The famed creator of Ren and Stimpy though the story of Super Paper Mario was trash and did not care for any of the OCs invented for the game.

Was he right /v/?

what is Ren and Stipy?

Nah, Super was great.

Super Paper Mario sucks

John K is a try hard retard that isn't worth listening to

>>717302023
It was a Timon and Pumbaa ripoff made to appeal to 90s gross-out humor

why are paper mario fans the biggest fags on the internet? its so odd

Final fantasy was good though

Granted every Nintendo game is based of a fucking retarded premise. Every single one

>>717302046
You are a zoomer.

>>717302149
64 fans are chill.

>>717301890 (OP)
I don't think he actually played the game. Also, he cares about video games at all? I assumed he was too old for that and just wrote them all off.

The love story twist coming out at the end was pretty bad story telling, but Super in general had some nice writing sprinkled everywhere else throughout the story. The biggest problem with the game was the gameplay itself and level design, it it was converted into a standard Paper Mario game and crunched together a bit, it would have been on par with the first two games.

>>717301890 (OP)
He still would like TTYD, r-right boys?

The George Lucas of cartoons. He needed others keeping him hinged instead of having full control of R&S. His other indie cartoons are shit too.

>>717301890 (OP)
He was right in the sense that Super Paper Mario NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP. I would not be surprised if the script for it was twice as long as Paper Mario 1 & 2 combined.

>>717302263
Not an argument

Why is Ren and Stimpy held in high esteem or considered important? Its just some schizo shit put to pen and paper, but cartoon fans treat it as a gift to the industry.

>>717301890 (OP)
He's right.

The best games of all time explain their entire plot on the manual or back cover, no need for anything more than that.

>>717302746
that would be this fuck

>>717301890 (OP)
I assume he liked Sticker Star

Ren and Stimpy was a fever dream for substance abusers. Why should I care about his opinion on videogames

>>717302548
Ren and Stimpy had video game stuff in it.

>>717303013
Its basically the last survivor of the edgelord alternate choice nicktoons, because reruns aired at times well beyond the bedtime of most schoolchildren. People watched enough catdog to realize they dont like catdog and people who pretend to like catdog are retards, they never even tuned in to ren and stimpy so they cant rationally oppose the people who spitefully claim to like it.

>>717302325
Maybe outside of 4chan. 64niggers here can’t go one thread without seething at TTYD.

>>717301890 (OP)
At least Super Paper Mario was vindicated by history by having it's plot reused.

He's not wrong
I saw all the trannies melting down here about le dk timeline being ruined by bananza and I couldn't believe it
Who gives a fuck about the story in Mario games?

>>717303351
I'll be real, I've never seen RnS. Was it accurate at all or the kind where the guy spasms around with a 5 face button SNES controller while the game has Atari graphics? Did he have a blog or something where he said Contra 2 was sweet or something?

>>717303013
Your favorite cartoons wouldn’t exist without it. SpongeBob for one.

>>717301890 (OP)
This guy writes like giant fag

>>717303013
Gave storyboard artists creative freedom from the corporate, commercialized slop that was 80s toy cartoons. Cartoon Network as a channel owns its existence to Ren and Stimpy.

>>717303863
bullshit
Ren & stimpy is not that important

>>717301890 (OP)
I loved Ren and Stimpy, but I'm not clear why I should care about the guy's opinion on video games when he doesn't have any credentials in that realm.

>>717301890 (OP)
>How do they trick anyone into caring?
I can't stand people who think like this.

>>717301890 (OP)
While I can agree that the story in video games is a really low priority, I think his reasoning doesn't make sense. He didn't bring up how story can devale the video games unique qualities as a medium or how it can get in the way of the part you bought it for.

Cans with Labels negates any weight his opinions could have.

>>717301890 (OP)
I don't care about SPM but why should I care about the opinion of some fag that made a dogshit "dude gross lmao" TV show?

>>717303863
My favorite cartoon's pilot preceded this fag's fart jokes

>>717301890 (OP)
cool, his original vision for Ren and Stimpy was actually dumpster-fire tier and it's only through his tardwranglers that the actually good show that exists came into being
and then he got to make it(sorta) the way he wanted and it was fucking awful in comparison, leagues worse
assuming that's actually by John K anyways lol

>>717303456
It's wild how hard Toby copied Super Paper Mario when you think about it.
>Asgore-Count Bleck
>Toriel-Tippi
>Muffet-Mimi
>Flowey-Dimentio
>Alphys-Francis
I mean what are the odds of two games having yellow annoying fat nerd lizards?

>>717304023
You are a zoomer.

>>717304410
Francis was green.

>>717304410
wasn't muffet a kickstarter character though

>>717304559
My bad, must have been my memory playing tricks on me. Point still stands, regardless of the color of the faggot nerd lizard.

>>717304782
But Francis wanted to fuck Peach. He was straight.

>>717304452
No one cares about John K except hyperfaggot indie animators on youtube

opinions are like buttholes. i only care about girls buttholes.

>>717301890 (OP)
The guy sounds pretentious. Super's not my favorite Paper Mario game, but I enjoyed the story and everything it went for regarding multiple plot points throughout the game. It's a perfect example of Nintendo knowing how to make an engaging and fun story for something as simple as Mario if they want to.

>>717303775
>the kind where the guy spasms around with a 5 face button SNES controller while the game has Atari graphics?
This

>>717304023
Nigga even newgrounds wouldn't be a thing without the raunchy animation of ren and stimpy to take inspiration from

>>717301890 (OP)
two different game genres have different amounts of story WOW

>>717305410
>No dude, John K literally invented cartoons!

>>717305002
Modern Spongebob is run by Spumco people.

>>717303140
This guy is such a tremendous hack. Between Samurai Jack Season 5, Primal Season 2, Unicorn Warriors Eternal and now Fixed, I've lost all respect I had for him. Someone else was clearly reigning in his impulses back in the day with the original Samurai Jack and Clone Wars.

>>717304023
>>717305509
John K is washed up now but him and Ren & Stimpy were huge and influential back when it premiered and if you weren't a zoomer you would know.

>>717301890 (OP)
Haven't played Super, but TTYD has one of the best stories in gaming.

>>717304849
Alphys was originally a guy according to Toby. So again, point still stands.

*proletarian

Proletariat describes the whole class, one individual member of the proletariat is a "proletarian."

>>717305723
>marry
>has kids
>"suddenly" starts turning into a hack
many such cases.

>>717301890 (OP)
Does He even play games?

TTYD has better story than SPM

>>717307778
Foids drain a man's very essence.

>>717308427
not with the remake

>>717301890 (OP)
A lot of needless race designation in that post.

>>717301890 (OP)
who?

>>717301890 (OP)
Imagine being such a gay boomer that you lament the 3rd game in a Mario RPG series and like the 6th Mario RPG game has a story, as if this is a brand new revelation

>>717301890 (OP)
>Count Bleck loses his girlfriend
>Overreacts like a dipshit by destroying the whole goddamn world for some reason
Why do people say this game has a good story?

>>717302920
Can I please get a picture of this boo without the punch? I like his face.

I just want SPM with classic gameplay
where are the fangames/mods doing that

>>717301890 (OP)
No, and you can see exactly where he got it wrong too. Starting with the assumption that lacking story was a "good part" of Mario 1.

>>717303140
Ironically he did Star Wars better than what Lucas could do.

>>717310710
One is being made.

>>717310863
where? I've checked fan projects for PM and haven't seen this one yet

>>717310897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWgxyadE_wc

>not caring about story in a video game

>>717310970
interesting but the rest of the game is still the same, I wanted something that would redo the entire game to be like 64/TTYD including the overworld
at least someone is fixing sticker star

I wish Super got remade as a normal PM where you swap between the four characters in battle. I also want a legit Paper Mario sidescroller.

>>717310710
>white outlines
>sticker star goombas

What's his beef with "attractive White princess"? Kinda weird

>>717310970
it's made by a troon btw

It's fake you niggers

>>717305509
You have to understand that 80s animations were low quality trash. REN and stumpy brought back some of the artistry from early animation like tom and Jerry.

>>717303013
It sucks but it represented a no holds barred creative freedom fuck what anyone else thinks mindset and it inspired a great amount of other creatives that went on to surpass it. So ren and stimpy is shitty but it's important and valuable and should be respected t

>>717305723
I think that's a bit too harsh. He definitely is talented is some ways, he just can't write an ending to save his life.

>>717311262
Oh well. Thread over I guess. See you guys in the next one.

>>717302746
As far as I know, for all his flaws, George Lucas wasn’t a pedophile

>>717311532
Of course he wasn’t a pedo, look at all those dead younglings.

Dimentio was too based for that game

>>717302023
A vile piece of shit that not even the most diehard 90s kid can defend when it's actually wheeled out and playing.

>>717301890 (OP)
he's not even making an argument, idk what the deal is with old people criticizing things while saying nothing of substance.

John K hates everything that isn't golden age cartoons (and underage girls).

>>717312542
sounds incredibly based

>>717305410
Ralph Bakshi was doing John K in the 70's.

>>717305183
He sees himself as a genius and believes all cartoons should emulate Tex Avery. In his eyes, every cartoon made after the Golden Age besides his and Bakshi's are trash

>>717311463
but /co/ threads are some of the best threads on /v/...

>>717301890 (OP)
John K is really not talented enough to have the kinds of opinions that he has, much less about video games. Even if he really held this opinion about Super Mario Brothers, which he most certainly does not, he is either too ignorant to realize the Paper Mario series is entirely different or too stupid to appreciate that very cogent fact. John K may be a talented animator, but his storytelling prowess leaves a LOT to be desired. Almost nothing in either incarnation of Ren and Stimpy was particularly compelling (And not for nothing, but both Crayon Shin Chan and Doraemon have actually compelling characters) and the development hell that is "Cans Without Labels" doesn't seem to be much different. John K is just a has-been who has more energy for his vitriolic blogs than actually finishing what his fans have paid him money for.

I mean who even is this guy? How does he even trick anyone into caring? I can't imagine any person does. I guess this is for sophisticated animators only.

John Kricfalusi is a pedophile.

>>717301890 (OP)
i dunno i'm never gonna play a paper mario game, they've looked soulless since they were first advertised
i was there btw

>>717301890 (OP)
i don't care who this faggot is, but he's right if he's saying SPM is shit.

He really said proletariat

>>717301890 (OP)
Because I totally watch shit like Ren and Stimpy for the story

>>717301890 (OP)
he's actually retarded for thinking super mario bros is one of the best videogames ever made
there's a difference between influential and actually good

>>717312410
there's a big difference between the original and the adult swim version

>>717302023
Wojaks but as a tv show

>>717301890 (OP)
Wtf? A successful dickfalusi schizo thread on /v/ of all places??

>>717311262
Yeah, I was wondering "since when does John K give a shit about videogames" of course it's fake.

>>717302583
There has never been a good love story in vidya.

>>717303949
>Gave storyboard artists creative freedom from the corporate, commercialized slop that was 80s toy cartoons.
Yet you endlessly denigrate Steven Universe for the exact same shit. Fucking hypocrites.

>>717310835
Hating on the prequels for no reason isn't cool anymore.

>>717302023
ligma balls

>>717301890 (OP)
>watcvhed the R&S MTV reboot
>Expected the most soulless, vapid, safe and sanitized version of the show
>Somehow it was even fucking worse
I now completely understand why Paramount didn't release it, what a colossal failure of a reboot and that's saying something when even the execs abort it.

>>717316234
You wish the average wojakfag drew that well.

>>717303386
Here, let me provide an example of what you actually mean:
>64 BAD SUPER BAD STICKER STAR BAD COLOR SPLASH BAD ORIGAMI KING BAD
>I dunno, I still think 64 was charming and fun
>FUCKING 64FAGS SHITTING UP MY THREAD NOOOOO AHHHHHHH

>>717304039
>he doesn't have any credentials in that realm.
Neither does /v/

>>717301890 (OP)
Why do I care about what some faggy animator thinks?
The answer, of course, is that I don't.

>>717304559
God I fucking hated the visuals in that game

>>717301890 (OP)
Paper Mario is the ONLY bing bing wahoo slop I can tolerate. Well PM and BoTW and ToTK anyway

>>717316972
I liked it because it was novel and had computer references.

>>717311235
All the best hacks are.

>>717311056
>>717311164
Cool, then make it.

>>717301890 (OP)
What a pleb.
SPM was peak deviantARTkino.

>>717316868
The only credentials /v/ has are in transgenderism, homosexualality, retardation, and African culture.

>>717311848
It's not really that bold. Most people were held as kids, like one of the first things a parent does is hold their kid.

>>717317032
What about normal flesh Mario is something you have to endure?

>>717317164
And goddamn PROUD OF IT

>>717301890 (OP)
Why the fuck would I care for what that faggot thinks?
His cartoon sucked ass and was only popular because of shock crude "comedy" in a more prudish society.

>>717316593
You can also thank Genndy for prequel revisionism too.