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Kojima is a good producer and quality manager when on a tight leash, but left to his own devices, he starts going full retard.
He was being tard-wrangled hard at Konami; he worked as part of a team, and his obsession with movies added that extra flavor to the games. But now that he has full control over the production, all he does is make barren movie games with gameplay as an afterthought, vicariously living out his movie director inferiority complex. He has also gone full woke, crawling at holyjew celebs' feet for a shadow of a chance to direct a movie.
There's nothing worse than a "creative person" that doesn't have to answer to anyone.

If Konami made a new MGS game with a new director, it would actually have a chance of being good. But a remake is gonna be shit regardless, especially considering that the japs are now aiming for western sensibilities in their games.

Yeah nah.
Kojima is a retarded goober, but you’re choosing to take sides with a company that spent the better part of two decades if not more basically fucking EVERY franchise and series they owned rights to IN THE ASS repeatedly.

Trueth.

>>717272346
This.

The essence of your argument is a defense for the existence of middle managers, not saying you are wrong but it's interesting

>>717271935 (OP)
Konami should have kicked his ass to the curb after MGS4.

>>717271935 (OP)
I am 100% convinced that Kojimbo stole the script of MGS1 from someone else. Everything he's written since is trash.

>>717271935 (OP)
>all he does is make barren movie games with gameplay as an afterthought

Except it's the opposite. His ability as a game designer is getting better and better while his ability as a writer/movie director is getting worse and worse.

>>717271935 (OP)
This.

>>717273432
>His ability as a game designer is getting better and better

>>717271935 (OP)
> Kojima is bad game designer
You've had a stroke while typing
> I haven't played any of his games
>>717273432
Doubling down on that

MGS was his magnum opus and novelty narrative spanning multiple decades, having multiple plot twists and room for fan theories, breaking 4th wall, while DS is good as a new setting, looking at DS2 I'm not sure it'll go anywhere (hopefully not full ubislop way)

>>717273432
>game designer
kek, Kojima is Cartman eating cheetos on the couch while people develop and design the games he puts his name on. Also, Death Stranding sucks and everyone involved should be punished. Look at the credits.

>>717273612
and suddenly it makes sense

>>717273829
dumb zoomer

>>717272346
They exited the industry and recently come crawling back

>>717271935 (OP)
Kojima is a hack, very simple.

>>717273612
Piss Walker is the game Kojima has written mostly by himself. Shuyo Muarata wrote MGS4 and both MGS5 games. Also wrote Death Stranding.

>>717271935 (OP)
He's produced nothing but gold ever since leaving Konami.

>>717272346
>basically fucking EVERY franchise and series they owned rights to IN THE ASS repeatedly
kojima was the one that handed the castlevania ip to the lords of shadows devs during his brief time as a vp.

>>717271935 (OP)
He's produced nothing but shit ever since leaving Konami.

>>717271935 (OP)
>fuck around wasting tens of millions of dollars on licensed music, epic trailers and Hollywood actors for years
>game comes out unfinished
I have no idea why i was supposed to hate Konami here. They simply got rid of a lazy bum primadona pissing away their money.

>>717274814
I don't understand why lord of shadows was so hated. I thought it was a pretty good game?

>>717275367
It was just worse in every way God of War. It was absolute trash that didn't take anything from the Castlevania franchise.
I would spit on its grave if they made one.

Idea guys need good producers to keep them in check.
That's why Ken Levine couldn't get Bioshock Infinite out the door until Rod Fergusson was brought on board and why Judas has had no meaningful updates since its alleged 2024 release date.

Or like >>717274814 pointed out
>Kojima gives MercurySteam the Castlevania IP
>kills the franchise, only lingering relevance is being half of the genre name metroidvania and the abomination of a Neteflix show
>Nintendo gives those same devs the Metroid IP and lets them use the vaunted Dread subtitle
>critical acclaim, best selling game in the Metroid franchise
Hell Nintendo is pretty famous for having a strong producer pipeline and also for killing a lot of retarded ideas in the pitch room, as a lot of their devs have attested to.

he really mindbroke this board, huh?
gonna spam the DS2 webms all day again?

>>717273432
director =/= game designer

>>717273612
policenauts and snatcher are good

>>717275819
The fuck does Dark Slop 2 has to do with him?

>>717275287
True.

>>717271935 (OP)
Death Stranding doesn't appeal to me personally but I can at least respect Kojima for trying to do something, anything different and unique in the homogenized landscape of AAAslop

Meanwhile Konami is doing nothing but remakeshit and pachinko machines

okay
but can konami rotate like he did?

>>717276165
Death Stranding is the definition of homogenized of AAAslop, retard

>>717274052
false ))

>>717276165
>respect Kojima for trying to do something, anything different and unique
This argument whould've worked 6 years ago. DS2 is the most bland risk-averse sequel imaginable.

>>717271935 (OP)
the last time i was interested in any of his projects was PT, and his work since then is probably all mid but i dont believe its because konami was actually the real hero behind the scenes tard wrangling him. Konami wanted to just make mobile and pachi slop and abandon games they suck ass.

>>717273612
I dropped mgs for gbc it bored me

>>717271935 (OP)
Death Stranding 2 was the best game I've played this year. It's my GOTY pick.

>>717277335
is this a copy pasta that went over my head?

name 3 people who work at Konami
thought so
meanwhile Yojimbo is a household name
wonder why that is

>>717274814
I've never actually seen anything stating what Kojima did as "producer" on Lords of Shadow.
Based on everything I've seen of him as producer, I'm not really inclined to believe he actually contributes much in the role and is mostly hands-off (like Shinji Mikami), more worried with talking to execs and ensuring funding is flowing to the team than anything.

>>717271935 (OP)
All bullshit. Kojima despite being the boss holds his crew opinions in high regard and will listen to them even if it means trashing an idea he has been thinking for a while. He has said so himself. He doesn't just do whatever the fuck he wants as a rockstar developer, he's a pragmatic. The retards at Konami really hindered MGS4 and made that game into the chopped disjointed game it turned out to be. This is well documented on Youtube. MGS4 was going to be the best MGS but Konami had to interfere and fucked it all up and that game still won 10/10 everywhere.

>>717273612
MGS4 and MGS5 is even more complex than what this Fukishima guy did. Konami nut huggers are low IQ subhumans.

>>717278194
This is the rhetorical capacity of Konami nut huggers. Now wonder these retards dont understand any Kojima game.

>>717278213
>MGS4 and MGS5 is even more complex than what this Fukishima guy did

>>717271935 (OP)
Kojima is a talentless hack

Honestly, I don't know how people have the energy to still fight about this like what, 13 years later? That's how old that original pic about how Kojima is a hack was, and people are still debating that.
I dunno. Just seems exhausting.

>>717278007
The only thing I remember from that MGS4 documentary is an overworked senior programmer begging to stop with the changes so they can finalize the build and Kojima shitting on him for being lazy and not ambitious enough.

>>717271935 (OP)
>There's nothing worse than a "creative person" that doesn't have to answer to anyone.
Holy based FPBP

also /thread

>>717271935 (OP)
why do zoomers like kojima if they only played his last 2 games?

He failed since nobody really liked or talks about the DS sequel. It was a slight downgrade in most areas.

>>717271935 (OP)
Based Kojima cosplaying as the Hulkster in tribute to his death

>>717273612
Really makes you think...

Kojimbros, our response?

>>717271935 (OP)
Kodemi Hojima

>>717271935 (OP)
Kojima turned to shit after Fukushima died

>>717271935 (OP)
>If Konami made a new MGS game with a new director, it would actually have a chance of being good.
REVENGEANCE is the best Metal Gear indeed and i am not memeing

>>717271935 (OP)
>The inventor of aids

>>717273612
>fukushima meme

>>717280148
The memes.

Because MGS4 was a tight masterpiece, right?

LOOOOOOL

>>717278007
I don't recall reading anywhere that 4 was heavily messed with by Konami
>>717281489
I just finished replaying it actually, its still great. Cutscenes can be a but lengthy and act 3 is disappointing but the rest is 8/10. Can't wait to do a Boss Extreme run

>>717271935 (OP)
truly

>>717271935 (OP)
im not reading all that
saved the pic tho

>>717271935 (OP)
Can someone here explain why Silent Hill HD collection was released in the shape that it was in? Can anyone explain why Metal Gear Survive came out? Seriously.

>>717283321
Survive is the 3rd best game in the series after Revengence and MGS3.

>>717283079
>zoomer filtered by a paragraph of text
like clockwork. Ask Alexa to read it to you

>>717283321
In retrospect, it was pretty much proto-Death Stranding.

>>717271935 (OP)
Factual.

>>717281735
https://youtu.be/xI6aLk6xRbo?feature=shared&t=1626

time and time again we learn how limitations are actually pretty good, keeping devs in check and making them think outside the box
>>717278930
he used the word stabilize, that was a pretty funny moment and made me realize just how much of an 'ideas' guy kojimbo is

>>717284335
Every game has cut content, its apart of development. See the Grand Game Plan for MGS2

>>717271935 (OP)
Hackjewman.

>>717285823
didnt konami got hacked at some point?

Oh ye

>>717271935 (OP)
>>717284473
>Kojima under a leash
>one boring movie after another telling dumbass stories about retardation like "soldier genes"
>what little gameplay they have is among the worst you can find on the stealth genre, so bad its mechanics had zero influence on the stealth genre

>Kojima on his own
>MGSV
>kino operator simulator focused on gameplay that can be played for hundreds of hours and that people still play a decade later
>Death Stranding 1 and 2
>utterly autistic games in utterly kinographic settings that have more gameplay than MGS1, 2, 3 and 4 combined

>>717288029
>dumb zoomer clearly never played a single real MGS game
Why even open your stupid mouth then? Just makes you look like an extra retard

>>717288029
This

>>717271935 (OP)
It's really hard to believe how bad all his post-Konami games are, if you can even call them that.

>>717288508
omg i looove boring ass bloat!!!