Thread 717263097

How advanced should be physics in racing video games?

Play project cars

>>717263097 (OP)
It was nice of the Porsche to go check on him.

>>717263097 (OP)
Has this happened because it was rear wheel drive?

>>717263097 (OP)
Who cares?
>outrun
fun
>mario kart 64
fun
>beam.ng
fun

>>717263097 (OP)
If you can't make your car do a backflip, it's a shit racing game.

>>717263316

>going fast
>slight crest on the road
>air gets under the car without much opposing downforce
>we have liftoff

Racing games should have deep boosting mechanics so I can continue to go faster and faster.
More fast = more fun
Fuck realistic physics, fuck rubberbanding and items, just gimme speed.
Also some good tracks to test those skills on.

>>717263656
>More fast = more fun
a man of taste

>>717263097 (OP)
Why the fuck didn't he deploy lightweight carbon fibre wings to fly over the opponents?

>>717263097 (OP)
dumb esl

>>717263316
esl
>>717263372
mentally underage

>>717263097 (OP)
would it count if you flew the whole lap like this or is it against the rules

>>717263909
>no argument
I've yet to see a backflipless racing game that wasn't completely boring.

>>717264038
That's because you have ADHD, anon. You don't care about the racing OR the game part, you just wanna see the spinny thing go wheeee.

>>717263097 (OP)
Did he died?

>>717263316
The slope, and aerodynamics. 1) a lot of air got under it very quickly and 2) air didn't attach properly on the top.
Massive pressure differential between the underside (high pressure) and the top (low pressure) -> massive suction towards the low pressure zone (the top)

Was that meant to happen?

>>717264198
>you just wanna see the spinny thing go wheeee
Hell yea I love Rush 2049

>>717263316
There's a whole jewtube video explaining the physics behind why it happened. Back then engineers didn't understand downforce so well.

>>717263813
Show me your boobs !

>>717264434
Yes, that's why they were filming it.

You'd be amazed at what can fly in the right conditions. I once saw an inflatable river raft with 8 people lift 6' above the water in a head wind, hover for a bit and then flip over dumping everyone out before landing again.

Advanced enough to lead to SUPER TECHNIQUES

>>717265145
>fun but OP tech is discovered
>gets patched out the next day

>>717265145
>wreck your vehicle
>deliberately risk serious injury/death to self and bystanders
>tear up wall of track
>maneuver banned before next race

>>717263097 (OP)
do assetto or other racing sims simulate this?

>>717265145
>>717265220
>vehicle also ends up extremely/permanently damaged
>requires more funds to fix than you get from victory

>>717265426
>>requires more funds to fix than you get from victory
Isn't all major racing operating at a loss anyway?

>>717265426
don't care
still won

>>717265145
>uses off-meta technique that's possible within the mechanics of the game
>basedboys who insist against using it because muh honor cry about it
>technique gets banned next tournament
I hate when comp fags get to dictate not only the meta, but the game's rules as a whole

>>717263097 (OP)
Underground 2/Carbon is enough for me

>>717265145
Reminds me of Gran Turismo 4.
"How hard can I wallbang to save time, but also avoid getting the speed penalty".

>>717265558
>last lap
>everyone rides the wall to the finish line
I can see why they'd ban it.

>>717263097 (OP)
I remember this happening in grand turismo 2 with the suzuki I think and another car or two. However you couldn't fully flip so you'd be driving at 250mph sat vertically.

>>717265529
Yes, races are basically "test tracks" for the big brands and their systems

>>717265686
I actually see players do that in the last lap for F-Zero GX time trial record videos.

>>717263097 (OP)
How come there are no Soapbox games with advanced crash physics?

>>717265686
maybe if the devs did more than just circle maps, stuff like this wouldn't be an issue. not fair to blame the players for exploiting poor game design

>>717265873
Or removed all of the walls.

>>717265863
Would be harder than copy and pasting assets like normal

>>717265928
now we're talking

>>717263316
it was because it had too much front overhang
cresting at full throttle caused the nose to raise too much, making the car generate lift instead of downforce

>>717263909
mentally brown

>>717266068
>weebs will claim this is good animation

Should wear be simulated?

>>717265145
>this got banned

>>717264383
the cars are shaped like reverse planes wings to especially avoid take off situation.

>>717266358
quality van has been presented as an example of terrible animation for over 15 years, anon

>>717266595
yeah but if you don't pay attention to the pivoting caused by suspension travel, you might get some surprises

>>717263097 (OP)
They should all be 100% realistic but with hyper advanced sci-fi tech if you want it to feel arcade.

>>717266068
>QUALITY Van would look just as bad today except the whole sequence is CGI running at 12fps
Are we progressing or regressing as a species

>>717265145
Why didn't they give him a time penalty for driving on the wall, aka diving off-track?

>>717267123
all four are within the lines

>>717266823
regressing for sure. despite having the technology to make things easier, I can see this whole scene being done even worse somehow

>>717265145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3B6uR_gk04

Multiclass > RallyX > Rally > Touring > Stock cars > Random shit box > Whacky arcade > open wheel > “kart”

>>717266823
He didn't put all fours under the yellow line, so it's A-ok
God I hate the Yellow Line

>>717266068
There's no way this was not intentional.

>>717263097 (OP)
Advanced enough that you can be sent into a wall in ways other than delibrately turning into it and accelerating, and the probability of that increasing with increasing speed. It can be slow, it can be simplified, as long as you can actually fail by trying to do the right thing. A lot of modern games somehow can't get even that much right.

>>717263316
The Mercedes CLR was too sensitive to pitch changes in the surface of the track, it would lose downforce and this happened.

>>717267439
Meant for >>717267123

>>717267449
There's so many continuity errors that I just can't see it as anything but accidental and rushed, and probably juggled between two studios

>>717267591
that's the 911

>>717265145
>freebird intensifies

>>717265145
Wallriding being a thing is only acceptable when you have a damage model that will fuck you over backwards for attempting to.
>captcha GTA24

>>717265145
It's kinda weird to me that this was so novel because it was only done once. Has nobody else in racing history ever tried it?

>>717263097 (OP)
they fly now??

>>717266068
Oh man it's been ages since I last saw QUALITY van.

>>717266068
anime is fucking garbage, i cant understand how people watch that shit

>>717263097 (OP)
>rush_2049.webm

>>717264434
you get more points for a flip