertale/Deltarune was always nu-homestuck and they have the fanbase to prove it

>>717245108
what about frisk
>>717245085
>too evil to be male

>>717244996
>men can't have long hair
Weird how this gender stuff makes us so backwards and regressive.

>>717245126
What kind of boy name is Frisk?

>>717245126
I thought it was a little asian girl first time I played undertale. He doesn't really look like a dude.

I always just thought of Kris/Frisk as a open to interpretation / self insert of your childhood self, so they're a dude in my eyes.

but if people want to call them something else thats fine too, thats the point. if someone wants kris to be a tranny, thats fine too

having this mindset will get u pitchforked by retarded and unhinged deltarune fans.

>>717244996
as a man, i also have long hair and wear ribbons.
im also a faggot.
your point is null

I can't wait for the self insert character to become plot relevant in the bunker next chapter and people start scrambling to cope my bald guy is somehow nonbinary.

The 100% garenteed fact that Kris was originally supposed to be The Girl of the prophecy and them converting to they/them will be a plot relevant fact will completely destroy the minds of 99% of fans. It'll mind break the mtf trannies who self insert and see them as transfem, it'll mind break the cis male self inserters . It'll destroy the people who believe they/thems should NEVER have their real gender acknowledged. It'll make Suselle only shipper panic as they can no longer call Kris + girls ships homophobic. And the best part is that it's inevitable.

>>717244838
had sex with a student

>>717245309
Based.

>>717245354
Kris will never have his gender confirmed one way or another.

>>717244838
Depends whether or not Lancer's "Cookie and Wife" bit was meant to be a joke at Kris's Expense or not.
It was 100% at his expense.

it must be nice to be a Japanese fan and not have to deal with this shit

Chara is the cutest loli in vidya history.

>>717245354
Toby is never going to elaborate or indicate Kris's gender because it benefits him to leave it as is

technically all this "non-binary" push by fandom fanatics is actual fucking head canon that's being forced and policed because if people could freely decide on what gender Kris is most would just say male so you have tumblr faggots aggressively coordinate the non-binary push to force people to think one way and force it into being "canon"

you faggots just keep bringing this onto yourselves, what else is there to say

If Kris turns to the camera and says "I'm a girl", I'll already have Krita open and my drawing tablet ready. She's going to be drawn pregnant and addicted to Vessel cock.
Until then, Kris is a guy to me for my self-insert fantasies.

>>717245293
This. Ramb was right, player interpretation is the only true path.

ban twitter screencap
ban steamchart thread
ban SEA
ban India
ban Israel

>>717245606
What if Kris is a Barbie Doll?

>>717245407
meanwhile

>>717243338
>also pic rel
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but throwaway Lancer quotes have to be the least credible source you can come up with. He's literally the character who least understands how the world works.

>>717245407
I've always thought that a lot of trannies are deeply sexist because they seem to have an extremely stereotypical view on what a woman is supposed to be like

>>717245669
15pbp

>>717245759
alright then, so will butch ogrehons be better?

your fucking retarded psyop

>>717242587
Undertale is a better game because the writing isn't focused on high school children and there is at least some semblance of exploration, interaction, multiplicity in the environment you walk around in.
So far, Deltarune has just been a worse more linear copy Undertale with worse writing that obviously tries to placate the "fanbase" more than it tries to actually be interesting, funny or sincere. If anything, it just shows that Toby Fox is a one-trick pony

>>717245678
YOU COULDN'T FIND
YOUR COCK

>>717245759
They are.

>>717244838
He's very self consious about belonging and had zero male friends.

>>717241161 (OP)
Kris is a dude because i couldn't manage to masturbate to him

>>717245759
That's correct actually

>>717245958
He pretty clearly was friends with monster kid, and caring about belonging I don't see at all - he seems like he hates the idea of fitting in, and dislikes when you're too nice to people.

>>717246074
>monster kid
Woman

He clearly has issues about being a monster in a town of humans

>>717245759
Honestly, like 50% of it is just tumblr shitlordery. They get off on forcing other people to tip-toe around their bullshit, under threat of being ousted from the group.
It's a particular fembrained form of bullying.
A lot of the tranny thing is about control. It's about "I'm going to act in a way that is intentionally aggravating, and force you all to put up with it".

these threads are fucking atrocious now.

>>717244471
>nonspecified ethnicity
>no voice
>not even visible eyes as in generic self inserts japanese games
ok...

>>717244580
It was always obvious to me first time playing Deltarune that characters use "they/them" because of meta narrative reasons of not confirming Kris gender. The autistic tumblr troons never realised that characters that never met Kris (like Gerson) or who hated Kris (like his literal bully Susie) would unintentionally or intentionall misgender him? Yet everyone magically knows not to use he or she pronouns.

I don't think there's enough money on planet earth to brive me to even pretend to care about what other people think a fictional character is or isn't.

>>717246241
"meta narrative reasons" no. the more simple reason is that asking someone for their pronouns or gender identity or whatever the fuck is extremely unnatural or cringe, so no such conversation has ever or will ever take place in one of his games. thats the whole entire reason for it. toby is a progressive but he knows how to make it palatable.

>>717242163
You say that like everything else doesn't do the same shit. By comparison these games are drastically tamer, Gerson wouldn't even exist as a concept and would've been a wise actual tranny "woman" instead. The only thing about this game is the they/them shit and he is the literal only example and it is most likely for a "video game meta" reason. Dislike its tone and art and writing all you want but spend this effort on actual tranny shit instead.

>>717245259
Tumblerfags starts to understand that non binary is not a thing? And its just a femboy or a tomboy with mental illness?

>>717241161 (OP)
Kris is a dude because i managed to masturbate to him

>>717245727
I'll crossdress regardless of whether Jews want me to or not, anon.

>>717241612
/thread

But what if Kris were a girl?

>>717245414
>>717245557
That's the thing. Toby has ALREADY confirmed it. Between the sword in the prophecy panel and the Princess Ribbon gloves only fitting Kris in this fully predetermined adventure it's as clear and undeniable as Susie being purple. You can say whatever schizobable nonsense you want to deny it but it's set in stone.

>>717246335
even if this was true there's no evidence for it either way so it's pretty much a headcanon

>>717245632
>>717245293
I don't really understand this, I thought it was only for an allegory reason? But functionally they are genuinely their own characters, especially Chara and Kris, and he would reject you and your opinions. I feel like with Kris especially its almost like he's doing everything in his power to keep your knowledge about him to a minimum. With Frisk its harder to say but he chose to decide and do certain things, its not like y9u had free reign on him, you just had a choice between what he decided.

>>717245820
dumbass, what I meant is that they see a e kid liking skirts or dolls and immediately assume from this that he wants his hormones blocked and his dick chopped off . Also trannies look disgusting anyway so idgaf if they dress like princesses or like butch lesbians
>>717246205
that would explain why they are often so incredibly ugly

>>717246335
nah its bullshit
There would be like 99 ways to make goofy dumb character like Susie accidentaly slip and misgender Kris and then get corrected by Toriel or Asriel but it never happens because Toby is a Weeabo coomer who doesn't believe in this neo 999 genders shit. He only see Kris as male or female so that players could draw Kris as Anime protag or big breasted coom material. He himself see Kris as own self insertion as he literally treated Kris head as "your head"

>>717244838
other people aren't saying that they're a girl, just that they're nonbinary.

>>717246505
you are retarded

>>717246505
If it's to be taken litterally it still can easily Noelle, who can equip 2 swords.

>>717245293
>>717245632
But they're not meant to be someone about you can decide things, the gender you choose is irrelevant for example.
I can't believe how much everyone is obsessing over this, Toby just did it to hide the twist.

>>717245759
I know this isn't the place to discuss it, but this is genuinely the burning contradiction at the heart of modern transgenderism to the point that it's extremely likely future movements will look back on the modern one as violently regressive. I mean this isn't particularly unusual as far as poltical movements go, but the scale of this contradiction is as if the modern mainstream right wing movement still supported slavery in 2025. It's just a bafflingly regressive viewpoint for what should be such a progressive movement.

>>717244160
on the contrary, this is the way you sidestep the janny nuking your threads

>>717245259
But isn't it offensive to call a character non-binary if nothing indicates so? Or it only works in one direction?

>>717247208
Trannies are infallible.

>>717243918
I was wondering why they're being so retarded about it but quickly found out from what they're saying that it's all narcissism.
You'd see that they won't stop talking about how important Kris being that imaginary gender to those that claim to be that or some other bullshit, how by not bending the knee to their delusion you deny these idiots' existence by calling Kris "he".
Basically they don't give a shit about Kris himself they just want him as another "representation" crap to claim another win for their group.

Toby's fucking stupid for doing this. If Kris isn't meant to be that imaginary gender he's stupid for not revealing why or at least not giving hints he's not in case revealing it would be spoilers. And if he is meant to be that he's even more retarded, the fandom was already filled with plenty faggots why invite even more. If he has or ever would complain about the discourse he should know it's his fault first and foremost.
What a stupid ass timeline we're in that mental illness is coddled and pandered to.

>>717246989
western civilization status: SAVED

>>717241161 (OP)
Like most people on 4chan, I have a brain so small that it makes a peanut look like a watermelon by comparison, so I'm physically incapable of processing anything more complicated than a clearly defined black and white dichotomy. Therefore, if I encounter a subject that does not entirely fall under Category A or Category B, my microscopic brain undergoes a short circuit, and I must forcibly sort the offending subject into one of those two categories to put my mind at easy. This is why the concept of there being more than two genders agitates me and so many people here. It is a concept we literally cannot compute.

>>717246170
>monster kid is a woman
the buck toothed skater kid that says "dude" all the time is a woman

you are winding me up now. fuck off. kill yourself.

>>717247208
They believe that gender is a social construct, so treating everyone as non-binary by default is polite and sensible in their view.

>>717247413
They wear a cross necklace. As a teenager, that very much reads women.

>>717247271
Kris is not supposed to be a self-insert character, but he is supposed to be as broadly relatable as possible, that's why Toby dumped pretty much every childhood trauma he can get away with T rating on him, so that at least something will hit close to home for most people.

>>717247208
Calling a character nonbinary is fine because nonbinaries are oppressed but calling a nonbinary cis is unacceptable because it's taking away representation. That's why it's fine for them to call Susie transgender or some shit.
I am not being hyperbolic this is the bullshit they genuinely believe in.

>>717246907
>but this is genuinely the burning contradiction at the heart of modern transgenderism to the point that it's extremely likely future movements will look back on the modern one as violently regressive
How is that a contradiction? If transexuals are actually sexist, which is a argument you could try and have, how is that a contradiction? Spoiler alert: Feminists and transsexuals' rarely get along.

> but the scale of this contradiction is as if the modern mainstream right wing movement still supported slavery in 2025.
They do though. At least republicans do unambiguously support slavery.

>>717246423
It would make her way more sympathetic. Not just because women are inherently more sympathetic than men, but also because it would make Kris a failure of a women. Literally not even a cute tomboy.

Reminder that if Noelle and Alphys were male, literally everyone would've hated them.
Same applies to Roba

>>717241161 (OP)
I choose Frisk as a female, and Kris as male.

>>717243338
>>717244374
>>717244838
Troons are a disgrace to fandoms.

>>717247818
Noelle's behavior when Susie was bullying Kris would be even more wild if she was a man

>"This girl is telling my possibly female childhood friend that he deserves to die."
>"Should I do something about it?"
>"Lol no.
>"Also she's kind of hot."

>>717244261
Never understood this. Hardly anyone is "sexually ambiguous," and those who are are almost all female with short hair and baggy clothes. How can normal people identify with an androgynous, so called "non binary" guy if they themselves are not an androgynous, "non binary" guy? It makes no sense. A "non binary" character doesn't represent anyone. Troons are fucking ridiculous kek.

>>717247818
Dunno about hate but Noelle definitely wouldn't be as popular and the weird route, especially the bedroom scene in ch 4, wouldn't hit anywhere near as hard like not even half.
The reason it all works so well is because Kris feels so much like a boy and Noelle's the cute girl. It's the best way their dynamic can work.

>>717245759
this, their logic is regressive rather than progressive. it literally takes us backwards

>>717245820
use whatever weird ass jargon you want, you'll still be male at the end of the day