Thread 717242813 - /v/ [Archived: 142 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:55:41 AM No.717242813
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>remake comes next month
>Nobody cares
What happened?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:59:39 AM No.717243004
>>717242813 (OP)
no idea, I also have no idea what game that is
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:00:38 AM No.717243052
I care but I'm mad that a remake of a game I've already played pushed back the release date for a new game by six months.
Replies: >>717265491
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:01:30 AM No.717243093
>>717242813 (OP)
Who fucking cares about Trails? And who cares about Sky/Estelle? Not even Rean can save this from flopping
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:04:29 AM No.717243238
>>717243093
It would be so epic if we got to play as young Rean and see how the legend was made
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:12:40 AM No.717243607
>>717242813 (OP)
I love the original with all my heart, but i'm not buying a remake it was perfect
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:14:26 AM No.717243690
This remake will be smarter than FF7's if they don't add TIME JANNIE JAEGARS in to it.
but i also have a backlog and already played Estelle's game, so it might be awhile before I get around to buying/playing it...
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:17:27 AM No.717243864
>>717243238
I'm kinda expecting something like that to be honest, Kondo had to bring him back and make him even more special because Van flopped
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:27:35 AM No.717244323
>full 3d
>with Falcom's low budget
Soul lost.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:29:38 AM No.717244423
>>717242813 (OP)
It's a sequel.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:33:16 AM No.717244574
>Garfield Kart 2: All You Can Drift (PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC) - September 10
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter (PS5, Switch, PC) - September 19

i only have money for one of these

which should i get?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:34:06 AM No.717244610
>>717242813 (OP)
it looks like pokemon scarlet/violet and will probably perform like them too
Replies: >>717248329
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:35:48 AM No.717244716
>>717242813 (OP)
>No pantsu
>No loli pantsu
>Loli brothel retconned
>Rape is illegal
>Did I say no loli pantsu?
No thanks bruh.
Replies: >>717246821 >>717248340
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:37:30 AM No.717244787
>>717242813 (OP)
We already talked about it.
Definitely worth a try, it looks like this time Anelace gets more attention after Falcom straight up memory holing her for all this time.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:43:42 AM No.717245061
>>717243690
>He thinks Rean won't have future events knowledge like Aerith
Lmao
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:47:11 AM No.717245206
>>717242813 (OP)
is this turn based or real time?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:48:02 AM No.717245235
>>717245206
Yes
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:49:46 AM No.717245314
>>717242813 (OP)
Why would I need a remake when I like the original?
Replies: >>717272101
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:53:49 AM No.717245496
>>717245206
it's mainly turn-based but you can start most fights by having a real time action segment that you can use to stun the enemy and begin the turn-based part with an advantage. Basically a more elaborate version of the classic "attack the enemy in the field to initiate combat"
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:55:15 AM No.717245548
>>717242813 (OP)
im finally going to play it now that the graphics don't suck

let's hope the story is as good as /v/ has been hyping it for years
Replies: >>717248506
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:00:53 AM No.717245794
>>717242813 (OP)
>They've been 'Falcon' wrong for 3 decades
>Nobody cares
What happening?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:10:12 AM No.717246198
>>717245794
it was the style at the time
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:14:02 AM No.717246382
>>717242813 (OP)
looks like a ps2 game that's ported to ps3
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:22:40 AM No.717246780
I already played the original years ago why the fuck would I play this
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:23:33 AM No.717246821
>>717244716
I mean Tita doesn't wear a skirt, it's not her fault.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:23:46 AM No.717246831
>>717242813 (OP)
It's a remake
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:00:14 AM No.717248271
TowaKokonoe
TowaKokonoe
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>>717245794
Falcon + com(puter) = Falcom
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:00:54 AM No.717248296
>>717242813 (OP)
OG is still better
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:01:47 AM No.717248329
>>717244610
>it looks like pokemon scarlet/violet and will probably perform like them too
Not even Falcom games look, and run that bad.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:02:06 AM No.717248340
>>717244716
>Loli brothel retconned
Wasn't that in the third game?
Replies: >>717271768
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:02:59 AM No.717248369
>>717246831
Yeh, why aren't people excited about an amazing remake? Are they retards who'd ratjher play the latest fifa?
Replies: >>717265518
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:04:58 AM No.717248440
>>717246831
*demake
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:06:52 AM No.717248506
>>717245548
you're a moron trails stories are basically like ten a penny light novels you get your special self insert MC and his harem of girls and shitty villains who only exist to show that MC is the only good guy around for all the girls to fall in love with and other men around are either rapists, scumbags or drooling retards who make things worse for everyone they get involved with. People just think it's good because just like the Ys series, all Trails games are connected to each other, as if that matters, the Xeno franchise does it and Kingdom Hearts does it and we know how shit those franchises are
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:09:37 AM No.717248606
>>717248506
/v/ sold it to me as "Legend of the Galactic Heroes on earth"
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:14:02 AM No.717248759
>>717248506
Ok, but enough about Rean, haha...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:19:12 AM No.717248968
>>717248606
They were fucking lying to you, dumbass. That's all this board is for, lying and gaslighting, I honestly think we have bots on here with how telegraphed it all is.
Replies: >>717249000
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:19:54 AM No.717249000
>>717248968
how does it compare to Expedition 33?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:21:21 AM No.717249057
Announcing nordics better edition two days after I bought it fun office left a bad taste.
Replies: >>717249093
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:22:14 AM No.717249093
>>717249057
Thanks for beta testing
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:22:26 AM No.717249103
>>717248506
Actually the light novels are the ones ripping off of Trails.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:23:19 AM No.717249142
>>717242813 (OP)
loololololl I'll never buy a remake much less one for this garbage series
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:23:35 AM No.717249152
>>717242813 (OP)
I'm hyped for the porn
Replies: >>717249303
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:24:41 AM No.717249196
>>717242813 (OP)
This series is not able to be discussed on /v/, go to reddit
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:27:01 AM No.717249303
>>717249152
Tita porn
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 11:29:58 AM No.717249428
>>717248271
No, it's just Falcon as in Millenium Falcon but with an M because that's what was trendy at the time.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:19:16 PM No.717251480
>>717242813 (OP)
>replaced all the original VAs with literallywhos to save money, Joshua sounds like he's a 7 year old shota now
>entire OST replaced by Singa remixes
you tell me
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:29:54 PM No.717251903
>>717242813 (OP)
Cold Steel broke people who started with Sky.
Daybreak broke people who started with Cold Steel.
The Sky 1 remake is part of a trilogy yet they haven't started development on Sky 2's remake, and likely won't until 2027 or 2028.
Being 13 games long and with at least six more non-remake entries to go, you cannot convince new blood to pick up this series unless the idea of a never-ending story appeals to them. Even then, gachashit like HSR showed up to steal that audience.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:33:07 PM No.717252035
>>717242813 (OP)
People only like the Sky trilogy because of its soul

If you remove the soul what do you have left? Annoying tsundere bitch and crossdressing jokes?
Replies: >>717252418
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:36:02 PM No.717252176
I'm confused why this is just a remake of the 1st chapter which ends on a shitty cliffhanger.

They should have at least done 1 and 2 together so you could go immediately from this into Crossbell.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:41:24 PM No.717252418
>>717252035
Estelle isn't annoying though.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:42:27 PM No.717252471
>>717252176
>I'm confused why this is just a remake of the 1st chapter which ends on a shitty cliffhanger.

Money
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:44:06 PM No.717252520
>>717242813 (OP)
Iโ€™m not the target audience (I still have my penis).
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:45:08 PM No.717252550
>>717252418
She's annoying because she's not sitting on my face right now
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:53:25 PM No.717252919
>>717242813 (OP)
I care because Sky and Crossbell are the only good Trails games
Will pirate day one
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:55:55 PM No.717253030
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>>717242813 (OP)
I'll play it.
Sky Trilogy is the only kiseki I remotely care about.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:56:36 PM No.717253067
>>717242813 (OP)
no Rean, no buy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:57:15 PM No.717253091
>>717242813 (OP)
You'd think in 2025 most people have been sufficiently turned off of demakes, but there's a sucker born every minute
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:59:00 PM No.717253161
>>717249428
That would be Malcon
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:59:32 PM No.717253191
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>>717252919
if you don't like the way Falcom took the series with cold steel and calvard, why would you be optimistic about a remake of the games you did like in the style of cold steel and calvard?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:00:54 PM No.717253268
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>>717253191
>frogposter is making a good point
What has the world come to.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:15:51 PM No.717253959
>>717251903
>you cannot convince new blood to pick up this series unless the idea of a never-ending story appeals to them
that's true but probably 60%+ of the runtime of the entire trails series combined (which is probably in the region of thousands of hours) consists of quests like "Save the cat from the tree" and "Help the shopkeeper restock their stall". there's so much filler in these games it's unreal
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:20:42 PM No.717254210
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>>717242813 (OP)
Because:
>trannylated
>censored
It's that shrimple.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:27:16 PM No.717254537
>>717242813 (OP)
People have censored demake fatigue.
Replies: >>717254765
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:31:25 PM No.717254739
>>717253191
Because if there's one good thing about modern Trails is the combat system
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:32:02 PM No.717254765
>>717254537
What's even censored?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:33:54 PM No.717254847
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>>717242813 (OP)
It's a turbo weeb series that's like 15 games long and nothing ever happens. You have to be very very deep down the JRPG rabbit hole to ever bother with this. It's literally just watching stock anime characters repeat their same few personality quirks over and over.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:35:27 PM No.717254924
>>717254210
What was censored?
Replies: >>717257234
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:36:49 PM No.717254987
>>717254765
I don't know, I'm just assuming it is like every remake and I imagine I'm not the only person who thinks like this. Companies have completely lost consumer trust and goodwill.
Replies: >>717255157
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:39:20 PM No.717255095
>>717254210
It's a good translation unlike the shitty one from xsneed.
Replies: >>717257234
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:40:21 PM No.717255157
>>717254987
Most remakes aren't censored unless you mean western slop.
>implying any western slop is even worth remaking or remastering
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:41:48 PM No.717255206
>>717255157
Literally every remake that has come out of Japan in the past half a decade has been censored what the fuck are you talking about?
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 1:45:14 PM No.717255379
>no XSEED
I think not.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:02:20 PM No.717256221
>>717255206
>Trials of Mana
>Actraiser
>ghost and goblins
>romancing saga 2
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:05:49 PM No.717256394
>>717242813 (OP)
i care. probably not 70 dollar care, but definitely pirate care
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:15:44 PM No.717256890
>>717253959
More like 80-90%
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:23:43 PM No.717257234
>>717254924
Sorry you can't read the thread ADHD, retardbro, not like you won't just dismiss anything brought up anyway.
>>717255095
Absolutely not. This series is and forever will be poisoned by tranny localizers.
I can't be bothered caring about, let alone monetarily supporting this censored trannylated shit. Even if you can play with Japanese audio and whatnot these subhumans still get paid since they work for these companies.
That alone is enough to make me not want to support it. Get westoids out of Jap media.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:24:45 PM No.717257282
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>>717255157
>Most remakes aren't censored unless you mean western slop.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:27:28 PM No.717257397
>>717257234
Most jrpgs translations are bad, why the obsessing with this ip?
Replies: >>717257585
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:27:38 PM No.717257409
>>717242813 (OP)
No PS4 version, so I dont really give a shit.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:31:11 PM No.717257585
>>717257397
>why the obsessing with this ip?
I'm not though, ESLtard. This series isn't special or anything, it's one of many with this issue. Why are you acting like there's some crusade against it?
If you weren't a third worlder you'd realize from the intent behind my words at the end of my last post that I already stated it's an issue with Jap media as a whole.
>"Get westoids out of Jap media."
See? Back to the drawing board, now.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:32:20 PM No.717257640
>>717242813 (OP)
i already played the original but im still looking forward to it however i wont be buying day 1 cause the pc port is prolly gonna be ass
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:36:20 PM No.717257821
>>717257234
It's translated by koreans
Replies: >>717260348
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:37:08 PM No.717257861
>>717242813 (OP)
I won't support Falcom anymore.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:46:44 PM No.717258370
IMG_2337
IMG_2337
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I regret playing the original last year, I shouldโ€™ve waited for the remake, it looks fucking amazing.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:48:40 PM No.717258460
>>717248506
This so much, Iโ€™m glad I wasnโ€™t the only one extremely disappointed by those games.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 2:54:23 PM No.717258742
>>717242813 (OP)
Not playing female protagonist games. I only self insert as Rean
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:18:13 PM No.717260019
>>717242813 (OP)
falcom has dissappointed me for 10 years straight, there's no goodwill there anymore.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:24:34 PM No.717260348
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>>717257821
A lot of trannylators are of asian descent too, who gives a fuck? If the end result is that it's still censored, trannylated garbage, which it is, why does it matter "who" is responsible for it?
I'm so tired of blind consoomers retards like you and this >>717258370 dipshit hyping things up, or saying "trust me bro". Time and time and time again, all it does is burn anyone who actually gives a shit about these IPs that are getting raped.
If I had a nickel for every time one of you bootlickers told people that a remake/reboot/whatever the fuck they call it now is going to be okay because of some arbitrary reasoning, like some person/group/entity's involvement, I'd be a damn billionaire and I'm not exaggerating. You're all dumbass bots that don't actually see reality, as far as I'm concerned.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:25:26 PM No.717260394
>>717242813 (OP)
I care, but I don't talk about it on /v/ cause /v/ HATES trails and has to shit up every thread
Replies: >>717260639 >>717261693
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:28:18 PM No.717260549
>1st chapter
So it'll be as shit as the FF7 remake
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:29:51 PM No.717260639
>>717260394
Where do you talk about it, anon?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:32:04 PM No.717260764
>>717260549
Nooooo but it looks so nice and and and graphics and and and generic art style and and and casualized gameplay heckin' quality of life respecting the player's time :(((
Better pray that it doesn't have pants on head retarded retcons like FF7R, too. Shit's already looking grim.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:39:23 PM No.717261156
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>Nihon Falcomโ€™s president says that the team purposely went for an atmosphere that feels a bit different from the usual Trails series look. He hopes that The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 1st will become an attractive and easy-to-pick up entry into both the series and the RPG genre as a whole.
In regards to the style being different. This is all you need to know that it's being actively pozzed for normalfaggots and ironic weeaboos who hate anime. Just more "let's gain a broader audience" dogshit.
Of course dumb bastards blinded by nostalgia and hype will dismiss this without a thought, then seethe when real fans """"""""""ruin"""""""""" the upcoming threads in 1.5 months because they hate what happened to it. Never-fucking-ending cycle of shit eating of retards who can't stop living with rose tinted glasses and tourists.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:42:08 PM No.717261314
>hey so you know this thing that you liked but then turned into shit?
>Yeah we're going back to remake the thing you liked so its also shit!
death to all zoomers and their remakes
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:43:20 PM No.717261390
>>717260348
Gungho is based. Their mobile games had uncensored loli nipples.
Replies: >>717262307 >>717272947
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:47:08 PM No.717261606
>>717242813 (OP)
I'm waiting for it, finished sky FC years ago anyway
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:48:29 PM No.717261693
>>717260394
Those are FEtrannies raiding every other jrpg, meanwhile they are okay with their shitty trannylation and will shill fe4 remake even if it gets censored
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:51:36 PM No.717261878
>>717261156
They are literally using a faithful translation this time
>then seethe when real fans """"""""""ruin"""""""""" the upcoming threads in 1.5 months
You are just a shitposter preparing in advance, you were going to ruin the threads no matter what
Replies: >>717262307
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:59:38 PM No.717262307
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>>717261390
>they're based dude trust me
Again, faggot, I don't give a shit. Also
>gachatroonery
Spare me the chicanery and dick sucking. You're exactly the kind of subhuman I detailed earlier. This medium would be way better off if all gachatroons died years ago, and I'm not even saying that to be abrasive or anything. It's just objective fact.
>n-no dude, t-they were heckin' b-based and red-p-pilled in the past, they'll never be pozzed evar!!1!1
It speaks volumes that you faggots just constantly feed into these demake hype machines that will never, ever, ever live up to their own lofty promises. And then, as I said earlier, you'll all cry when real, OG fans swing by in the upcoming threads and say this shit sucks balls, since it will.
Fucking repulsive that none of you autists can ever just wait until something actually releases to see if it's good, you just have to shill and advertise for censored pozzed garbage (for FREE) before it releases. Then, when it's not all it's cracked up to be, you'll lament at the criticism.
>>717261878
Already knew this cope was coming. As I said earlier, if I had a nickel every time one of these "promises" was made, I'd be filthy rich. Especially if it's in regards to being """"faithful"""" in a translation or, "totes not censoring anything guys haha ;)"
You're just a faggot preparing in advance to dismiss any valid criticism of a relentlessly hyped up demake, that no one actually wanted, besides normaltroons and ironic weeaboos who hated Trails beforehand, who need that "easy point of entry" after it's been pozzed for Global Audiencesโ„ข, like it was confirmed to be.
You've already convinced yourself it'll be good, better than the original, despite constant red flags popping up in interviews. This has happened for-fucking-ever with every single remake of other IPs before this, and will continue happening to all other IPs going forward.
It's all so predictable. I bet vidya corpos are glad they have such ardent, free dicksuckers online
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:00:28 PM No.717262351
I lost interest in the series long ago. Sky is probably the least bad arc but it's still tied to the rest and I don't really see the point.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:01:24 PM No.717262402
>>717242813 (OP)
>What happened?
The series went to shit.
Every other game is pure filler since Erebonia arc.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:04:01 PM No.717262563
1f2d248f87ee530c6293823dc07391f1
1f2d248f87ee530c6293823dc07391f1
md5: 9426188d44f1d284eaeb1975c3d63bbc๐Ÿ”
>>717242813 (OP)
Don't spoil it. I want to see people experience all the batshit insane twists and all the things that are secretly good about this game for the first time again.
Replies: >>717262604
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:04:34 PM No.717262604
>>717262563
>all the batshit insane twists
You mean just the one giant cliff hanger at the end of the game?
Replies: >>717262731
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:06:32 PM No.717262721
>>717242813 (OP)
I unironically like these characters.

I got to cold steel II and dropped the series. Just can't put myself through it. I'll probably play this since it's Sky arc though.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:06:42 PM No.717262731
>>717262604
Nope. You are misremembering, this game is full of complete tonal shifts and wild bullshit.
Replies: >>717263605
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:06:45 PM No.717262734
>>717262307
>uncensored loli nipples in their games
>not based
??????????
Replies: >>717263886
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:10:39 PM No.717262959
The funniest part is that the current Calvard arc has more advanced technology than the flying city in Sky SC.
Replies: >>717263708 >>717266562 >>717273618
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:18:43 PM No.717263474
>>717242813 (OP)
>nobody cares
As it SHOULD be.
Trails 1's story sucks BALLS for 90% of it. Now wake me up when Trails 2's remake KINO actually drops. That's when things pick up a lot
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:20:57 PM No.717263605
>>717262731
Suck a dick faggit, theres only maaaaybe 2 big twists near the end of the game, everything else was a drag and """"""worldbuilding""""" bs and character intros.

2 has many more twists than 1 did, even tho the big twist in 1 was bigger/ more impactful than the ones in 2
Replies: >>717264002
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:22:35 PM No.717263698
>>717251903
>unless the idea of a never-ending story appeals to them
Yeah this is what's filtering me, even though I like everything else about Sky and Crossbell on paper.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:22:44 PM No.717263708
>>717262959
All this has happened before, and all this will happen again
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:23:27 PM No.717263750
>>717242813 (OP)
I care that is why im gonna commission Estelle porn
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:23:35 PM No.717263765
>>717258370
>i regret playing the OG
Do you? you DID play the fully voiced version of the game right?
Speaking of which, does anyone know if this remake will be FULLY voiced like that special Trails 1 japanese one? or just selective voice acting bs like always?
Replies: >>717264104
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:25:56 PM No.717263886
>>717262734
How daft are you? I don't give a shit. I've been told the same "dude, they did this ultra heckin' based and redpillerinoed shit in the past!" bullshit time and again. Surprise, time and again, it ends up being pozzed crap. Every fucking remake/remaster/reboot, without exception, has been censored, pozzed garbage.
Like I said, stop hyping shit up that hasn't released, you inbred sperg. It will never live up to the hype and shilling. This is the entire problem with the industry. You retards enable the pozzing, because "Well, I liked what they did in the past!"
Ever heard of being pragmatic? Why the fuck does "good past behavior" factor into you preordering and shilling this remakeslop endlessly? Or new entries into a series? It's why Pokemon has been bad for years now, despite cutting more and more content, more broken gimmick shit, more bugs and adding DLC cancer to the mainline games. Retards STILL keep buying them because "Well, I liked what the devs did in the past :^)))"
Imagine... having self control... whoa... retard faggot...
Replies: >>717264425 >>717264545
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:26:09 PM No.717263902
>>717242813 (OP)
Considering how bad the story has been since Cold Steel i have been wondering if there was a massive staff change within Falcom or the story was always bad and i was just a dumb when i played Trails in the Sky.
Replies: >>717264727 >>717264829 >>717266762 >>717270459 >>717272659 >>717274115
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:26:37 PM No.717263931
>>717243004
Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:27:45 PM No.717264002
oguri-cap-uma-musume
oguri-cap-uma-musume
md5: 584d311452683e0c33779a5feb40678c๐Ÿ”
>>717263605
Did you forget about kneecapping scene? Good lord, imagine how much the boat chase scene is going to get spammed everywhere.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:27:46 PM No.717264004
>>717242813 (OP)
Trannies have no loyalty to anything they appropriate
Replies: >>717274227
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:28:57 PM No.717264097
>>717242813 (OP)
FC is a shit game. Why the fuck would I pay to play it again?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:29:07 PM No.717264104
>>717263765
Selective with dialogues where only 1 character out of 5 will be voiced.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:33:38 PM No.717264358
Fully modeled maid Joshua.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:34:36 PM No.717264425
>>717263886
You are one silly retard ok.
Replies: >>717265084
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:36:33 PM No.717264545
>>717263886
>Imagine... having self control...
ironic innit?
Replies: >>717265084
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:38:14 PM No.717264650
>>717249428
It was trendy because COMputer games were trendy you fucking retard
Replies: >>717265861
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:39:33 PM No.717264727
>>717263902
theres been multiple staff changes and they started mass outsourcing writing starting with cs3
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:40:31 PM No.717264789
1605184982663
1605184982663
md5: 46419a8a5963634708093f19f7473556๐Ÿ”
>>717242813 (OP)
It doesn't need a remake. It also wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be some alt reality situation, and Rean shows up at the end to save Loewe or something and nothin personnels Weissman so that Kevin doesn't salt him. Kevin then tries to apprehend him, but he just no sells his stigmata and disappears mysteriously.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:41:11 PM No.717264827
>>717260549
TitS was already 3 parts originally, it wasn't like FF7 where they took one game and made it 3 in the remake.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:41:12 PM No.717264829
>>717263902
Trails in the Sky didnt have a story to write home about either. SC was particularly pretty bad because of the amount of time Sieg bailed out the party, shit always bothered me, but it did have characters. Estelle was a good character to follow, Agate was great, Olivier was great, Zin/Zane was cool, Kevin was a great protaganist, Richard was a justified antagonist and they addressed that, giving him a satisfying character arc as well. Weissman made for a good villain in SC as well.

The story wasnt amazing, but there were enough good moments and music between the fluff to make it worth playing. The problem later games have is that the cast of characters are even more shallow than Sky's, which a lot of them werent really winning awards to begin with, and even the returning characters either had their stories told and take up too much screen time, like Lloyd in Hajimari, or are just actively made worse

Crossbell had Randy and Tio, and while girls such as Elie, Noel, and Rixia were hot, those characters were completely worthless. Rixia only ever comes back to have her tits grow another two sizes with each game release, which is based. Class VII, and Nu Class VII sans Altina, and Musse had similar issues, and Musse's character had a lot of chaff and dogshit to reach anything interesting.

Daybreak could have fixed this but they decided to not have any of the characters other than Quatre, Swin, Nadia, and Renne do anything, with the later 3 being some especially retarded shit.

tl;dr- the cast of the games have gotten worse and it becomes harder to mask how bad the general story writing is when you cant write characters that are remotely competent
Replies: >>717265126 >>717276203 >>717276424
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:45:18 PM No.717265084
>>717264425
Hilarious, considering your blind faith, all because one group wasn't totally gay: one time. Yes, one singular time, and they've earned your undying respect and confidence that it won't get pozzed.
You'd maybe have a point here if they had a track record over several years, especially in the last few months, of not being pozzed. I couldn't care less about gachaslop though.
>IT'S BASED IT'S BASED IT'S BASED IT'S SAVING GAMING
You are paying out the ass for crumbs of T&A, but okay retard, whatever you say. Meanwhile homos and troons get fanservice galore in all new games, without paying an extra cent.
Don't worry though, I'll make sure to quote you in 1.5 months when they inevitably kept in all the old quip cancer and unfunny trannylated memes you ironic weeb normalfaggots all love from the OG trannylation, just to say "I told you so." I know it's going to happen without fail, as I said, it's predictable.
>>717264545
>n-no u
Doesn't work that way, retardbro.
This remake has done all the same bad shit before release that every other one that's burned OG fans has done. Worrisome interviews, a complete change in aesthetics/art style, empty promises about "faithful" translations and dodging questions about censorship.
How many times do you have to look down the barrel, with the hammer pulled back, before you realize it's a bad idea?
Replies: >>717267115
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:45:59 PM No.717265126
>>717264829
this
trails always had shit plot writing but in sky they made you care about the characters which they completely forgot how to do in every other arc afterwards
Replies: >>717272192
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:46:04 PM No.717265130
Reminder that the idiots complaining about the game are retarded schizos that unironically think rpg maker and square games are good.
Replies: >>717265183
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:47:06 PM No.717265183
>>717265130
>autistic, extremely bitter strawman + dismissal
Ironic.
Replies: >>717265449
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:47:09 PM No.717265185
Sky is the only time that the so called amazing worldbuilding of the series actually felt cohesive and like they put thought into it. In every other it arc it just feels like an ever increasing kitchen sink of random shit that all clashes with eachother.
Replies: >>717265462 >>717265662
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:49:55 PM No.717265373
>>717260549
FFVII remake is godtier tho
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:49:57 PM No.717265378
>>717243690
>>717245061
Worse, it will be Van and co. since they're the time travel group.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:50:59 PM No.717265449
>>717265183
There is nothing to dismiss, you're already ignoring counterpoints while vomiting out the same tired text walls you post in every single Falcom thread. You're like that retard that complained about BG3 nonstop.
Replies: >>717265869
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:51:13 PM No.717265462
>>717265185
The increasing amount of memberberry stuff like shoehorning the old cast into every new game (LOOK LOOK IT'S REAN PLEASE BUY THE GAME, WE'LL EVEN THROW ESTELLE AND JOSHUA RANDOMLY IN THE AREA) is a sad indictment of how little faith they have in their own ability to create new characters that people care about sadly
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:51:36 PM No.717265491
>>717243052
This.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:51:54 PM No.717265518
>>717248369
FIFA games are also remakes and remasters of each other.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:53:21 PM No.717265608
>>717251480
>entire OST replaced by Singa remixes
Kino??
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:54:19 PM No.717265662
>>717265185
they changed everything to be more modern to appeal to popular psp trends and there was a huge internal staff argument over it but the ceo won
then cold steel suddenly is set in an japanese high school despite the setting being incredibly western because battle harems were popular at the time
they didnt give a shit
Replies: >>717265737 >>717269732 >>717274346
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:54:22 PM No.717265664
>>717253959
Filler is the point of these games.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:55:08 PM No.717265718
>>717242813 (OP)
i care more about nortubel
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:55:27 PM No.717265737
>>717265662
>>they changed everything to be more modern to appeal to popular psp trends and there was a huge internal staff argument over it but the ceo won
>then cold steel suddenly is set in an japanese high school despite the setting being incredibly western because battle harems were popular at the time
>they didnt give a shit

True but maybe more depressing than any of that is the fact that it actually worked
Replies: >>717265774
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:55:56 PM No.717265774
>>717265737
yeah well the average weeb is a literal retard
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:57:12 PM No.717265861
>>717264650
https://shmuplations.com/ys/
The com in falcom isn't short for computer.
Replies: >>717266721
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:57:19 PM No.717265869
>>717265449
>ignoring counterpoints
Ah yes, the "argument" of "THEY WERE BASED B-B-BECAUSE GACHA!" Fuck dude, you owned me there! Sarcasm aside, you can't be serious, right faggot? What """""counterpoints"""""?
>muh good behavior one time
?
That is not an argument. It's simply you idiots admitting that you're just the kind of blind faith, absolutely autistic subhuman consoomers that ruined the medium, which I wrote disparagingly about thus far.
>that retard that complained about BG3 nonstop
Schizo or newfag tourist? Thinking the latter, since you're complaining about having an actual discussion, instead of "conversing" through epic reddit one-liners. Yeah, I can tell this board blowing up at that safe horny faggotslop that is bearfucker3 really got you mad, too.
Seriously, tell me what "counterpoint" you or that dumbfuck even had to anything I brought up. All you did was handwave, you dishonest faggot. Like this
>Worrisome interviews, a complete change in aesthetics/art style, empty promises about "faithful" translations and dodging questions about censorship.
part in my last post. Completely ignored, just to handwave again.
Remake consoomers are the fucking worst.
Replies: >>717266390 >>717266607 >>717266956
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:05:10 PM No.717266390
>>717265869
Sorry, but you're deeply autistic, and not the good kind.
Replies: >>717266497
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:06:24 PM No.717266478
>>717242813 (OP)
Is it switch exclusive or is it coming to pc?
Replies: >>717267075
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:06:40 PM No.717266497
>>717266390
>dodges again
Wholly unexpected from a faggot that just wants to think this shit is going to be good no matter what and browbeat any naysayers who have valid criticisms.
Swing from a rope
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:07:51 PM No.717266562
>>717262959
They were developing the internet back in FC. Then Crossbell jumped the shark and the rest gave no shits about making artifact tech common place.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:08:27 PM No.717266607
>>717265869
Embarrassing post, calm down, breathe and use better arguments instead of belittling others with petty insults
Replies: >>717267612
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:10:00 PM No.717266716
>>717251480
>Joshua sounds like he's a 7 year old shota now

I mean he practically is.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:10:04 PM No.717266721
>>717265861
>The com in falcom isn't short for computer.
uhhhhhhh
>at that time the โ€œ~comโ€ suffix was very popular in the industry
>at the time when COMputers were all the rage
>including the uprise of COMputer games
>no still just a total concidence haha
Replies: >>717267090
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:10:40 PM No.717266762
>>717263902
Crossbell killed the franchise's pacing.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:11:44 PM No.717266834
1742286271066501
1742286271066501
md5: 049c9d7a6df2297f39f2bc38c55b097c๐Ÿ”
How likely is it that we will have Rean-sensei cameo?
Replies: >>717267103 >>717267371 >>717268643
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:12:43 PM No.717266894
>>717262307
Now post or depressed cat
Replies: >>717267612
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:13:29 PM No.717266956
>>717265869
>Yeah, I can tell this board blowing up at that safe horny faggotslop that is bearfucker3 really got you mad, too.
>outting yourself immediately
Replies: >>717267612
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:15:15 PM No.717267075
8465283046_2895716_c697568d5193db0e9a8a2df7ac651250
8465283046_2895716_c697568d5193db0e9a8a2df7ac651250
md5: 3b1ad87ceb2303c15a9064f8f164e1a6๐Ÿ”
>>717266478
It will be on PC but you will need a 5090 to run it.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:15:37 PM No.717267090
1739325834724664
1739325834724664
md5: ef5ef643401e871e9a96b264b0799151๐Ÿ”
>>717266721
Anon do you have reading problems? The com in Falcom isn't a shortening of anything, it's just a play on Falcon because they were thinking of the Millenium Falcon from Star Wars. Com was just a popular suffix but in Falcom's case it isn't short for Computer.

This isn't like Capcom which is just a shortening of "Capsule Computer", Falcom were just following the trend.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:15:46 PM No.717267103
>>717266834
He isn't a sensei yet.
Worst they can do is casually mention a boy who learns the same fighting style as Anelace.
Replies: >>717267362
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:15:56 PM No.717267115
>>717265084
nta, you're a pathetic subhuman that cares more about politics than video games, kill yourself
Replies: >>717267612
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:16:09 PM No.717267127
Ugh
Ugh
md5: bac7925e9f28b407a6d6098dd57e2f6b๐Ÿ”
>Estelle's english voice
Replies: >>717274458
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:17:52 PM No.717267253
I used to think FF fags were behind the shitposting but holy shit turnbased fags really hate their own jrpgs
Replies: >>717267374 >>717268223
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:19:25 PM No.717267362
1731003706754519
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md5: 168ca042f6a374f62b5c033b15c1561a๐Ÿ”
>>717267103
I have a feeling they will go full FF7 remake and this will be a sequel to what happened with Kai kek I don't trust Kondom
Replies: >>717267453
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:19:40 PM No.717267371
>>717266834
They'd sooner shoehorn Van and other calvard references in. The most that will happen from CS is a reference to Ash in SC when talk about Hamel and an allusion to Rean as an extra 8L1B student.
Replies: >>717267565
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:19:41 PM No.717267374
>>717267253
1% of posters are responsible for 90% of shitposting
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:20:08 PM No.717267402
I unironically enjoyed Cold steel 1 waaaaaay more than Trails 1 dogshit (except its kino as fuck last hour or so).
Now Trails 2 is an overall great game, and prooobably better than CS1. (i havent finished CS2 yet).
Psssst... Trails 3 is overrated shit. There i said it
Replies: >>717269582 >>717269979
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:20:55 PM No.717267453
>>717267362
Game is releasing in the West before Horizon so it makes your theory impossible, Falcom might be retarded but not THAT retarded
Replies: >>717267606
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:21:56 PM No.717267496
1736087715575018
1736087715575018
md5: 55b27a9500e06a224a78bf55dc9a903f๐Ÿ”
Trails character design peaked here
Replies: >>717268226 >>717269825
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:22:41 PM No.717267558
Maid
Maid
md5: 70db7d26c0922ceb814d5816bf499458๐Ÿ”
Soon.
Replies: >>717267609
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:22:48 PM No.717267565
>>717267371
are you serious lmfao kondo is constantly frothing at the mouth at the idea of more rean he talks about rean in interviews more than he does van for the new games
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:23:25 PM No.717267606
1740680687158407
1740680687158407
md5: 79ed9bed4c03764e9bac09df82d48d05๐Ÿ”
>>717267453
>not THAT retarded
Haha...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:23:26 PM No.717267609
>>717267558
Estelle is so lucky...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:23:28 PM No.717267612
1740222711856919
1740222711856919
md5: 64a6231e76b123d1ab871395f8ccb618๐Ÿ”
>>717266607
>>717266956
>so mad for getting called out on his dodging, dismissive faggotry he's responding multiple times now
>"EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE ON 4CHAN IS THE SAME PERSON!!!!"
Absolutely pathetic, but expected from remake consoomers/tourists. Lurk moar, and come back when you have an actual counterpoint.
And no, reddit one-liner dismissals don't count. Address this
>This remake has done all the same bad shit before release that every other one that's burned OG fans has done. Worrisome interviews, a complete change in aesthetics/art style, empty promises about "faithful" translations and dodging questions about censorship.
this part or you're a faggot.
>>717266894
Meds? Meds.
>>717267115
>politics is when I get told not to hype up and advertise a pozzed demake
At least you held yourself back from crying about /pol/, tourist tranny. You still need to blow your brains out, though.
Replies: >>717267732 >>717267980 >>717268293
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:24:11 PM No.717267649
>>717244323
>full 3d
>it looks decent
huh what in the black magic is this?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:25:33 PM No.717267732
>>717267612
Are you bored or just schizophrenic? Take a step back and look at your demented post again man
Replies: >>717268770
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:29:31 PM No.717267980
>>717267612
No one is telling you to hype and advertise a "pozzed demake". people are just telling you to get the fuck out of the thread, subhuman. You don't care about the series, and this mass replying is literal schizo behaviour 100% of the time.
Replies: >>717268438 >>717268770
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:30:25 PM No.717268050
>>717242813 (OP)
I already beat chapter 1 PC port a few months ago, fuck ass company can't remake all the chapters and decide to remake chapter 1 right after I beat it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:33:00 PM No.717268223
>>717267253
Like it was obvious that wasn't the case, they claim to want more tb games on FF threads but as soon as other TB games get threads they get doomposted to death
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:33:04 PM No.717268226
>>717267496
discount yuffie
Replies: >>717268647
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:34:06 PM No.717268293
>>717267612
kys FEtroon
Replies: >>717268770
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:34:36 PM No.717268324
>>717242813 (OP)
Holy fuck its daiwa scarlet
Replies: >>717268541
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:36:23 PM No.717268438
>>717267980
You pretty much are going to see the same schizo as soon as the new tales of or dragon quest are announced
You are only allowed to talk about pokemon, Xenoblade or Fe here
Replies: >>717268935
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:38:06 PM No.717268541
__myoudou_mei_milk_factory_and_1_more_drawn_by_akagi_rio__efd4f5b0da3fa7d7890a4544beeeee47
>>717268324
Haha...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:39:23 PM No.717268643
>>717266834
Surprised they haven't revealed him yet, I doubt he won't be in Kloes academy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:39:28 PM No.717268647
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>>717268226
Discount/store brand version of an iconic, perfect design? Could do worse like they did for every game after
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:41:18 PM No.717268770
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>>717267732
>>717268293
>ad hominem schizo dismissal
Thanks for admitting you suck cocks. I've asked you to address a simple point about the demake being censored and trannylated multiple times, and every time you shitpost instead.
>>717267980
>No one is telling you to hype and advertise a "pozzed demake"
Legitimately not what I said, at all, ESLtard. You few shill retards are telling me, however, that I should just blindly trust that the demake is going to be "based and redpilled", due to arbitrary, wildly retarded reasoning. Still waiting on you to quote these supposed "counterpoints" that exist, by the way.
>You don't care about the series
Cute projection, but remake consoomers are the ones that don't care, "because it's more of [series]! I LOVE [series]! I love what they did in the past! They were so based and redpilled! Buy the game!"
>demake turns out to be shit, as expected
"NOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S BAD THAT'S SHITPOSTING! HAVING NEGATIVE OPINIONS IS SHITPOSTING!"
Kill yourself, seriously.
>mass replying
Yep, tourist tranny. You just have to be. Organic users of this site have never once complained about this, and this buzzword has only shown up in recent years.
I'm not going to wait out multiple post cooldowns when you respond to my post 900 times in a row, with your same broken English, and with your retarded nonsense posts due to your poor English comprehension. Like you misunderstanding me, thinking I said anything about you trying to make me shill the demake (??????), when I never said that at all.
You do realize how retarded this makes you sound, yeah? Please don't respond again until you retake English 101, dude.
Replies: >>717268960
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:43:35 PM No.717268935
>>717268438
DQ is already guaranteed to be pozzed too, though? It's highly likely it will do away with the turn based combat, and it will have canon homo relationships with the player character, after the localization for 11 forced that headcanon.
That series has also been relentlessly censored to appeal to westoids, this was literally confirmed by the creator of Dragon Quest last year in an interview he did, along with a former Shounen Jump executive, for fuck's sake.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:44:02 PM No.717268960
>>717268770
>This autism whenever people want to discuss a game that's not pokemon, xenoblade or fire emblem
Too fucking obvious
Replies: >>717269057 >>717269374
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:44:06 PM No.717268963
he's completely unhinged, what a pitiful existence
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:45:27 PM No.717269057
>>717268960
>>717209668
Despite the bad translation and pozzed shit they can have threads, interesting
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:47:41 PM No.717269238
Am I the only one who thinks the technology difference between Calvard, Erebonia, Crossbell and Liberl is weird as fuck.
>Liberl is fantasy tech with some outliers
>Erebonia is early-mid 1900s
>Crossbell is mid 2000s
>Calvard is 2020s
Replies: >>717269421
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:49:46 PM No.717269374
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>>717268960
I literally shit on pokemonfags in this chain for being consoomers too, retard. Not your boogeyman.
I've also shit on Xeno and FE fags in the past for excusing all their censorship, and literal gay shit in the latter, as well. Try again, ESLtard, and actually read the fucking chain.
Embarrassing.
Replies: >>717269441 >>717270132
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:50:24 PM No.717269421
>>717269238
Don't question it anon.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:50:34 PM No.717269441
>>717269374
nobody wants to read your posts in full because you're more focused on being incendiary than making coherent points and it's exhausting to read
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:52:41 PM No.717269582
>>717267402
>Trails 3 is overrated shit
Agreed. Rean's students are some of the most pathetic, petty little faggots ever.
Replies: >>717269614
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:53:11 PM No.717269614
>>717269582
He means Sky the 3rd
Replies: >>717269692
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:54:08 PM No.717269692
>>717269614
I realised that and deleted my post... Point still stands tho
Replies: >>717269890
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:54:36 PM No.717269732
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>>717265662
>incredibly western
What lol, Trails is based on Asian countries. Sky is based on Thailand for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_coups_in_Thailand
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:55:49 PM No.717269825
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>>717267496
Agreed
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:56:31 PM No.717269868
>>717242813 (OP)
The "good" translation will make the game less fun, search your feelings you know it's true.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:56:44 PM No.717269890
>>717269692
Sure, CS3 literally made me drop the series. Twice even.
It's unfortunate because I did like CS1, and didn't mind Rean much until he became a teacher.
Replies: >>717270323 >>717270441
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:57:43 PM No.717269979
>>717267402
I hate 3rd. It feels like edgy fanfiction and tonally doesn't fit the rest of the series at all.
Replies: >>717270823 >>717274827 >>717275472
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:59:43 PM No.717270132
>>717269374
Sure, let's see your post in Fe and pokemon threads then, show it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:01:12 PM No.717270254
>>717242813 (OP)
>remake of the worst trails game
nobody asked for this
Replies: >>717270321
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:02:03 PM No.717270321
>>717270254
many people did actually, seeing as the originals are stuck on old gen thanks to XSEED
Replies: >>717270408 >>717270970 >>717271984
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:02:05 PM No.717270323
>>717269890
It's not so much that he's a teacher now.. it's how 90% of his class are either saying
>But duurr... He's not that strong, it's all the armour! Him beating our asses without it doesn't count!
or
>Hmmph, I'm a better swordsman than Rean will ever be even though he's mastered an esoteric sword style that few know and can kill dozens of men in a single blow. Hmmph!
Replies: >>717270435
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:03:02 PM No.717270408
>>717270321
>seeing as the originals are stuck on old gen thanks to XSEED
they're all on Steam though?
Replies: >>717270519
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:03:19 PM No.717270435
>>717270323
almost like they're teenagers with self-esteem issues haha...
Replies: >>717270840
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:03:30 PM No.717270441
>>717269890
CS3 and 4 are where Rean is best characterised though
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:03:41 PM No.717270459
>>717263902
Falcom is a revolving door of employees as no one wants to deal with the company's infamously bad management. Most of their new hires are Chinese Trails fans.
Replies: >>717270627
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:04:26 PM No.717270519
>>717270408
only losers game on a fucking computer lmao a keyboard is for working not for playing
Replies: >>717271072
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:05:30 PM No.717270609
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>>717242813 (OP)
weebshit isn't worth a replay, and a butchered remake of a kusoge isn't worth a second glance.
Replies: >>717270957
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:05:45 PM No.717270627
>>717270459
why is Trails big in China?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:06:16 PM No.717270656
so the games getting a retranslation that doesnt make Estelle like a retard like she does in the original localization?
Replies: >>717270791
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:06:38 PM No.717270698
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Alfin is best girl
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:07:55 PM No.717270791
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>>717270656
Instead she's gonna keep repeating "W-What did you say!?" every other line
So based and epic
Replies: >>717271054 >>717271203 >>717271250
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:08:24 PM No.717270823
>>717269979
>I hate 3rd. It feels like edgy fanfiction
uh, it's not the edgyness that annoyed me about The Third, it's more about those FUCKING DOOOORS!!
goddamnit, i almost fell asleep reading endless dialogue for HOURS on some of those dogshit doors.
>inb4 hurr durr the doors are the best part
Huh?? how?? many are either backstory crap who gives a shit, others are just useless minigames. Fuck the doors.
Replies: >>717272487
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:08:38 PM No.717270840
>>717270435
One of them is just an arrogant shit bird, another constantly blames Rean for something he had no control over. Also, they are literally two years younger than him.
Replies: >>717270982
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:08:56 PM No.717270859
>>717251480
>>entire OST replaced by Singa remixes
dropped instantly
thank you for bringing this to my attention
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:10:10 PM No.717270957
>>717270609
>weebshit isn't worth a replay
This is very arguable
>kusoge
very correct about Trails 1. 90% of it is overrated trash
Replies: >>717272703
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:10:22 PM No.717270970
>>717270321
It's fucked that XSEED is holding the publication rights of them and CS1&2 hostage.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:10:34 PM No.717270982
>>717270840
but that conflict is what makes it FUN
why would you want an entire class of Rean glazers
the friction is what leads to tension and drama
Replies: >>717271165
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:10:48 PM No.717270998
>>717242813 (OP)
Do I have to wait a year before the global version tho?
Replies: >>717271067
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:11:36 PM No.717271054
>>717270791
>endless 'ANDESUTEEEEEEE?!
end my life. I wonder how the eng dub will handle that stupid overused line
Replies: >>717271256
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:11:43 PM No.717271067
>>717270998
No, Sky 1st marks the first time a Trails game releases worldwide
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:11:49 PM No.717271072
>>717270519
well good thing you don't need to use a keyboard to play video games on PC then
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:13:04 PM No.717271162
>>717251903
They should be able to easily shit out Sky remakes since SC and 3rd both get 90% of their assets from FC lmao
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:13:08 PM No.717271165
>>717270982
Honestly, I kinda get why anon doesn't like them. Mainly because I remember one scene where they kept challenging Rean and he laughed it off and declined... Leading to them spending the next several hours insisting he's a coward and that they are gonna kill him if given the chance... And this was AFTER he handed them their asses.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:13:46 PM No.717271203
>>717270791
faithful translation is SOVL
Replies: >>717271261
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:16 PM No.717271250
>>717270791
why would you translate it differently everytime? isnt it meant to be a catchphrase?
Replies: >>717271796
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:21 PM No.717271256
>>717271054
It's a cute catchphrase.
That said, they will probably go for something boring or a corruption of "what?"
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:25 PM No.717271258
Honestly I think it's weird how the class from CS3 became Rean's biggest simps after hating his guts for 80% of the game.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:29 PM No.717271261
>>717271203
Maybe on planet Retard
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:14:59 PM No.717271301
>>717242813 (OP)
I played translation on PSP loved it then had to wait a year for SC and by then I forgot everything tried playing FC again and stopped like 20% in. I tried this again 2 times.

I am not falling for this again.
Replies: >>717271409
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:15:16 PM No.717271326
I'm looking forward to the deluge of threads by people who never played the games saying that "the new play scene promotes trannyism and made Sky's story woke."
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:15:39 PM No.717271365
will the remake fix the god awful backtracking quest line thats impossible to do without a guide?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:16:06 PM No.717271409
>>717271301
No offense brother but if you forget things that quickly then perhaps a 14+ games long series is not ideal for you
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:16:09 PM No.717271415
Question. Should I play all the other games before Reverie?
Replies: >>717271658 >>717271731 >>717271737
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:18:56 PM No.717271658
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>>717271415
I'd be extremely convenient
Replies: >>717271764 >>717271784
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:19:52 PM No.717271731
>>717271415
At the very least you need to play all of Cold Steel before Reverie.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:19:57 PM No.717271737
>>717271415
>should I play like 20 other JRPGs before I can play 1 game?
are you mentally insane by any chance
Replies: >>717271784
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:20:24 PM No.717271764
>>717271658
haha my t press didn't register
>It'd*
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:20:26 PM No.717271768
>>717248340
You meet "her" in the first game. All her holes are supposed to be canonically used up by that point in time.
Replies: >>717275252
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:20:41 PM No.717271784
>>717271658
Hooh boy.. I'm in for a long one.

>>717271737
Yes.
Replies: >>717272530
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:20:56 PM No.717271796
>>717271250
It is.
But translators are known for disrespecting the source work all the time when it comes to vidya.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:21:38 PM No.717271859
>>717242813 (OP)
Falcom's unironically dying. Profits down 87% in 2025.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:23:09 PM No.717271984
>>717270321
>many people did actually
No one asked for this, loser.
Replies: >>717272204
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:24:03 PM No.717272053
>>717242813 (OP)
no one should ever care about remakes
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:24:33 PM No.717272101
>>717245314
>>717244323
/thread
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:25:45 PM No.717272192
>>717265126
Yeah its especially fucked up because the only characters I really ended up liking in Cold Steel were Rufus, Rean, and Altina. The rest of them just completely tapered off or were just so mired in the dogshit story writing. The curse was so hilariously bad and inept it was insane.

I could have forgiven Cold Steel if they gave us us at least ONE battle where Olivier and Mueller linked their Arcus and just had a lot of banter with each other, but you could TELL they couldnt give a single fuck about the character writing by not even producing the most obvious fanservice at all.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:25:52 PM No.717272204
>>717271984
You're clearly wrong seeing as it is releasing next month to boisterous applause
You don't know better than the Falcom marketing team, incel
Replies: >>717272670
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:28:22 PM No.717272394
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Replies: >>717272561 >>717272584
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:29:40 PM No.717272487
>>717270823
The doors were the only substance in the whole game. The rest of 3rd was just a miserable trudge through asset flip dungeons.
Replies: >>717272661
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:30:13 PM No.717272530
>>717271784
I can almost guarantee you that you won't survive the cold steel arc. CS1 is a dogshit harem anime in a japanese high school, SC2 is entirely filler, CS3 is the sloppiest JRPG I've ever played (apparently that's the highlight of the arc) and CS4 gets worse somehow.
I really regret spending so much time on this series, hours and days I'll never get back. The only entries I remember fondly are Sky 3 and Crossbell.
Replies: >>717272685 >>717273552
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:30:48 PM No.717272561
>>717272394
kewt panik
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:31:04 PM No.717272584
>>717272394
Sex
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:31:55 PM No.717272659
>>717263902
Trails has always been a poorly written franchise that's mediocre at best carried hard by an interesting concept. But each arc got worse than the previous one and combined with the absolute shit tier pacing it just wears people down.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:31:57 PM No.717272661
>>717272487
>only substance to the game is reading endless dialogue with almost no gameplay for hoooooours on end
GRIM. Might as well ""play"" a visual novel
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:31:58 PM No.717272663
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mfw the trannylators didnt localize out esteles catch phrase this time
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:32:01 PM No.717272670
>>717272204
Falcom's having their worst year ever and it's going to get worse when this piece of shit no one cares for launches.
Replies: >>717272763 >>717272902 >>717275081
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:32:15 PM No.717272685
>>717272530
>CS1 is a dogshit harem anime in a japanese high school
/v/ loves persona, did you forget this wasn't your usual echo chamber
Replies: >>717273006
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:32:27 PM No.717272703
>>717270957
1/2 is practically 2/2 so i win.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:33:20 PM No.717272763
>>717272670
And yet here you are still obsessing over them like the good bitch you are
And the best part? You WILL play Sky 1st ;)
Replies: >>717272938
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:35:14 PM No.717272902
>>717272670
You seem obsessed with this niche series anon
Replies: >>717272938 >>717274140
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:35:35 PM No.717272938
>>717272763
>>717272902
>And yet here you are still obsessing over them like the good bitch you are
Nope. Made 2 posts in a thread I saw on page 1.
>You WILL play Sky 1st ;)
Nope. Haven't played a Trails game since I finished Daybreak because it was legitimately one of the worst JRPGs I've ever played.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:35:40 PM No.717272947
>>717261390
Which game/unit is it?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:36:20 PM No.717273006
>>717272685
I'm simply warning the guy, he doesn't know what he's getting into.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:36:22 PM No.717273013
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:36:28 PM No.717273017
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SLAP
Replies: >>717273324 >>717273536 >>717274980 >>717276485
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:40:24 PM No.717273324
>>717273017
>proceeds to fall in love with him
Women
Replies: >>717274139
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:42:00 PM No.717273443
Am I the only one who finds the NPC dialogue in this series overrated? Itโ€™s frequently touted as one of the series best features because itโ€™s always changing but your party rarely ever talks back and converses like in the Lunar and Grandia games so why should I even care about what some faceless NPC says?
Replies: >>717273575
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:42:28 PM No.717273482
>>717242813 (OP)
>What happened?
Nobody cares
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:42:37 PM No.717273491
>>717242813 (OP)
Hope you guys enjoy, I have trouble getting into these games, not sure why.
Replies: >>717273584 >>717275027
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:43:08 PM No.717273536
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>>717273017
How CAN HE SLAP?? how can she slap?!! how can he slap MEE??
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:43:17 PM No.717273552
>>717272530
CS1 is the best game in the entire arc. People just gas up CS3 because of the ending.
Replies: >>717273631
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:43:42 PM No.717273575
>>717273443
Because it's fun? Why get into a text heavy series if you don't enjoy reading?
Crossbell has an entire romance plot line between two NPCs that's pretty fun to check up on from time to time, amongst many other little ones all over the place
Replies: >>717273956
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:43:50 PM No.717273584
>>717273491
Because they're bad, that's probably why.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:44:20 PM No.717273618
>>717262959
There's supposed to be rapid technological development and the matter of whether humanity can handle it, but they fucked it up immediately after Sky.
Now it's too late to stop.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:44:28 PM No.717273631
>>717273552
I agree, but the bar isn't very high here.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:49:03 PM No.717273956
>>717273575
>Because it's fun? Why get into a text heavy series if you don't enjoy reading?
It would be even better and more fun if your party members actually spoke back and bantered/commentated on what the NPCs are saying like how Lunar and Grandia does it.
Replies: >>717274248
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:51:00 PM No.717274115
>>717263902
The only reason, and this is what hardly anyone will tell you, is that new entries only feel worse because they keep telling the same story with the same tropes over and over again in each game, sometimes with the same character archetypes. It's like if A New Hope was followed by The Force Awakens which was then followed by a movie directly aping TFA. That's Trails in a nutshell.
Replies: >>717274306
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:51:21 PM No.717274139
>>717273324
It was a slap out of love.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:51:21 PM No.717274140
>>717272902
I'm really hoping we one day get the full story about this guy. There has to be some dramatic backstory that explains his behavior.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:51:23 PM No.717274149
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EVERYONE IS HERE!
Replies: >>717275236 >>717275346 >>717275440 >>717275597
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:51:30 PM No.717274160
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:52:20 PM No.717274227
>>717264004
Neither do chuds.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:52:31 PM No.717274248
>>717273956
Yeah but those games are way shorter and have less characters. Npcs are just some extra autism for those who care
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:53:24 PM No.717274306
>>717274115
Yeah as you play more of the series you eventually reach a point where you just feel like you've seen everything this series has to show you because Falcom never really do anything new with it. They've been using the exact same structure since Zero for almost every game and so many of the plot beats and characters are just rehashes of things they did earlier in the series and it only gets worse. We're now at a point in the series where there are rehashes of the rehashes. They're just so afraid to do anything new and break out of their comfort zone and every game just feels the same.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:53:57 PM No.717274340
>>717274306
Can you blame them with how sensitive the modern otaku is?
Replies: >>717274685
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:53:59 PM No.717274346
>>717265662
>popular at the time
*a few years ago
Falcom is always behind on whatever trends they're chasing. I fully expect a focus on Xiphatubers or something in Trails five or ten years from now.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:54:45 PM No.717274401
>>717242813 (OP)
Latest entries has the plot looking like itโ€™s moving towards a Star Ocean 3 esque โ€œit was just a simulation all alongโ€ meta twist. Probably safer to wait until the series finally finishes and see where they ultimately end up taking the overarching story before committing and fully investing.
Replies: >>717274547 >>717275120 >>717275193 >>717275432 >>717275480
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:55:32 PM No.717274458
>>717267127
HONEY CAN YOU GET ME A COPY OF THE LIBERAL NEWS
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:55:36 PM No.717274467
Just like with Xenoblade 3 selling less reality is people can't keep up with so many games. Even Capcom removed the number from their last re games.
They should try to make a new jrpg story, something like atelier where they make 3 games per story
Replies: >>717274631
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:56:37 PM No.717274547
>>717274401
>Sky 1st is a simulation
Haha.....new Aerith shit again
Replies: >>717275120
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:57:24 PM No.717274598
>>717248506
>Xeno
Xeno is much better and more interesting in its overarching plot and even worldbuilding than Trails though? Hell, Trails itself blatantly rips off a lot of Xenoโ€™s concepts.
Replies: >>717274650 >>717274713 >>717275764
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:57:48 PM No.717274631
>>717274467
that's the whole point of the series though and what is supposed to separate it from every other jrpg series
if you don't want to play a series like this then just dont and play the dozens of other jrpg series that do exactly that
the solution isn't to completely abandon the series' identity, the solution is to actually try with the story again instead of just coasting with it and maybe the fans would get interested again
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:58:01 PM No.717274650
>>717274598
Kek no, xeno is just tales of but without the skits souls.
Replies: >>717274730 >>717274795 >>717275861
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:58:37 PM No.717274685
>>717274340
japan's otaku are turning to chinese/korean gachas anyway. this just ensures nobody but those suffering the most extreme form of sunk cost will touch the next arc.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:59:05 PM No.717274713
>>717274598
Only good Xenoblade is 2 and because of the anime weeb coom fanservice, the rest are generic or boring
Replies: >>717274854
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:59:26 PM No.717274730
>>717274650
>Tales of
Which is also better than Trails overall, at least the Team Symphonia games.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:00:02 PM No.717274786
>>717274306
also doesn't help that the modern ys games and tokyo xanadu (and probably tx2) are structured the exact same way as trails are (minus the sequelbait) so every game they release feels like a variation of the same game
Replies: >>717275013
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:00:08 PM No.717274795
>>717274650
xeno is pretty transparently takahashi telling the same story about an insecure man(him) who falls in love with and finds security in a mommylike figure and protects her in return
it's its own thing but it's more or less the same thing every time
Replies: >>717274936
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:00:32 PM No.717274827
>>717269979
>edgy fanfiction and tonally doesn't fit the rest of the series
That's my favorite part about 3rdfags.
>bro like dude like the new games are so neutered, Trails used to be so hecking based and edgekino!
>oh yeah, like when
>bro like in 3rd it was like-
>ok but what other games
>well in 3rd they-
>ok so it was only ever edgy for literally one game? then that means that one game is the outlier and that makes it the least trails game out of all the trails games
>yeah well............STFU REANFAG!!!!!
>k bye
Every time.
Replies: >>717275472
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:00:41 PM No.717274838
at this point i just hope falcoms first pc port in decades wont make my pc explode.

why did it have to be this, of all games, where they decide to yet again fuck over their middle men
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:00:52 PM No.717274854
>>717274713
>Zoom-Zoom hasnโ€™t played Xenogears or Saga
Your opinion is meaningless
Replies: >>717274992
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:01:38 PM No.717274913
20250804_190122
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md5: 275d8a9edc59a87294b27a3bbb6304d7๐Ÿ”
Haha...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:01:54 PM No.717274936
>>717274795
xeno has been remaking xenogears for 30 years lmao
takahashi also worked at falcom so maybe thats where he learned it haha...
Replies: >>717275042
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:02:38 PM No.717274980
>>717273017
Literally everything about their relationship is exactly what women want.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:02:42 PM No.717274992
>>717274854
I was talking about the Xenoblade ones retard.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:02:57 PM No.717275013
>>717274786
Can't be helped. Anything they make will feel like Trails now that the staff consists of Trails fanatics.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:03:07 PM No.717275027
>>717273491
I bounced off them twice and nearly a third time before they hooked me. I think what I missed initially was the humor that runs through a lot of the scenes. When something absurd is happening on screen, there's usually a character winking at the camera (sometimes literally). The critics seem to take this series more seriously that it takes itself.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:03:23 PM No.717275042
>>717274936
trails' leading couples after sky tend to have the same emotionally inert yet omnipresent quality to them so you could be onto something
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:03:48 PM No.717275081
>>717272670
Falcom war chest mogs
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:04:19 PM No.717275120
>>717274401
>>717274547
How pissed will the Trails superfans cult be if this does actually end up being the case? Imagine wasting all those thousands of hours on 20 something games only for it to be all for nothing in the endโ€ฆ At least Star Ocean 3 had only two previous entries before it that werenโ€™t THAT interconnected, plus Star Ocean has always been more about the gameplay than the story anyways.
Replies: >>717275934
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:05:17 PM No.717275193
>>717274401
>Latest entries has the plot looking like itโ€™s moving towards a Star Ocean 3 esque โ€œit was just a simulation all alongโ€ meta twist.
why do you keep trying to force this every thread that is literally not what happens in kai
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:05:50 PM No.717275235
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Replies: >>717275516 >>717276194
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:05:51 PM No.717275236
>>717274149
>Rean is all the way in the back
>Police cuck from Crossbell is leading the charge
Weird how they put the weakestC in the front kek
Replies: >>717275389
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:06:03 PM No.717275252
>>717271768
You do NOT meet her in the first game. Go actually play the game instead of jerking off.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:07:05 PM No.717275330
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:07:13 PM No.717275346
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>>717274149
oh shit it's the guy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:07:48 PM No.717275389
>>717275236
they would never do that now
rean will probably be leading the charge in the next game
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:07:52 PM No.717275396
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can't wait to see those big crossbells again with the new style
Replies: >>717275609
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:08:13 PM No.717275432
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>>717274401
>yfw Falcon goes full schizo and says that Trails and Ys actually do happen in the same universe, but just on different continents that are seperated by magic barrier and Ouroboros is trying to destroy the barrier
Replies: >>717275606 >>717275639
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:08:20 PM No.717275440
>>717274149
geezus fuck, they all have GARBAGE sameface syndrome. Character designs thrown out the window.
It's like some low budget shit from the early 2007-2009 ps3 days lol
Replies: >>717275492
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:08:44 PM No.717275472
>>717269979
>>717274827
So how likely is it that Renneโ€™s Star 13th Door and backstory gets retconned and censored in a 3rd remake in order to appeal to โ€œmodern audiencesโ€ and Collective Shout?
Replies: >>717275512 >>717275908
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:08:48 PM No.717275480
>>717274401
There's no need for "investment". The overwhelming majority of the content in these games is devoted to developing the characters and localized setting. If it stops interesting you, then you can just stop playing.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:09:00 PM No.717275492
>>717275440
quantity > quality is the mission statement of trails lmao
Replies: >>717275696
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:09:16 PM No.717275512
>>717275472
Dude do you realize that they already censored and retconned her backstory in Zero right?
Replies: >>717275735
aceman !!oXu3OLVH0EG
8/4/2025, 7:09:19 PM No.717275516
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>>717275235
I'm glad they kept Tita being cute
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:09:21 PM No.717275518
>>717242813 (OP)
Looks soulless, Falcom has been lazy in recent years.
Replies: >>717275676
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:10:33 PM No.717275597
>>717274149
who is the mystery nigga that looks like Lelouch?
Replies: >>717275728
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:10:40 PM No.717275606
>>717275432
There's already implied multiverse nonsense. Shove Ys into an alternate world or timeline and you're good to go.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:10:40 PM No.717275609
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>>717275396
Goddayum those are some big ol' crossbells!!
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:11:05 PM No.717275639
1606818054833
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>>717275432
Shut up shut up shut up
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:11:23 PM No.717275676
>>717275518
YS8 was the last time Falcom made a coherent looking game. TitS Redoodledo at least looks like they are trying somewhat, albeit failing with the environments again
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:11:43 PM No.717275696
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1732483816588659
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>>717275492
I....sadly agree with this
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:12:07 PM No.717275728
>>717275597
Bird
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:12:14 PM No.717275735
>>717275512
>censored and retconned her story in Zero
Wasnโ€™t it more so just revealed to be a misunderstanding and the guy her parents left her with was a backstabbing douche that sold her off and her parents had always been searching for her and didnโ€™t know?

As far as I remember they still kept her being a child trafficking victim who was in Zemuriaโ€™s version of Epstein Island.
Replies: >>717275852 >>717275967 >>717276625 >>717277417
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:12:30 PM No.717275764
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>>717274598
Your out of luck in here, the Xeno series makes /v/ SEETHE, especially Trailsfags. Which is funny because Falcom's entire legacy is copying Takahashi's work.
Replies: >>717275919 >>717275950 >>717276053 >>717276152 >>717276267 >>717276403
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:13:22 PM No.717275848
>>717242813 (OP)
This game is basically eternally tainted in the west for anyone not already invested on it because of the series-wide shitty localization.
Replies: >>717275943 >>717276035
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:13:24 PM No.717275852
>>717275735
>Epstein Island
Ironic because there is an Epstein in the series and the guy is the reason they have Orbal tech
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:13:31 PM No.717275861
>>717274650
Tales games barely have worlds or stories
Replies: >>717276004
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:13:59 PM No.717275908
>>717275472
Bro they already soft retconned it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:04 PM No.717275919
>>717275764
sounds like you're the one seething because you explicitly entered a trails thread just to cry about xeno lmao
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:18 PM No.717275934
>>717275120
I have a secret to tell you: all fiction isn't real. When fiction uses a "story within a story" plot device, that doesn't make it any more or less real. You can still criticize the use of this plot device, but it doesn't invalidate the inner story.
(I'm speaking generally here. There are some cases where the crossover between the story layers is the point of the work as a whole, and it those cases it makes no sense to consider the layers independently)
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:24 PM No.717275943
>>717275848
varishangout doesn't represent the west
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:26 PM No.717275950
>>717275764
I like both series
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:28 PM No.717275954
the-legend-of-xanadu-1080
the-legend-of-xanadu-1080
md5: d3a79c0d15a3e1a4724bb16d90cdeed9๐Ÿ”
TitS is a great JRPG series. The rest of the games are doodoo. Falcom is a doodoo company nowadays. Just play Xanadu.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:39 PM No.717275967
>>717275735
Door implied the parents sold her, Zero made them look innocent and clueless and solved everything too fast
Replies: >>717276170
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:14:58 PM No.717276004
>>717275861
>Tales games barely have worlds or stories
Both Symphonia and Abyss mog every Trails game when it comes to story.
Replies: >>717276232
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:15:05 PM No.717276010
>>717242813 (OP)
>What happened?
People are kind of done with lolsorandom localizations.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:15:25 PM No.717276035
>>717275848
Just in your bubble, chud
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:15:44 PM No.717276053
>>717275764
>Says this while constantly entering trails threads and seething
Nigga we don't care about your games, why are you always invading other threads? And then you cry about muh ff faggots
Replies: >>717276374
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:16:00 PM No.717276087
Wait so who was a child sex slave?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:16:50 PM No.717276152
>>717275764
>PLEASE HATE US TALK ABOUT OUR GAMES
Haha....looks like someone feels too lonely
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:17:08 PM No.717276170
>>717275967
>Door implied the parents sold her, Zero made them look innocent and clueless and solved everything too fast
Yeah exactly, thatโ€™s not censoring though since they didnโ€™t reverse Renne being child rape victim.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:17:27 PM No.717276194
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>>717275235
Need to see her in a bunny suit like Lapis
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:17:34 PM No.717276203
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>>717264829
Perfectly summed up the series.
It's NEVER been about the plot, but the characters.
Cold Steel flooded the cast with like 50 characters so the only character who could have any sort of screentime and development was Rean. Too bad his entire concept is the most boring self-insert shit ever.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:17:59 PM No.717276232
>>717276004
Literally only Abyss remotely mogs anything from Trails or Xeno. Symphonia's story is one of the most lifeless and horribly told stories in a JRPG that isn't shovelware.
Replies: >>717276347
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:18:02 PM No.717276234
Literally never heard of that game.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:18:14 PM No.717276245
>>717275852
Why wouldn't Osborne release the Epstein files?
Replies: >>717276489 >>717277417
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:18:28 PM No.717276267
>>717275764
People only care about Pyra and blonde Pyra cooming fanarts dude, besides going to other threads to cry makes you look desperate.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:18:53 PM No.717276295
>>717275852
Falcom has the opportunity to do something very funny...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:19:29 PM No.717276347
>>717276232
>Symphoniaโ€™s story is one of the most lifeless and horribly told stories in a JRPG that isn't shovelware.
It was also the first actual woke JRPG before Kuro came along.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:00 PM No.717276374
>>717276053
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/NpAYs1fqMEBRC8dnyD4yFQ/
I wonder if xenofags will cry again when the next tales of is announced
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:14 PM No.717276395
should i get it on ps5 or steam? i was a physical only-fag for a long time but since having 3 ps5 controllers drift im considering not owning anything anymore and being happy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:14 PM No.717276403
>>717275764
I dunno why this anon is getting shit when Xeno was mentioned twice before his post
Replies: >>717276439 >>717276503
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:33 PM No.717276424
>>717264829
I completely disagree with this. I think Sky has the worst written main cast. The issue is Cold Steel is so long that their isn't enough shit to go along with the increase in game length so they appear worse than they actually are. Sky by FAR has the most shallow characters.
Replies: >>717279132
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:45 PM No.717276439
>>717276403
falseflagging is fucking lame and gay, that's why
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:20:52 PM No.717276446
>DUDE MY SERIES IS BETTER THAN YOUR SERIES OK!!!!
>HAHAHA EVERYTHING SUCK I HATE EVERYTHING LOOK AT ME EVERYTHING SUCK HAHAHAHA IM SO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
JRPG threads have to be the most schizo type of thread in all of /v/
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:21:34 PM No.717276485
>>717273017
Typical Falcom showing too much of the game. This was a part that made me actually say "Oh shit" out loud when it happened.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:21:35 PM No.717276489
>>717276245
All lies. Noble slander.
Replies: >>717277417
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:21:48 PM No.717276503
>>717276403
Because your fandom always raid other threads
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:22:06 PM No.717276523
>>717276446
This is literally every JRPG thread on /v/ unless it's ultra obscure and only 4 people played it.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:22:51 PM No.717276574
>>717276446
Almost is if a certain discord group only wants pokemon, FE and Xenoblade threads here
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:23:28 PM No.717276625
>>717275735
>Zemuriaโ€™s version of Epstein Island.
kek, gave me a lil chuckle. Epstein cant stop winning, not even in "death", or even in fiction
Replies: >>717277417
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:23:57 PM No.717276657
>>717276446
jrpg fans either become gacha addicts or they argue online all day long to cope with the decline of the genre
you get used to it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:24:09 PM No.717276671
>>717276446
some franchises for some reason just have people who make it their lifes mission to ruin any thread about them it's such weird mentally ill behaviour
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:24:52 PM No.717276720
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Replies: >>717276786 >>717277019
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:25:06 PM No.717276742
/vros im debating if i should waste my life playing Cold steel 2 (and maybe the rest of the series) , or just drop this shit entirely and focus on finishing Disgaea 6 then 7 soon after.
Im leaning on Disgaea since most people say the CS games keep getting worse
Replies: >>717276979
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:25:40 PM No.717276786
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>>717276720
the real disciple
Replies: >>717277563
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:26:01 PM No.717276813
>>717276446
Jrpgfags are like when women try to change a man
>Less cutscenes more gameplay!
Then you have SaGa, dq3 and ff12 which are gameplay and barely a story and nobody gives a fuck. Jrpgfags don't want to accept jrpgs are just visual novels with easy gameplay to see cool characters do cool shit, then read, read and read
Replies: >>717276908
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:27:09 PM No.717276908
>>717276813
>ff12
>game that literally plays itself
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:27:15 PM No.717276919
>>717276446
JRPGs are long as fuck and people don't have the time to play them all, ergo everything they haven't played is dogshit
trailsfags are kinda different because they realize that majority of the series they played is pure slop
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:27:20 PM No.717276927
>>717276446
emotionally-driven series tend to attract emotionally unstable people. add on to that mental health is worse across the board than it's ever been
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:28:10 PM No.717276979
>>717276742
You've already seen everything the series has to see. Playing it further is just engaging in sunk cost. Trust me, there's no light at the end of the tunnel. Get out while you still can.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:28:35 PM No.717277019
>>717276720
>female pedophile
very inclusive Falcom
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:29:05 PM No.717277059
>>717276446
Like someone said jrpgfags only appear in FF threads to beg for turn based but outside FF threads they hate their own games even more than YOSHITp hates turn based games KEK
Replies: >>717277149
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:30:14 PM No.717277149
>>717277059
Even romancing saga 2 remake which had fanservice a good gameplay had some autistic schizo spending hours doomposting
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:30:31 PM No.717277170
>>717276446
I'm playing Grandia right now and having a lot of fun and then I'm going to play SMTVV and after that I picked up Octopath Traveller 1 and 2 and I'll play those. I love JRPGs.
Replies: >>717277340
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:31:37 PM No.717277249
>>717276446
Millennials are too old for these games so they rather complain and act like hysterical women, my guess too much so i and emptiness for being childless.
Zoomers have no patient or are just playing gacha
Replies: >>717277414
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8/4/2025, 7:32:37 PM No.717277340
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>>717277170
Based.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:33:33 PM No.717277406
>THIS SERIES WAS NEVER GOOD IF YOU LIKE IT YOU'RE RETARDED - JRPG threads
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:33:36 PM No.717277414
>>717277249
>Zoomers have no patient or are just playing gacha
It's gacha. The largest gachas right now share many of the same writing quirks and flaws as Trails but are massively popular.
Replies: >>717277526
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:33:38 PM No.717277417
>>717276625
>>717276245
>>717276489
>>717275735
>>717275852
>Make their world have a secret undercover pedo ring used by the elite
>Have a guy literally named Epstein
What did Falcom mean by this? Did they unironically predict PizzaGate and were trying to warn the world all along? How much you wanna bet theyโ€™re gonna reveal their own Professor Epstein as being behind the pedo ring all along?
Replies: >>717277551 >>717277585 >>717278468
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:33:41 PM No.717277423
I do care. this is my most anticipated game aside from stranger than heaven
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:34:12 PM No.717277461
>>717276446
>FF thread
DQ/ATELIER/TALES/TRAILS/Persona/*insertgame nobody talks about it here*
ARE BETTER, FFfags are CULTISTS FUCK SESHILLS
>DQ thread
FF/ATELIER/TALES/TRAILS/Persona/*insertgame nobody talks about it here* , DQfags are CULTISTS FUCK SESHILLS
>Atelier thread
FF/DQ/TALES/TRAILS/Persona/*insertgame nobody talks about it here*
ARE BETTER, Atelierfags are CULTISTS FUCK GUSTSHILLS
>Tales of thread
DQ/ATELIER/FF/TRAILS/Persona/*insertgame nobody talks about it here*
ARE BETTER, talesfags are CULTISTS FUCK BAMCOSHILLS
>Trails thread
DQ/ATELIER/TALES/FF/Persona/*insertgame nobody talks about it here*
ARE BETTER, Trailsfags are CULTISTS FUCK FALCOMSHILLS
>Persona thread
DQ/ATELIER/TALES/TRAILS/FF/*insertgame nobody talks about it here*
ARE BETTER, Personafags are CULTISTS FUCK ATLUST SHILLS
>Game nobody talks about gets a remake
ACTUALLY THIS GAME WAS NEVER GOOD
Replies: >>717277580 >>717277650 >>717277690 >>717278025 >>717278916
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:35:01 PM No.717277510
It's really amazing what a difference a few years makes. 7-8 years ago this series was beloved on /v/ and you could barely say a bad word about it. Nowadays it's apparently the worst series ever made in history and it was never good.
Replies: >>717277664 >>717277720 >>717277760 >>717277897 >>717282334 >>717282897
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:35:12 PM No.717277526
>>717277414
They just tell each other in gacha threads that gachas are the only games left with cute girls and aren't woke and plug their ears and eyes if someone posts the contrary
Replies: >>717277593
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:35:25 PM No.717277547
>>717243690
>This remake will be smarter than FF7's if they don't add TIME JANNIE JAEGARS in to it.
smarter how? its the same game but with soulless "3d anime" gacha graphics

im just gonna play the original trilogy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:35:26 PM No.717277551
>>717277417
that would be too interesting of a plot point for Falcom, we're not allowed to have that
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:35:38 PM No.717277563
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>>717276786
best snake
shame we never got that sick combat suit design from the crossbell artbook
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:36:00 PM No.717277580
>>717277461
this is accurate and I wish it wasn't. I enjoy most of these series, the series-warring faggotry is insufferable
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:36:03 PM No.717277585
>>717277417
Falcom had to be in on the Epstein case all along, itโ€™s just too much of a coincidence and too on the nose otherwiseโ€ฆ
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:36:07 PM No.717277593
>>717277526
Most gachafags just play it because they like the MTX
Replies: >>717277726
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:37:01 PM No.717277650
>>717277461
>Game gets a youtube video
>EVERYONE THAT EVER LIKED THIS GAME WAS A POSER, ZOOMER BOOMER AGRREHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:37:15 PM No.717277664
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md5: 1cf997b501d2ae7147825321b4f97acf๐Ÿ”
>>717277510
Haha, that's Rean and his games for you!
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:37:35 PM No.717277690
>>717277461
Those recommending grandia and Xanadu would 100% shit on those id they got a new remake/game and would shill other games
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:38:02 PM No.717277720
>>717277510
well yeah those last 7 years have been almost exclusively filled with underwhelming games
the series was also mostly unlocalized back then so people had a real "grass is greener" view of the series
now that the entire thing is playable in english people are a lot more critical of it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:38:08 PM No.717277726
>>717277593
it's not "just" one factor, gachas are a horrendously evil combination of factors all targeting vulnerable parts of the human psyche to maximize possible engagement
they're victims of manipulation just as much as they are victims of bad taste
Replies: >>717279112
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:38:39 PM No.717277760
>>717277510
That's nu/v/ though, even Darksiders had some schizo screeching because the 13 Darksiderfags were happy with the new game announcement.
The pattern is new game announced = this game was never good
Who knows who want you miserable all the time
Replies: >>717277847
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:40:04 PM No.717277847
>>717277760
>Who knows who want you miserable all the time
social media engagement is literally a science and science has determined that anger leads to the most profit so that's what paid agents and bots are going to default to
Replies: >>717277971
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:40:30 PM No.717277880
I started with Rean's games and thought they were ok and looked forward to going back and playing the old games cause I thought CS would be the weakest entry but after playing through the first games of Sky, Crossbell and Kuro I can confirm that the Cold Steel games are literally the only ones worth playing. Play CS1-4 and maybe Hajimari and then drop the series.
Replies: >>717277923 >>717277954 >>717278018
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:40:51 PM No.717277897
>>717277510
Pure millennial depression, negativity gives them adrenaline all the time. See the bikinischizo forever crying about bikinis but he basically ignores Edens zero game.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:41:11 PM No.717277923
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>>717277880
t.
Replies: >>717277959
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:41:44 PM No.717277954
>>717277880
We can't all be shiteaters like you.
Replies: >>717278137 >>717278265
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:41:47 PM No.717277959
>>717277923
Don't dox me anon
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:41:58 PM No.717277971
>>717277847
Eh I just saw it a very old woman behaviour, like I said, probably too much so.i. No shit this board is dying, every fucking thread has some faggot larping as the obnoxious "le real fan"
Replies: >>717278038 >>717278137
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:42:52 PM No.717278018
>>717277880
Might as well not play it at all if you think cold steel is the peak kek.
Replies: >>717278137
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:42:57 PM No.717278025
>>717277461
>FF Thread
nuFF is actually bad though, and being outperformed significantly by Square's derivative C-budget projects like octopath

>DQ Thread
DQ is dead.

>Atelier thread
Atelier is now Ryzaslop and the fanbase that came with it.

>Tales of thread
Tales has always been bad

>Trails thread
Haha...

>Persona thread
Pershitna 5 was the biggest disappointment in video games since Diablo 3 and is single handedly responsible for the current state of the jarpig "fanbase" despite 3/4s of its fans being secondaries.

>Game nobody talks about gets a remake
name one
Replies: >>717278078 >>717278086 >>717278175 >>717278556 >>717279280
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:43:04 PM No.717278038
>>717277971
>I'M THE REAL FAN AND YOU'RE ALL LOSERS
>Proceeds to shit and piss all over the thread for 500 posts
I fucking hate this, the hack should went longer
Replies: >>717278152
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:43:38 PM No.717278078
>>717278025
Retard
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:43:45 PM No.717278086
>>717278025
Kys smtvtroon
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:44:29 PM No.717278137
>>717277971
Dunk culture is a real thing, see >>717277954 and >>717278018

The most vocal posters are more interested in finding opportunities to put others down than talking about their own interests, for reasons only known to them and their estranged family
Replies: >>717278562
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:44:46 PM No.717278152
>>717278038
>Niche game he used to defend becomes popular year later
>Le real fan abandons the game and starts shilling some obscure game he had to find in Wikipedia
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:45:09 PM No.717278175
Carlos
Carlos
md5: d562303f49fb1028100fa20f23723598๐Ÿ”
>>717278025
>Atelier is now Ryzaslop and the fanbase that came with it.
More like came to it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:45:38 PM No.717278208
>Trails thread
>5 posts of people actually trying to talk about the game, 300 posts about how its the worst thing ever made by humanity, 100 talking about jrpg fandom culture in general
Every time.
Replies: >>717278271 >>717278362 >>717278423 >>717278549 >>717278647
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:46:04 PM No.717278241
Trails is the greatest JRPG series of all time, the worst Trails game is still better than any other JRPG made in history. This is a fact and you are stupid if you believe otherwise.
Replies: >>717278265
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:46:28 PM No.717278265
>>717278241
>>717277954
samefag
Replies: >>717278392 >>717278418
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:46:40 PM No.717278271
>>717278208
Why would any sane individual want to waste his time on this series?
Replies: >>717278423
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:46:52 PM No.717278281
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md5: 190dc30e25b0b5349b75dcf8ffc13f0a๐Ÿ”
Kai 2 is gonna have Lloyd and Rixia get married.

Source: Kondo told me in a dream
Replies: >>717278574
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:48:01 PM No.717278362
>>717278208
Trails is so shit talking about JRPGs is the only good thing.
Replies: >>717278725
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:48:27 PM No.717278392
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>>717278265
You are making yourself look stupid, it was literally my first post in this thread.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:48:51 PM No.717278418
>>717278265
You fucking retard
Replies: >>717278558
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:48:58 PM No.717278423
>>717278271
Its one of the most rewarding series for NEETs, though.
I strongly recommend the series to any homebodies, even with the dip in quality starting with Sen.

>>717278208
Anyone who has played any of the games has already discussed them to death.
Replies: >>717278864
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:49:33 PM No.717278468
>>717277417
>Make their world have a secret undercover pedo ring used by the elite
Don't forget devil worshiping too
Really thought that was a nice part about Zero, all the dark conspiracy stuff with the DG cult and finding out how there's all this evil in the world that's backed by powers high up. Having a spooky theme also helped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvRwDH53Qj8
Too bad all the future games made them come across as jobbers and most villains going forward felt more like your friends in comparison rather than actual antagonists
Replies: >>717278941
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:49:51 PM No.717278480
Trails was never good.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:50:37 PM No.717278549
>>717278208
I come here on pure sunk cost but I honestly have never found the motivation to play any more of the games after Hajimari.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:50:44 PM No.717278556
>>717278025
>Tales has always been bad
Symphonia and Abyss are better than any Trails game
Replies: >>717279005
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:50:49 PM No.717278558
>>717278418
>no one has ever swapped between opinions just to start arguments before
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:50:52 PM No.717278562
>>717278137
People should accept 7/10 games have the right to exist.
They can always make threads about the games they like
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:50:56 PM No.717278574
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>>717278281
That's odd. Kondo told me in a dream that it would be Tio
Replies: >>717278702
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:51:54 PM No.717278647
>>717278208
Literally every jrpg thread lmao
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:52:39 PM No.717278702
>>717278574
Well he is a pathological liar, so
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:52:46 PM No.717278715
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the-long-journey-of-renne-v0-mmb7zry7ezba1
md5: 1104e791f96447e845c9bc0df1e3cabb๐Ÿ”
Renne is the greatest JRPG character of all time.
Went from being a sex slave who got gangbanged every day at like 8 years old to being a hot ass 17 year old in Daybreak
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:52:55 PM No.717278725
>>717278362
More like doomposters ruin everything, the good threads we had always had some schizo crying for hours
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:52:57 PM No.717278728
Who has done more damage to their JRPG IP, Baba with Tales or Kondo with Trails?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:53:45 PM No.717278794
>>717242813 (OP)
Im buying it nothing else to say about that really
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:54:08 PM No.717278837
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md5: 930fcb22e40898a496df25e1c43d130d๐Ÿ”
Best npc
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:54:36 PM No.717278864
>>717278423
Even if you're a neet, there are better video games to waste the day away on. It just doesn't make sense, it's the same shit all over again with every game. Most characters are paper thin, plot moves at a glacial pace if at all, it doesn't take much to break the combat and cutscenes are god awful.
You're better off playing some gacha shit.
Replies: >>717278916 >>717278924 >>717279005 >>717279387 >>717279449
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:55:09 PM No.717278916
>>717278864
>>717277461
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:55:18 PM No.717278924
>>717278864
>You're better off playing some gacha shit.
and there it is
every time with you guys
Replies: >>717278990
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:55:28 PM No.717278941
>>717278468
yeah i really dont like how the villains are all best friends with you nowadays
it really keeps me invested in the story when you go from me stopping you from trying to end the worls to an hour later we're having friendly coffee chats and swim dates with eachother
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:56:09 PM No.717278990
>>717278924
But am I wrong though?
Replies: >>717279112
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:56:25 PM No.717279005
>>717278556
Worse than FC/3rd/Zero/Ao/Kuro1.
On par with CSI+III/SC/Hajimari
The median Tales entry is CSII+IV tier and most are worse than anything from Kiseki.

>>717278864
Go back to your mihoyoslop. I'd rather talk to a dozen talesfags or pershiteaters than you.
Replies: >>717279098
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:57:41 PM No.717279098
>>717279005
Delusion or bait. Fucking Dawn of the New World has better writing than the best written Kiseki game.
Replies: >>717279212 >>717279563
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:57:49 PM No.717279112
>>717278990
yes. patently so >>717277726
and you know what else, gachas RELY on popularity in order to even exist, without people liking them and actively playing them, they just shut down and disappear
with that in mind do you actually think gachas are better made games or is this your way of trying to save the one you're ensnared by. I wonder
Replies: >>717279472
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:58:09 PM No.717279132
>>717276424
If you only took the first sky game into account I'd agree. Schera had nothing going for her, tita is boring as sin and sucks, agate needed time in the oven, Kloe is a boring uggu uggu moeblob and Zin doesn't really do anything, but 3rd especially actually made most or them enticing and likable characters

I'd say Zero had the strongest main cast, but the problem was they forgot what they wanted to do with the characters by Ao leaving the slightly generic and hollow fc cast more desirable to me by the end
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:58:12 PM No.717279136
>xenotranny trying tales of vs trails again
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:59:09 PM No.717279212
>>717279098
Ok let's not get too carried away anon
Replies: >>717279338
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:00:04 PM No.717279280
>>717278025
>>Tales of thread
>Tales has always been bad
How daaaare you you faggit?? Tales of Phantasia is absolute soul & KINO, and Symphonia was also full of soul and kino as well.
I'd agree the rest are mostly slop
Replies: >>717279563
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:00:20 PM No.717279313
>Gachafag has shit taste
Lmao
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:00:32 PM No.717279323
>>717251480
>Entire OST replaced
And I won't be playing this, thank you for notifying me of this sacrilege.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:00:43 PM No.717279338
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>>717279212
You will accept my extreme hyperbole.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:01:10 PM No.717279370
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Shoujo Estelle
Replies: >>717279557
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:01:27 PM No.717279387
>>717278864
Gachas are the same shit but they try to turn you into a gambling addict. Good for you if you have the self-control, but you shouldn't recommend them to anyone.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:01:41 PM No.717279404
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Who is the best waifu in the series? For me it's Agnes.
Replies: >>717279597
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:01:52 PM No.717279419
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before this thread dies coz it's moving too fast... is it true the Crossbell duology is the peak of the series??
almost no one seems to criticize those. Thoughts?
Replies: >>717279526 >>717279551 >>717279762 >>717280138 >>717280187 >>717281008 >>717282979
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:02:12 PM No.717279449
>>717278864
You are just too old and depressed
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:02:28 PM No.717279472
>>717279112
>without people liking them and actively playing them, they just shut down and disappear
Shit games without an audience kill their studios, what's the difference. At least there's an incentive here to keep your attention by releasing good content. Meanwhile Falcom is simply coasting by.
I don't even play gachashit anymore, I'm just stating that you'd objectively have a better time playing anything else.
Replies: >>717279598 >>717279631
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:03:01 PM No.717279526
>>717279419
Kai no kiseki is the peak of the series imo and it's 13 games in.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:03:25 PM No.717279551
>>717279419
Zero is overrated shit
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:03:30 PM No.717279557
>>717279370
OH NONONONONO ELIEKEKS DON'T LOOK!
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:03:32 PM No.717279563
>>717279098
Writing not better than 3rd. Roughy equal to FC or Ao.
Overall package falls between the Kiseki games I listed above.

>>717279280
Was somewhat taking the piss with that comment. There are a few games in the series worth playing.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:04:00 PM No.717279597
>>717279404
Altina
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:04:00 PM No.717279598
>>717279472
And Falcom isn't dead because they have an audience, you can argue about the quality of their games(which you're clearly very dedicated to) but objectively speaking they do not abuse and entrap their customers the way gachas do
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:04:24 PM No.717279625
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>>717242813 (OP)
Should iplay the original
Replies: >>717279786 >>717279878 >>717280906
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:04:26 PM No.717279631
>>717279472
>Play this instead!
Holy kek there is always some faggot like you in every thread.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:06:01 PM No.717279762
>>717279419
Yes but the signs of the Cold Steel infection were already starting to show there.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:06:18 PM No.717279786
>>717279625
Wait and see if Nu-FC is a time-janny sequel to Kiseki 13. If it is, go play the original. If it is bad, go play the original.
If it is good, play it. You'll want to immediately play SC so waiting for nu-SC isn't an option.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:07:35 PM No.717279878
>>717279625
You should because this remake is pointless with it being only FC and SC remake not even being on the horizon.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:09:50 PM No.717280038
>>717251480
Don't forget that there is bound to be some gay twist about the timeline reset in Kai no Kiseki, it's going to be time jannys 2.0 on crack
They probably aren't even the same characters as the original Sky
Replies: >>717280162
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:11:10 PM No.717280138
>>717279419
No, Zero is pretty solid stand alone, but the writing is debatably the worst it has been. They wanted to get you to like the world and the characters by saying everything was "better" or "more evil" or "more fucked up" than sky, instead of actually showing these better evil or more fucked up things. Arios is a complete clown and waste of a character, Tio's backstory being compared to Renne's was laughable and uninteresting, because you dont even get to see it from her perspective, and Jochiam being worse than Weissman, while probably true, doesnt get time to really shine in that regard. Deiter is a diet Richard villain wise

Ao was even worse. Though the trade conference is arguably the best chapter in the whole franchise, the rest of the game is not only trying to undo a lot of the plot threads Zero set up, or at the very least sweep them under the rug, but the game also insists on having twists for the sake of twists. Also the gameplay was the worst it has been in the franchise, which is an accomplishment considering sky's was nothing to write home about
Replies: >>717280639
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:11:24 PM No.717280162
>>717280038
>They probably aren't even the same characters as the original Sky
Well if the only version of Sky you played is XSEEDโ€™s fanfiction they definitely wonโ€™t be.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:11:45 PM No.717280187
>>717279419
Zero is comfy but drops the ball with the final chapter as it needs to generate tension for a climax where if the game wasn't sold in two parts wouldn't need one. Combat is a bit too easy as Randy and Tio's crafts are too strong.

Ao is an incredible game for roughly 80% of its runtime (basically only the first chapter and final dungeon are lackluster) and is the last time combat ever requires any thought whatsoever for optional combat objectives like holding off sigmund or arianrhod on the highest difficulty. Introduces the master quartz system which the series has not strayed from yet.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:13:02 PM No.717280282
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Wait there was a timeline reset somewhere
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:13:12 PM No.717280296
I'm not gullible enough to get excited for a modern Falcom game anymore
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:16:24 PM No.717280519
>>717280282
The third stage of the Orpheus Plan ( Kuro no [Chrono] Kiseki) revolves around the Time septerrion and a macguffin created from its power(?) by Jeffrey Epstein.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:16:49 PM No.717280543
I played every game up to CS3, tried going through it 3 times and I just couldn't do it. It's fucking horrible.
I don't know how you guys do it.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:18:06 PM No.717280639
>>717280138
>>717280187
thanks for your inputs /vros, seems like it's worth a playthrough i suppose. I'll give the crossbell duology a try someday after i maaaybe finish CS2 or get to the end of it.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:19:31 PM No.717280753
>>717280543
CS3 is better than CS2. If you can make it through the godawful Crossbell chapter it only gets better from there.
CS4 is far worse than either. At least Randy is around to break up the hell that is 40 hours of Juna as MC.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:20:34 PM No.717280824
Are they really going to pull another ff7r/higurashi gou? I think even steins gate remake will use the same twist
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:21:26 PM No.717280886
do people just deal with the really bad localizations in the second half of the trails games? I keep seeing them used as examples of the worst localizations ever in other threads

t. only played TitS
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:21:45 PM No.717280906
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>>717279625
IF you do play the original make SURE you get it on PC and get that full voiceover patch to make the game fu-
wait, i have a better suggestion : NEVER start the series in the first place! wew, close one.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:23:13 PM No.717281008
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>>717279419
Crossbell is my favorite partly because I like the main cast the most.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:24:20 PM No.717281096
>>717280753
I played CS2 on tunnel vision mode, I skipped everything but the main story. I can bruteforce my way through 1 game but 2 in a row? That's not really the point of these games, if it's just going to be constant slop all the way through I'd rather just cut my losses.
>If you can make it through the godawful Crossbell chapter
pretty sure that's exactly where I dropped it on my last attempt
I swear if I hear Sword of the Biting Gale again I'll blow my brains out.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:24:26 PM No.717281109
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Fie or Feri tummy?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:25:04 PM No.717281160
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>my arianrhod figure finally arrived today
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:26:33 PM No.717281281
>>717281008
>only 4 generic looking characters
hmmm... i dunno how to feel about this. I hope that the characters are VERY very fleshed out to compensate for the lack of quantity.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:27:19 PM No.717281341
>>717242813 (OP)
This trash is going to flop in Japan, they really were nasty with how they fired all the VAs but KEPT the most popular one who couldn't be replaced, nips are were furious since it goes against their respectful cultural norms.
It barely gets any traction since the announcement. Most japs hate VAs being replaced unless there is a scandal or they die, they didn't even want Goku to have a proper VA for Z when he grew up, that's how autistic the nips are about it.
The only people buying this demake will be Americans who will use the dub.
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Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:28:48 PM No.717281452
>>717280886
you should know better than to trust /v/ with anything, specially obvious hyperboles like this. the localization is largely good with only a few questionable decisions here and there that people love to cherrypick but are almost inevitable in some many games with so much text.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:30:27 PM No.717281559
>>717281281
Cold Steel felt like it had the opposite problem where there were too many characters. It's hard to have any interesting development for the main cast if they have to share screentime with like 20 other characters, which is why most of the CS characters felt pretty bland to me even after 4 games
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:38:22 PM No.717282126
>>717281341
It's particularly egregious because all of the VAs had reprised their roles in the games since then, and so they were obviously able and willing to voice for them for the remake. Falcom going cheap on that (plus raping the OST) ensures anyone who loved the originals isn't going to buy this remake. They truly are retards.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:39:59 PM No.717282334
>>717277510
People simply didn't know any better.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:48:06 PM No.717282897
>>717277510
>Cold Steel IV release date: 2018
Haha...
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:49:01 PM No.717282979
>>717279419
They're my favorite because of how deeply they explore a single city and its inhabitants, but that's the same reason that others dislike them. It's ultimately down to personal preference.