Thread 717300410

Why did Tactical RPGs die?

>>717300410 (OP)
Battles tend to take a long time and shareholders pushed for MUH REALISM and GWAFICKS hard, which Tactics games don't really have a lot of overlap with. You can have the prettiest art style in the world, it won't impress graphics fags unless it's 4k and you can see peach fuzz on every character's cheek.

>>717300410 (OP)
They didn't, they just switched to mobile.

>look forward to Metal Slug Tactics
>games literal fucking years to come out
>it's just run-based RNG shit
Gee, thanks.....

>>717301548
Did you think it was going to be an RPG?

>>717301628
Would be pretty cool if it was.

>>717300410 (OP)
They didnt.

Some jRPGs arent really "tactical RPGs" or representative of anything except jRPGs btw

>>717300410 (OP)
>Why did Tactical RPGs die?

People in general are stupider.

>>717301628
SRPG with a clearly hand-crafted scenario would have been preferred, yes. "RNG fucking me in the ass" would have just been an optional mode, not the only thing.

You only need PSP level hardware to max out the genres potential so they got most things right that needed to right be early on.

Do you consider this a strategy game or an rpg?
captcha: 2DMNW, lol

>>717301886
Case in point, the guy who thinks "stupider" is a word.

>>717301628
NTA, but I was similarly anticipating Metal Slug Tactics for years, and ended up being very disappointed by it. Whatever method they use to generate the levels simply doesn't allow for enough variety. By the time you hit only about the 20 hour mark or so, you start seeing the exact same levels over and over again, which takes away the "tactical" feel of the game and it just becomes a matter of recognizing levels instead of actually using "tactics" to get you through each situation.

When is Atlus making a 3rd one? I remember the first 2 being very successful.

>>717300410 (OP)
They didn't, you're just not looking hard enough.

>>717302286
The first game turned me off so fucking hard with its writing.

>>717301958
tactical RPG with a strategic layer

>>717301968
What did this creature mean by this?

>>717300410 (OP)
They weren't tactical enough.

>>717301968
>Doesn't know what comparative adjectives are

No need to put your lack of education on display, anon. But I appreciate the transparency.

there are plenty, they are just mostly indie and mostly shit
you now remember that wahmen made kickstarter slop game that literally traced tactics ogre portraits

>>717300498
Fire Emblem and Valkyria both had shown that Square/Disgaea/SF were terrible to play

Are the Shadowrun games tactical based?

Too grindy. There should be less statmaxxing and more emphasis on unlocking skills/items. Otherwise every battle becomes identical 1/4 into the game.
>gank the lowest health enemies with optimal attack order
>debuff the big main guy while running away
>gank the big main guy

>>717301628
i didn't think it be 3 hours long with little replayabillty

>>717300410 (OP)
>"""Tactical""" RPG
>You have one action per turn
>95% of the time it's clicking the attack button
>Character building is braindead
These games are far too watered down.

>>717302194
Definitely reminds me of a weird Metal Slug adaptation of Into the Breach where it's more like a puzzle game than tactics. Although it's even easier because you get a ton of pieces to solve every 'puzzle', and there's not a lot of variety within the levels themselves. At least the art is nice

were they ever even alive?

They fell out of popularity because of >>717300498 and they continue to stay less popular because of >>717302486. Indie tactical RPGs have the same ailment 99% of RPG-maker games have where the creator is trying to sell you on their super unique story and super cool OCs but forgot to make the gameplay fun or different from existing titles.

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>>717300410 (OP)
>>717302310
Sword of Convallaria mentioned

>>717302530
Fire Emblem was one of the most shallow games I've ever played.

>>717301748
What is that?

>>717305010
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1157390/King_Arthur_Knights_Tale/

>>717300410 (OP)
they didn't. They're just exclusively made by mid to tindy devs now who have meh artstyles and tend to fumble at least 1 major thing

>>717300410 (OP)
Unicorn Overlord came out a little over a year ago, I'd say the genre is alive and well given that

But the best game of 2024 was one?

>>717300410 (OP)
I found convalaria story mode boring

>>717300410 (OP)
>Why did Tactical RPGs die?
Huh?

>>717305009
stop playing on baby mode, dipshit

>>717305576
Jefuty's game was very good.

>>717305576
which shitty gacha is this? gfl2?

>>717304935
its still going?

no instant gratification

>>717305576
>>717305779
I don't know what game is but I'd put money on this being an unplayable Chinese gacha.

>>717305761
I'd rather just play a better game honestly.

>>717305868
chinese gacha devs squirreled away some money to make an actual game

>>717305010
It sucks dick

>>717305818
First anniversary of global was this week. A bunch of events going currently.
>>717306117
What is it then?

>>717306606
that one I recognize, it's Reverse Collapse: Code Name Bakery

>>717306606
'Reverse Collapse: Code Name Bakery'
expired english license

Baldur's Gate 3 won game of the year.

>>717300410 (OP)
They're still being made all of the time. Battle Brothers released around a decade ago and spawned a bunch of clones and so did Nu-Xcom.

>>717300410 (OP)
Thinking and taking your time is not popular. You want to be popular these days you need an iframe dodge-roll or a gun.

>>717306606
might as well try again then, no romance yet?

Play Troubleshooter.

>>717305642
It is desu, I thought the night crimson storyline was good minus the lesbian shit, but the rest of the storylines are a boring slog. The gacha part of the game is good, though.

>>717300410 (OP)
Is that the gacha srpg? I hate that it looks so good because I'll never play it.

>>717302486
I wonder if that artist is anti-AI lol.

>>717305693
OP doesn't realize RPGs made outside of Japan exist.

>>717307192
>Is that the gacha srpg? I hate that it looks so good because I'll never play it.
This is my eternal grievance with all gacha.
So much effort thrown at the way it looks and feels. All in service of the devil.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2560500/Astral_Throne/
anyone play this? looks okay, had it on my wishlist

>>717307381
nevermind found the dev's "team" page

>>717306748
>>717306750
Interesting. I'll give it a look see.
>>717307113
No romance, yes. The new spiral story thing is about the TRUE end of the main kingdom you're familiar with if you played any of that previously.

>>717302310
fellow soc bro

>>717307350
>This is my eternal grievance with all gacha.
My biggest gripe is that gachashit has to dumb down mechanics to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and nowhere is this more egregious than in srpgs.

>>717307206
I doubt that considering he posted one

>>717307468
>Artstyle is kinda shit
>Main artist on the team is the tranny
Like clockwork. Maybe the story and characters are normal since the rest of the guys aren't troons,but that is a gamble.

>>717307350
I play Genshin Impact and enjoy it a lot(and recommend it) but I definitely don't want a FOMO aspect in a SRPG, I like to play them over long periods of time. I can imagine the balance being annoying too.

>>717307576
Don't get discouraged by the steam reviews
scroll down and filter by english reviews and you'll see it's like 94%
I was initially put off by that too
apparently a lot of chinks got upset because a virtual girl in some other game by the devs had a boyfriend or some shit, I forget (yes, really)

>>717307576
I am, i guess i will try it again too bad about no romance yet