Thread 717266636

What's the next vidya you want to get a MTG crossover?

>>717266636 (OP)
qrd on the Gwen rewriting her death thing?

>>717266636 (OP)
You'll never see this art outside of in your hand/command zone. You're going to play the flip side 99% of the time. ETB: Impulse draw isn't something you're letting sit around for more than a turn.

>get back to MTG
>my boy is banned
WHY

>>717267561
How this ever got past testing is beyond me

>>717267842
it wasn't a problem and you can clearly see the disgusting shit the meta became after it left. roots, cauldron, midrange, all those decks are now free to roam because you faggots couldn't tolerate good honest aggro

>>717266636 (OP)
None.
I want things to be their own things.

>>717266636 (OP)
I'm not even a magicfag, but man Spiderman and shit like it does NOT work well as a magic setting lol.
I feel bad for the fans of magics original settings. This shit is terrible.
Pretty crazy considering Final Fantasy looked really good. Not that everything needs to be a Fortnite crossover, but still.

>>717266636 (OP)
>transform Gwen Stacy
Yeah from a cute ska girl to a disgusting hip hop slop wigger wannabe slag.

>>717268745
I'm retarded, I read Gwen Stefani. I wondered why she would be in MTG lol.

Do green decks with tifa and the hydra still work in standard? What do i need for them?

>>717267842
Wizards doesn't test anymore

>>717268535
You can tell the designers actually loved Final Fantasy with all the references (well at least some of the games)

>>717268086
>Wah if the meta isn't agro mirrors slamming against each other that hate out any competition it is le bad

UOOOHH

>>717267842
You don't want that FIRE design, Anon?

>>717269817
Yes. It was a very nice tribute to it. There was some actual fans among the design team, and Square-Enix not letting them bastardize anything certainly helped.
The setting being largely fantasy, with magic and shit let itself slide into magics ruleset and theming quite nicely as well.

>>717266636 (OP)
>absolutely zero good Spider-Gwen stories
>Marvel still shoves her in everything

>>717269817
Or Square tard wrangled Hasbro harder than other companies. Probably because they're Nips that don't play Magic, but the Magic: Japan edition.

>>717269817
Wait, I haven't been keeping up with recent sets... People actually LIKE the FF slopover? Did they raceswap or troonify any other the characters or was it faithful? How was the art?

>>717269931
Those unbuttoned shorts were burned into my mind as a kid and I haven't been able to shake them for 25 years.

I'm fully expecting a One Piece crossover at this point

>>717266636 (OP)
YWNBYGO

>>717270258
Yeah well now you're an adult and she's the kid. So choose your words carefully big guy.

>>717270352
Hardly. One Piece has its own card game.

>>717270095
FF set was pure soul, art was alright but there was a lot of design that showed the set designers were long time fans and they got it.

It also simultaneously had probably the best limited play we've seen in a decade, standard and legacy are a bit more limited though as the set was pretty low power.

>>717270095
It sold like fucking crazy, faithful to all the characters, art is mostly good with the chase rares having new art from the OG artists

>>717270505
so does FF

>>717270610
K-kino...

>>717269931
>Then you may attach an Equipment you control to Yuffie
Lewd

>>717266636 (OP)
I dunno, but she's perfect for the hot glue general

>>717268815
You need to accumulate 3 Hollaback counters before she can transform.

>>717266636 (OP)
How would YGO x MTG be?

why the fuck does gwen stacy have an ETB effect and not a death trigger
if you're gonna ruin the game with UBslop at least do it right

>>717271182
A crossover where the each did a mini-set of each others most iconic cards in their game’s style could be cool. Would make more sense than a crossover with Spider-Man. That’s for damn sure.

>>717271182
>>>>>>slifer instead of osiris

CHRONO FUCKING CROSS, since they said that final fantasy would be a thing, chrono cross X mtg lives rent free in my mind.

>>717271182
Swamp, Dark Ritual, Entomb, Reanimate, I play this turn 1. Your move.

>>717270095
Square did not let them bastardize any of their characters, no.

>FF crossover
>Square Enix IP
>Marvel set
>Disney IP
>we never got a Sora secret lair or anything
Bullshit. Where is my boy? What colors/keywords would he have?

>>717271182
Exodia for the memes

>>717271172
On your turn, spell the next letter of B-A-N-A-N-A-S. When you complete BANANAS, win the game.

>youtube randomly decides to shill me MTG nostalgia content
>really want to fucking play again
>sold all my shit for 60c decks so I would be forced to play Arena for 60c format
>all I have is 3 old commander decks
>remember commander is full of the most insufferable niggers ever and its been raped to death by UB slop
if I go to my LGS or try to play over webcam is every commander game just going to be 3 other basedboys with universes beyond slop? I just want to use mai waifu titania again

why ATLA tho?
It's nowhere near as big as spiderman or final fantasy

>>717271182
this design is trying way too hard to do way too many things even by custom card standards
and yes I know it's a yugioh card I watched that shit growing up, but the point is you're so focused on translating a card from one game to another that its actual essence is completely lost in the process

>>717271182
This would be tremendously kino and would make untold millions, so of course the retarded trannies at Wizards won't do it.
Imagine the potential tho.
>fullart god and BEWD/DM cards that look like the ancient stone slates
>"hieratic foil" cards with little hieroglyphs
>Yugi/Kaiba/Judai etc. commanders for their archetypes
Just some ideas of the top of my head, this would be so fun.

>>717271797
Someone at WotC is probably a fan honestly, and it has a lot of nostalgia.
They will probably fuck it up and include Korra shit though I'd imagine.

>>717271831
It's a running problem with custom cards. STOP FILLING THE DAMN CARD WITH TEXT. make an ELEGANT CARD

>>717271471
I take six damage from the attack then you sac it?

>>717271797
because viacom's check cleared
do you really think there's any other reason they're choosing IPs? I mean fuck, you can make an argument for LOTR and even at a stretch final fantasy, but how the everloving fuck does something like spider-man or fallout or doctor who or SPONGEBOB not stick out like a sore thumb with the rest of MTG's identity?

>>717272000
Lmao people have zero idea how to design a card. This is shit

>>717271995
It's specifically TLA so I doubt Korra will be in

>>717270797
>>717270610
how the fuck they can get amano and nomura to draw their cards

>>717272124
Well, then that set might actually be cool then.

>>717272139
By paying, but also all the artists seemed pretty excited to do new art judging from the interviews they put out

>want to make custom card
>every website now needs you to create an account
god I fucking hate the internet nowadays

>>717272000
aren't face down cards hard defined as generic 2/2 creatures?

>>717271864
Me playing an imp deck in Monster Train

>>717271797
Because Nickelodeon wanted it. There was a SpongeBob Secret Lair, and I can pretty much promise we’ll get the Ninja Turtles to finish the trinity of shit Nick will whore out like no tomorrow.

I just wish I was better at building decks. My brain just doesn't register synergy, I just want cards that deal damage and monsters with big HP.

>>717272139
I don't think there's a single day of the week Nomura wouldn't want to get paid for drawing Sephiroth

>>717271730
youtube.com/watch?v=iS9t99I29ic

>Return to Lorwyn is by the guy behind Tarkir Dragonstorm
>Said set had a lot of attractive women
Will it be the same?

>>717272323
Then you're a nogames. There's a formula for deck building and it always starts with ENOUGH lands, ramp, and card draw.

>>717272323
I mean you have the whole internet at your disposal for inspo and help

After Final Fantasy and Sonic I think I'm good

>>717266636 (OP)
Give me No More Heroes

>>717272457
There's no humans in Lorwyn you dumb fag

>>717272457
>Said set had a lot of attractive women
You mean the bald angry BIPOCs?
Magic doesn't do attractive women unless they have japanese guest artists.

>>717272000
>>717272000
How's this for elegance

>>717272287
Technically no but Wizards has been avoiding cards that make them anything but 2/2 creatures for a bit now

Elder Scrolls, something with a lot of lore to pull from.

>3GG
>Enchantment
>Search your library for a creature card, reveal it, then exile it.
>As long as this enchantment is on the battlefield you gain all rules text on the exiled card

>>717272262
Download forge and call it a day

>>717272562
>legendary creature
good start, but
>doesn't have an enter the battlefield effect
>doesn't arbitrarily draw cards when you do your thing
>doesn't arbitrarily have a WUBRG activated ability so you can play with all your favorite goodstuff cards

this would never pass muster with WOTC. It's very important that your standard legal cards are designed with commander in mind, you know?

>>717272262
Magic Set Editor is still the gold standard

>>717272139
>how the fuck they can get amano and nomura to draw their cards
Guest artists are nothing new.

A Souls/Elden Ring set would actually be cool and seems quite possible.

>>717271574
It's kinda funny they caring about that meanwhile their characters become sidekicks to/alongside Disney characters in Kingdom Hearts.

>>717272735
this
every legend needs the following nowadays
>cheap cost
>pushed statline
>did you do [mechanic]? Then recieve payoff
>did you recieve payoff X times? Then recieve even more payoff and draw cards

>>717272287
Usually, but they can be made differently; Disguise/Cloak makes 2/2s with Ward 2, for one.

>>717272808
Japs love Disney and probably considered that an honor.
Big leap from that to letting their own classic characters be turned into troons and browns.

>>717272801
I feel like the themes of the games skew too far into certain colors (namely black) to have a satisfying full set

>>717270610
How in the fuck Amano ever had a career is beyond me. His work is absolutely awful.

>>717272867
god I fucking hate ward so much. I don't even know why, I think it just feels like they saw hexproof was a good enough mechanic and said "no it needs to be annoying as fuck just like everything else in the game is nowadays"

>>717272943
You are legitmately a tasteless retard

>>717267420
Not really what happened as far we know.

Basically Spider-Gwen did some magic to get herself into the main universe, meanwhile 616 Gwen is currently alive due to weapon X or something and killed Gwenpool (she's fine she's a ghost) and being honest Gwenpool is probably gonna just use reality warping to fix stuff at the end of the run

Has Magic ever done a set or a thing with real life myths? Like Robin Hood or Norse mythology or Greek. I'm a bit of a newer player so I wouldn't know.

>>717266636 (OP)
Who gives a shit. Stop spending money on terrible companies making terrible products

>>717272967
the problem with hexproof is its very hard to interact with it, which has always been a complaint especially in draft. Ward is effectively hexproof but you can bypass it in the lategame with extra mana or some other resource

>>717273046
Eldraine was basically an entire fairy tale based set

>>717273046
Kinda

>>717272562
It's not formatted well. Is it meant to trigger only with activated abilities? That's ambiguous. It should not have all abilities of the creatures either, since that can lead to unsolvable rules nightmares like a creature ability that simultaneously makes it not a creature (like a Theros god) and one that makes it a creature (like a self-animating Vehicle). Give it only triggered abilities.

>>717273046
It's like half of what it does, anon. Theros was Greek Myths (With Serial Numbers Filled Off), the Set. Same for Kaldheim, Amonkhet, Kamigawa...

>>717273046
the very first expansion was an adaptation of 1001 Arabian Nights
unless you mean stuff based on ancient mythology then yeah sorta, they've done sets that are basically "great value Olympus/Asgard"

>>717273191
OG theros was so kino
idgaf about fags claiming it was the beginning of lame theme park planes the constellation enchantment border was fucking sick

>>717272741
That program is probably more advance than anything Konami uses to make Yugioh cards. I noticed that Japanese TCG never adjust their font size.

>>717272139
Paying them. And MTG has had a substantial following in Japan for decades. They’ve been printing MTG in Japanese since 1995.

>>717271068

>$40

This version will be like $150 and the inevitable surge foil will be like $500+

>>717273434
I don't like them making the constellation border generic for enchantments. I don't like legendary cards having their own special border either honestly. Artifacts get a pass cause they were grandfathered in and more importantly their colorless nature necessitated it but at this point just make a unique border for every card type

>>717266636 (OP)
Anyone have this art without all the card stuff all over it?

>>717273580
modern mtg is fucking unsalvagble bro just dont think about it too much

>>717273046
Only the OG Arabian Nights set

>>717272939
>Gwyn RW
>Artorias BW
>Sif GW
>Seathe U
>Frampt W
>Ornstein RW
>Smough B
>Witches of Izalith RG
Just some random examples i thought of but i feel like you could have enough variety. There definitely is a bias towards red and black of course.

>>717273580
Well I think that's a dumb as fuck thing to complain about. Card types having unique special borders so you can immediately see what is what is a rare unambiguously positive change amidst an ocean of shit.
Hell, I even agree with MaRo that the Time Spiral border should have been the one they went with on a permanent basis. It's just way better.

>>717273695
why is this shitass card literally thousands of dollars

>>717266636 (OP)
>MTG
Cancer that should not exist.

>>717273706
Green is where I think it's lacking the most since every Souls game has themes of stagnation which is the opposite of green's growth

>>717273876
Reserved List.
Also it's absurdly cracked. Godtier Dredge enabler.

>>717273876
not many in circulation, there are no new ones being made, and collectors want them

>>717273876
Dredge

>>717273876
Because it's rare as shit, never reprinted, and one of the most powerful cards ever

>>717268086
80% of decks were Abuelo or the mouse. Fuck off.

>>717273046
Very very early on it was more grounded in that, but the original creators I believe said it was mostly cause they weren't sure how to come into their own yet, and I believe he said he regrets doing that, as he liked having something more original more.
>>717273365
I think Mirage is pretty cool, but I just like Arabian Fantasy settings a lot.
Unfortunately they disowned a lot of their stuff like that claiming its "racist". Like they think their cards are literally picrel or something.

>>717274074
And now it's Kona or Kaito. Good job.

>>717273940
Well maybe an Elden Ring set would work better, i think you could represent all colors there easily.

>>717273046
Nigga the 1st Magic expansion ever was about Arabin Nights featuring irl stories and places

>>717274074
Abuelo died for Omniscience's sins.
Omni us still shitting up standard as we speak

>>717273453
Japan gets cool exclusive shit too.

>>717274279
>Swings at you with a 24/24 on turn five
Nothing personel

>>717274324
>implying any match in current year mtg lasts till turn 5

>>717274383
>implying it should
Just shuffle up for a new game fag

Wait I thought I heard Spoodaman set was cancelled due to some Arena bullshit?

>>717274279
>what is up the beanstalk

>>717274240
I was considering getting into mtg early in the year. Mostly cause Ive just wanted a social hobby i could go out and do on a regular basis more than anything.
Picked up a collector pack on a whim at the store. Its expensive but I was making decent money at the time and didn't care. Didn't realize how expensive that shit would get later on mind you. Opened it up and got picrel mana foil. Its pretty cool I like the art a lot.

>>717274779
Spoodaman is not coming to Arena because Marvel threw a bitchfit and denied them the rights to distribute the set digitally. Probably thanks to Marvel Snap. So now they'll just swap all the art and names and call it Through the Omenpaths.

>>717274927
Yeah, that's what I heard. Guess I didn't expect them to go through with the physical release after that.

>>717274927
W for Arena honestly

>>717274915
Too bad this card is pure winmore slop

My wife

>>717275560
It does seem kind of busted, but the art is neat.

>>717275560
It's not winmore. It's a combo card. You're not supposed to play this honestly, you're meant to cheat it out and then play your whole deck for free to win on the spot.

>>717275560
>Yeah, I don't play Magic, how could you tell?

garbage dead game

>>717275660
You need birds with First Strike. They will trigger your commander one time, then the other birds will hit and trigger it a second.

>>717275650
What would let me "cheat it out" exactly?
I'm the anon that opened the card, so I'm not exactly that experienced in it.

>>717266636 (OP)
Love and Deepspace
Dustborn
Starfield
Fortnite
Roblox
people who still play mtg deserve all hate and ridicule. They are basically playing the western equivalent of Gacha except also being gay.

>>717276067
Go to oracle and search for cast without mana costs.

>>717271068
What's the catch?
No, seriously. There's a catch, right?

>>717271068
Thank god Arena is getting it's own versions of the poopypantsman set because Marvel didn't want there to be two card games with spidercock on it

>every card is like a paragraph long of instructions
This is why I've only ever gotten into Pokemon TCG. I'm sure it's fine if you familiarize yourself with your own deck. But do you really expect me to understand my opponent's cards off the fly, especially when I can barely read his shit upside-down?

I'm not gonna pretend that Pokemon doesn't fuck this up occasionally. But when it comes to shit like Yugioh or MtG, at least 80% of the cards I've seen are really complicated.

>>717276237
Probably "harnessing the mcguffin" has some minor drawback on top of all but winning you the game like the meme ring.

>>717276237
>>717276417
Okay I see that you need to harness it first before the infinity ability is active.
That's really not obvious, it looks like that's just an ability called infinity, because so many Universes Beyond cards (including ones in the Spider-Man set) use the exact format of "flavorful ability name -- actual mechanics".
Also it's literally the only card we've seen so far with the harness keyword.

>>717275580
I can't believe this is an official card. Besides looking pretty horny with the eyes and the blush.
I don't think she could waterbend

there is the synergy
>>717274915

>>717270550
>had the best limited play
>had
For fuck’s sake. I never tried it and we’re already on EoE aren’t we.
By the time I redownload the Arena client we’ll be on Spiderman!

>>717276407
>every card is like a paragraph long of instructions
I understand that honestly. Definitely seems daunting. Its also part of why I won't touch Yu-Gi-Oh.
But I played some games with my friends when the FF set came out, and it actually did make me appreciate the way MtG's card rules play with each other. From my experience, they all did seem pretty explicitly worded, and once you understand a little bit about how it works and interacts with other cards and rules, it makes a lot of other ones click into place as well. At least that was my experience.
>read it upside down
I'm sure you could hold it and read if you asked.
Pokemon is neat though in that it has depth within its cards simplicity. But I just don't have much interest in playing it myself.

>>717276554
Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure they never print reminder text on full-art cards as it looks like shit already on normal cards.

>>717276067
Anything that lets you:
>put permanents directly onto the battlefield from your hand without paying their mana cost
>enchantment reanimation from the graveyard
>casting/manifesting it as a facedown permanent and then using an exile-then-return-to-the-battlefield effect it so it returns face up
>"you may cast this without paying its mana cost"

>>717276590
>there is the synergy
Nice.

>>717266636 (OP)
That's not magic.

>>717276745
Yeah I know. The infinity symbol is just lame. It doesn't come across as an actual mechanics symbol over just being text. It should be more stylized or something.

Women in modern mtg cards be flatter than a 2x4

is tabletop simulator a decent way to play mtg? And if so, are there dedicated lobbies for oldschool mtg without all the gay modern shit that ruined the game starting ~2019 or so?

I don't know anything about MtG but I helped buy a pack of FF ones for my friend and I found out that apparently foils suck since they curl.

>>717277180
>is tabletop simulator a decent way to play mtg?
With friends.
>And if so, are there dedicated lobbies for oldschool mtg without all the gay modern shit that ruined the game starting ~2019 or so?
Unlikely.

>>717277180
Your only hope is looking for people who play premodern, but premodern players mostly suck shit and expect you to shell out for four copies of actual Gaea's Cradle to play their format

>>717277257
>With friends.
fug, all my friends quit after like a year or so of playing commander only after every 60c format got ruined

>>717276062
Not how it works, retardkun. It only checks how many players were hit. So if it's a 4 man edh game, you can get 3 triggers per combat step

>>717277238
Yup, this has been a problem for decades and they never fixed it

>>717277180
I just play Shandalar 2003, it's a mod that goes up to Scourge
https://chillbrain.net/shandalar.html

>>717277180
>oldschool mtg without all the gay modern shit
The only real way to get this is building your own drafting cube so you can curate exactly the kind of game you want to play

>>717271068
>7 mana
>gain slow advantage entierly relying on you already having a resource in your graveyard, because the card literally does nothing by itself
This card looks terrible outside of Standard

>>717277939
Anyone else feel like telling this anon why he's retarded? I don't have it in me today

>>717274279
>ramps
>nobody plays land destruction
>play massive value creatures and win

>>717278046
Because it's an indestructible mana rock?

>>717278046
Modern kills you on turn 4. This shit is a fucking mana rock until at least turn 7 and does something on turn 8 at best

>>717266636 (OP)
Why are they trying so hard to make Spiderman's supporting cast independent of Spiderman himself? No one cares about MJ or Gwen beyond their relationship to Peter.

>>717277939
Yeah anon I also thought The One Ring was shit at first because there are a gorillion ways to draw cards.

>>717278174
That is a late game mana dump, yes.

>>717273796
How would something like Progenitus work with that border?

>>717267842
They stopped playtesting cards the moment Arena was a thing.
Seriously, they just want to release cards and then easily change/errata them which is only possible with digital card games. Essentially they just want to be Hearthstone

>>717278198
>an indestructible mana rock for 2 mana that taps for B
How is that ever bad in any situation ever

can mtg crash and burn already? Its corpse has been beaten for every bit of money possible for 6 years now

>>717270035
Maybe only for the designs but you can tell that the set is very heavy on Squaresoft FF so they must have had some freedom

>>717277614
No, it triggers whenever one or more Birds hit a player. So it does trigger three times by hitting four players, but if there are first strikers they will hit first during their own damage step, creating their own triggers; these will resolve, then you will have the regular hitters deal damage for their own triggers.
>>717275660
Include Murmuring Mystic and other Bird token generators. FF came with a new guy that does that.
You need more card selection; Brainstorm, Ponder. I'd rather have Fact or Fiction, Consult the Star Charts or Dig Through Time over Airborne Aid.

>>717274279
Not in the last decade at least

Loving trading card games is such a massive pain in the ass.

>>717278301
Instead of printing a gorillion mana symbols just have ONE [color] mana symbol with a number in it. Like with Colorless.

>>717278461
Nah, they've only just started the real money squeezing operation with Standard-legal Universes Beyond.
Unless they fuck up in some completely stupid way, they could easily keep this shit rolling for another few years before normies get bored and move onto the next fad.
I imagine most of the oldfags will have been alienated at that point, so it might die at that point, but really I can see it limping along as a zombie for the rest of time.

>>717274927
Reading between the lines, it's not that at all. Spiderman was originally going to be a tiny set like asscreed was, but due to a combination of factors including how reviled aftermath sets were and how pathetic asscreed did, it got converted into a proper small set for standard. WotC likely didn't realize until way down the line that they never paid for the digital rights for spiderman, even after the project was changed in scope, because they didn't do it for asscreed either.

>>717275660
>>717278573
Also, you play some truly dogshit birds like Storm Crow and exclude some of the cracked ones like Alrund/Hakka.

>>717278573
>don't have birbs in the art
You didn't get the memo. It's a themed deck

>>717278925
You can still include a lot of good cards you need while still remaining a theme deck.

>>717278884
Storm Crow is iconic and I got the Jesper Eising art. The deck is more about a meme theme and aesthetics than about power level. Otherwise I wouldn't run dogshit like Plea for Guidance

>want to escape the hell that is modern mtg acording to wotc
>try commander
>the rules set is fundamentally flawed
>flawed rules become even worse because commanderfags are the biggest basedboy redditors on the planet
>wotc noticed it popularity and has already been milking it to death just like every other format
there is just no salvaging this dogshit game man

>>717279123
And all that being said it's still the best TCG by a landslide thougheverbeit

>>717279029
well, there's birds in a lot of art

>>717273876
Reserve list - collectors/"investors" didn't want those cards to be reprinted ever
So the format with those old cards being playable is pretty expensive.
But then we have modern which also has decks that can be pricey
Then they cam up with Standard which basically is only the three newest sets or so. Aimed at new players who didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a single deck, the format was quite popular but like every TCG in the west, it also got expensive because you have a few people who treat it like a stock market and inflate prices.
Seriously, ever TCG in the west is affected by this behavior

>>717279232
This card blows ass, regardless of how great the art is. You don't want to wait for your cards. You want them now.

>>717279245
Reserve list is just a boogeyman. It was always a "gentleman's agreement", and there is nothing stopping them from printing functional reprints.

>>717279291
It blows so much ass it dominated Standard when it was legal and near singlehandedly sustained UB Faeries' draw needs. You need to wait, sure, but it's still one fucking mana for three cards. There are very little better turn 1/2/3 plays then Ancestral Vision.

LOL FART JOKE
LOL FOURTH WALL BREAK

>>717279530
Yeah but if you draw it late game its a dead card, and EDH is a singleton format. I can see it being great in standard or limited since you can just run 4 of them in a 60 card deck.

>>717277939
You could cheat that thing out so, so easily on one of your first few turns and pay for at least part of the Harness cost with a Dark Ritual in Legacy.

>>717279441
>and there is nothing stopping them from printing functional reprints.
Killing the secondary market might not be a good idea.
Nobody wants to find out what would happen if that containment was breached

>>717279584
God the red mana symbol over the fire looks like SHIT why didn't you make it blend into the fire jizzards

>>717274927
>the only way we can get Universes Within is if they're legally mandated to do it
why can't those cunts that spook them about the reserve list every couple of years harass them about this too, they did it for like two secret lairs and then stopped

>>717274915
Who told you that?
Everyone knows that Draft is the best format.

i hope danny rand gets a card in the marvel set, he's my favorite super hero :)

>>717279991
Who told me what? Wrong post?

>>717279789
Before commander plagued magic, multiplayer cards were dirt cheap. Rhystic study for example was really affordable. I say kill the secondary market for being a bunch of greedy jews.
I remember the best trade I ever made, 3 copies of Geist of St Taft for a stack of cards that included a playset of swords to plowshares.
Exploiting the comp fags is the best way to trade.

>>717280106
Rhystic Studies was affordable because it is complete dogshit outside of commander. In any 1v1 format it's just "your spells cost 1 more."

>magic the transitioning
the game is basically fortnite and cod now, an advertising platform that lost it's original identity
yugioh clears, though the day they do collabs is the day it dies too

>>717280106
I don't like it either but the might just flock to other games.
But I'm pretty sure they already do. They might go to other hobbies.
Like retro games :^)

>Commander takes over MtG
>This is the player base that play it
What's the fucking point of playing the damn game at this point?

>>717280202
It's dogshit in CEDH too because anyone who isn't retarded just pays the 1.

>>717280262
Hopefully we all join the proxy club. Then we can have whatever we want.

>>717272000
That is dogshit.

>>717280257
Yugioh is soulful yes, but it's also unplayable dogshit.
Never in my life will i sit through another 15 minute snake eye fiendslop combo, that shit made me quit the game forever.

you now remember when one designer at mtg really wanted rogues to be a good tribe so they sneaked in extremely strong cards into various sets only so when Rise of Zendikar released it could all come together to be the most cancerous shit ever

>>717280460
Brother I'm gonna be real, you're going to have to pay me money to read that sheet of paper.

>>717280257
yugioh hasn't been playable in years, that's why people fled to older formats like edison and goat.

>>717280460
Literally what is the autism around poison counters?

>>717280929
People have 40 life in commander but still die to only 10 poison counters so it's understandable that it can be irritating to casuals.

>>717277238
Yeah you're meant to have them on some sort of rigid sleeve at good temperature/humidity and even THEN they still warp

>>717272562
Pinwheel?

>>717280257
>yugioh
LMAO.

>>717277621
it's always been an inherent problem but it only became a "they literally come out of the pack pringled" issue around 2017 or so. And people have been extremely vocal about it and wotc just can't be fucked fixing it I guess

>>717281112
YuGiOh is fucking great honestly. Only problem is you have to play with other people who like YuGiOh, a game for sickos.

>>717280460
>Six ways of scoring points
>FOURTEEN ways of losing points
>Entry is $5, topped at $8 per event
I'm confident this is either made up ragebait, or they're running a scam and actively want to chase people away

>>717277238
Good lord, they got worse! I had no idea.

>>717280460
>smash bros club but for mtg
Casuals were a mistake.

>>717280460
>perform a combo within the first 60 minutes of the game
>within the first 60 minutes
>first 60 minutes
how fucking long does commander go on for? I've actively avoided this format my entire life, even back when it was called EDH cause it sounded gay. a normal MTG game is like 10 minutes at worst unless you're both controlfags

>>717281502
I'm convinced it's fake because if you show up, pay 5 dollars, deal combat damage once and concede immediately you leave with 7 dollars of credit

>>717281647
It CAN go that long, but that's pretty rare, at least for my friend group. I never play commander with random faggots.
Them writing that though makes is sound like hour+ long games are the norm there, at least for the person who wrote those rules.

>>717281647
I've had an EDH match last 5 hours unironically

>>717281647
My games take around 20-40 minutes unless there's 4 control decks on the table.

>>717281853
How many people were playing? That's bananas.
The most I've played is with two other people, and even that still tends to take over an hour.

>>717281003
But the same is true in normal formats? You have 20 life and die to 10 what's the difference.

>>717266636 (OP)
after how they censored lulu's lulus?
NONE

>>717282046
damn this card is nuts

>>717281729
Bring Rogakh as your commander, fill your deck with haste creatures and removal. Show up, deal damage to someone, cast your commander. Next turn remove anything. Leave with 8 dollars.

>>717282046
I love this lil nigga.

>>717280460
commander players are insufferable. Theyre dumb as fuck but believe themselves to be masterminds when they trick even dumber players into doing what they want. Best part is when they try to socially manipulate people into making their decks worse or try to paint you as the bad guy for playing to win as if winning in a card game is some kind of sin

>>717282046
what's with nosewater and the squirrel tribal autism

>>717282003
That's the point, commander is designed to let you have more survivability but poison negates that additional survivability.

>>717282310
They're just his favorite creature type because he got to create them.

>>717281476
>great
>wasting 15 minutes per turn
Not at all. It's slow as fuck and brainless.

>>717282310
They're unbelievably kino, that's what.

>>717271797
>tho
you're too young and retarded to understand why

>>717275580
>no effect related to sacrificing/on destruction
???

>>717283176
That's her as a spirit. Her human self is going to be a separate card most likely.

>>717282707
Best looking liliana yet just because her regular design is so hideous.

>>717271831
It's just BS regardless, as part of the reason the Gods are doodoo worthless not worth playing cards is their lack of protection, so why would it have Shroud

>>717282857
But zoomers were the ATLA audience THO
This is THEIR nostalgia

>>717283404
He probably based it on the anime effects where they have protection from most things (except when the writers forgot)

>>717283325
insanely gay post

>>717280460
That's pretty cool actually.
It is a shame Hasbro destroyed commander creativity by printing OP staples, bullshit commanders and bullshit off-field abilities.

>>717280460
didn't read, don't give a fuck about your goodboy points system, I'll play however I want

>>717283796
She's ugly as shit bro get some standards.

>>717272446
So, yeah I know YGO is glorified solitarie, but how much of this is exaggeration and how much is reality?

>>717283878
Not him but it's so much worse than you think, the game is literally, unironically 10+ minute combos turn 1 every single time and if you don't have multiple answers in your 5 card opening hand as the 2nd player then you can just scoop.
It's the least playable TCG in existence.

>>717283872
Maybe this is more to your tastes

>>717283872
I repeat: gay as fuck post

>>717283878
No that's very much how every match goes
Second player needs enough anti-gas in their initial draw so that they can have their turn or they get anti-gassed themselves by shit like Apollousa

>>717284226
You're right she looks decent here.

>>717284316
It's really her slicked back hair and the dumb ornament that bother me.

>>717284754
>>717284014
So, if I understand correctly, every deck is a balance of your own turn 1 win combo + disruption, and first prays they draw their combo starter while second prays they draw some disruption and their first actual draw is their combo starter?

>>717285130
Pretty much. If you don't draw a starter you're bricked and scoop and if you don't have at least 2+ interrupts and your own starter as the one going second you're also bricked and scoop.
This is every YGO match.

anyone got any advice on how to improve this roots brew?

>>717285236
lol